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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Damn, University of Phoenix online didn't make the cut again.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Would it be too difficult to provide a simple list? I hear graphs are used often in business in order to organize information. Businessweek should go back to business school.
edit: here it is - http://www.businessweek.com/pdfs/2006/0643_bschools.pdf - bram, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Knock it if you want, but he is the President of the United States.
- aeproberts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What brands did he manage? Your company must be pretty amazing to have both the #2, #4 brand in the world.
I am sure he is a crappy manager, but lets not exaggerate here. - noreturn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6As well as outside. Maybe you should read the article?
- caffiend, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5hahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha *breath* hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
- FearNLoathing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Find a company that will pay for you to get your MBA.
- DrDigg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I love it, your name is grammarpolice and you make up the word ALLOT.
- daving31, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hmm...history is one of the best majors? I received my economics degree from the University of Michigan and don't really remember too much memorization of anything. Yes you memorized formulas, but that was just to help you when doing homework and actually applying what you learned. History majors may be able to communicate through Microsoft Word at a high level, but that doesn't translate over to excellent communication skills when in a meeting with a client or in front of your leads or your interviewer. My current role is a Functional Analyst, but it has nothing to do with writing long papers. It's about effective communication. I think you need to do a lot more research into what type of analyst you really want to be. "Analyst" is a very broad term.
As a former roommate of a history major, his only option was graduate school to move to a career. Your best bet may be consulting as they usually take from all majors. That's one of the few fields that you may be able to somehow craft your resume to somehow say how being a history major gave you real world analytic ability in the business world.
I don't know many marketing majors that went after "analyst" jobs, but for some reason marketing + effective communication would seem to go hand in hand. - aeproberts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I actually agree with you. The MBA is a vital recruiting tool for most business organizations. The people who seek that degree are generally more qualified then the average employee that a company would be able to hire. You might not agree, but if you look at it, they are motivated (or they wouldn't be getting the degree in the first place) and well educated. They have been exposed to many different school of thoughts and are normally schooled in many tools that are not used for undergraduate degrees.
To say that every MBA is a good hire is obviously stupid. There are good and bad people in every walk of life. The most important thing is work experience. Many schools require 2-5 years of work experience before applying and force the students to get internships during their graduate years. Hiring someone solely because they are an MBA is stupid, hiring someone who has an MBA and whose skills match what you are looking for makes total sense. - aeproberts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ Prime Number.
Actually she does have an MBA from University of Maryland. - HighPressure, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2G W Bush received an MBA from Harvard Business School in 1975
- noreturn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Digg me down for being right.
http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/06/full_time_tables/mba_intl.htm - etnu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2MBAs are essential to the business world because you learn nothing as an undergraduate in business.
Honestly, I don't think business undergrads (except maybe economics, finance, and accounting) should even exist. You should be required to get a bachelor's in a "real" program, work a few years, and then get an MBA.
Most of the best managers that I've ever worked with or known have undergraduates in things like EE, CS, chemistry, or some other technical discipline, and have actually worked in the industry. This gives them the ability to actually make informed decisions and understand the process.
The worst that I know are the people who got an undergraduate in marketing, or management (there are many variations of "management" degrees, all of them are *****). They come into an organization that actually does something (like, say, a software company), and think that they know how to run it. If the company is lucky, they don't do much damage and are quietly shut up before they can harm things. If they're not, they can sink the whole ship.
MBAs, as a whole, should be a relatively small portion of any organization's work force. You do not need a PM for every engineer (nor do you need an engineering manager for every engineer...). You do not need a design manager for every designer. You do not need 7 levels of management when you only have 5,000 employees, period. At some point, you need to have people who actually do work. - DrDigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Often misspelled as alot, it is two words "a lot". I was once told by an English teacher that it was based on the term lot in reference to land/property. If you look for it you will see it misspelled everywhere...the more you know...
- grammarpolice, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@DrDigg. I know its sad, but to tell you the truth I have no clue if its two words or one.
@daving31. Thanks for the info, I can see your point. For now I will be researching what kind of analyst I would like to be. - PrimeNumber, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Exactly, total unfounded arrogance in their abilities personifies an MBA, along with oversimplifying complex details and needlessly obfuscation of issues that aren't.
Don't even get me started about their cluelessness with technology and IT.
It always seems like the successful companies in history were founded with people that had *deep* knowledge and experience of the companies business and customers, not an MBA.
Call me crazy, but am I the only one that considers an MBA the most over-rated degree ever, or have I just seen too many instances of them totally screwing up tech companies?
Examples of this are HP, Microsoft, and Compaq. Technically HP shouldn't count -- Carly has a history degree, but it was added only because she acted like an MBA. - autodata, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You won't be able to get into a good MBA program without first having a good, relevant job for a few years and, as many people I know put it, getting an MBA from a school other than one of the ultra-elites (ie, the top 6 or so) is no better than a second bachelors. While that's not necessarily true across the board, it's true when looking at whether you will have a guaranteed return on the massive investment. For instance, my wife was accepted to both Kellogg and Chicago this year (chose Kellogg), but she would't even have bothered applying to schools that we're the top 6 or so since the job options and opportunities are limited.
- gilliz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0umm why is there a column for minority %, what difference does that make in being a good business school, if ur school happens to be in a predominantly white community it should be discarded? ohh right its politically correct to be prejudice but only against white people
- daving31, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1hmm...i don't know. if i was a hiring person, i'd want to see some significant real world experience to back up your history degree.
real world experience > your major in college.
but withoutt any real world experience, it'd be hard to justify hiring someone who just focused on their history degree. - redwings, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1what about the Canadian business schools we have 3 of the best business schools in the world, Uni6versity of Western Ontario(Ivey), Queens , York schulich
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2People still waste their money going to graduate school? You can learn everything online with google for free...
- cameronfactor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Finally some props for the Maroon. You'd think that all those Nobel prizes in econ would wear off on the business school eventually.
- debdiego, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What company?
- snachodog, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Big disappointment here at Kellogg about our MBA moving to #3.
We're hoping when they re-rank the EMBAs, we'll be back on top again. - debdiego, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0The best thing to do is a little research on the type of work or job you want. Once you find a few of those options than you can see the best avenue to get there based upon the requirements, history of successful people in the job, or just ask the people who are doing what you want to do. People are surprisingly responsive to email. I speak on this as an someone who has a couple of successful careers, my juris doctorate, a university professor, and career counselor. Forget the advice unless it is being given by someone who is doing what you want to do. That is the only real advice you need.
- riquock, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0In technology industry, most companies prefer certification instead of Master Degree.. Unless you want to study Business, then get sponsorship from companies
- grammarpolice, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I have a question. So I want to be a tech analyst in the future. I will graduate from Loyola University Chicago with a History major, but I know ALLOT about technology. I live technology, I can spend all day working with network,hardware, and software technologies. Now can I get a decent position with a B.A in history and work myself up? Or should I go into an MBA program and see whats given to me. I guess I want to know if that is the right way to become a tech analyst.
I actually graduate in 2 months, can anyone recomend my next move? I just thought about being a tech analyst like 4 hours ago. Thanks. - betona, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I once was under an SVP with a Wharton MBA (2nd in his class or something that he'd brag about) and the words used to describe him were often "pompous" and "aloof". He personally moved in and killed a number of worthy promotions for great people under him who truly deserved those promotions specifically because they didn't have Ivy league schooling, or didn't have an MBA. The 4 major product decisions he made for our company all failed miserably, costing over a billion dollars. Yeah, I used the b-word. He was put in charge of a brand that was #2 in the world at the time and now is completely unknown and will be shut down in a matter of months. Then they put him in another brand that was #4 in the world and it's a goner now too--all due to changes he made that destroyed their presence in the market and angered the customers. He's still at that company, now pretty high up on what was once the #1 brand in the world in its category, and it too is falling rapidly, now in the #3 spot and a popular whipping boy on digg.
So, yeah, those tops schools are guaranteed to produce winners. - grammarpolice, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1History I believe is one of the best majors a person can come out of college with. Unlike other majors where memorization is key, history prepares you for the real world. As a history major you have to find all the facts through heavy research, then be able to read it and comprehend it all. Then once you comprehend and analyze each persons take on a subject they have to analyze how it fits with the rest of the facts. Finally after analyzing different factors you have to construct a view and support it. You are either wrong or right. History is a discipline of research and analyzing. If I was a person who hired I would pick a history major over a marketing major for a analyst job. + history majors have excellent communication skills.
I agree that real world experience is crucial. But as a student who wants to become an analyst what kind of job should one look for to go in the right path? Any help? - ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2..in the USA.
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