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- weiwuwei, on 12/03/2007, -4/+86My favorite quotes: "All warfare is based on deception." (1.18) and "There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare." (2.6)
- noremorse1, on 12/03/2007, -13/+93Doesn't everyone know about this book? Wait... whats that you say? Most Americans don't read outside of Scholastic Book Club or Oprah's Book Club? Ohh... ok.
- Groovemaster, on 12/03/2007, -10/+72The neocons considered studying Sun Tzu's "Art of War" until they realized it was focussed primarily towards winning wars.
They finally settled on Foo Yung's "How to ***** Up Your Country and Other Countries and Get Rich in the Process". - jkbowman, on 12/03/2007, -0/+36Got a friend going through a bad divorce? - Give them this book..
- graviplana, on 12/03/2007, -6/+296. There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.
- dserfaty, on 12/03/2007, -0/+23II - 17 ... The captured soldiers should be kindly treated and kept.
II - 18. This is called, using the conquered foe to augment one's own strength. - KamikazeeDriver, on 12/03/2007, -2/+23I've had this book for a long while now, and I'm American.
It's amusing how every article can somehow be used as a reason to slander Americans.
You think you've been affected by Bush? Try living here idiot! - newl, on 12/03/2007, -0/+19The best way to avoid war is to not enter into it. ;)
- Justice101, on 12/03/2007, -3/+20What about a government......*cough 1984.
Food for Thought : ) - Comatose51, on 12/03/2007, -0/+17WTF? Lao Tzu was not Sun Tzu's teacher. Stop making ***** up.
- Comatose51, on 12/03/2007, -0/+17They should remember his others quote:
"Misfortune can revert back to fortune, dishonor can revert back to honor, but the dead cannot revert back to life. War is an instrument of ill omen." or also his other quote:
"Victory without war is the pinnacle of excellence." - michaelb1, on 12/03/2007, -1/+17There is no instance of a COUNTRY having benefited from prolonged warfare." (2.6)
- iamsamsamiam, on 12/03/2007, -3/+19American war effort = Epic Failure
"Know your enemy" is the primary point before anything and we all know they dropped the ball on that, just like in Nam. And the worst thing was, we didn't even learn from Nam about learning about your enemy. The fact that they thought that the entirety of South East Asia was going to fall to communism was a total misunderstanding of the Vietnamese people. Sure, they were fighting the VCs in the jungle, but the Americans didn't even know the allegiances of the Vietnamese people. Just like how in this war the administration didn't even know about the different sects of the Muslim religion in the region
III. Attack by Stratagem
6. Therefore the skillful leader subdues the enemy's troops without any fighting; he captures their cities without laying siege to them; he overthrows their kingdom without lengthy operations in the field. - albinorhino101, on 12/03/2007, -0/+15One of my favorite books, it's so great because it's not about war but conflict and can be adapted to any conflict that can occur
- newstart, on 12/03/2007, -1/+15umm... the poster is pointing to mit.edu
- Minishark, on 12/03/2007, -5/+17I have a PhD in being smarter than you. Digg me up!
- ray42, on 12/03/2007, -0/+12A wind that rises in the daytime lasts long, but a night breeze soon falls.
...dude, that's deep. - pinchecabron, on 12/03/2007, -1/+13A decent book for aspiring upwardly mobile douche-bags.
/Off to read 'The Prince' - kewlito, on 12/03/2007, -0/+10Yeah, we all know that Shang Tsung was his master.
- rush378, on 12/03/2007, -1/+1126. Now the general who wins a battle makes many calculations in his temple ere the battle is fought. The general who loses a battle makes but few calculations beforehand. Thus do many calculations lead to victory, and few calculations to defeat: how much more no calculation at all! It is by attention to this point that I can foresee who is likely to win or lose.
- inactive, on 12/03/2007, -1/+11Or listen to it from Librivox.org (http://librivox.org/the-art-of-war-by-sun-tzu/)
- damnyooneek, on 12/03/2007, -0/+8I read the book a couple months ago and when i read that line the first thing that popped into my head was "i wish Bush read this book"
- dudefather, on 12/03/2007, -0/+8from that point on when a bunch of animals are in one place together its called a 'Zoo'
unless its a farm - ScotchInBox, on 12/03/2007, -0/+6Thank you Captain Obvious ;)
- popothebright, on 12/03/2007, -0/+6"The Art of War" rules. There's much wisdom there.
But we shouldn't forget the older Chinese classic: "The Book of Changes". Sun Tzu himself consulted the I Ching before battle.
http://www.ifate.com/iching_index.html - CaptainGirf, on 12/03/2007, -2/+8Machiavelli Crew represent!
- Emused, on 12/03/2007, -0/+5After reading this article I can't wait to go into work tomorrow and start kicking some Starbucks asses around.
- ChaosMotor, on 12/03/2007, -2/+7The country is not the government, the government is not the country. While no country may have benefited, the government of that country may have benefited.
- unloud, on 12/03/2007, -0/+5PDF of the book if anyone wants it for printing purposes:
Commentary: http://www.puppetpress.com/classics/ArtofWarbySunT ...
or
No Commentary: http://www.artofwarsuntzu.com/Art%20of%20War%20PDF ... - bonkeykong, on 12/03/2007, -0/+4I like the 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene.
- thewindfish, on 12/03/2007, -2/+6I was thinking the same thing. Depending on who is in control the government, it may be possible for some to benefit greatly from prolonged warfare...
- Ulisses, on 12/03/2007, -1/+5Racist alert!
And a RP support, who wouldda thunkit??! - tobytobsen, on 12/03/2007, -0/+4In case the site goes down, mirror: http://diggpictures.blogspot.com/2007/12/art-of-wa ...
- anarchytv, on 12/03/2007, -1/+5On a related tangent... The 48 Laws of Power... http://youtube.com/watch?v=uQdi8Zl94uM Learn how the criminals of this world operate... just don't become one, the world is a sad enough place as it is... and my faith in humanity... gone.
- inactive, on 12/03/2007, -1/+4Knowing what to state, obviously, is genius. Sun Tzu deserves all his credit, as does Clausewitz.
- jthomp3120, on 12/03/2007, -2/+5you are an American hero. thank you.
- ronaldmonster, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3noob
- jthomp3120, on 12/03/2007, -2/+5where are your submissions of African classics?
- ThetaDot, on 12/03/2007, -5/+8I'm an American and I've read the Art of War.
And also, you're kinda a dick. - JFallon126, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3Sun Tzu...not bad. You really want to win? Read Machiavelli's The Prince...now that's a man who wanted to get ahead. He's also probably one of the smartest men...ever.
- inactive, on 12/03/2007, -2/+5They're all derived from the philosophy of Wang Chung. Everybody have fun tonight.
- iamsamsamiam, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3Considering the Euro-centric, Judaeo-Christian society, even hearing of the Eastern philosophies is rare. You complain that there's no African classics, I don't even know of any due to my conditioning in society. I know plenty of Eastern philosophy and enough of the West to get by, but show me African texts that focuses on socio-political issues and share them with the Diggnation.
- c0ldfusi0n, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3I'll take your soul now.
- sean9812, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2Lao Tzu is credited with founding daoism
- milliamp, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2So, did you just like the books message, or did you actually lean anything from it?
(there is a copy on my desk but I am so busy I have not read it yet) - Syric, on 12/03/2007, -1/+3Tell me how you gleaned that from his post.
- Icebath, on 12/03/2007, -0/+23. Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain.
- Chairboy, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2They both have their place. Sun Tzu teaches you how to win. The Prince teaches you how to STAY the winner afterwards.
- 15thPD, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2Kevin Rose doesn't care about black people!
- roodammy44, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2I would like to as well, but what's the point whining about it when you have no examples.
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