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- DangerCollie, on 07/01/2009, -6/+45The Republican strategy in Iraq comes full circle.
Spend trillions of dollars in collective debt our grandchildren will be paying off.
Waste thousands of lives, and tens of thousands maimed and wounded.
Trash our reputation and act like total dickweeds on the world stage.
Hand over the oil fields to the Chinese.
Brilliant. - kingofinternet, on 07/01/2009, -2/+31well, it's only fair, they helped finance the war.
- Aliwalla, on 07/01/2009, -1/+27Wait... American soldiers drying for Chinese interests? that's not how imperialism is supposed to work.
- borez, on 07/01/2009, -5/+29So the Americans and the British do all the work, then the Chinese waltz in and pick up the spoils. Great.
- inactive, on 06/30/2009, -2/+26This worked out well for the US
- Railz, on 07/01/2009, -0/+21Pretty sure its already been decided who is getting what under the books.
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 07/01/2009, -0/+20Worst imperial colony ever.
- protogenxl, on 07/01/2009, -0/+18China will grow larger.
- kingofinternet, on 07/01/2009, -1/+18you forgot poland.
- nirav72, on 07/01/2009, -1/+18No but, think of China as the bank that issued us the credit card that we used to finance the invasion of iraq.
- Waiting2awake, on 07/01/2009, -1/+17Sure did for the corporation of the US. The people of the US not so much, but they were never really part of the plan once they were snowed into thinking Saddam was responsible for 911.
- danydral, on 07/01/2009, -2/+15Don't you F**** act retarted by saying why US is letting china to bid. US don;t own Iraq. it is an independent country and can make it own decisions.
- shiddysmurf, on 07/01/2009, -0/+10I have big plans!
- degol, on 07/01/2009, -0/+10i love the way people feel that america is entitled to the oil.
- Skywise, on 07/01/2009, -1/+11Nothing like watching Diggers whine that Iraq is its own sovereignity back...
- ninjaturtles1, on 07/01/2009, -0/+9I think he means government debt
- danydral, on 07/01/2009, -1/+9They never asked to free them from anyone at the first place. so the talk abt any money is not relevant here.
- alx1507, on 07/01/2009, -1/+8America doesn't care that much about who gets the oil, as long as the oil is being traded in US Dollars. In 2000, Iraq was planning on trading oil in Euro's (Iran and Venezuela had already started to). OPEC (Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries) was about to change the official currency for petroleum trading to the Euro if Iraq switched away from USD. And well, a year later ***** happened 2001, and here we are today.
EDIT: just for those unaware, since 1971 the official currency for trading oil has been the USD. No country could sell or trade oil without investing in the USD. - Mship, on 07/01/2009, -0/+6So are you saying that you want the US to start a war with China?
- vapn420, on 07/01/2009, -1/+7naive? or stupid? think of the money spent in the war as an investment in oil.
- borez, on 07/01/2009, -0/+6Oh yeah and the rest of the countries involved. My bad.
- danydral, on 07/01/2009, -0/+6you are financing the reconstruction because you ane the one who destroyed it at the first place,
- Mship, on 07/01/2009, -0/+6So what we should just stop our pursuit of energy independence with green tech simple because China is going to be replacing us as the top polluter?
And very nice of you to place all people on the left as a mob. Very intelligent. - Satualanus69, on 07/01/2009, -0/+5what was the war for then WMD's & Nuclear Weapons? Why did Haliburton conveniently move right in to exploit our soldiers and the oil fields?
- vapn420, on 07/01/2009, -2/+7why can't we let the chinese have oil in iraq? It's not like they are getting it for free... they are going to bid on it like all the other countries looking to leech off iraq's oil. keep in mind, this is being conducted by the new iraqi government and being overseen by the iraqi oil minister... not someone from our government
- BotchaMcCoola, on 07/01/2009, -0/+4Every time The US screws up China gets stronger and farther ahead (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, ...).
- sTiKyt, on 07/01/2009, -0/+4Wtf are you talking about they're still paying for it, it's obvious who's getting screwed in this deal.
- vapn420, on 07/01/2009, -0/+4the iraqi government is profiting off of selling these oil fields.
- dippyskoodlez, on 07/01/2009, -0/+3How about they can have afghanistan?
deal? - SpinningHead, on 07/01/2009, -2/+5This is what happens when we elect a CEO to run the country who was never good at business.
- nirav72, on 07/01/2009, -1/+3You bastards!!! we were here first!
- alx1507, on 07/01/2009, -0/+2http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-526764086 ...
He explains it better than I ever could.
Enjoy :)
Edit: I don't know why you're being downvoted, you have legitimate questions. - lgarcia80, on 07/01/2009, -0/+2 We helped fund the original iraq genocide, and if I'm not mistaken, i believe we have lavish homes and statues for our politicians too...but I guess that's cool because we're better.
- SpinningHead, on 07/01/2009, -0/+2Oh I was referring to borrowing money to invade Iraq so the Chinese could get the oil and our debt.
- BossKey, on 07/01/2009, -0/+2This is how the warmongers on the Right will convince us that it wasn't imperialism at all: We spent billions of dollars and thousands of lives fighting a war and the Chinese get the oil. Clearly our motives were about freedom, not oil, and so was a morally justified war, right?
- dirtycanucker, on 07/01/2009, -5/+7Maybe this is the way the Chinese will collect on the trillions upon trillions of dollars that the USA will N-E-V-E-R be able to make good on.
- inactive, on 07/01/2009, -0/+2Can I bid on the Afghan fields? Don't worry I'm not talking about oil fields.
- borez, on 07/01/2009, -0/+2@ninjaturtles1: I know what he means, but China has been buying up assets, real estate, art, antiquities, resources etc. by the absolute ***** bucket load, and not just from America.
Here's a few to ponder on:
# Feb.10, 2009: China buys Oz Minerals, the world's second largest zinc miner for $1.7 billion.
# Feb. 12, 2009: China buys $20 billion worth of Rio Tinto, one of the three largest iron ore producers, giving it the potential to raise its stake to 19%.
# Feb. 24. 2009: China buys 16% of Fortescue Metals an Australian iron ore company.
# April 1, 2009 China buys $46 million worth of Terramin Australia's lead and zinc supplies in Algeria.
# April 15, 2009: China buy 51% of Ontario's Liberty Mines: a nickel producer. - inactive, on 07/01/2009, -2/+4The Chinese might as well get started in Iraq. If the Cap & Trade goes through, we'll be buying our refined gas from China anyway.
- alx1507, on 07/01/2009, -0/+2"Baghdad this week insisted on and received UN approval to sell oil through the oil-for-food program for euros only after 6 November. "
-November 1st, 2000
Source: http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1095057.html - yardie, on 07/01/2009, -0/+2Pollution has a more immediate local impact than a long view international one. If China is going to burn barrel loads of oil I'm sure they're working on a method to contain it. That ***** doesn't float away. It's straight from the tailpipe and into your nostrils.
- MrCocktoasten, on 07/01/2009, -1/+3Not all countries should be free, or be assign the "Democracy for all" model. What I am trying to say is, China must have control over its 1 bil+ people, otherwise all hell would break loose; and many Chinese agree with this (and not because they would be shot if they didn't agree!).
Other examples include Iraq and Afghanistan, in which only 100yrs ago consisted of nomadic peoples and warring tribes. You will never settle these people by forcing them into a democracy. I guess I am tired of seeing the US insist on the ideology of democracy to countries which obviously do not have the cultural structure nor the natural resources to support it. - damack, on 07/01/2009, -0/+2Well said but keep in mind the Chinese financed the war all the way by buying up government debt.
The Chinese have poured trillions into the American economy over these last few years so it's not hard to see this little deal being made somewhere down the line to keep the Chinese happy. - ChristmasPoo, on 07/01/2009, -0/+2I thought it was for 'Nucular' weapons or maybe you "misunderestimate" the real reason, after no weapons of mass destruction was found, was because of terrorists threats. I give up, I don't know why we went there.
But I thought when we first invaded we would be getting free gas. - cgiupload, on 07/01/2009, -0/+1Upgrade completed!
- Exhibitionist, on 07/01/2009, -0/+1Clearly you're not a fan of reading, because if you were you'd have read that the figure was not due to murders committed by the US military in 2003 alone, but the number caused by US-backed sanctions against Iraq since the early 90s along with the post-invasion figures.
Now you might not believe that the US is to blame for the deaths caused by those sanctions, but if I were an Iraqi I sure as ***** would. - TheSpook, on 07/01/2009, -0/+1@danydral - Is this how most Iraqi's feel, that we did them more harm than good? If so, I can understand why they don't want to give us a deal. Otherwise...
- originaldna, on 07/01/2009, -0/+1GO CHINA!!!
- ComeOnNowReally, on 07/01/2009, -0/+1Hey I'm not saying it's all his fault but lets not go around blaming Bush for it all either, they both have their hand on the wheel of this train wreck. One took a couple years, the other took a couple of months.
And still...thought this was a war for oil?
How the Chinesse getting it??? - hasslinthehoff, on 07/01/2009, -0/+1Only if China forgives our debt and we can once again be the Land of the Free.
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