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- Scottypants, on 02/25/2009, -2/+12RIP Print Media :(
Every week it seems as if the Houston Chronicle is getting thinner and thinner (unless it's Christmas and filled with ads) due to lack of demand from consumers. Not only that, but my favorite columnists have resorted to corporate "shock value" tactics instead of their previous, respectable journalism.
As much as I love the availability, convenience, and instant feedback of online sources, there is still nothing that compares to sitting back with a newspaper in hand, reading a month old article on the crapper, or using it as an emergency toilet paper source. - trevor98, on 02/25/2009, -3/+13You can't blame all the problems Newspapers are having on the Interwebs, they would be in a lot better shape if they still had the public trust.
- schwagman, on 02/25/2009, -8/+17R.I.P. Pelosi Fan Club
- franklymister, on 02/25/2009, -1/+8It will be interesting to see what happens when all the primary news sources disappear. Everyone says the "old media" are dying - well, those "old media" are the ones that pay to send reporters to actually gather the news, whether its in the state house, out among the general populace, overseas, or through investigative reporting.
Digg pats itself on the back for being "social news," but where does Digg get its stories? From blogs and news agreggators like Huffington Post, Little Green Footballs, Daily Kos, etc. Those "new media" outlets get most of their content by just linking to the primary news sources, such as the SF Chronicle.
So keep chopping at the base of the tree, guys. Pretty soon it's going to become clear that you can't sit up high in the branches if the trunk has been destroyed. - ATLien74, on 02/25/2009, -4/+8Hearst? You're those ***** that spun all those reefer madness stories back in the 30's which led to prohibition! ***** You! Go out of business and eat *****!
- wiggles, on 02/25/2009, -0/+4The thickness of a newspaper is directly proportional to the amount of advertising they carry. A newspaper has two components -- content and ads. The publisher mandates a specific content-to-ad ratio -- usually somewhere around 50-60% content. However, the amount of ads determines how much content will be in the paper. If they only sell enough ads to fill 10 pages, say, they'll only have enough content to fill 10 pages (assuming a 50/50 content-to-ad ratio). If a newspaper only sold enough ads to fill one single page, then the paper would only have one single page of content to maintain the ratio.
In other words, the reason your paper keeps getting thinner is not because of the newspaper company producing less content -- they'll produce enough content to fill their ratio. It's because nobody's making ad buys in newspapers anymore. - rrouse, on 02/25/2009, -0/+3The paper is not liberal enough for SF.
- PopcornDave, on 02/25/2009, -0/+2Well think about the average intelligence level of the reporters too. They're not the same caliber as the reporters of old and do inject their personal opinions in to stories when they should be reporting the facts and remaining objective unless they're doing an editorial or a column piece.
- ScienceDoc, on 02/25/2009, -4/+5Hearst are neocon bastards and their first love is that neocon piece of crap "The Examiner". You know the one the newly found gun nuts gush over on Digg. Hearst was a Reagan sycophant and is part of what is wrong with this Country today.
- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -0/+1Think about how much money Digg, KOS and all those other link pages get compared to the news papers the ones who spend time reporting, finding stories, employing skilled reporters and the papers earn meager profits. Digg and Kos , all of them have none of there own content yet are exceedingly wealthy for a website WITH NO ORIGINAL CONTENT. If I was the news papers i'd block linkage. I'd be furious over this. All dig and Kos and the like have are a bunch of people good with computers and a community who has no problem giving those sites links so the sites can make money....Kinda seems retarded when you think about it, the users do all the work, Digg makes the money, hmmm
- jefbob, on 02/25/2009, -1/+2Completely agree, I think its a shame that my paper is getting thinner and thinner. It sure is a nice break for your eyes to turn them away from your computer screen and read a few articles out of the paper.
And obviously having something to read on the crapper is nice too. - absurdist, on 02/25/2009, -1/+2Yes, by all means, try it. The perpetual trolling machine Me074 is well versed in it.
BTW, 74 accounts so far? Don't you have a life hidden anywhere? - jefjefjef, on 02/25/2009, -1/+2Think about the average intelligence level of the public though. I don't think it's necessarily that the newspapers are doing bad reporting (though I'm sure that may be the case in some situations), but I think it's just more that a lot of people are too close-minded to what a lot of newspapers have to say.
Just think how many times you've heard the phrase "Goddamn liberal media". - PopcornDave, on 02/25/2009, -0/+1So wait a minute here. Hearst is losing $50M a year on the Chronicle, but they give away the Examiner. How does that make sense?
- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -0/+1Why do some diggers insist on bringing up weed or weed legalization for every ***** article, its annoying and makes the people who post it look retarded.
The only people who should care about legalization are people who need it medicinally, also, the only people who the gov. will listen to are the ones who need it medicinally.
What would you do if you had 1000 crack heads constantly calling your office asking to legalize crack? You'd be pissed eh?
You'd also be a giant ***** hypocrite. (Cocaine used to be legal too, remember? Why are you against having it legal again, if used responsibly its just as safe as weed) - inactive, on 02/25/2009, -3/+4This is what happens when you run a newspaper that toes an ideological line to an extreme degree.
- oldgal, on 02/25/2009, -0/+1The problem with the internet as a news source is that when it pisses me off I can't use it to line the bottom of my bird cages. The Chron will be sorely missed - no one else provides the entertainment we call the SF Board of Supervisors quite like they do.
- PopcornDave, on 02/25/2009, -1/+1No it all went downhill after he *married* the Komodo dragon. He was bitten later in the divorce, and again at the SF Zoo.
- kdor, on 02/25/2009, -1/+1Because San Franciscans prefer butt F'n to reading. Har.
- PactumServa, on 02/25/2009, -1/+1Yes, yes - the neocons are ruining the country (what is a "neocon" anyway?) unless you are a conservative in which case it is the neolibs (why not? makes as much sense) who are ruining it.
The fact that both sides wish to blame the other for ruining the country rather than actually examining what is wrong is what is ruining the country. Both sides are to blame. The unfortunate thing is that they are both also now entrenched in their actions and will not likely cross over even if they privately believe the other side has a good point. there is too much fear of appearing weak.
As proof of this, I have no doubt that you will bury this comment for having insulted your sensibilities.
Please take a seat in the handbasket. - PopcornDave, on 02/25/2009, -0/+0Bay Guardian?
- kdor, on 02/25/2009, -1/+1Washington Post lost 74% of ad accounts in the last quarter of 08. NYT and LAT are junk status stocks. Move along, nothing to see...really.
- ucbmckee, on 02/25/2009, -1/+1SF revolves around Craigslist. What little market exists outside of Craigslist can mostly be found posted either in the SF Weekly or SF Bay Guardian. Looking for a Japanese woman to kick you in the nuts? A slightly used fur-suit? The next neighborhood orgy? Don't go to the Chronicle.
- kronzdigg, on 02/25/2009, -1/+1It would have failed anywhere else in the U.S. by now though.
- trollick, on 02/25/2009, -1/+1It all went down hill after their editor was bitten by Komodo dragon
- nospinhere, on 02/25/2009, -3/+2And this is a loss how? I actually Dugg this article... for different reasons then most will.
- unclefuz, on 02/25/2009, -3/+0the examiner
- 8347, on 02/25/2009, -5/+3I find it ironic that the Hearst Corporation puts out a newspaper that bashes corporations and now they are losing their business. Sounds like they are getting exactly what they wanted.
- 919kwjc, on 02/25/2009, -7/+5Fine by me... thanks for playing.
- humanerror, on 02/25/2009, -3/+1Are the men's room walls all out of space?
- dankreek, on 02/25/2009, -3/+0Maybe all the news papers should sue the Internet for antiquating their business model.
- kronzdigg, on 02/25/2009, -8/+5That liberal rag should die.
- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -9/+4In the age of Internet, one dioes not need a liberal propaganda rag to read DNC talking points.
- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -9/+4I love San Francisco but hate the Chronicle. I always post racist and misogynistic tripe on their online message board and it is deleted minutes later. Digg would never do that to me. Would they?
- redwolfwalker, on 02/25/2009, -7/+1Newspapers don't bite you, if you have itchy fingers
- vipertech, on 02/25/2009, -15/+3Why is this front page on digg? Lame.
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