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- Crazyredivan, on 12/24/2008, -4/+24How about the "we'd rather not live our jobs in an obsessive 24-hour a day" reason? I like that one more.
Using technology to be more productive allows us greater flexibility, rather than having to be strapped to our desks for more than 40 hours a week (because, let's face it, if you are between 21-28 years old, you are trying to show that you are not expendable, and usually get the crap jobs shoved on you). - BigManOnCampus, on 12/24/2008, -3/+21Actually, The Gen-X'ers have been fighting them on this tooth-and-nail. You Gen-Y'ers have us to thank for it being so easy to get them to concede.
- inactive, on 12/24/2008, -1/+17wtf I thought I was Gen X? Stop confusing my identity, I have enough problems
- AlbinoRaven, on 12/24/2008, -0/+16Get off my lawn!
- AnalogAssassin, on 12/24/2008, -0/+13I'm 38, right in the middle of Gen X, and I remember when I was graduating from college, my first jobs, reading the same articles, about the difference in philosophy b/w gen x and the baby boomers. I agree to a point that perhaps we have fought for some of the liberties the gen y'ers are enjoying. Then again, the boomers also changed things in the 80s, some good, some bad.
- PhantomRogue, on 12/24/2008, -5/+18We are different than your generation, just like you were different than the previous generation. And come to think of it, I *THINK* the generations before us have the Entitlement and Lack of Personal Responsibility tag.... Billion Dollar Bailouts for PRIVATE companies, HUGE Parachute packages for executives...
Use common sense before you throw out entitlement and lack of personal responsiblity terms eh? - Lewie, on 12/24/2008, -2/+14I'm with PhantomRogue. Baby-Boomers are the "ME ME ME" generation. Look around you; which generation is begging for handouts after they destroyed the economy? If anything, Gen-Y is the generation that fixes this mess, and hopefully we prevent this type of greed and mismanagement in the future.
- pinchduck, on 12/24/2008, -0/+11Only the insecure boneheads. I'm 40 and love getting together with the folks right out of college. Their enthusiasm is infectious, their creativity is inspiring, and they are a lot of fun to be around. I run my own small business and hope to start hiring in the near future, you can bet I'll be looking at recent grads for those very reasons. As to those who complain about Gen-Y, my reply is that Plato bitched about the youth in Greece, and every old geezer has claimed that the worlds is going to hell in a hand-basket ever since. What a bunch of tripe.
- inactive, on 12/24/2008, -0/+11More like "Generation-If-You-Try-To-Give-Us-A-Stupid-Name-We'll-Whine-About-It-On-Our-Blogs".
- malice8691, on 12/24/2008, -0/+10their technologically advanced minds stop working when the internet connection goes down.
- dolanman, on 12/24/2008, -1/+11What a dumb ***** article. They describe an entire age group by naming the most popular web 2.0 sites... Yea 'cause that's what makes us creative and worthwhile employees.
- dougs55, on 12/24/2008, -0/+10Nah, sometimes journalists have to write articles to justify their salaries even when they have nothing to say.
- mrmod, on 12/24/2008, -16/+26is it the 'entitlement' reason or the 'lack of personal responsibility' reason?
- ChefGroovy, on 12/24/2008, -0/+9The Y's have it waaaay easier. As a 39 years old x'er, I had to put up with the real "change of the guard". All the bosses where hardcore, black tie types. Back talk, thinking outside the box? They didn't know there was a box.
Hell,we got spanked by teachers! Try that on these pussy gen y'er, they'd run to mommy quicker than you could say "did you see the hills last night". In my world, from grade 1-6 the kids would be lined up and paddled every day, regardless of if they something or not, if they did something just hit em harder. But I digress...
The Y'er got it made because the X'er paved the way for them. They are riding on our coattails and won't even admit it. Sickening. - inactive, on 12/24/2008, -1/+10Dont forget Generation Deuchebag, the current crop of highschoolers.
Even as a Gen Y kid they are a bunch of spoiled, inconsiderate, self centered pricks to me - Wargala, on 12/24/2008, -1/+10My line of work is Network Admin'ing. Yes, I have had what the press have called "helicopter parents" calling me up and complaining when their son got a bad performance review (he was constantly late, didn't know the job, complained, etc)
As for Zakbroman, you're a perfect example. Enjoy long lines at the unemployment office as well as low paying wages, while you complain about how the "man" is "keeping you down".
Give me a kid with his head screwed on straight, who'll work hard, complain little, and good trouble shooting skills, and I'll show you a kid with a bright future, good wages, and for the most part will be recession proof.
Or give me a veteran. Those guys are excellent at team work, take orders well, and are creative and resourceful when it comes to getting things done.
Heed my words Digg. If you think the real world owes you something, you're in for a rough surprise. You complain about when the United States shows up 17th in line of Science, Math, and Engineering, but not one of you are willing to say "I don't pay attention in school, and I'm the reason why we're doing poorly".
You socialize with your friends, ignore school, and have poor work ethic. THAT'S why we're doing poorly.
Digg me down if you'd like, but it's never easy to take a look in a mirror. I've done that a ton of times in my life and have changed for the better each time I've done it. - ethereel, on 12/24/2008, -0/+7If you work for me be aware that I am not paying you to text or surf youtube/myspace/facebook...
- Cadicus, on 12/24/2008, -4/+11Are old people really afraid of me?
- thespiff, on 12/25/2008, -0/+6Seriously, I've got as many drunk pics on facebook as any other guy who's been in college sometime in the last 5 years, but I'm not running around bitching about how it defines me as a person and older co-workers aren't respecting that.
- tucsonwc, on 12/24/2008, -2/+8An article about douchebags, by douchebags. Very douchey!
Stop surfing and do some work! - ayeroxor, on 12/24/2008, -3/+8"the grand incite into people"
Insight? - cweave, on 12/24/2008, -11/+16Good thoughts here. We are slowing seeing the old guard say "***** it - let them do what works for them". Employers are finally understanding the twenty something crowd does things differently for a reason...
- thespiff, on 12/25/2008, -0/+5OK my fellow Gen-Yers, I challenge you to show the business value of a Social Networking site to a company that already has e-mail, telephones, and internal IM. I'm all for companies treating us like adults instead of censoring our internet, but I find the argument in this article to be very weak.
Facebook is a distraction at work, although it is a very useful tool in our social lives. This isn't about old people resisting change, it's about young people whining about the old people when they can't prove the old people wrong.
We'd probably have a lot more luck making the honest argument: "Look, I can use my telephone to make external calls to my buddies/girlfriend/wife/ferret and you don't care about that as long as I don't abuse it. Why not exercise the same policy with social networking sites?" - zoydberg, on 12/24/2008, -0/+5Favorite QFTA- "Intel recently conducted a study in which it discovered that even though companies are fearful that Gen-Y employees pose a great threat with their technological advanced minds and ideals, companies are beginning have developed an “if you can’t beat them join them mentality""
"technological advanced minds and ideals" made me lol, love it. - abrasion, on 12/25/2008, -0/+5Hey man I'm generation X and I have bitch *****, although I'm only FAT not obese (still trying though)
- Duncan3, on 12/25/2008, -0/+5Hahahahhaha, like any of these slackers will have jobs shortly. They will be the first to go if they aren't gone already.
Fortunately, they are young and flexible, and will learn to work hard and quick slacking at work IN A HURRY. - thespiff, on 12/25/2008, -0/+4All we need to lose is Wikipedia and/or google, not the whole internets.
- RipleyIsDead, on 12/24/2008, -0/+4Troll detected.
- amadeusdemarzi, on 12/24/2008, -4/+8Yay, unfounded generalizations!
Like the article, your post is crap. - andreusboy, on 12/24/2008, -0/+4Nothing speaks 'entitlement' reason and 'lack of personal responsibility' more than the the very same dinosaurs that are saying '***** the world give me all the money and the rest of you die later in the ***** mess we just want to leave'.
- cello, on 12/24/2008, -1/+5What do you mean? The article says Gen-Y'ers are 22 to 28.
As a 28 year old, I never thought of myself of a Gen-Xer. When I was 15 (in 1995) Gen Xers were already 20 somethings.
(I should also point out I don't consider myself a Gen-Yer either. Those of us born in 1980 are the lost children) - specialK16, on 12/24/2008, -2/+6Here we again with the old guys saying we want everything for free.
- inactive, on 12/24/2008, -1/+5Dude, if I was in your shoes when a parent called in, I'd throw out the legal implications of discussing private business matters with non-payroll folks, and end the conversation instantly.
I can't believe that mommy and/or daddy would call you to complain. I mean, I guess anything is possible..but if it's true you have got to get some of those calls recorded and posted here or somewhere for lulz. - wonderboom, on 12/25/2008, -0/+4someone should have proofread this piece... grammatically excruciating!
- ChefGroovy, on 12/24/2008, -1/+5Naw, we just think you've been pampered too much and can't handle criticism. The only thing we are afraid of is hurting your feelings. I went 20 years in the workforce I've never seen anyone CRY over something work related, in the last 2 years I've seen it happen at least a dozen times. Or if they don't cry, make a big deal out of telling them they suck at what they do.
Crying in public !?! WTF is that, how do you comfort that? Then I get in trouble for telling them shut the ***** up and get back to work. Like its my fault they don't have a grip on their emotions.
Don't hire anyone under 30 and don't have those kind of problems. - Spudster, on 12/25/2008, -0/+4I think the thespiff makes a good point. Facebook use at work for casual use is not bad if done reasonably, that is, during breaks and other such times where its ok to be on it.
If you're gonna have a good workforce, you have to balance the needs of the worker to be happy with the reality that they must be productive. I think many young employees are suspicious and disapproving of the suffocating corporate environments that permeate in the largest companies. I think the move by initially tech companies to implement "business casual" in the dress code is an indication of how corporate culture is shifting. No one wants to work in an unforgiving and cut throat environment. - tmyprod, on 12/24/2008, -3/+7I hate that term even more...
How about "Generation-If-You-Try-To-Give-Us-A-Stupid-Name-You'll-Get-Punched-In-The-Face" - Spudster, on 12/25/2008, -0/+4If you look at the price of housing and education nowadays, it's bloody hard to make it on your own when you're young without help of your parents.
If you want to be successful, you have to go to school now and get at least a few years of post secondary schooling. You can easily rack up student debts of 30-60 thousand dollars doing that. Hell, even Undergraduate degrees are becoming useless and Masters are increasingly required.
Factor that in with the ridiculous cost of housing now and I can comfortable say it is not easy being a young 20-something right now. - smokesteam, on 12/25/2008, -1/+4Best of luck to you. Running your own business brings you the joy of attracting and keeping clients, preferably ones that actually pay their bills, managing your employees (some of whom will be useless no matter how much time you spend helping them), filing paperwork with the government (or paying an accountant/HR service to do it), dealing with customer complaints and then the fun part, actually doing the work you love. Somewhere in all that you might want to make time for loved ones or kids. Statistically most small businesses fail within the first 24 months and the ones that last longer many of the founders end up divorced.
Not to try and crush your spirits or anything, I hope you succeed at whatever you choose to do. Dont think its going to be a cake walk however. - smokesteam, on 12/25/2008, -0/+3Sad isnt it? There really are alot of clever people coming into the workforce, the problem is that most of em have a sense of entitlement the size of Texas and have not yet learned that they are paid to work, not fool around and that "accommodating their emotional needs" is not part of the compensation package.
- Wargala, on 12/24/2008, -1/+4Never thought about recording them since I was dumbfounded that they called to begin with. :)
- recruz, on 12/24/2008, -0/+3i'm curious ... how does your company utilize it for business? (given that you aren't using it as a marketing tool)
- bouldertrex86, on 12/25/2008, -0/+3We may be able to multitask and do things our own way, but compared to the past generation we're still a bit too lazy.
- Redge, on 12/25/2008, -0/+3Nah, we're not lazy. We are just not willing to sacrifice everything for our work. That's different.
- andreusboy, on 12/24/2008, -0/+3"Bah, be honest here. The real reason you love fresh grads is that they're all desperate for work and are happy for any peanuts you write down on their checks every 2 weeks."
The good thing about their attitude is that if they are given the oportunity to be productive and recive a deserved compensation for their efforts they will be even more productive if not they wont last much and take their talent elsewhere where is needed and apreciated. They are certanly not afraid of job insecurity rather they see it as a market of supply and demand where (even thou very few ppl realize this) is more about who has talent than who is the better employer.
The mentality that the fruits of labor comes from managers and administrators will be pretty much dead. If anything they are mere decision makers and enablers for their talent to be productive. - Ravatar, on 12/24/2008, -1/+4It sounds like you want sheep, similar to those retired folks begging their masters to keep throwing those ever-dwindling pension pennies their way. I grew up in a manufacturing town (world HQ of Caterpillar) and I've seen first-hand what the lifestyle of loyalty and thankless hard work gets you (hint: nothing).
Why would I work hard for you when I can work hard for myself and take a much greater slice of the pie? THAT'S the thought process of millennials. - jimmies, on 12/24/2008, -11/+14Hooray for offensive generalizations!
- hiPpymIck, on 12/24/2008, -1/+4 yeah i think thats true - its been around since forever
older generations *always* claim the younger one has had it too easy or is lazy etc
i think maybe theyre unreasonably afraid cos they might have more energy are more up to date etc
but - in the end - everyone ends up getting along fairly reasonably most of the time
in my experience anyway - thespiff, on 12/25/2008, -1/+4Actually, if you behave in real life at all like this example, I think I prefer the old news.
- Dronez, on 12/24/2008, -3/+6Way to generalize an entire generation there, MrMod.
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