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- adamward, on 09/12/2009, -2/+155I don't know about you guys, but I TiVo all of the Ellen Degeneres Show episodes for the sole purpose of ripping off the intro music.
Sure, they audience noise may be annoying, and it only lasts about 30 seconds, but its free! And what's more satisfying than destroying the music industry? - heynow21, on 09/12/2009, -0/+130I like how they waited 1000 songs before informing her of this violation.
- rrouse, on 09/11/2009, -3/+127Ellen is probably helping the record sells of the songs she uses for her dancing introduction.
- noonions, on 09/12/2009, -1/+124***** THE RIAA
- Astrad, on 09/12/2009, -1/+85Warner Music is suing Warner Brothers? They're part of the same company...
- mynameisteejay, on 09/12/2009, -1/+82FIA: "In the lawsuit ... the labels said that when they asked why licenses were not obtained for use of the songs, representatives for the show said they 'did not roll that way.'"
Looks like all of us who don't take the RIAA seriously are in good company. - zyklon, on 09/12/2009, -3/+77Will these ***** vampires stop with their ***** *****?
Greedy ***** will never be happy. - TheBadAndy, on 09/12/2009, -7/+76They should fine her $50 000 per song.
- mysql101, on 09/12/2009, -1/+64$50,000 per song per person she broadcasted it to!
- gfxluvr, on 09/12/2009, -2/+65I think Ellen DeGeneres is funny.
(Here I come comment graveyard.) - AngryDeuce, on 09/12/2009, -1/+61Yeah, 'cause Lord knows the free advertising that the artists get by their song being used on national television doesn't effect sales at all...
The RIAA never ceases to amaze me Such a short sighted organization... - twiztidsinz, on 09/12/2009, -4/+61HEATHEN!!!
If you have to 'start up the ol' uTorrent', YOU'RE NOT SEEDING! - kahoona1, on 09/12/2009, -1/+46Does anything the RIAA do make sense?
- FrameWraith, on 09/12/2009, -5/+48"First they came for the students, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a college student. Then they came for the children, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a child. Then they came for the lesbian talk show hosts, and I didn’t speak up, because I was a game show host. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me."
- illustrick, on 09/12/2009, -2/+40someone should tell them, that they can use any song they want as long as it is only 30 seconds.
- SpaceCowb0y, on 09/12/2009, -1/+36Yeah, it's just like if you bought a DVD and let your friends watch it with you, they are stealing!
/s - NiftyG, on 09/12/2009, -0/+32Standard ASCAP and BMI fees for broadcast of a song over television
Charting songs (i.e. top 100) : $5000-9000 per use.
Non-charting songs : $325-1500 per use.
Used as a theme song or played over opening credits : up to $80,000
Not that I agree with any of this, but that's the going rate. - gall0wsp0le, on 09/12/2009, -0/+28So the music companies are suing the TV companies now. This is it, people. The start of the media apocalypse. The corporate jackasses are eating each other alive now.
- mynameisteejay, on 09/12/2009, -0/+27Common sense isn't the point?
- SpyderTaco, on 09/12/2009, -5/+32That's it. Time to start up the ol' uTorrent.
- miken32, on 09/12/2009, -2/+27I thought the response was funnier.
"As sophisticated consumers of music, defendants knew fully well that, regardless of the way they rolled, under the Copyright Act ... they needed a license to use the sound recordings lawfully," the lawsuit stated. - freezerburn666, on 09/12/2009, -1/+22so what? are you going to sue every dj in every ***** nightclub?
- mynameisteejay, on 09/12/2009, -1/+21How the hell does that work?!
- rockytop9808, on 09/12/2009, -0/+19Maybe since they're going after a big name that people kind of like (I think) we will see an even larger number of people resisting the jackasses who run the RIAA.
- bfogarty27, on 09/12/2009, -1/+20she hit 1000!!
time to roll on this bitch fellas - FrameWraith, on 09/12/2009, -2/+19Greed is the point.
- dawgma, on 09/12/2009, -0/+17That's at least $150,000,000,000,000.
Sounds reasonable. RIAA would approve. - onlines, on 09/12/2009, -1/+18I would like to see a study done, if possible, into how much Ellen increased (if at all) record sales when the songs were played. What goes through the mind of these record execs sometimes?
"She is playing our music, but we're making profits... let's make more by suing the person helping us in some way" - jayp900, on 09/12/2009, -1/+18I love how this happens right after she joins AI. Maybe the labels are trying to blackmail AI/FOX into giving them more money to let contestants sing their songs? I wouldn't put it past them.
- Pr0phet, on 09/12/2009, -2/+18Yep. My wife and stepdaughter buy those songs because they heard them on Ellen.
- SaladCactusKing, on 09/12/2009, -0/+16No, Warner Music split off because Warner Brothers didn't want the RIAAs ***** anymore.
- Tubal22, on 09/12/2009, -1/+16So Warner Bros. is suing Time Warner? Wish I was at the dinner table this thanksgiving.
- tacotacotaco, on 09/12/2009, -0/+14Nightclubs pay a licensing fee to some organizations (ASCAP/BMI maybe?) to allow DJs to play other people's music.
Same thing with bars and rock clubs. If you've ever been to a rock club that only lets bands play their own music and absolutely no covers, its most likely because the club owner decided not to pay this fee. - kahoona1, on 09/12/2009, -3/+17Calm down little Billy, everything will be okay.
- askantik, on 09/12/2009, -4/+18Radio is not the same thing as playing 30 seconds of a song on a TV show.
"Grow up and understand how the mother ***** world works."
How about you calm down and understand how teh interwebz works ;) - Onitment, on 09/12/2009, -0/+13"That's not how we roll." Ha Ha . . .
- DeadpoolPHP, on 09/12/2009, -0/+13Fockin record labels.
I guess they decided it was a waste of money to sue 12 year old kids for millions and sue TV stars instead. - TheIndigoSky, on 09/12/2009, -1/+14FOOKIN PROONS!
- spiralspirit, on 09/12/2009, -2/+15sure can - you dont own the songs, you've bought a license that allows you specific uses of the music. You can't play it in your restaurant, you can't distribute it to others, etc. So no, you can't do that.
- therage96, on 09/12/2009, -0/+13I have to say, it's a damn shame that in today's "everyone is a winner" society, that companies and industries like these are able to use the courts to prop up and support their failing business models. I fully support that artists and software writers should be paid a fair wage for their work, but please tell me, where is it written that the RIAA and its supporting companies are entitled to $X amount of profit each year, and if that profit is not made, they can extort that from citizens by strong-arming them through the courts?
It's as if people have gotten really used to certain ways of doing things, and suddenly are unable to change or accept that big changes need to be made. GM is a great example of this. The company had completely inept leadership, proven by their putrid sales, and yet, rather than let them go into bankruptcy immediately, and likely come out a much more streamlined company for it, the government first dumps tons of taxpayer cash to try to save it only to have the aforementioned happen anyway! Argh!!!! - inactive, on 09/12/2009, -3/+14yes.
- geefull, on 09/12/2009, -0/+11Don't go giving vampires a bad name.
- Atario, on 09/12/2009, -0/+10Ellen /is/ funny. (Or, at least, she was the times I've seen her stand-up sets. I don't watch the show.)
- Maddoktor2, on 09/12/2009, -4/+14She should charge them for promoting the songs to a national audience.
- boardwalk, on 09/12/2009, -1/+11Is their no end to the sick greed of these parasitic corporations ?
May they rot in hell with their overpriced *****. - mynameisteejay, on 09/12/2009, -1/+11Good golly you're right! What a moran!
- blumarlin1, on 09/12/2009, -1/+10Wait a second..."The program is produced and distributed by various divisions of Time Warner Inc."
"The lawsuit was filed by Warner Music Group Corp,..."
They are suing their former parent company? The original people that created them, gave them their jobs and those artists albums, and they're suing them??? WTF has the world come to. - hivoltage815, on 09/12/2009, -0/+9I remember Warner Music got sold to private investors a few years back because there was articles about big name acts on the label like Linkin Park and Madonna wanting the artists to get a cut from the sale. The label made billions and passed nothing to the musicians on which their wealth was built.
- Sil369, on 09/12/2009, -0/+9*****.
- uncleosbert, on 09/12/2009, -0/+9they are a spin off company. in the article, it names A Very Good Production, ellen's company, as the defendant, but warner bros was negotiating with the record companies all along?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Music_Group
weird! -
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