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- amabaie, on 11/09/2009, -9/+48This is a silly chart. Tell all the Honda and Toyota workers across the USA that the cars they build are not American.
- brbeaird, on 11/10/2009, -0/+26So many F-150's and Explorers...
- Smokeydabear, on 11/10/2009, -3/+22There hasn't been a 100 percent "American" car since the early 80s. I'm sick of getting the "buy American" ***** shoved down my throat. NOWADAYS DIFFERENT PIECES AND MAJOR PARTS ARE MADE IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES. *****!
- spoulson, on 11/10/2009, -0/+18Wow. Almost every state clunked mostly Explorer 4x4's. Some even managed to trade up to a Silverado.
- RizzosBack, on 11/10/2009, -4/+21What about GM? Precisely how much of their stuff is produced domestically versus their plants all over the Mexican border?
I don't care where my car comes from, so long as it's the best buy for me, but anyone who whines about buying American annoys the ***** out of me.
Who cares where they ship the profits to? Are you actually arguing that the heads of major corporations are on some level playing for the same team you are? - jrm125, on 11/10/2009, -1/+15Yes and no. While many of the cars purchased were designed and owned by a Japanese corporate entity...the vast majority of "Japanese" cars are actually manufactured in the US by Americans.
Ironically, a good number of "American" cars are actually produced outside the States in places like Mexico. - Solkre, on 11/10/2009, -5/+19As I said in a related article.
My Ford Taurus was built in Canada.
My friend's Honda Civic was built in the USA.
Who has the American car? - kopas, on 11/10/2009, -0/+10Speaking as someone who used to work in the automotive industry. Even for US brands, it's not as much as you'd think. Plus a manufacturing facility regardless of where it sources parts helps the local economy. It's easy to spout phrases like, "Buy American, or your job may be next." But as always, the truth is complex and can be interpreted many different ways.
- BotchaMcCoola, on 11/10/2009, -2/+12But did they get bailouts?
- pathouston22, on 11/10/2009, -7/+16Glad to see my tax money being redistributed so people can buy cars.
- stpaulmatt, on 11/10/2009, -3/+10Not too surprising that everyone traded in their Ford "Exploder"
- nocturne81, on 11/10/2009, -1/+7I see bumper stickers all the time that go something like "Out of a job yet? Keep buying foreign!". When the irony of the situation is that the foreign owned production facilities (in my area) are actually employing MORE people than the domestic plants. Why not support the cars that are actually employing people instead of flogging a dead horse? In terms of job security, I would sleep much better at night knowing that I was employed by Toyota as opposed to GM or Ford.
Sorry, done my rant now. Bury me if you like. - nmessick, on 11/10/2009, -1/+7Anyone else see the article from Edmunds that estimated that the government spent $24,000 for each car sold under cash for clunkers, that would not have been sold anyway. When will the idiots in Washington figure out that they are the problem, and not the solution.
- WeBeGood, on 11/10/2009, -7/+12Do you think they ship the profits home?
Where are the engines manufactured? Transmission? Electrical systems? Body panels?
Exactly what percentage is manufactured in the US? - jrm125, on 11/10/2009, -0/+5True GriffCo. However, increased sales to those manufacturers still tend to result in money being pumped back into our economy. Possibly not as much since some of the money has to then leave for other countries, however the same could be said of American car companies that have to pump money over the border.
In the end, more product purchases means more manufacturing, which means more hours, more pay, more jobs, and more money rolling back into our economy.
And people ditched their ***** vehicles for newer, safer, more efficient ones. - lead2thehead, on 11/10/2009, -1/+4You mean they're not driving Toyota Tundras on the narrow streets of Tokyo?
- Super6, on 11/10/2009, -1/+4Ptotectionism is stupid, buy the best car for your money, period. The nature of a global marketplace means that money is coming back to the US one way or another so quit acting like it's 1903.
- balthisar, on 11/10/2009, -1/+3You do because your Taurus was either built in Chicago or Atlanta, not in Canada.
- ogre2112, on 11/10/2009, -1/+3about 33% of the republicans in the house voted for it, as well. 59 people. They had help.
- Ebacherville, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2most old clunker foreign cars didn't qualify they got too good of milage.. you had to get 18mpg or less to qualify.. all but a few foreign cars and trucks get better milage than that .. heck my 1 ton crew cab, dually, turbo diesel pickup gets 19mpg on the hi-way.. 18mpg is a really crappy MPG.. think about it you only travel 18 miles on a milk jug.. but go figure our 2000 Ford "mini van" qualified for the program. We paid $2500 for it 3 years ago did nothing to it but change oil and 1 set of tires.. and got $4500 for it on a new 33 mpg SUV crossover..with a 10 year 100k warrantee.. And thanks to the recession and low interest rates I got the remaining 10k balance financed at 0%.. best car purchase I have ever made in my entire life..
I don't like the program, but if I didn't do it, I'd be paying for it anyways with my taxes.. so I took full advantage of it.
Loads of fords got traded in Ford was not looking for MPG in anything but there sub compact cars for many many many years.. thus why you see almost every states top traded is a ford. - WilliamDavis, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2I think it's great that we can build wealth by destroying cars. It seems to fly in the face of rational thought.
- brad3378, on 11/10/2009, -2/+4Conservatives hate American cars because they are made by black people.
- WeBeGood, on 11/10/2009, -6/+8Cash for Clunkers sure helped out Japan.
- minorthreat, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2I don't understand what counts as domestic? Cars made in America? Or is domestic just a USA based Corporation?
What people perceive as domestic is actually foreign and what is foreign is actually built in the USA. Not only has the american corporations driven their companies into the ground and moved production(remember that production and assembly are different words) out of country. They have deceived american into believing they are helping out "the american people" when you buy their car. And then we give them billions of bail-out money.
It's sick they take advantage of the people like this, but looking at it from the outside, it's quite obvious who the fools are. - brad3378, on 11/10/2009, -1/+3Not counting the cash for clunkers bailout, Yes
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&am ... - lead2thehead, on 11/10/2009, -1/+3Welcome to the global economy. Countries like China and Mexico always beat us when it comes to manufacturing because labor there is too cheap. American labor is too expensive to be competitive in the global marketplace.
- solecize, on 11/10/2009, -2/+4Damn- my ***** factory job got outsourced!
Why can't America be like it was in the 1800's when all the work was 100% American. I wish our country was full of American steel workers and coal miners with lung cancer instead of creating new innovative job markets and leading the world in technology.
It's like we don't understand the game any more- or maybe we just can't compete. - repins, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2I did not see a single state where the most traded in vehicle was not a Ford. I am not so sure it trust the data for this chart.
- Spindig, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/po ...
- rollem, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1It's been made in various locations over the years. I know the Fusion is built in Mexico... which is fine, buy it if it meets your needs, but don't buy it because it's "American."
- Larsonal777, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1OK anybody else see how the most popular car traded in EVERY single state was an explorer or a f150? Maybe that's because Hondas and the like just didn't meet the low standard.
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 11/10/2009, -2/+3Huh?
A lot of domestic cars get better mileage than foreign models... - sangjmoon, on 11/10/2009, -1/+2The stated purpose of this program by Obama was to help the US auto companies as well as increase fuel efficiency of the average car on the road. Not only did this program fail to really help the US auto industry and give the bulk of the profit to Japanese auto makers, but this program only gives a short term temporary boost at the cost of a greater long term negative cost. I'm not for the auto bailout either.
- nmessick, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1Thanks.
- RizzosBack, on 11/10/2009, -4/+5I'm glad to see your money being redistributed.
There should be a doucher tax. - scitz0frenic, on 11/10/2009, -2/+3I notice there were more domestic clunkers traded in than foreign clunkers, even in California.
- dayal911, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1you have to own one before you can trade one in
- wassim2k, on 11/11/2009, -0/+1Oklahoma is weird.
- JewCanDiggIt, on 11/13/2009, -0/+1I was thinking the mpg margins between the most popular "clunker" (ford explorer) and the most popular car it was traded in for(honda civic) would be a bit wider. From what I could find a 92' Explorer gets around 16-20 mpg and an 09' Civic(2.0 ltr) gets a combined 24 mpg(1.8 ltr gets 29 mpg). That's definitely an improvement but just doesn't seem to be worth the huge price tag does it? Is this a more substantial increase than I'm realizing?
- ogre2112, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1So the stereotype is true.. People in California do love Hondas. Bet they got the optional spoiler, too.
- balthisar, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1Sure, but it was never made in Canada.
- sweetwater88, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1Let's put it simply as this: Ford build so many Explorers and F-150 (which is the number 1 selling vehicle in the world) and made so much money of them (Explorer alone made Ford over 200 billion dollars), and last so long that it's only natural they get dumped now. Do you see any Chevy's get dumped? I do. In junkyards.
Also, Ford was a big winner in the Cash-for-clunker scheme: Focus, Escape, and F-150 were top sellers. - Larsonal777, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1do you know where the Midwest is? Because after looking at the graphic i fail to see your "observation"
- brad3378, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1As far as I know, the last Ford car built in Canada was the Crown Victoria. Now they just build engines and Trucks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_factorie ... - wertach, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1Reminds me of the old "Cotton Mill" advertisement. Buy American! Then you go in to their factory's and their machines were made in Europe!
- MWell20, on 11/10/2009, -1/+24WD Explorers were the most popular thing to be traded in... Except for the hillbillies in the midwest.
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Actually.. yea I hear that being brought up all the time. - Ebacherville, on 11/10/2009, -1/+1LOL at the deep southern states.. AL LA, MS, TX, according to stereotypes all the hillbillies traded there ford pickups in for sub compact toyotas.. Wonder how long till they do a 5" lift and a Confederate flag in the back winder.
To be fair, I have property in TX and own a big ass truck, but I didn't trade it in, how the hell do you haul anything substantial in corolla?.. but thinking on stereotypes it's kind of funny -
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