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- AntBing, on 10/12/2007, -11/+106I kinda like harassing them when they call. I let them say the whole speech, I keep agreeing. Once they get to the end and ask for the money I tell them I just pooped my pants a little while trying to fart, and then hang up!
- GeneralFailure0, on 10/12/2007, -3/+53Because there isn't enough money in the world.
- H3LLSL337, on 10/12/2007, -2/+47I always tell telemarketers that they'll have to wait until my husband gets home because he makes all the decisions in the house. And btw, I'm a guy.
- Rosco, on 10/12/2007, -1/+36If this works for telemarketers, does it also work for unwanted faxes? I get about a dozen faxes every day in my office for vacation offers, finance. Some are made to look like inter-office correspondence. The last thing I would ever consider is financing a vacation with a company that is afraid to even show who they are, but attempt to look like it comes from within our company.
- Koray, on 10/12/2007, -1/+33Now why can't I do this for spam?
- snakesonasam, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25i now have a reason to look foward to the next call from a telemarketer
i just hope this works - mookiemookie, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Man, that guy is the definition of a folk hero. Keep fighting the good fight, Lammé!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Rosco, I'm 100% certain there are similar laws against faxes too, i dont have specifics, but it's definitely worth it to look into the laws if you're getting that many a day.
- GravyTrain6, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21you should probably read the article if you have a question like that. it specifically answers it.
- Indecision, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Um...
The summary here, "Every time you receive an unwanted call from a telemarketer, you are legally owed $500," is blatantly false. There's a laundry list of exceptions that leaves a lot of room for legitimate calls that you can't (successfully) sue for.
For example, if you're not on the Do Not Call list, and you haven't told the company to stop calling you, they haven't broken the TCPA. If you *are* on the DNC, but you've done business with the company in the past, there's an exemption. If the call is on behalf of a tax-exempt non-profit, they're exempt. If the call does not include an unsolicited advertisement, even if the call is commercial in nature, there's an exemption.
The summary severely understates this, making it seem like the mere act of the phone ringing is enough. There is work that *you* need to do first, and exemptions that apply, and if you ignore them you'll just be wasting your time. - DaveMN, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Forgive the comment abuse, but here is a direct link to the guy's site, complete with instructions:
http://killthecalls.com/ - Bobwise, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14But when a telemarketer calls me on my CELL PHONE after 10 at night, I have no sympathy for them. They KNOW they're annoying us.
- Indecision, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15You know, I worked in retail for several years, and in a restaurant before that. I'm very nice to folks in service-related positions as a consequence, as I know what it's like to be on the other side of the phone/counter.
But telemarketers? I make an exception for them. They've chosen a job whose chief function is to make phone calls they know are unwanted and annoying, to people they know are unlikely to want to receive them, in these people's homes during inconvenient times (typically focusing on the dinner hour). My phone exists for my convenience, not for your amusement, and if you knowingly and deliberately abuse that, you will not have my respect.
And don't give me crap about them having no other choice. I have a couple of friends who were unemployed for extended periods, and both of them turned down telemarketing positions on moral grounds (without prompting from me, mind you) despite being broke. - talmid, on 10/12/2007, -7/+18Anyone know if other countries have simillar laws? I know Australia recently introduce a do not call act but does it include any penalties?
- dustyshadow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1268k is enough to live like a king?? I must really be doing something wrong.
- MrSarcasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Why would I want to do that?..
- putnam, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15OH MAN THANKS FOR THE LINK WOW THIS BLOG IS AWESOME!
THANK GOD YOU COMMENTED - DaveMN, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10In AMERICA, it's illegal to call people on the do-not-call list. You do not have the right to make money by breaking the LAW.
- vuke69, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8DON'T THROW THOSE OUT!!!
There is a very strict federal law, and many state/local laws covering junk faxes. You can get anywhere from $5/page to $1500/fax.
From a quick google: http://www.keytlaw.com/faxes/junkfaxlaw.htm - Thuktun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@rosco
http://www.junkfax.org/ - vuke69, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8If you are on the federal Do-Not-Call list, and they call you anyways, they can get an $11,000 fine per incident. But I don't think you get that money, the FTC does.
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/alerts/alt107.htm - vuke69, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8^ UP TO $11,000 that is
- ZanCakes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@brizzad
I'll second that. I used to sell safety posters to major industrial companies over the phone and got great money on the commissions.
However, the amount of rejection wears you down.
And kings don't cry themselves to sleep.
... - Rosco, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9@dustyshadow
It all depends on where you live. 64k a year in places like New York, Chicago, Northern Michigan and California and you're living in a trailer park and driving a 1982 Chevy Citation. 64k a year in many of the southern states and some northern ones like Indiana and you're living in a luxury condo and driving a new Accord or a nice used Lexus. - intellium, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9anyone know how to prove the unwanted calls were made? dont we have to record the message?
- zilentbob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Great idea!
Wonder if we can do this in Canada...
They always call during dinner (bad), after dinner when kids are going to bed (worse) and after that (worst) when you're trying to relax after along day of work! - venicerocco, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7No. You chose to see ads by watching TV, reading a magazine, surfing the net. You do not chose to receive pestering calls interupting your life.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Holy *****, the destruction of telemarketers!
- noamsml, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6If I had $500 for every spam email sent to me, I'd be making $6 million a year and upwards.
- venicerocco, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Uh, since when is spending 8 hours a day in a dull cublicle harassing people making "LIVING LIKE A KING"?
- Thuktun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Because Congress refused to extend the protections against junk faxes to email. You can see how well that's worked for us.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Did you even RTFA? It took him 10-20 minutes to file. And then barely any time in court to get a few grand. If that isn't enough for you, can you hire me where you work?
- Kershek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I'm on the DNC, but recently, I've been getting calls from "research firms" that state blatantly that they don't have to follow the DNC because they want me to answer a survey. I still say they are soliciting me for answers to their surveys and that I don't want solicitation calls. I'm getting sick of these calls. Do we now need a DNC list for survey people?
- 98acura, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9these people are the scum of the earth... only one notch above email spammers.. They call me, they get whatever i feel like throwing at them...
Telemarketers get no sympathy.. - ravend, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Why would you want to have a job which for the most part consists of being told to ***** off all day long?
- Becky65, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3By law, if you recieve a telemarketing call after 9 PM (your time) or before either 8 or 9 AM (I'm not sure but I think it is 8 AM) then that company whom the telemarketer is representing owes you $500. Also, if you recieve calls from telemarketers about a company, contact that company and demand that they send a letter to you. The letter would state that they will no longer contact you for telemarketing purposes. You sign the letter and return it and once you have done that - if you recieve a call that company owes you money. Of course if you join the No Dot Call listing, anyone who calls (and you were not already doing business with) has just set themselves up for a major payout to you. The best thing - as the aritcle shows - is that you do not have to have a lawyer to sue. Careful research on your part means you can do the work yourself. And win.
- Arju, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4There are decent people who simply don't have other means to earn a living and are stuck in such a job. Personally I just tell them that I am not interested and ask that they remove me from their call list.
The only really annoying telemarketers are those who send out faxes. I'd like to leave my fax machine on without these ***** wasting my ink. (stupid inkjet multifunction machine) - tdogg241, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I dunno, but I sure hope you guys used the right cover. Or did you not get that memo?
- profOblivion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You suck so much you do not even know.
- 5hop4orce, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Consumers who pursue a small claims case after frustrating fights with their cable provider, cell phone company or a retail electronics store are in for a rude awakening, he said. In almost all those situations, they long ago waived their right to sue by agreeing to mandatory binding arbitration for disputes.
"Don't remember doing that? Well, you did, virtually any time you signed a contract with a service provider, used your credit card or even opened a shrink-wrapped piece of software you purchased at an electronics store. Binding arbitration agreements are everywhere, and they virtually eliminate a consumers' ability to bring small claims court cases."
Well, they don't eliminate your ability to throw a ***** bomb.
Be more violent. Make corporations fear the people. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I'm curious as well. Why digg him down for a question?
- JRJ0710296, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2http://howtoprankatelemarketer.ytmnd.com/
most of you have probably seen this...but its a good one ;) - rectangle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"I know Australia recently introduce a do not call act but does it include any penalties?"
Of course it includes penalties. Wouldn't be of much use without them now would it? According to: http://www.minister.dcita.gov.au/media/media_releases/do_not_call_register_legislation_introduced
"ACMA will be responsible for the enforcement of the legislation and a range of penalties will be available depending on the nature of the breach. ACMA will be able to issue formal warnings or infringement notices or commence court proceedings. The Courts will be able to impose fines ranging from $1,100 to $1.1 million." - bittdude, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I have no sympathy for these *****. They are just doing their job, yes, but there are so many ***** jobs available out there that there is no reason for them to pick this job OR they could easily get a different job. They strive on annoyance, in fact I would have more respect for them if they were handing me a parking ticket. At least in that situation they usually have a reason for what they are doing.
- AussieScribe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You can obtain a copy of Australia's "Do Not Call Register Act 2006" at the following address. It is expected to come into effect around May of this year:
http://tinyurl.com/ysf46z (comlaw.gov.au) - 5hop4orce, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You should also hook it up to a tape recorder so you'll have evidence against anyone making abusive calls.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2it's one thing to spend all the effort, paperwork, etc to get a judgment against them, it's quite another to actually collect anything. this isn't as easy as it sounds. might be good for someone with decent intelligence and no job, but a waste of time for someone who works full-time.
- Liam76, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I have been thinking about getting a landline for some time, and this has made me decide to go for it.
Even if I don't get to sue anyone keeping a journal of calls and hoping for a repeat offender will turn an otherwise annoying telemarketing call into a lottery ticket. - cmilki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I know there's a similar law in India now. Telemarketers cannot call you after April 1 2007. Everytime they do, they're fined Rs. 5000 (Roughly $125) for every call (and a parallel amount needs to be paid to the receiver "To compensate for lost time") or something like that.
- Rosco, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@Thuktun
I just forwarded that to our accounting team, hopefully they will look into it. -
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