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- Shinola, on 10/13/2009, -4/+35FTA: "The ad compares California's legislators to monkeys, and the state budget to flying pigs."
I think Nevada is spot on. They're housing situation isn't much better, though. - brad3378, on 10/13/2009, -1/+26Compared to most states,
Both California and Nevada are getting screwed on the return
of their Federal tax dollars for every dollar spent on federal taxes.
According to 2005 data, (the newest available),
California only receives 78 cents back in federal spending for every tax dollar spent.
Nevada only receives 65 cents back (ranking 49th in the country)
http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22685.h ...
California & Nevada are facing the same problems - mainly due to the housing bust.
They should be focusing their efforts on getting more federal dollars from the hypocritical "small government" republican states such as Virginia that are leading the gravy train of pork spending. - mwtapp, on 10/13/2009, -1/+19A war between the states? I thought that was the P.C. name for the civil war.
- wbrns, on 10/13/2009, -4/+18Why is it Cali is always in the middle of stuff like this? Must be "turnabout is fair play" after stealing all of Colorado's water.
- brad3378, on 10/13/2009, -2/+13Las Vegas has the worst home equity numbers in the country.
Even as somebody from Detroit, this article blows my mind:
http://washington.bizjournals.com/washington/stori ...
67% of all homeowners in Las Vegas owe more for their homes than what they could sell them for! These are the kinds of numbers that lead otherwise honest people to burn down their own homes in desperation for the insurance money. Hopefully both Nevada and California will soon find a solution to their housing crisis before the problem feeds on itself. I'm not convinced that this "dog eat dog" ad campaign is helping out either state though. - Kent4jmj, on 10/13/2009, -1/+11Free Markets tend to give folks a reality check. Course what goes around comes around. Nevada has opened the door being critiqued for how it does business as a state. Sounds good to me.
- PeppermintPig, on 10/13/2009, -2/+12"But don't think for a minute there is any major exodus of business from California."
Not so much an exodus of jobs as it is an exodus of workers which have been leaving over the last 15 years on account of the ridiculous increased costs of living. - KingGorilla, on 10/13/2009, -2/+11Disregard that. I pleasure men for money! Also I live in a van down by the river!
-Pie - absurdist, on 10/13/2009, -8/+16Laughable.
I remember the Midwest launching a similar campaign a few years back. A few businesses relocated. The gap they left was filled by someone else, and the world's 8th largest economy kept chugging along. Face it, guys. Travel the world. Everyone has heard of California. Everyone wants to come here. No one has even heard of Nevada or Kansas or most of the rest of the states individually. The state may be having financial problems - think NYC in the 70s. But don't think for a minute there is any major exodus of business from California. - Godpigeon, on 10/13/2009, -0/+8over the last 3 years at least.. the only reason California has not shrunk is because of foreigners moving in. We've had negative flow of people that were born/grew up in California or other states.
- PakoBedejo, on 10/13/2009, -1/+8Just as soon as you give Ohio back all of it's airplanes...
WTF kinda point of view do you have there anyhow? - inactive, on 10/14/2009, -0/+7Nevada: Our hookers speak English!
- WhiskeyLemur, on 10/13/2009, -5/+11"THEIR." The word you're looking for is "THEIR." Goddamnit, how fraking hard can it be????
THEIR: belonging to them
THEY ARE: contraction of "they are"
THERE: indicator of location.
Damn. I do apologize for that, but - just damn.
(And if you're talking about "Nevada," it should be " ***Its*** housing situation isn't much better," since Nevada is a single entity - but let's work on simple spelling before we move on to subject-verb agreement.) - doctechnical, on 10/13/2009, -0/+6Perhaps California should secede, then.
- johnwayne1, on 10/13/2009, -5/+11If the truth hurts.........
- tsotha, on 10/13/2009, -0/+6I live in California. The state is a terrible, terrible place to do business. Our legislature has been treating businesses and wealthy people like cows to be milked for at least a decade or so, and it still managed to put the mother of all holes in the state budget, so taxes are destined to go up quite sharply. It's no wonder businesses are leaving, and it's no wonder other states consider California a good place to poach them.
- d3dm, on 10/14/2009, -0/+6Better ask Mexico first.
- PeppermintPig, on 10/13/2009, -1/+6Agreed, lets see which state can compete with Nevada as being the most economically free place to live in the US. Perhaps Idaho can get in on the action.
- EatingPie, on 10/13/2009, -9/+14My office overlooks the ocean, and it's less than a mile from my local surf spot. Yeah, I pay more money. There's actually a reason!
-Pie - darkism, on 10/13/2009, -6/+11This is awesome. I love Nevada. No personal tax, no corporate tax, 24-hour alcohol sales, legal gambling and prostitution, beautiful weather and landscape - it's basically a libertarian wonderland.
- JUSTINS13, on 10/13/2009, -2/+7THEY'RE: contraction of "they are"
- PeppermintPig, on 10/14/2009, -0/+5You're right, they might be so hot if everyone else had more freedom, but there would still be more room for improvement. There's always room for improvement, unfortunately politics doesn't much allow for diversity of solutions.
- Feckinmik, on 10/13/2009, -2/+6Meh. The weather is alright. Way too hot in the summer though.
- Duncan3, on 10/14/2009, -2/+6To be fair, California has been a horrifically stupid place to run a business for a very long time. Beside all of the taxes on the business and employees, and the cost of living, and all the restrictions... you can hire twice the number of workers, with a better quality of life elsewhere in the US. If you go overseas it's more then twice.
Look at it this way, if you're living right at the poverty line in California barely able to survive, moving to Nevada is like getting a $5K check every year - and that's just from the state taxes! For people actually surviving here it's more like an extra 20K in your pocket - and that's before realizing that housing/rent costs less then half as much.
California is just too badly run and too expensive to compete in the global marketplace, things HAVE to change. - Nairebis, on 10/13/2009, -1/+5It's beautiful landscape if you like desert. Granted, the Lake Tahoe area is beautiful, but it's still high desert.
- argoff, on 10/13/2009, -1/+4>"They should be focusing their efforts on getting more federal dollars from the hypocritical "small government" republican states such as Virginia that are leading the gravy train of pork spending."
You don't get it. It takes more money to pacify people who don't believe in big government than those that do, so the bureaucrats need to pay out more of their cut off the top. That's why the conservative states generally get more responsive services and more money. (even during democratic control)
The notion that government takes money for the poor and to serve is a wet dream. They take it for themselves and their cronies, and then toss a bone to everyone else to pacify them. Let them eat cake! - djm19, on 10/14/2009, -0/+3Speaking as a life-long Californian, I can attest that a lot of Californians say "Cali"
- MrSteamTank, on 10/14/2009, -0/+3Nevada lives on the "illegalities" of other states. Gambling, prostitution, etc.
It's kind of like Amsterdam. The only reason it's a tourist hub is because of repressive policies from neighbouring countries and cities.
Nevada has played it smart and stood out from all the other boring midwest states(no offense). I mean who talks about going to New Mexico, Utah, or Wyoming for a fun vacation? - Barackalypse, on 10/13/2009, -2/+5Lots of people in Florida can claim the same thing, they pay less tax for the privilege, and their Disney theme park is way bigger.
- Barackalypse, on 10/13/2009, -1/+4Good, maybe competition will force California and other bloated bureaucratic tax hell States to be more business friendly or see its job base erode.
- inactive, on 10/13/2009, -0/+3This has been the case in New York too since Dewitt Clinton was in charge -- it's the way the big boys roll.
- SirCharge, on 10/14/2009, -1/+4http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ct-council8- ...
"California's share of U.S. feature film production dropped to 31% in 2008 from 66% in 2003, according to the California Film Commission, a state agency that coordinates film permitting in the state. That's largely because of a falloff in the Los Angeles area, where feature filming in 2008 was nearly half what it was at its peak in 1996.
The film industry has, mostly, fled California in spite of the fact that the big studios are all located in Cali and it is probably the state's most famous industry.
California is notorious for being a bad business environment with constantly changing regulations, high living expenses and obscene tax levels. It still has the advantage that it has the most comfortable year round weather, large population density and is the traditional home base of a huge number of major corporations, but as long as the state legislature remains bat-***** crazy corporations are going to find reasons to leave. - govsucks, on 10/14/2009, -1/+4HAH, welcome to the real world collectivists. No more fantasy hero role playing when you have no more people to rob for your ideals.
Come to Nevada, we won't terminate what you struggle to create.
If Nevada was smart they would offer tax incentives to california businesses that move to Arizona. I mean, they're pussy liberals, what are they gonna do? Send you a strongly worded letter? - jettam1, on 10/14/2009, -1/+4The truth really does hurt doesn't it California. Look at all of the companies that have set up shop in the Reno and Las Vegas. Strategically positioned to carry their goods into the country of California. That is exactly what I would do also. The people out there still need goods and services, but people are tired of carrying for all of the illegals. They are the crazies that make laws that even they can't and don't abide by. If they and we in the rest of the country don't put politicians into office that really care about the people then the country will be gone in a very short period of time. Laugh if you want to but in my very short 53 years this country has crumbled and with the new accelerated pace that we are on now it will not be a place to live in just a few short years.
- jsuther, on 10/14/2009, -0/+3Sounds like something some douche from California would say
- BDJC, on 10/13/2009, -2/+4To be technical, "THEY ARE" is the same as "they are" - just a little louder. "They're" is a contraction of "they are".
- KMye, on 10/13/2009, -2/+4damn, dude, forget to take you're meds?
- techfuture33, on 10/13/2009, -2/+4If you've got it, flaunt it
- d3dm, on 10/14/2009, -1/+3And the politically correct name for the Civil War is the "War of Northern Aggression."
- NorthMass, on 10/13/2009, -14/+16Well Nevada is one of the most free states economically, while California is probably the most socialist state. California should practice Nevada's economic ideas, and Nevada should practice California's ideas on medical weed.
- rebrad, on 10/14/2009, -2/+4The truth hurts. Socialism is like a vampire. It sucks you dry.
- Nick519, on 10/14/2009, -0/+2there is WAAAY more to nevada than las vegas. : P
- Kent4jmj, on 10/14/2009, -0/+2If we can get rid of Baucus Montana might be in the running. Course the Fed intervention over State sovereignty concerning timber and mining seems to be the worst offender near as I can tell at this point.
- aurorous, on 10/14/2009, -0/+2You have a constant flow of mostly poor uneducated immigrants who depend on California's large social safety net. At the same time the upper class and rich business owners and their middle class employees are leaving the state, these are the people who finance the health and education of these large immigrant populations. We're already past the point we're California could take care of all it's poor people but no will admit it and instead they're sinking deeper in debt waiting for money to magically appear and solve all they problems.
Health, Education, and all social services are gonna continue to deteriorate over the next few years. Eventually becoming so bad Mexican immigrants (both legal and illegal) will no longer see California as a better alternative. But by then there will already be tens of millions of uneducated poor people and no money to take care of them.
I've said it before and I'm saying it now. Within a generation California will be to Brown people what West Virginia is to White people. - Nairebis, on 10/14/2009, -0/+2Dunno about New Mexico, but people vacation in Utah all the time for the skiing. As for Wyoming, it's a good place if you want to do the "cowboy Western vacation".
- djm19, on 10/14/2009, -0/+2Speaking as a life-long Angelino, I can attest that a lot of Angelinos say Cali...though mostly in text...not speech.
- Nick519, on 10/14/2009, -0/+1you're forgetting there's no humidity. and up north, it's cooler than in the southern part of the state.
- Ajajadude, on 10/14/2009, -0/+1I've lived in both states. I'll take Florida: better beaches, less traffic, less smog, less money (which in turn means less stuck up rich people), lower cost of living...I could go on.
- shnarf, on 10/14/2009, -0/+1california should just be walled off and left to their own devices.
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