What is Digg?Sponsored by Dragon Age: Origins
See the new YouTube feature trailer for Dragon Age: Origins view!
youtube.com/DragonAge - EA presents BioWare's new dark fantasy epic Dragon Age: Origins. '9/10' from Game Informer.
132 Comments
- canewediggit, on 10/12/2007, -4/+93i can't wait to read about my local record store getting raided by a swat team because they carry white label remixes. or be in a club and have the fbi come shut the place down because the dj played tracks using uncleared samples.
i'm proud to live in a society where we have no issue more pressing than underground mixtapes for our authorities to deal with. - djm0ther, on 10/12/2007, -0/+42What Dj doesnt put out mixtapes? This is crazy!
- NinjaBoy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+41"bootlegging operations 'often lead to other offenses'"
It so does. I just got done ripping cds and then I thought, Hey I should sell crack! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+39 Soon enough the guitar tab makers will be doing hard time.
- SoundJudgment, on 10/12/2007, -0/+38Since we... as a nation... ALLOWED them to do so. Everyone keep buying those overpriced CDs... download those 99 cent songs, and attend the latest so-called 'Blockbuster' movie for $20 a showing. The RIAA and MPAA thanks YOU for your continued financial support.
- Gunsmith, on 10/12/2007, -1/+37Being original will soon be a crime.
- johndi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+34Making music without a license will soon be a crime.
- NinjaBoy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+35Its nice to know the police have solved all the other problems.....oh wait....
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+30And I want everyone to remember that Lars Ulrich was there right at the very beginning screaming the loudest. Despite the fact that Metallica was built on people sharing copies of their tapes that piece of s#it was one of the first (and most vocal) on line to support this war on music lovers.
As this war gets worse and worse don't every forget that piece of crud stridently proclaiming that if you don't like his support of the RIAA then they don't want you as fans.
Thank you for digging up to indulge my personal anti-Lars campaign. - littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27I am SO tired of the RIAA. I'm tired of them getting away with this Mob *****. Time to do something about it:
http://www.house.gov/writerep/
If no one does anything but complain to each other on the Internet (which has been going on for 8 years), nothing will change. - borninda818, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24Since when did the RIAA have the power to pull off such a raid? I thought they were just a ***** lobby.
- pittpat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21"While the CDs are consistently integrated into marketing campaigns for hip-hop projects, labels do not formally condone the use of non-copyrighted music."
Why the hell should they care about NON-COPYRIGHTED music.....it's NOT COPYRIGHTED! The RIAA is made up of a bunch of ***** hypocrites! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19News report complete with Sherriff commentary here:
http://www.digg.com/music/DJ_Drama_and_Don_Cannon_Gangsta_Grizzillz_arrested
Listen how they comment that "no drugs or illegal weapons were found" and that bootlegging operations "often lead to other offenses" - canewediggit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17and their t.i. led track "top down low" is on heavy rotation on mtv jams. it was (to the best of my knowledge) a track off one of their mix-tapes which got so popular the label scooped it up and made a video. ***** hypocrites.
- AeroSquid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16watch the video here>> http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=2083928&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1
Notice the S.W.A.T. team with guns and jackets that read RIAA?
that's ***** scary and very accurate. - frisbeeman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Isn't it the club that's supposed to pay ASCAP to cover things like that?
- Dhalsim007, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16I've been to a club in Philly where that happened...about 4-5 years ago. They shut the DJ down because he didn't pay royalties on his music to the proper agencies (ASCAP/BMI, I think? Right?)
- Arkonnan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Damn, that's pretty scary. I didn't know the RIAA was its own law enforcement agency. Do these people have RIAA-branded judges and executioners too?
- unicornhunter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Yep, this pretty much affects everyone who enjoys the free flow of music...at clubs, record stores, sharing music with friends, etc.
- canewediggit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12yes, you missed something entirely. the underground mixtape circuit is comprised (mostly) of artists doing new music but sold independently of the labels. it's the way unknown artists get recognized (like that guy 50 cent, made his name on mix-tapes way before eminem signed him) and underground producers release remixes for club djs and whatnot. it's not like they are just taking popular singles and compiling them and then reselling them for $5. it's the lifeblood of the underground. true, it usually involves no sample clearance, no guest appearance fees for major label artists, and beats used in other songs, but it's not just guys selling other people's cds. they are original works.
edit- ok then, sorry i typed all that out. - FearNLoathing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11The very same labels that had them raided use mixtapes for promoting their artists. Hypocrites? Yes!
- unicornhunter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Exactly. It's still sinking in with me.
- EdLesMann, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11"Being original will soon be a crime."
You mean its not already? With all of the sequals done/announced combined with all of the remakes this year I could have sworn that it was... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9No, they were selling their own mixtapes (which is why they often spam their name at the beginning or end of evey track). The artists who appear on these mixtapes literally come to Drama and asks him to host a mixtape. They then proceed to pay him (at least 30k from what a friend in "the biz" who has attempted to work with Drama tells me) to do so which comes with so many original and popular beats. The artists themselves approve of the mixtape, more than likely the deal is between the artist and DJ..no execs are included. He then proceeds to play them on his locally broadcast radio show, myspace page, website, etc. and sells them accordingly. I have purchased a few of his mixtapes from local stores and while there are 1 or 2 popular tracks (which usually end up on the artist's own not yet released CD) on there, the overwhelming majority of the music is original. Beats, lyrics, everything.
If you ever get a chance to listen to a real mix CD, you will notice that 90% of the stuff is original. Again its usually an agreement between the DJ and the artist with minimal amount of middle men. It is how artists get their name out to "the streets" without going through the usual hassel of record execs, radio execs, MTV execs, etc. It is usually used as a medium to start or settle beef between artists as well since there is usually no one to sign off on the lyrics that are used there. Therefore you can say virtually anything you want to and it will make the CD. It also gives a chance for underground artists to make a name for themselves.
Most of the legendary dj's in hip hop (DJ Premier, DJ Clue, DJ Red Alert, DJ Drama, DJ Quick, etc.) had a mixtape franchise at some time in their career before becoming full blown official producers.
But this is just how I understand it so take this all with a grain of salt. - Palehorse68, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Anyone else notice that they were arrested under the RICO Act?
Ironic that an act passed to help deal with the Mafia is now being used by the MAFIAA. - omatsei, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8This is all starting to sound like Rush 2112. Wait, can I make reference to the story behind a great classic rock album?
For those not "in the know"... Rush 2112 is about a totalitarian government in the future (the year 2112.. get it?) that outlaws all music. One man finds a guitar in a cave, and learns how to play it. He loves the music he makes so much, he tells the government-sponsored priests, who prompted destroy the guitar. In the end, he commits suicide, realizing that he can't live any longer in a world that can't accept something so beautiful. - SteelChicken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Im really confused...all of the material was completely original, as in not stolen? They were charged with what exactly...selling their own music they created without first sucking on the RIAA's weiner?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"i'm proud to live in a society where we have no issue more pressing than underground mixtapes for our authorities to deal with. "
It is absolutely insane that we have law enforcement professionals wasting their time and the time of the criminal justice system on f'ing mix tapes! We don't have any more problems with violent crime, drugs, chop shops, and actual organized crime that we're charging mix-tape DJ's under the RICO act? Because it's not like we don't have enough people in the criminal justice system already. Imagine sharing a cell with these hard cases. What are you in for? Mix-tapes? Wow, don't mess with those guys.
This is, if anything, a matter for the civil courts. A far bigger concern is that we as a nation have gone right off the beam and seem to be teetering on the edge of collective insanity. - captainspanky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8i don't understand how they can get off calling this stealing. firstly its music. music is an art form. if i want to buy a cd, i buy it for 2 reasons. One, the manufactured case and cd, and two, because i want to support that artist. But these guys aren't taking a song right off a cd and selling it as it. They're changing it and making it sound like they think it should sound. its like an painter looking at a picture of the mona lisa and painting his own opinion of how it should look like and then selling it. Should that artist be arrested because he started with the mona lisa and made his own version of the picture.
- PeTeRZz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7This is just sickening...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I missed the edit timer but I also meant to mention that over the weekend DJ Drama and Don Cannon announced on their radio show (which is broadcast on a pretty well known station in the area) that they were just signed to a major record label due to their success in the underground market. Irony?
- autodata, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7A record distributer I know mentioned yesterday that this has happened to a store in NYC that he sells to. It's crazy, particularly since mixtapes have been widely available for *decades*
- sse1281, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Perhaps they should move to Sealand.
- meltingrobot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6http://riaaradar.com/
- edrift101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Careful! The RIAA will sue you just for talking about that album.
- jstroot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This is such BS!!!!! I wish someone with some major legal power would attack and take down the RIAA.
I understand that artists want to make money, but the no talent hacks at the record labels should get a minority of the profit that artists make.
Here's to one more piece of an unrealistic, ideal world. - edrift101, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7As an ex-DJ, I know that mixtapes are essential for getting gigs and is common practice. Hell, I've got a couple out there that the club released to the public...
- playerslight, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7If the RIAA didn't raid, why is their logo on the jackets of the 'raiders'?
- waz67, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Oh my god! They didn't list the true name and address of their office! Off with their heads!
Really, why is it that big a deal? It says "CDs must list the true name and address of their office, which these CDs didn't, nor did they [list] copyright permission". Since when does not printing some stuff on the CD = piracy? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I have a feeling that one of these days someone's going to go bonkers and start assassinating the heads of the RIAA/MPAA.
Sidenote: It's funny... In this society of free speach and what have you, I'm a little apprehensive about posting a comment like this. Not because there's anything wrong with voicing my concern for these individuals who are obviously hated by a good many people, but because it's a comment about the RIAA/MPAA... And who knows... Could we all be detained or prosecuted because we said something that the MAFIAA didn't like? Doesn't seem so far fetched lately. - mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Now I have decided to finally get done with all commercial music having RIAA affiliations. Good thing I reformatted my harddrive only 2 days ago and I'm going to rebuild my music collection from scratch with only indie artists.
- edrift101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The RIAA can go to hell.
- bradtacs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5These djs DO pay for music, as a dj i can tell you i spend probably 200% of what an average person spends on music in a year. It is also not unusual to get free promo tracks from labels and artists.
- omatsei, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@retawd: Are you somehow suggesting that reading guitar tabs isn't "reading music"? I play both the piano and the guitar, and you try playing the guitar while reading piano sheet music... pinhead.
- TechLaw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I am so happy that the RICO statute is doing good protecting us from biker gangs, organized crime, drug smugglers, illegal business practices, and MIX TAPES!
- spliffy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4no, i think the majority of diggers are just against the current system were the riaa takes steals peoples physical assets for duplicating their intellectual property.
wholesale sampling is about as much of a crime as warhols silkscreens - angusm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This is more or less what happened at Kim's in New York:
http://www.gothamist.com/archives/2005/06/10/st_marks_kims_raided.php
It is later than you think. - digitalsin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This is just totally sickening.
Someone needs to go rob a few banks or something and give these pigs something worthwhile to do. - hellhathnofury, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Funniest thing is most of Dramas mixtapes are done WITH THE ARTISTS!!! And the they cosign the mixtapes.
The RIAA does not understand how much money they will make off this, and when I say THEY I mean Drama and Canon being able to exploit the whole situation into a lucrative mixtape series.
the RIAA needs to grow up. - gomezfreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4sarcasm
Next month they're going start shutting down kids birthday parties b/c the parents didn't pay the ASCAP for playing the Hokey Pokey over the family stereo. The following month, they're going to start ripping people out of their cars at stop lights b/c "other people" can hear the CD you're playing.
/sarcasm
Is it just me, or is this ***** getting absolutely ridiculous? If you're in a band now you can't even play a cover song without fear of being fined by these self defeating *****.
I guess the next thing they'll tell us is that we can't sign our bands with European labels because its "Un-American"
I say ***** em, I'm signed with an indie label an *gasp* I still OWN my music, and I get a bigger cut than with a big label. Granted, the music is released on a smaller scale, but still, its better than bending over for these guys to "let me have 10-15%" of the profits of MY creation, when all they do is STEAL rights from the artists then cry that someones stealing from them. -
Show 51 - 100 of 132 discussions
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is