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- BaudiIROCZ, on 05/27/2008, -5/+31The War on Drugs has been the least successful government program ever. Over $500 billion spent and what do we have to show for it? Overfilled jails with non-violent criminals, a higher abundance of drugs, and a reason for gangs to still exist. LEGALIZE NOW!!
- rpi22, on 05/27/2008, -3/+21They're living the high life, and turning over a new leaf... Every cliche' these old fogies can bogart is rollin' up in this joint.
- ChildeRoland420, on 05/27/2008, -1/+13You're exactly right. Just because alcohol is legal doesn't mean that there is an epidemic of people skipping out on work and their lives to drink.
- wsuvtx, on 05/27/2008, -1/+13Plus it gets you baked
- DestroyFascism, on 05/27/2008, -3/+14This plant is the best fertilizer any farmer could want! It needs little soil moisture though it will tolerate soggy soils and dry, nutrient deficient soils. It leaves a Nitrogen rich root system and is easily the best fodder one could want (Cats, Cows, Horses and Sheep love it) When ploughed into the soil the roots rhizomes remain producing soluble Nitrogen for up to a year. Its abundant seeds produce vitamin E and D rich oils that are perfect in cosmetics and cooking. The plant is high in protein and Vitamin E for stock and its fibers make the best work wear and so on. It also has few pests and most insects will not tolerate its leaves.
- Hoprot, on 05/27/2008, -1/+11Yes, and I suspect that cannabis would be a significantly smaller burden on society than alcohol, especially if legalisation was done properly, with sound education and a consistent correlation of law to reality...
- Hoprot, on 05/27/2008, -2/+12You have little faith in people's self-control. The problem with this argument is that people who want to sit around all day smoking bud already do. Sure, we might get more people with legalisation initially, but once it's normal, it loses its 'forbidden fruit' attraction, which is an especially potent attraction for youth, when it is most harmful and most likely to lead to problematic levels of use. Holland has much lower rates of teenage cannabis use, because it just isn't that big of a deal.
If you treat people like they're irresponsible, they'll act irresponsibly. - shauncorleone, on 05/27/2008, -1/+10I'd say "legalize it and tax the hell out of it like tobacco and alcohol", except we STILL wouldn't see any decrease in income taxes. Of course, you'd also need a quick and easy test for DUI like the breathalyzer, as most blood/urine test results take a while to develop.
"I think we should legalize marijuana in this country. ... just so potheads wouldn't have anything to talk about." -- Daniel Tosh - sodade, on 05/27/2008, -4/+12I have yet to hear a single valid reason why Cannabis should still be against the law. If you answer with stereotypes you FAIL.
- FLMarijuana, on 05/27/2008, -3/+11Californians! Become informed and pressure your legislators to pass these bills.
AB 2743
A bill authored by Assembly Member Lori Saldaña (D-San Diego) that directs state and local law enforcement agencies to not cooperate with the DEA or other federal law enforcement agencies in their attacks on sick and dying medical marijuana patients and their caregivers.
AB 2279
A bill co-authored by Assembly Members Mark Leno (D-San Francisco), Patty Berg (D-Eureka), Loni Hancock (D-Berkeley), and Lori Saldaña (D-San Diego), and sponsored by Americans for Safe Access, prohibiting employers from discriminating against employees and applicants for employment based solely on their use of medical marijuana
SJR 20
A resolution authored by Sen. Carole Migden (D-San Francisco) that calls for an end to the DEA raids in California. The resolution also denounces the federal government's recent tactic of threatening to seize the property of landlords who rent to medical marijuana facilities. Further, SJR 20 urges Congress and the president to enact federal legislation that would protect medical marijuana patients and providers from arrest and prosecution
SB 1098
A bill authored by Sen. Carole Migden (D-San Francisco) that provides tax-amnesty to medical marijuana-dispensing collectives for the period prior to October 2005, when the state was not accepting sales tax payments, making it impossible for dispensaries to pay
http://www.mpp.org/ - chewbie, on 05/27/2008, -0/+8we do but this has been commented so many times that it needs to die already
- BaudiIROCZ, on 05/27/2008, -1/+9Decriminalization is the first step. But if they want to positively affect America they need to eventually legalize and tax it. That way you have the choice to buy it and pay a tax or grow it in your home without fear of prosecution. Marijuana is cheap enough to grow that they could put a 5-7 dollar tax on it and still sell grams for $10 and make profit. Everyone wins.
- Andrwmorph, on 05/27/2008, -1/+7It would be nice to not have to visit shady ass places every time I need to restock
- isaactwito, on 05/27/2008, -0/+5One of the biggest problems we must overcome before we can make progress with marijuana is the absurdly inaccurate education that is forced on all students in this country. Fear-mongering propaganda should NEVER be a legitimate justification for something.
- Andrwmorph, on 05/27/2008, -0/+5But the government told me its bad!
- Chronoped, on 05/27/2008, -0/+5you said it, brother
- wsuvtx, on 05/27/2008, -0/+5It is about our government and the puritanical beliefs for the right that keep it illegal. I believe that if you do the opposite of what the right says when it comes to legislating morality that we would be better off.
- Chronoped, on 05/27/2008, -0/+5Many organized religions and cults teach that any form of mind altering drug use is wrong, because if you've ever noticed, drug users have a "thing" for questioning authority. It really boils my blood that christian youth groups and the likes are brainwashing kids into thinking that all drugs are evil. The government's doing the same thing for the same reasons. Self-preservation.
- bbqsalad, on 05/27/2008, -0/+4PLEASE legalize it!
- InferiorWang, on 05/27/2008, -0/+4Fly through Japan. I hear the authorities are just giving it away.
- Jassman, on 05/27/2008, -0/+4Tell me, JohnSteel...
Are you not smoking crack because crack is illegal?
OR
Are you not smoking crack because you wouldn't want to ***** up your life on crack?
Edit: I always ***** click the wrong reply button. Maybe I should lay off the crack. - TheJimid, on 05/27/2008, -0/+3The War on terror hasn't and won't give us a quarter of the world's prison population.
- cam0man, on 05/27/2008, -1/+4You just described all the things that the government loves. $500 billion spent and who's pockets did it go into? Federal employees, police departments, the DEA, the prison sector, etc etc. The war on drugs is called 'job security' for any LEO and beefs up the budget for police departments and schools nationwide.
Everyone bitches and moans that the money is being wasted, yes it's being wasted if you're a regular citizen, if you're one of the millions benefiting from it you woudln't be complaining. Since the ones who benefit from it are in bed with those who create the laws, they're all happy.
Immediately stop thinking that the governemnt is going 'wake up' to the waste of money, they're aware of what they're spending and it's not an issue. - ashfish, on 05/27/2008, -0/+3The fear I have of not regulating marijuana should it ever be decriminalized or legalized is that clinics will pop up that aren't selling quality weed and that their patients will suffer for it. And taxation would help bring down our national debt (in theory), I'm all for that.
- Nolimit, on 05/27/2008, -0/+3As much as we want it legalized, the big pharmaceutical companies are the ones standing in our way. They have more money, and they have a lot to lose if cannabis is legalized.
- isaactwito, on 05/27/2008, -0/+3While not in theory the safest practice, driving high is a ***** walk in the park, and I don't say that lightly. Also a marijuana test would be difficult to implement as it stays in your system much longer then alcohol does (though you will not be high this entire time), so the burden of proof is pretty high (no, that's not meant as a pun).
- ashfish, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2The problem that I see is more in reference to what Baudil was talking about, chemically altering weed and then giving it back to patients that are taking hard core medicines already. Doesn't seem like a great idea. My previous post was poorly worded.
- Mpwns, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2wait i thought weed made you lazy? this story and video only proves stoners will step up to plate and fill the holes.
- maldovix, on 05/27/2008, -1/+3Considering california's economy is 1.7 TRILLION (that's 1,700 billions) and independently has the 7th largest GDP in the world, I would be impressed if even 14 billion was regarded as our largest industry
- imacommi, on 05/27/2008, -1/+3The war on terror will be equally as ineffective and more expensive in the long run. I'd say they are about a tie for least sucessful ever.
- BaudiIROCZ, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2I don't care what the quality of the weed they sell is. It really only matters that they don't tamper with it like cigarette companies have done by adding chemicals. Even bad weed won't hurt someone but chemically altered weed wouldn't be good.
- freezeout, on 05/27/2008, -3/+5in the end its all about the bottom line. war on drugs is draining money with nothing to show for it while Cannabis can generate billions in revenue.
there are so many states with massive negative balance sheets that eventually they will have no choice but to legalize and tax Cannabis. - Jassman, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2Why is that a problem? The clinics that aren't selling "quality weed" should be buried six feet under by the invisible hand of the free market. Either that, or they will appeal to a different demographic by selling low quality, low priced weed.
- Loco801, on 05/27/2008, -1/+3Legalize that *****...NOW
- Jassman, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2I don't know... the sketchy movie-like drug deals can be kind of fun...
But yeah, going to 7-11 to get my supply might be a bit more convenient. - imacommi, on 05/27/2008, -1/+3That doesn't make it any more sucessful than the war on drugs. I know the study you are referencing though and I can't help but agree that the war on drugs needs to end.
- drqshadow, on 05/27/2008, -3/+4Still waiting on my bud...
- Markpdotcom, on 05/27/2008, -3/+4Wow... you don't watch Southpark?
- Opiate, on 05/27/2008, -2/+3Decrim, not regulate..
- bdawg123, on 05/27/2008, -3/+4StingingNettle is stupid... mmmmkay.
- corryface, on 05/27/2008, -6/+7if those figures are true then there is a serious case for legalisation. the government will most likely never win the war on drugs so they might aswell get with the programme.
- curseoflou, on 05/27/2008, -3/+4DUGG for title being better than cnbc attempt.
- inactive, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1 Where does the 2 billion generated legally end up? Does it all to government or is there private contractors involved?
- boardstrapd, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1Oh, nshex1, ignorance is bliss! I know MANY stoners who are productive members of society. I bet you had no idea there are many different strains of cannabis available, some that give you a head high (more creativity, decreases anxiety), and some that give you a body high. Most likely if you're getting it off of the street, you have no choice in the kind of cannabis you get.
As a person who's used anti-depressants, I can say that there really isn't much difference between those legal medications and what cannabis can do for you. And alcohol is legal... is 'everyone' walking around as a slobbering drunk?
If cannabis becomes legal, absolutely NOTHING is going to change... except that there'll be less people in our overcrowded jails, and hopefully a change in domestic abuse because who ever heard of a stoner beating up on anyone? And then there's the multiple, practical uses of hemp as a material. And I didn't even bring up the healing effects of cannabis on cancer patients, along with many other ailments.
There is absolutely no logic in cannabis being outlawed while prescription drugs like prozac and vicodin, as well as alcohol, are all legal. It's just common sense, folks.. - fr3ddie, on 05/27/2008, -9/+10***** LAW SUCKS!
- BillE3, on 06/07/2008, -0/+0Urine test for THC has instant results, just like the other tests for drugs, nicotine and alcohol.
- boardstrapd, on 05/27/2008, -0/+0Legal dispensaries all pay federal, state, and local taxes/permits/fees, just like all other businesses. I'm not sure if the 2 billion also includes salaries of dispensary workers as well, who pay income taxes as individuals. Sure the dispensary owners also make their profit, but most places run as non-profit co-ops. Those who don't and buy extravagant cars & houses are usually the ones targeted by the feds.
- boardstrapd, on 05/27/2008, -0/+0Agreed. I mean, what are some of the stoners favorite past times? Playing video games and playing music... which require hand-eye coordination. Try getting a drunk to play a game, and it ain't pretty. That being said, please just know your own limits and don't take any chances on the road when you're not in the right state of mind.
- dezmo, on 05/27/2008, -5/+2you say it like it's a bad thing. work sucks! I'd rather sit in the park.
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