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- OttawaMarcin, on 01/03/2008, -3/+71Another reason life gets better after high school.
- brbeaird, on 01/03/2008, -3/+64FTA: "Since then, parents have argued that the phones are a vital safety link to their children"
I don't know how we survived before cell phones. - imikedaman, on 01/03/2008, -0/+33.. / -.-. .- -. .----. - / -... . .-.. .. . ...- . / -.-- --- ..- / -... --- - .... . .-. . -.. / - .-. .- -. ... .-.. .- - .. -. --. / - .... .. ... / -.-- --- ..- / -. . .-. -..
- Mike89, on 01/03/2008, -2/+34I'll tell you how - parents actually trusted their kids. At least, compared to these days. Now, there's too many overprotective parents who think the point of their teens always having the phone on them is so they can ring and check up whenever they want. Back when I was 14 or 15, a few parents used to do it to their kids when they were in actual classes.. I mean come on!
- ChinezePanda, on 01/03/2008, -1/+33My own father and mother began to lose faith in the school system when teachers and the staff started labeling each and every student as a terrorizing delinquent.
Example: 5th graded suspended for ten days. WHY? Because she brought a "weapon" to lunch.... a steak knife to cut her steak her mother packed her for lunch. - KenSPT, on 01/03/2008, -5/+35Cell phones are a fad. Morse code, that's where it's at ...
- insllvn, on 01/03/2008, -8/+36You know what? I have an idea! Why don't we focus on teaching kids something in school rather than what they carry around in their pockets! "Oh Noes! Cell phones are why our childrens isn't learning!" Wrong asshat! Crappy teachers, rediculous rules, poor curriculum, and teaching to meaningless tests are the problem. Make a really simple rule, like if your cell phone proves a distraction to others (it rings, you are talking on it in class, you are always texting at high speeds and producing a lot of noise, etc.) you lose the cell phone till the end of class, or the end of the day. Problem solved. Now can we talk about why we are the stupidest industrialized nation on EARTH for a second?
- iceman0113, on 01/03/2008, -1/+24FTA: "Council members who approved the bill in September - overriding a mayoral veto by a vote of 46 to 2 - hoped it would spur the Department of Education to find a solution to that vexing question."
So the mayor vetoed it, but the council members overrode him and passed the problem on to the Department of Education instead of correcting the problem in the first place. GG - jonms83, on 01/03/2008, -0/+17coin operated... wow, thank goodness.. for a second i though someone wouldn't be making money off this
- KidTechno, on 01/03/2008, -0/+15never ceases to amaze me how stupid some school boards are....
- brianu16, on 01/03/2008, -0/+14dugg for referring to cell phones as "gizmos"
- protogenxl, on 01/03/2008, -0/+14Nowadays every major carrier offers phones that have a GPS location reporting feature and service to go with it. So what the parents should be saying is "Cellphones are Vital for Keeping track of these Teenage Degenerates."
- Otto, on 01/03/2008, -0/+13Err... when I was a kid, I brought GUNS to school. That's right, a couple of rifles in fact. Demonstrated one of them too. In 6th grade. Nobody had any problem with it. This was in the 80s, BTW.
- moosebaloney, on 01/03/2008, -6/+19You know these parents are the CRAZY PTA parents who want vending machines removed from schools.
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -0/+13It's not that the vending machine is bad, it's that some parents feel the need to nanny everything. Rather than control their children directly, they feel they can more effectively parent by controlling the environment.
These are the same clowns that feel the need to change a Christmas Tree into a Holiday Shrub. - AwesomeToast, on 01/03/2008, -0/+12Ah, groups of people making decisions. Further proof that none of us is as dumb as all of us.
- pintomp3, on 01/03/2008, -2/+12seriously, what ever happened to calling the school to get a message to your kid in the case of emergency?
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -6/+16I'm sorry, why would removing vending machines be bad?
- MacEnvy, on 01/03/2008, -0/+10It's always been that way:
"God made the Idiot for practice, and then He made the School Board."
-Mark Twain - Firehed, on 01/03/2008, -0/+9So teachers steal their students iPods, and then claim it wasn't the school's fault. Nice.
Seriously, who gives a crap? So long as you're not listening, calling, or texting in class, there's no harm with it being there. - KaJuN4, on 01/03/2008, -0/+9High schools love to increase their control over students. I loved my freshman year because we were allowed to do little things that made the day nicer (eating lunch outside on nice days for example). But then a new principal put an end to a lot of those freedoms and the next three years were miserable.
- akatherder, on 01/03/2008, -1/+9Don't these kids have normal lockers? Just put it in your locker at the beginning of the day and take it out when school is over. Or keester it.
- LuckyASN, on 01/03/2008, -1/+9My old high school had a similar problem. During my tenure, they came up with an official "unofficial" rule which was, the phone stays off and in your book bag or locker. If they saw it, a warning. If they saw you talking on it, it was confiscated. The only time you could use it on school grounds was outside of school, before and after school. It actually worked out pretty well.
Emergency messages still had to be passed through the main office. Which proved to be much quicker and easier then going the "cell phone to your kid" route. And 9/11 proved they could handle the call volume. - otaku22, on 01/03/2008, -2/+10I completely trust my kid. But I work in Manhattan and my wife works in Jersey, and it would be REALLY nice to be able to get in touch with my son in case of an emergency (like 9/11, or the power blackout, or the steam pipe explosion outside my office, or...)
And, as for brbeird, I don't know whether you are being sarcastic about not being able to get along without cellphones, but I remember so many screw-ups where you couldn't get in touch with someone (like my father trying to pick us up after the circus) that I really cannot imagine getting along without them. - Otto, on 01/03/2008, -1/+9Why would removing them be good?
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -1/+8What is so hard about allowing students to carry cellphones, but suspend and expell for usage at inappropriate times.
Zero tolerance is also known as zero common sense - blackbeardtron, on 01/03/2008, -1/+8It's all about Smoke Signals. All the cool kids do it.
- affanjam, on 01/03/2008, -2/+9It's all part of the Wussification of America... I'm in grade 12 and don't have a cell phone. I don't even need one, when i'm out if i need to reach my parents somehow...theres a pay phone or you can politely ask someone if you can use their phone for a minute.
- kurtwinter, on 01/03/2008, -1/+8Face it: cell phones are a necessity. With more and more parents working until after their children arrive home, phones are a connection with them and their kids. Students should learn how to do responsibly manage them - keep them on vibrate or silent during class (just like in real life) and only use them outside of class. Passing messages via text is just something teachers are going to have to look out for during tests. Next question please.
- entrophize, on 01/03/2008, -1/+7"students may bring their cellphones to school - but they may not brrring them in."
WAKKA WAKKA WAKKA!! - objectcode, on 01/03/2008, -0/+6"eating lunch outside on nice days for example"
i hear that. we had open campus lunch at our school so we could leave school during lunch hour - davidsmero, on 01/03/2008, -0/+6Calling someone a retard without reason.....now that's retarded.
- jonshipman, on 01/03/2008, -0/+6Where do you go to school and which entrance do you use?
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -0/+6Exactly, punish the disruption and student, not everyone with the device. Schools somewhere along the way came up with this idea that they can repossess property, or dictate whats appropriate arbitrarily (we aren't talking about guns, we're talking about cellphones, baggy jeans and do-rags here).
Real consequences for students will quickly scare good students straight. Bad students lose out on opportunities. It's really that simple. putting student lives at risk in order to extend yet another chance to students who don't want to be there, clearly exposes the hipocracy of Zero Tolerance. Zero Tolerance doesn't exist. Its Zero Tolerance so we can Tolerate All.
What's next banning rock n roll? - Coffeedemon, on 01/03/2008, -0/+5Maybe its just my environment growing up or the times themselves (Atlantic Canada, late 80s) but we could do whatever we wanted when we weren't in class... walk to the nearby mall, go shoot a few games of pool, back when my older highschool was more rural we could go grab a few crab apples off some guys tree and get chased by his dogs. Kids today sound more like slaves/inmates.
- affanjam, on 01/03/2008, -0/+5I can't believe I actually did.
- Firehed, on 01/03/2008, -1/+6If they're that worried, they shouldn't have kids. It'll do us all a favor.
- 5of6, on 01/03/2008, -0/+5Students need to bring their "turned off" phones to school and leave them "in their backpack, or purse". In case of an emergency, the phone can be turned on and used. The problem with cell phones is that kids don't do this. They use them all day long in school (on the sly) to text message their friends. They get permission to go the bathroom and then chat with their friends. If you are concerned about your child's education, this is a distraction they don't need. And if you think schools can solve this problem without parental support, dream on.
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -1/+6How pathetic. The public education system in this country is in complete shambles and these morons are babbling about cell phones.
- davidsmero, on 01/03/2008, -2/+7Not sure about everyone else, but I would want my kid to carry a cell phone to school. What if there were an emergency. You can't trust the school system to relay messages.
- pintomp3, on 01/03/2008, -0/+59/11 changed everything?
- KaJuN4, on 01/03/2008, -2/+7I really don't understand why people seem to think high schools have to be run like prisons. The kids are in class seven hours a day, five days a week, nine months a year. Not to mention another hour or two of homework that somehow couldn't be taught in the limited time frame that is the school day. Cut them some slack! If officials and teachers are worried about students not learning everything that's on the curriculum well then maybe they need to take another look at their system. Now that I'm in college I learn far more from a four hour per week, ten week class than I learned from whole year classes in high school.
- jonshipman, on 01/03/2008, -0/+5duh, to look up test answers on the WAP
- wbeavis, on 01/03/2008, -1/+6Cell phone in school? That's a tasing.
- localzuk, on 01/03/2008, -0/+5We have a 'phones, ipods and other gadgets are banned in school' rule, but the kids can bring them to and from school. They just have to hand them in to the front office at the beginning of school - and they are made aware that they are not covered by school insurance, so any loss or damage is not the school's responsibility.
- theutopian, on 01/03/2008, -0/+4What I don't get is you walk out of high school in June as a Senior and walk into college in August and you can bring all the ipods, computers, cell phones, wear whatever you want, etc. It's the same damn group of kids. What does it ***** matter kids bring into school? College was so freeing. It's how education SHOULD be. High School was a joke. They spend two years of college teaching you how to think because they didn't teach you in HS.
- theutopian, on 01/03/2008, -0/+4Phones on vibrate are just as annoying. Everyone can still hear your getting a phone call in a quiet room. No, put them on SILENT.
- schnikies79, on 01/03/2008, -0/+4We had skeet shooting in HS, so with a parents note we could bring a shotgun. My principle was a huge gun fan and was handgun target shooting national champion for a few years in a row. He was also a farmer so he had no problems with guns.
Granted I went to HS in a rural community, but no one (teachers, parents, administrators) ever had a problem with it. I graduated in '98. - jonshipman, on 01/03/2008, -4/+8because their kids would lose weight and become attractive and MIGHT get dates and then leave the nest.
The secret wish of all mothers is to have their sons live in the basement for eternity. - staticneuron, on 01/03/2008, -0/+4"The city's aggressive enforcement of the cellphone ban began in April 2006, when Mayor Bloomberg introduced a new initiative that sent metal detectors at random to public schools. Cellphones were among the items confiscated."
It's because the mayor started the problem in the first place. There are going to be problems if the mayor and the council do not see eye to eye, so the next logical step is to get the DOE to solve it themselves. Which they should. -
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