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- 15step, on 11/03/2009, -2/+274Funny how little correspondence there is between the budget allotted to and the efficiency of the program.
- Manchowder, on 11/03/2009, -8/+236Notice that the USA tops the world in health care spending by the GOV? But we don't have national health care. Something is deeply wrong with health care.
- quirkopatra, on 11/03/2009, -5/+121Everyone I talk to in education says the upper bureaucracy is consuming the resources.
- Canadian007, on 11/03/2009, -14/+119Because you guys have a middleman (insurance companies) who take a chunk of your money whereas other countries get their health-care directly from the distributor (government). There's no need for middlemen, it eliminates efficiency and value. I truly hope you guys get the public option.
- Atario, on 11/02/2009, -3/+99Is MAP some acronym I'm not parsing properly?
- Freshjive787, on 11/03/2009, -2/+87oh hey new zeland, we almost forgot you were over there...
- elliotys, on 11/03/2009, -15/+100Dude. . . seriously wtf are you talking about? Teachers from "40 years ago"? My dads history teacher in the 60's was a member of the John Birch society. We probably shouldn't have desegregated schools huh? Time to go back on your meds. . .dude.
- manbeef, on 11/03/2009, -6/+76Wow. What's up with the UAE? They must have some sort of ultra-badass army that no one knows about.
Something's bogus here, their military spending was 3.1% of their GDP in 2005. - inactive, on 11/02/2009, -85/+151Gee...a lot of the countries that have students who excel at math, science spend LESS on education than the USA. Hummmmm wonder if it is the (lack of) education they are receiving in the USA.
Too little on the 3 R's, and more on political correctness. Too little on discipline, and more on teaching other BS. Perhaps if we got rid of the school boards, the teachers unions and put teachers that were more like they were 40 years ago, the violence in schools, and other factors would change. Then perhaps we could have a conversation with teenagers that didn't have the word "dude" or "you know" or "whatever" as every third or fourth word. - rkenned, on 11/03/2009, -1/+57This isn't % of gdp...its % of government budget. Therefore, if the sole purpose of the government is national defense and everything else is privatized, it would appear as a high percentage even though they don't actually spend very much on it. However, that's just a guess as to why their Military spending looks so high.
- Chainheart2, on 11/03/2009, -5/+48"Parents, schools, and communities need to make the decisions on what our children are learning"
Yeah, that sounds good and just until you realize that almost half the schools in the USA would stop teaching evolution and the Big Bang theory - dawnraid101, on 11/03/2009, -1/+44Hi?
- mfc5200, on 11/03/2009, -6/+46I have a middle man between me and the farmers. Its called the supermarket, I'm totally cool with it. I don't want to talk about healthcare, just saying that middleman aren't always bad.
- rchargel, on 11/03/2009, -1/+39This is true. Do you know what a school board president makes. Anywhere from $150,000 - $350,000. Now tell me what they do.
That said, the real problem in education isn't the teachers or even the board. It's the parents. Teaching hasn't really changed, but parents are less willing to accept that their little Johnny is failing math, so they put pressure on the administration, who then puts pressure on the teachers to change the grade. So rather than going to their little Johnny and asking him WTF and do you need a tutor, instead it's "this is going to hurt little Johnny's chances of getting into college, the school should fire this bitch." - amoeba, on 11/03/2009, -0/+37gweetings fellow earthling
- ceraphin, on 11/03/2009, -8/+45How come we spend so much on healthcare yet other countries seem to do better there
- theDashRendar, on 11/03/2009, -5/+39"Too little on discipline"
I am going to have to ask that you clarify your position - are you simply stating that teachers need to be firmer in adhering to the required course material?, more detentions?, or are you suggesting some sort of barbaric return to corporal punishment?
One of the most meaningful things you could do to improve education would be to ensure that it is secular, and that science is taught properly (by science teachers). Another thing would be for you, yourself, to encourage a pro-science, pro-math environment for your children (and those in your neighborhood) by learning more about those subjects yourself, so you can have detailed discussions about math and science with your kids.
Also, please explain what was so great about teachers 40 years ago? The majority of Americans are scientific illiterates that think evolution is false, the universe is several thousand years old, dont understand what radiation is, and some still think the sun revolves around the earth. Teachers from 40 years ago seem to have failed terribly... - deathandtaverns, on 11/03/2009, -1/+31Ooo I can play this game too. I blame it on the parents not giving a rats ass about their children's education for the following reasons:
1. Adults have a longer work week in the US than people in Europe so they have less tome to devote to raising their children.
2. Our consumer culture has put emphasis on personal short term gain over what is best in the long run.
3. There is less support for families in the poorest parts of the country making education less effective.
4. There is little short term profit in the education of your children.
5. uhhhh rabble rabble rabble unions - mal7798, on 11/03/2009, -3/+30There needs to be more money spent on education in the country where this map was made--there is no country in South America called "Columbia". It's COLOMBIA!
- bradleyland, on 11/03/2009, -6/+32How dare you suggest that spending more money is not a solution to the problem!
- bjr990, on 11/03/2009, -4/+29People will be able to afford to go to the hospital even if they lose their jobs?
- Dunpite, on 11/03/2009, -2/+23Dude...you know you forgot "like"........but whatever
- Manchowder, on 11/03/2009, -6/+26The problem is they only teach the 3 R's, and got rid of all the other stuff. No Child Left Behind guts a schools funding if their students don't do well enough on 3 R's standardized tests. All the politically correct stuff like, history, social studies, music, civics, got the axe to make room for more 3 R's standardized crap. Good luck making innovative, adaptive citizens when you only teach them to score points on a 3 subject test.
- rchargel, on 11/03/2009, -0/+17American's put very little emphasis on science and math. When I came to the United States, I went to the same high school that a previous Nobel Laureate had attended (it was in econ, not science, but still). Did the school even mention this, nope. Nobody cared, but the fact that Hubert Davis (who the ***** is that), an NBA player had gone there was a big deal. The school wouldn't shut up about Hubert Davis. The community didn't care about Math and Science, they cared about Basket Ball.
- Zuljin, on 11/03/2009, -6/+23Because that would be a horrible injustice afflicted on every kid born in Texas.
- Canadian007, on 11/03/2009, -1/+18@ MFC5200
You're right, I shouldn't have generalized all middlemen. My statement was to imply how wrong it is to treat healthcare as any other private enterprise like a supermarket or car dealership. But yes, you are correct mfc5200.
On a side note not directed at you I just feel that capitalizing healthcare has proven to be efficient for many and inefficient for some (tens of millions). This means, like other sectors of the economy, there are winners and there are losers. If someone thinks it's ok to have losers when it comes to healthcare, they should reevaluate their morals. The point is, you can't morally treat healthcare as any other private enterprise unless you're admittedly selfish and actually want to go to hell after you die. Again, that's just my opinion. - HotLeper, on 11/03/2009, -1/+17USA neighbors should spend close to nothing on military. Who in their right mind would dare to attack a USA neighbor?
- thisthatwhat, on 11/03/2009, -1/+16Something is funny here Americans spend more on health care than Canadians? Canadian health care is free. When you show up at an hospital in the US they expect you to show your credit card first. Is it some way to hide the extra spending on military?
- fack0, on 11/03/2009, -0/+14They spent more of their budget, but that doesn't mean they spent more on education than the United States.
- cruzlee, on 11/03/2009, -1/+15It's because they consider military spending education and "healthcare".
- verynegative, on 11/03/2009, -0/+13Yes.
- prankboy973, on 11/03/2009, -2/+15Props to Pakistan being the second highest in military and the lowest in both health and education...good thing all their money is being wisely used
- Samyaza, on 11/03/2009, -0/+13Actually, if you read the list correctly, it's 45.71% on Military, 8.7% on Health, and 22.5% on Education. That adds up to 76.91%.
The red bars are for Military, the green bars are for Health and the purple bars are for Education. I know it's confusing, what with all the numbers and colors at the same time.... - Gardimus, on 11/03/2009, -0/+13This only shows a % of total budget. Not per student or even per capita spending. As the nominal budget for a certain area increases, the % does not rise proportionally.
The graph is misleading. A better one would be percapita spending. - ygugsa295, on 11/03/2009, -13/+26It's time for those socialist communist fascists to let the private sector go about its business providing quality care to every pro-America American. Maverick.
/s - Abominable, on 11/03/2009, -0/+12It's interesting how the us pays more than canada for health care, yet does not have a public option. Where does the money go?
- jimfeet, on 11/03/2009, -0/+11These aren't percentage of GDP. They claim to be percentages of the country's federal BUDGET. Not a particular meaningful metric in my opinion. Percent of GDP would be better. Or better still would be spending per citizen.
- fragMasterFlash, on 11/03/2009, -2/+13Does that budget include the US Army corps of Engineers? Not all military spending is about pointing guns in peoples faces. Just ask anyone who lives in what used to be a flood plain.
- shayben, on 11/03/2009, -0/+11Marked Area Picture
- dezholling, on 11/03/2009, -1/+12Maximum a posteriori.
- MacBandit, on 11/03/2009, -0/+11by percentage.
- Stemnin, on 11/03/2009, -1/+12And the gov't doesn't subsidize any farming?
- DiggsOnlyJew, on 11/03/2009, -1/+11Also includes a lot of work done by NASA...
- willwooten, on 11/03/2009, -2/+12While this map may be pretty, the information it presents is pretty useless and misleading. It doesn't say whether or not it accounts for only the federal budget or if it is also taking into account state and local government budgets. Especially in the US, much of the money spent on education comes from state and county governments.
This map is way oversimplified and pretty meaningless. Dare I even label it propaganda? - DrDragun, on 11/03/2009, -1/+11The quality fallacy. Americans spend a retarded amount of money to cure relatively trivial ailments, or ailments that really aren't curable by getting excessive radiological scans (CT, MRI), taking exotic drugs which are in the expensive R&D phase, etc. This is because of 1) malpractice tort law driving up the cost of services and 2) hypochondriacs treating an insurance plan as an unlimited buffet to gorge on, which drives up the cost of insurance for everybody.
- CptBuck, on 11/03/2009, -1/+10What you really need is a copy of "Coherence for Ranters."
- Kaegro, on 11/03/2009, -4/+13riiiight.....do some research buddy.
- InactiveUser, on 11/03/2009, -1/+10As a shareholder of health care profits I believe the US system is perfect. How else could I put my kids through school at Yale, buy them their own apartment to live in and make donations to certain senators...
- Russelllucid, on 11/03/2009, -0/+9A Digg comment and two replies worthy of a t-shirt design if ever I saw them!
- Kaegro, on 11/03/2009, -1/+10no, no you don't.
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