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- 501337, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29I'll never bet against the internet again. That was a costly weekend in Vegas.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21I just have to add that I have cut myself off from Television and I'm feeling more free now than ever. It's time to turn off your cable people. If you can't find the entertainment for you on the web, make some up. Start contributing, you'll find it's more rewarding than being programmed.
- kevxross, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18MPAA & RIAA in unison: "Sue!"
- misterpony, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18"But what’s surprising is that so many companies are still betting against the net, trying to solve today’s problems with yesterday’s solutions. Simplicity is triumphing over complexity. Accessibility is beating exclusivity. Power is increasingly in the hands of the user."
Is this a "call to arms," so to speak? Get ready to defend consumer rights against the telcoms on the internet? And did Eric write it? There's no byline. - hambend, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@AudioPhil3
Who? Belgian newspapers who demanded to have their content removed from Google. China, which employs tens of thousands to try to control information on the internet. Telecoms who want to break the internet down into "tiers" which they control. Governments who want to make anonymous criticism over the internet illegal. Any company which tries to bind users to their product with proprietary file formats.
I'd provide links, but you can find all this stuff on Google... - Roryking, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8wow, you've been waiting to say that for awhile, eh? :-)
but he's right. internet-based everything is asking for failure - Wildthing, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10What's surprising is so many people are betting ON the net. They all believe we're going to run EVERYTHING off a remote server via AJAX or some new Web 2.0 language. Yes, much content is moving to the web, but we aren't going to run EVERYTHING in a Firefox browser. Try running Company of Heroes over Firefox.
Why anyone would want to take their data that's 12 inches from their CPU with an access time of 10 ms and move it to a datacenter 30 miles away with an access time of 10 ms + Internet travel time is beyond me.
Web 2.0 fanboys can mod me down, but get your head out of your "software is God" @$$es and realize that unless you can instantaneously get your data from your server farm to my CPU faster than my local hard drive can do it there will ALWAYS be a need for local applications and storage. - Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8yeah, once you stop watching tv, you realise how crap it is (its unbelievably crap (90% of it I mean, the rest is on my computer :) ))
- Stonedonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7The information wants to be free!
Sorry, that was supposed to be my "inside voice." Carry on. - bettermentflux, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12Pretty profound sentiments coming from the CEO of a major corp. - even if it is self-serving. More importantly, he's right.
- flashboy131, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7you don't need a tv to watch Lost. or at least thats what i heard..
- thegreyfox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Microsoft: "D'oh!"
- 6strings, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I would also add risk management to the reasons why the world will never go all-Internet. For instance: No way am I going to trust Google to manage my company e-mail up and running. What if they don't? What if my connection to my ISP drops? What, nobody in my company gets to send e-mail internally any more? Compare that sad situation to having my own copy of my own mail software on my own servers managed by my own IT lackey at whom I can direct my own threats, if it goes down.
- 6strings, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Yeah, it's easy for Schmidt to say things like this. Google doesn't make content.
It's quite true that controlling content inevitably fails due to human ingenuity. It's also true that when content creators aren't paid in proportion to demand, their incentive to create takes a nosedive. Schmidt's idea -- stop controlling content -- seems to be driven by the naive premise that content creators will do it for free, forever.
And those who feel this guy is overselling browsers as the final frontier are right. I started hearing that browsers were going to replace the OS and the application suite about a decade ago, and it was obviously ***** then, too. I doubt Google will even get two percent of the Microsoft Office market share by 2010. - blapierre, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Someone hasn't been watching Lost.
- Daunting, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Let alone the RIAA and the MPAA actively hunting down individuals in a widespread, almost omniscient technology.
- isemism, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7We make them more like a truck ;)
- Skyhoper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Don’t bet against the internets"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What else is he going to say: "Our growth in the internet is flacid and you should dump our stock"?
- pgup, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Web Bubble 2.0
- AudioPhil3, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5"But what’s surprising is that so many companies are still betting against the net, trying to solve today’s problems with yesterday’s solutions."
Who? Examples of companies betting against the Internet please.
His whole article is based around this statement, yet.. it still caries no weight due to lack of evidence. He just uses the excuse to self serve.
I give this article 8.8 - treelovinhippie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"Today’s desktop software will be overtaken by internet-based services that enable users to choose the document formats, search tools and editing capability that best suit their needs."
And there my friends is Google's road-map. It's something I've been predicting for a while with Google either creating or snapping up web-based applications (eg Writely).
Lookout for the Google WebOS coming to a computer near you! - Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4to ensure future mishaps?
you want disasters to happen? - jerozoid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Finally on video - The new BORGoogle! "Resistance is futile! You will be assimilated!"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1""Eric Schmidt: "What's surprising is that so many companies are still betting against the net, trying to solve today's problems with yesterday's solutions....""
In other words, "Most companies are too smart to swallow our never-ending stream of choad that we market as a way to make money". - marktwen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Um, that company releasing some product called....oh, yeah, Bista, or Vista--something like that. No names mentioned in the article, but that Bista, Vista, whatever....that product and its motivation seems entirely to conform with what Schmidt's talking about. I can't imagine why it's on his mind, just now. ;-)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Linux has dlls, you aren't using it.
- Raian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My guess is a company like wal mart trying betting against online downloads because their movie business is profitable... but it is a tad rhetorical of an argument
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The lag is "worth it"?? I guess taking 10 seconds to open a document, save it etc etc is worth it if nobody's "paying" for all that wasted time.
Not to mention the redundant internet connections you'd need just to ensure *you* are connected to the internet at a speed that makes work feasible.
So yeah, putting everything online is worth it. As long as it's your personal crap where the consequences of downtime & wasted time are only your problem.
PS.
Daunting - this has nothing to do with open source, sorry. Web-based open source software is not even close to the quality of desktop-based open source software. - blapierre, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1If your HDD has a 10ms seek time then I suggest you get rid of that piece of crap.
- Daunting, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Everything will not be directly linked through the internet. Some things are just better done through other means. However, most of the information that is being transfered throughout the world is being transfered throughout the internet. It isn't absolutely Web 2.0 applications that are controlling the future of the internet. That's just another branch of modern internet innovation alongside open source technology and other avenues. Even the technology that we don't use directly through the internet is highly influenced by the internet. Actually it's sort of hard to find an aspect of our lives that isn't indirectly or directly influenced by the internet.
Yet companies are still against much of this advancement, and they'll be left behind in the wind.
Dang, I've been waiting a long time to say that. - notmv80, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I hear a rumor brewin'.
- firelord24, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0welcome to GoogleOS, or the best reason for it.
- marinist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Incidentally, server-based products were pushed during the dotcom days, but they didn't live up to the hype. Initially, when a hip, new internet product comes out, it looks like a huge success. But their market base never lives up to predictions, and growth peaks sooner than expected. Maybe Google will succeed where others have failed, but I'm hearing the familiar sounds of another overhyped Silicon Valley company.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I'd be surprised if they hit even 1%. They haven't even come close to matching the functionality provided by MSO / OOO.
- notmv80, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0If Mozilla had an OS, I might use it. What about Google OS? Just needs to be able to run .dlls. Microsoft would throw a fit.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+7Poppycock. We all know the internets are a series of tubes, what happens if they get clogged?
- hambend, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2@Wildthing
I don't think you understand. The benefits outweigh the drawbacks. Thusly:
collaboration + sharing + automatic backups + social networking mechanisms + location independent access > lag
See? Lag sucks, but it's worth it when I can access my documents from work, university, home, a net cafe in China, or anywhere else with an internet connection.
No, web2.0 will not replace your home computer. The idea is to make the home computer transient. That is, every computer you use should act like it's your own personal home computer. It doesn't make sense to run a process-heavy application like a game over the internet, but what if you could log into any computer, download any games you've purchased, access all your saved games and play like you were sitting at home?
Valve's Steam == Web2.0 for commercial games. - duke_nate, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3"Betting against the net is foolish because you're betting against human ingenuity..."
.....and Al Gore.... - Atomic1fire, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2watching tv is basicly staring into glass for a full 30min/1hr
yet its still better then trying to find stuff on the internet - JB1984, on 10/12/2007, -10/+0If you bet against the Internet you basically want America to crash! We need to make our cyberspace more secure to ensure future mishaps.
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