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- Petrarch1603, on 10/12/2007, -4/+359$75 and you can't take pictures from the skywalk? what a ripoff.
- trghpy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+224*****, at least 75 bucks buys a nice dinner at the space needle...
The St. Louis arch is only like 10-15 bucks...
75 bucks will buy you an hour of flying lessons in a cesna... You can pay to fly around inside the canyon for the same amount.
Now that is a total rip off. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+106If you can crack their glass by dropping a camera, you really shouldn't walk on it
- wonderchemist, on 10/12/2007, -3/+96I can see the slogan now:
Visit Iowa: Not as Flat as You Think - Gir53457, on 10/12/2007, -5/+86For 75$ you can get enough weed to make you feel like you're flying.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+82I don't agree with people ever telling me not to take pictures or asking for extra fees to do so.
Saying no flash is ok -- that interferes with actors, religious services, and so on. Saying no publication/commercial use/redistribution is ok -- they may hold a copyright of things on their property. But I believe it is an inalienable right for me to take pictures for my own personal use. My human eyes already take pictures and send them to my brain, and a camera is simply an extension to my body. Whether I collect photons in my eye or in a silicon eye is irrelevant -- what's the difference? What defines a camera, anyway, that a human eye does not qualify? What if my jacket includes an embedded CCD? I'm just wearing my jacket, then! Now what if my head includes two cameras in it?
Even more so when there is no damn copyright. The grand canyon is nature. It's immoral to even try to copyright or withhold rights for people to do anything with it. - merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -3/+78"Capitalism is a BITCH."
Part of capitalism is people saying "Holy *****, these guys are charging way too much. This product is not worth the price charged. Oh, and they con you in to spending 3 times more than the advertised price".
You're right. Capitalism *is* gonna be a bitch... for the people who built this thing, once word gets out that it's a rip off. - SultanTravi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+76http://www.flickr.com/photos/77844686@N00/444355160/in/photostream/
Yeah, I know the floor is glass. But look at this thing. It doesn't even look as exciting as the concept art made it seem. - Cutkomp, on 10/12/2007, -10/+77I was just about to submit this one, saw you'd done so already. Hey if any of you folks were going to see that Skywalk trap, save your money and come to Iowa. Not only is it a heck of a lot cheaper but we are home to the Largest Frying Pan(Free) and have the birthplace of Captain Kirk(free). I've been to both and from the sound of things they are a much better value than the Skywalk. You want natural wonders? We have caves in Maquoketa, also free and lots of cool stuff to do along the Mississippi.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+64Damn scammers... We should take those indian's land. That'll teach them for screwing with the white man! Oh, wait, we already did? Ok then! :)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+58"Visit Iowa: Not as Flat as You Think"
Yes, it is. But it's not as flat as Nebraska. - aaaargh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+44Many articles mention $25 plus some unknown fees. I would suggest that the tribe deliberately omitted information, mislead, or failed to clarify to news organizations, or deliberately put off setting official prices, so that only the $25 was specifically mentioned during most of their major news coverage.
Also, if no sign was posted with the pricing prior to the $10 parking lot, until somebody verbally informs you after you've been waiting in line for a while, that too sounds like intentional deception.
http://www.grandcanyonskywalk.com/update.html
"Access to The Skywalk will run from dawn to dusk and will cost $25 per person in addition to the cost of a Grand Canyon West entrance package."
NY Times http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/03/04/travel/04transcanyon.html
"Tickets will cost $25 a person in addition to a Grand Canyon West entry fee."
LA Times http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-skywalk11feb11,0,6802248.story?coll=la-home-headlines
"The Skywalk will charge an admission fee of $25, Beattie said, adding that some of the financing will come from a private-sector partner."
BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6469941.stm
"Visitors will have to pay $25 (around £13) to use the gangway, on top of the fee for entering the national park."
ABC News http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2968337
"It is due to open on March 28 to tourists who will pay $25 each to tread their way around the glass arc, which is bolted to the lip of the plunging canyon."
CBS News http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/20/national/main2588241.shtml?source=RSSattr=CBSEveningNews_2588241
"For $25 plus other fees, up to 120 people at a time will be able to look down to the canyon floor 4,000 feet below, a vantage point more than twice as high as the world's tallest buildings."
USA Today http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-03-20-grand-canyon-skywalk_N.htm
"For $25 plus other fees, up to 120 people at a time will be able to look down to the canyon floor 4,000 feet below, a vantage point more than twice as high as the world's tallest buildings."
Arizona Republic http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0823grandcanyon23.html
"Visitors to the skywalk will pay $25 for a bird's-eye view of the Canyon. By comparison, the entrance to the national park's South Rim, about 200 miles by road to the east, is $20 per car."
CNN http://www.cnn.com/2007/TRAVEL/03/08/canyon.skywalk.ap/index.html
"The tribe will open it to the public later this month, charging $25 per person in addition to other entry fees."
MSNBC http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17712233/
"It'll cost at least $25 to go on the Skywalk."
Fernley (Nevada?) News http://www.fernleynews.com/Video/SkyWalk.html
"Access to The Skywalk will run from dawn to dusk and will cost $25 per person in addition to the cost of a Grand Canyon West entrance package." - fantasticFlan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+42Much as I love mindless underpants gnoming, this one doesn't work, step 3 is "charge $50 more per person".
- Ibox, on 10/12/2007, -3/+37***** deal hell they are getting twice as much money with ZERO investment... I'll take that deal anyday.
- djSyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -12/+441. Put giant glass diving board over Grand Canyon.
2. Advertise low, low $25 'admission' fee.
3. ?????
4. Profit! - mugdecoffee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+32But the tourists were cracking the glass with dropped cameras. But don't worry, its perfectly safe for little kids to jump up and down.
- EyewitBass, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25Hey that's 75 Jr Bacon Cheeseburgers
- Cutkomp, on 10/12/2007, -12/+35@petrarch1603
Yeah, keep it up buddy and we'll cut off your food supply. Oh wait, the gov't is already working on that. - djSyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22You should go to the Japan for a laugh then. For a people that love taking pictures so much, the entire country seems to have a giant 'no photos, please' sign on nearly every building, attraction and place of interest.
(I'm agreeing with you, btw - 'no photos' is absurd) - piratearggghhh, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24Hopefully this bad publicity will catch on with the mainstream media to expose this scam and get those greedy bastards to lower their prices or at least be up front about their prices.
- fpssledge, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19This is a huge ripoff. I remember about 8 years ago my father, brother, and myself went on a helicopter tour of the grand canyon. I personally don't remember too much, I threw up about 6 times (had some really bad food, and on top of that I heard helicopters can do that to ya easy). Anyways, I think it was like $125 per person to take the helicopter tour. Not only do you get the fly all around the desert and several parts of the grand canyon, but you get the ride in a helicopter. That cost/experience is way more worth it than walking around some glass suspended above the grand canyon. I mean, that's got to be quite the experience, but I would much prefer the helicopter ride (so long as I don't fill up every barf bag available)
- unfiction, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17The Skywalk is their property. They can stop people from bringing cameras into it. It might be a douche thing to do, but it's not illegal.
- praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -2/+17shh...step 3 is the secret!
- tghw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15As that "moron", I should make it clear that I understood that it was $25 plus a non-ridiculous entry fee from the opening press release: http://www.grandcanyonskywalk.com/update.html
I only linked to Wikipedia in the article because the official site is such a bloody, Flash-ridden mess. - djSyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20RTFA. He was charged the $25, then a $50 from the 'reservation' on top of it. The $50 is the point of contention.
Thank you, please drive forward. - stevieB, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Ahhh, the romance of Guano Point.
- MiDri, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16I need trinkets to remember things! TRINKETS! LOTS OF THEM! Thimbles, key chains, shot glasses I need them all to remember my breath taking experience...
- happymealz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14I think I'm going to build my own on the other side of the canyon and charge $20.
- Bmulley, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15They're* .....sigh
- SouthKP, on 10/12/2007, -1/+143. make her open the box
- djSyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17The pricing information is *not* clear on the website. It says the SkyWalk is $25, but doesn't talk about the 'extra' fee on top of that. The packages at your link are independent of both.
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13It's a stupid contract for both parties. The developers figured they scalped the Indians, but they left it open for the Indians to screw them over. Think about it, the Indians could raise the rate to $1 million dollars, effectively ruining the developers' investment, and the tribe isn't out anything. They wait the developers out and seize the property at auction. I doubt the Indians will do it, though, they obviously can't buy a competent advocate at any price.
- fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13No, you can't, and this is actually illegal. However, they'll keep the rule up until somebody calls them on it and takes them to court (for an injunctive order compelling them to drop the rule).
What they can prohibit:
Pictures *OF* the building, under various landmark IP laws that apply to landmarks or unique buildings
What they can't prohibit:
Pictures of the grand canyon, UNLESS the *TICKET* says you agree not to take pictures. If it's not on the ticket, you don't agree to it. Thus, this is probably on the ticket. - kavery, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Artist renderings:
http://limerex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/glass_bridge.jpg
http://www.pzg.biz/mail_grandcanyon_lg.jpg
Actual picture:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77844686@N00/444355160/in/photostream
That's Matrix Revolutions disappointing. - drjekelmrhyde, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12How long b4 someone jumps from it
- DietMountainDew, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Can you copyright the grand canyon?
- LonesomeFighter, on 10/12/2007, -8/+18@macmcrae
It's not really capitalism when it is a native american tribe. It more like guiltalism. They were given the nice land from the US for feeling sorry and it's not really a fair competing ground that capitalism offers. Also the natives don't pay taxes. - t4k3n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9$75 to kill ya self ?
seems a little steep.. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Wow... dugg down even though the comment was a genuine compliment to the poster, and even though I didn't include a single URL or blog. It's nice to know that offering a little goodwill and thanks here is encouraged... *cough*
- brbubba, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8>http://www.flickr.com/photos/77844686@N00/444355160/in/photostream/
>Yeah, I know the floor is glass. But look at this thing. It doesn't even look as exciting as the concept art made it seem.
I agree, compared to the concept photos that damn thing is just pathetic. I wonder if this is a case of the artists not talking to the engineers or the Indians being sold short. Aside from being at least twice as long in the sketches, it was also fully enclosed. - dirtmaster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9its on an Indian reservation, thats why.
- waterboy1628, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Tricksy Native Americans, they are.
- Gazpacho, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Well, the blogger said he was with his family. Assuming his family is made of four people that's $200 extra. The whole thing including fee to get on the reservation is around $310 if there are four people. That much money for temporary buildings, no cameras allowed, what sounds like long waits, a bus ride, and a buffet. ***** that. I'll only spend some money for gas and go geocaching to find some unexpected beauty.
- kimbermatic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7The whole reason this thing was built was for money. Most of the money will come from Europeans and not Americans if you have been amongst the summer crowds at the canyon you will know what I mean. With the weak dollar and 5 to 1 ratio of Europeans to Americans it isn't too hard to figure out. When I lived in AZ the canyon was ok, but go visit Sedona and many other great places in that state I really miss.
- Seph7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Why can't people just enjoy a natural wonder for what it is without the need for visitors centers and souvenir shops. When things get commercialized like this it takes something away from the real experience.
- Sambone67, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6or build the place up to justify the price.
- zonk3r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8What I find funny is people talking about copyright law and public property when they forget they are on an Indian reservation. USA laws don't apply (there are a few exceptions).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7but Yosemite is $20 per car
- PATSCRU, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11zero investment?
it's their ***** land. - Peacemaker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I agree the Sky Walk is simply a tourist attraction, and if you want to see something really amazing in Arizona you are better off visiting the Meteor Creator site just west of Flagstaff.
http://www.meteorcrater.com
Educational, well put together, and the price is only $15 no additional parking fee's! -
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