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- faithhealer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+135Maybe if they weren't so distracted searching for a ridiculously long list of harmless things, they would have time to look for bombs!
- OneHine, on 10/11/2007, -2/+71Once again we see that instead of sacrificing privacy for security, we've been sacrificing privacy for the illusion of security.
- dawhim, on 10/11/2007, -4/+56TSA = Thousands Stand Around
- lordtyros, on 10/11/2007, -2/+54If I'm going to get blown up anyway, at least let me through security quickly.
- Shivalyn, on 10/11/2007, -1/+53"We don't discuss the results because they tend to paint an inaccurate picture of the competency of our work force," she said. "The tests are designed to be incredibly difficult and TSA does anticipate a fair level of failure."
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Because the terrorists won't make it difficult, either. - AAK15, on 10/11/2007, -2/+50yay homeland security!
- snotrokit, on 10/11/2007, -1/+35well at least the terrorists will be really thirsty
- Smight, on 10/11/2007, -1/+33Not if they hide a water bottle inside the bomb!
- kelsosmythe, on 10/11/2007, -5/+32I'm in your bagz, missin' your bombz.
Sorry.
Had to. - jmpeagle, on 10/11/2007, -4/+27they've done the plane thing. Their next target will be something sompletely different. Terrorism isn't supposed to be predictable. Sarin or Chlorine Gas in a movie theater or subway system is much much more likely. Or poisoning the water system after it passes through a water treatment system. We don't need to worry about the incompetent boombs in Glasgow, we should worry about the terrorists who are decent planners.
- atheinostic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22Hillary Clinton and George Bush say we are safer now. So, no, we aren't safer.
6 years ago, we had to worry about Al-Qaeda. Now we have to worry about Al-Qaeda AND the Unitary Executive theory of Presidential Monarchy. And increased global warming. Also, the Iraq war. And the high price of oil, government spying/kidnapping/secret prisons/secret databases, torture, blowback from a belligerent foreign policy, massive budget deficits, a broken health care system, increased poverty, a corrupt political elite, a broken and submissive national press, people who digg articles without reading them, ... - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21it has always been my nightmare that someone would lather my hair to death.
- joebob, on 10/11/2007, -1/+21Now thats just wrong, we need to be confiscating these water bottles. I mean what about the minority populations that could be fatally injured by water such as: technicolor witches, individuals made from salt, umm... snowpeople. The water is also fundamentally harmful to the plane itself. Pouring a few thousand bottles over an untreated framework could cause rust... in a few years... perhaps.
- asforme, on 10/11/2007, -0/+20Take note, when applying for a job at the TSA: "I don't discuss the results of my education and testing because they tend to paint an inaccurate picture my competency."
- alecsputnik, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18i really can't wait for someone to try to blow up a plane with a pants bomb, so then, everyone will have to take off their pants before we get on the plane. that ought to be good!
- DeskFlyer, on 10/11/2007, -4/+22Doesn't everyone know that dihydrogen monoxide is far more dangerous than bombs?
- RichStradler, on 10/11/2007, -0/+16The system is not working... I was travel ling back from a recent Chicago trade show with a coworker he was appalled to find his seven inch long cast aluminum utility knife (complete with spare blades) inside his carry on computer bag after he arrived home in Philly. It must have gotten accidentally packed with his stuff when we packed up the booth. Ironically, past history shows that had he come back to report like an honest citizen would, he probably would have been arrested himself. So now we can't even point out TSA's short comings without being targeted as a potential terrorist ourselves.
- Nickatnite101, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15I used to work for southwest at BWI and i can tell u that if you work for the airport you can get anything that fits in a backback on the airplane. Its kinda scary how easy it is, Employees don't have to walk through security.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+18Well, if they keep confiscating water bottles, chances are that sooner or later one of them will be a bomb! The system works!
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15dude if you count international terrorist attacks then you would need and encyclopedia to record the ***** that has happened under Bush.
- MasterThief117, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14I like "Terrorists Search Americans" better
- queenstarsha, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11hah! technicolor witches. you should start a band just to use that name.
- Bob042, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Well of course, that's because employees have to go through an infallible background search. =/
There's no way that a "terrorist" could not have a record, or be someone who takes a bribe, or etc... - mt066, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11I was under the impression that the "liquid explosives" scenario was highly implausible. Here is one link I found: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/08/on_the_implausi.html
- crichton101, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11isn't that always the way?
Something I still find interesting, during Clinton's presidency, we had 2 terrorist attack attempts, the original WTC bombings, and then a guy was arresting in 99 for trying to smuggle in a bomb to blow up the LAX. During Bush's terms, we've had 5 attempts counting 9/11.
Are we really safer now? - SopMan99, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9I really wonder why they search for ***** AFTER someone has tried using it as a bomb.... for example, the liquid thing... someone tried to blow up a plane using a liquid based explosive. Fine, search the liquids, don't ban them. With our immense technology, isn't there a way to search liquids for explosives? Seriously, TSA workers are overworked and HORRIBLY undertrained and possess little to no "street smarts".
- tmyprod, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10My fiancée and I were flying the other day and as we were going through security and I got my bag searched because I had a water bottle in it, but while waiting at the gate, my fiancée discovered that she had left a small 3-inch long metal pocket-knife in her purse which the crack TSA team failed to catch. See your tax dollars at work.
- applebyte, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Direct link:
http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=603177 - oxdeltaxo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Is this the same Homeland Security that deems public nudity as a threat to national security?
- queenstarsha, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7note to terrorists: bring oil of olay. it distracts the tsa from finding anything genuinely dangerous.
- DivisibleByZero, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9@chrichton101
You seem to have missed a few things that happened during Clinton's terms:
- The Unibomber
- Tim McVeigh
- Eric Rudolph bombing the Atlanta olympics
And incase you think the above don't count because Muslims weren't involved...
- US Embassies in Tanzania and Kenya
- USS Cole
- Thwarted New Years Eve 2000 bombings - OneHine, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Of course they'd arrest your coworker. Look at things from TSA's position. If your coworker makes it clear they failed to do a proper search, it undermines their authority, and undermines the idea that we desperately need these guys to protect us from the magic water bombs. They'd probably rather have an actual terrorist blow up a plane--that way, they can claim that we need more invasiveness, more employees to search out full toothpaste tubes, more blind trust in their organization, and less oversight.
- ruforealz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I was under the impression the "war on terror" was highly ridiculous...
- nickdngr, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6umm...matches maybe? the same way i smoke when i'm past the security checkpoints...
- Warptera, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Just two weeks ago, I accidentally left a full water bottle in my backpack while going through the security checkpoint at LAX. I had just come from customs, and needed to go through the checkpoint again, but for some reason, they just didn't notice it going through the X-ray machine (the guy took forever on it, too).
- theNthDoctor, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Worked in N'awlins.
- pooflinger1, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6They've done the car bomb thing before too. They've also done the suicide bomber *****.... ALOT... Just because 9/11 was the first time they used aircraft as a means, does not mean that it will be the last, or last attempt. The fact is that when something happens at an airport, it tends to involve alot more people than it would on say the subway. I can also recall a recent plan that was thwarted that involved planes again. And there was another that was stopped where they were planning on setting fire to the fuel lines that run under the airport.
Is the security perfect? hell no. Do we need it? hell yes. Does it need to be improved? oh hell yes. Especially if they are missing the damn bombs that they are there to stop in the first place. - dfeifer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5hmm.. or Like the movie Airplane.. while boarding.. Do you have any weapons,.. No,. would you like to buy one?
Who is going to hijack a plane when every person on board has a gun.. - devonkeale, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I was flying back from London a couple months ago, and I bought a bottle of overpriced water in Gatwick AFTER being searched and molested twice by security. I did not open it. I arrived in Houston to change flights, and they searched my carry on and told me they had to throw away my unopened water bottle. I said, "But I bought that after the security checkpoint! It was 2 freakin' pounds!" (British pounds, not weight).
At which point, they flipped out and started yelling at me.
So this article makes perfect sense to me. The TSA has been trained about the dangers of unopened water bottles very thoroughly. Thanks for throwing away my water, *****. - Octanum, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Yeah, I heard it can be lethal if you breathe it in.
- williamdyer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5If everyone told every TSA employee they meet "What worthless bags of ***** you TSA people are." their morale would be destroyed and the government could no longer operate a TSA.
- Subiklim, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Exactly why we need a private company handling our airport security. I wouldn't trust any government to make me a cup of coffee.
- Compuwiz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Earlier this summer they took my water bottle at the security check point, but when I sat in first class, they gave me a steal fork and knife with sharp blades. So they take away my water as it could be used as an accomplice to a liquid bomb, but yet they give people sharp objects right in front of the cockpit. *Confused*
- snotrokit, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4-WHEW!-I feel safer. Thank goodness the TSA is on the job ensuring our safety as we travel the skies.
- THUMPerRTE, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6agreed...dugg
- bemenaker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Liquids on a plane: Every military bomb expert said, NOT POSSIBLE Setting fire to gas pipeling: extremely limited effect, duh all major gas lines like that have shutoffs in line to prevent mass spillage, and fire travel. The florida four: set up by the FBI, were too retarded to know what to do in the first place. The Glasgow airport attack: Military advisors again said, stupid attempt, never would have worked. On and on and on and on.
- brisance, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3How many TSA employees actually know what to look for? It's not as if components of an explosive device have the word "BOMB" labelled all over it.
- JeremyCouch, on 12/22/2008, -1/+4Mark a host on the Free Talk Live radio show (http://freetalklive.com) was making this EXACT point just the other day.
- anonydigg, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4"And there was another that was stopped where they were planning on setting fire to the fuel lines that run under the airport."
I remember reading on digg that that particular plan was impossible to execute because of safety features built into the fuel line coupled with the lack of oxygen in the system. Basically they were really dumb terrorists. The article was also mentioning that most foiled plans involved dumb terrorist and they haven't caught real terrorist for a while now. -
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