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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+157A north American currency would lead to a north American government. The larger a federal government grows the more inefficient it becomes, the more corrupt it becomes and the less it can do for the average tax payer at the local level. Lobbyists and big companies win. The rest of us lose.
The amero is about more power and control for the few. - alanhlake, on 10/12/2007, -17/+129Nations who have the euro, an international currency, are finding that decisions are being made with their money that are against their national interests.
- elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+50M-A-L-L-E-A-B-L-E
Mailable means Able to be sent through the postal service. - AreTooDeTo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+48@ readthis
i agree with you. i am getting very nervous about the future of the United States, everything seems to be leading up to the average taxpayer losing in the long run. - dukeeeey, on 10/12/2007, -3/+38This video is extremely relevant to the article
Describes the one world government/currency etc
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2235455191538141308&q=police+state+3&hl=en
Definitely worth the watch, even if you disagree with the points being made. - spooky47, on 10/12/2007, -3/+37The amero will never be accepted under normal circumstances. However, the current national debt is nearly 9 trillion dollars with unfunded liabilities of over 50 trillion which is equal to all the assets of the American people. US citizens have a negative savings rate as low as 1933 - the worst part of the Great Depression. The US economic boom over the last couple decades is largely based of credit. The US has borrowed over 50% of the credit issued worldwide. Eventually, credit will run out or the value of the dollar will drop, due to inflating the money supply, to a point countries will longer hold USD's in reserve. If central banks particularly China and Japan being dumping their large dollar reserves (China holds nearly 1 trillion USD), a chain reaction, however unlikely, could occur where OPEC stops using the Petrodollar as the backing for oil purchases. Trillions of dollars would be sent back to the US to purchase US goods, flooding the domestic money supply. The dollar could implode with hyper-inflation. If those events occur causing a depression, the Amero will be presented as the savior.
- Boshow, on 10/12/2007, -8/+31I'll give you credit if you can tell me how giving up the dollar will be the beginning of us loosing our rights? I can't see that happening. For fun, here are some predictions about the future:
1. Global free trade area will happen.
- EU established a free trade area in the most of Europe. It made them the largest economy in the world (in terms of GDP). NAFTA also attempted to do this, but was shot down because Americans are still afraid of Mexicans taking our jobs. NAFTA will come up again, and sooner or later Asia, South America, and Africa will follow suit with their own free trade areas.
This will lead to...
2. Global currency.
- With the formation of the EU, a standard currency was introduced, the EURO. Since its inception, it has steadily gained power and is now more valuable than the dollar and most other currencies in the world. A global currency will eliminate the need for exchange rates and will SEVERLY reduce administration and maintenance costs associated with using these exchange rates.
Then...
3. Global economy (mass redistribution of resources, especially labor).
- Once a global free trade area has been established, it gets a bit crazy. A free trade not only eliminates all tariffs and taxes on international trade; it will eliminate the need for passports, green cards, and working papers. Lots of people will move to where the jobs are and eventually, after all the ***** that will happen (anti-immigration people will be responsible for this), probably a war or two, everything will calm down and there will be vast productivity due to the global market reaching equilibrium in the labor market.
Note: all this will take place over the next 100 years or so.
But after its all done we'll be going to other planets to mess them up as well.
Oh, and if this doesn't happen, we'll all have probably killed each other in a nuclear war. All because the rich don't like to share, especially money. - tech42er, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24@elnerdo
The constitution is both malleable (if not easily) and mailable. - d00ley, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17"A world government with the power and ability to provide mutual security would be an enormous benefit to humanity."
If there was a world government... a single, uncontested power over the entire planet, what makes you think those in control of this power would use it to benefit humanity and provide for our mutual security? - bipe, on 10/12/2007, -10/+25And we were worried about the Nazi's. It looks like the powers that be are taking over the world without a shot being fired. They prey on our apathy. As for me, I will fight. Gotta go call my scumbag representatives again and bash them for no Congressional over sight. Go get them! Free trade is the trojan horse of global government.
- spooky47, on 10/12/2007, -9/+23Correct. Article 5 allows the federal constitution to be mailable. It's called the amendment process.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Absolute tyranny is possible when the government's combined weaponry exceeds the total of its citizens' combined weaponry. Just food for thought.
- anaesthetica, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@boshow
NAFTA wasn't shot down. It was passed back in 1994. It's been in effect for over a decade. A new one was passed a few years ago for Central America, called DR-CAFTA.
Asia and South America already have free trade areas: ASEAN+3 (agreed to last year) and Mercosur (been around for a while now). - kiloWatt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13spooky47, I am intrigued by you post and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
- bluejaypsu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Wow. everyone talking about money but no one mentions monetary policy.
The controlers of a currency (ie the Fed) can choose to control either inflation or growth, but not both. The Euro central bank makes decisions to hold inflation (prices) by raising rates and using other tools at their disposal. But the market isn't the same in Estonia as in Germany. a rate change affects them differently because they have different levels of inflation, different rates of growth, different amounts of imports and exports, etc.
By the same token, when the US raises or lowers it's rates, countries that have adapted the dollar (to control inflation) like Ecuador and El Salvador, are affected.
If we had a global currency, who would decide when to raise rates to control inflation? What about countries that are experiencing deflation? They would be much worse off.
The moral here is that it's not in the nest interest of any nation to adopt a forign currency unless your economies are already linked. - Aleman360, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Why the f* do people want bigger government?
- multitudinous, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Okay, 'becoming France' seems kind of ridiculous--the slippery slope doesn't work like that. Alarmist comments don't really help anything--but worldwide currency? Not going to happen; didn't work with language, won't work with currency. If not even all nations in the EU will use the Euro, who is really going to believe that the 'Amero' is going to gain any momentum here? And why would the U.S. ever concede to another currency? Totally antithetical to our national identity.
- thrallie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I say we use the liberty dollar, or e-gold. Maybe..we should just vote in ron paul and bring back the old system before the federal reserve came about.
- wakananda, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Most people who are vocal about restoring the Constitution don't deny that there exists an Amendment process - at least I haven't heard anyone complain about it, or deny it. They, and I, are very concerned about the Executive Orders, Signing Statements, the "Patriot Act," the "Military Commissions Act," and the Defense Authorization Bill, that grant the Executive truly dictatorial powers. Those being the power to declare a US Citizen - or the citizen of any other country - an "enemy combatant," thereby stripping them of their rights. US Citizens can now be secretly abducted, shipped to a foreign country, tortured, and held indefinitely without charge, without the right to a lawyer, or any kind of trial. Also, the US Executive can send in the US Armed Forces against US Citizens, without the approval of US Congress or the government of the State or States in question, for any reason, or no reason at all. This is the neocon (neofascist) doctrine of the "unitary executive," and it undermines the separation of powers which are the rock our system of government was built upon. All these laws, orders and statements are unconstitutional, and therefore illegitimate. If "constitutional amendments" were signed which were otherwise unconstitutional (e.g., and "amendment" that did away with the Bill of Rights, for example, on any pretext), that amendment would be unconstitutional and invalid. The Constitution contains no self-destruct mechanism! All legislation must be in accord with it, as it is the Great Writ, the Supreme law of the land. Under no circumstances might an elected dictator say: "we're not using the Constitution for awhile; we might decide to use it again later, when we think it's safe" - and presumably passing an Amendment saying as much. Similarly, a dictator cannot pass an Amendment saying "we're not the USA any more, but the NAU; scrap the old Constitution and our body of experts will replace it with something shiny and new and forward thinking." This is a recipe for civil war - but it looks as if globalists are intent on dragging us down that road.
- zarex, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10We used to have a global currency, gold. I'd be fine with returning to that, and ending the fraudulent fiat currencies.
- VaporBro, on 10/26/2007, -2/+102003 was 4 years ago. We can forget about France next year.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Isn't this fulfilling some sort of biblical prophecy or something? Seriously, I know there was a deal with a single world leader and language, however, I thought a single currency played in as well. Hm...
- shig, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@nick111
replying to "Nations who have the euro, an international currency, are finding that decisions are being made with their money that are against their national interests."
you said "Out of curiosity... such as?"
Germany is having problems not being able to set it's own interest rate. The Thatcher government decided to join the European Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM, as sort of Euro dress rehearsal), with the pound set at DM2.95 in October 1990. However, Britain was forced to withdraw from the system on Black Wednesday (September 16, 1992) as Britain's economic performance made the exchange rate unsustainable. George Soros famously made a billion U.S. dollars by shorting the pound during the period. British citizens are still suffering under the E.U. regulatory body, it costs them one hundred million pounds a year to afford the Unions required infrastructure, and not to mention such "treaties" violate their constitution. Yes they have a constitution, a very good one at that, and it's more than enough to protect them from such corruptions. It also looks like ItalianLexy speaks of issues concerning Italian citizenry. - Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8How naive. A global currency is tantamount to a global free trade agreement. That's all well and good, until you consider that major market differences in the various countries, particularly in regard to labor, are controlled by governments with far different agendas. Lacking a global authority to regulate the intrinsic self-destructiveness of capitalism, countries will compete themselves into permanent poverty by essentially enslaving their own populations...not unlike the current state of affairs, perhaps.
Don't even get me started on the gold standard. If ever there were a touchstone of economic cretinism, there it is. - Kronos6948, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9@michael4lsu
Wouldn't it be funny if the Christians got it wrong, and Ragnarok was the end of the world?
You can wait for Jesus. I'll be looking for Yggdrasil. - nick111, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13re: "Nations who have the euro, an international currency, are finding that decisions are being made with their money that are against their national interests."
Out of curiosity... such as? - Sovereignman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10I am an American and believe the Constitution should be strictly adheared to. My first concern in this world is that of the freedom and prosperity of the American people. Once poverty and other conditions that prevent those in this country live at a standard equivalent to what is considered middle class then I will concern myself with the rest of the world.
While I support freedom of speech I nonetheless find the work of the CFR to be dangerous. If their ideas represent what our internal enemies think can you imagine what our external enemies are up to.
The list of CFR members who are Presidential Candidates is scary. Many of the Democrats are as well as McCain, Thompson and I think Hunter. - JustMatt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Honestly, sometimes I think that what this world needs is to discover another world with intelligent life. Imagine the thought of the earth being just one planet among others with life. I think that would whip this world into unity faster than anything. Or it would just destroy it who knows. Its a little far fetched, but I wonder about that a lot. It would really change the perspective of a lot of our international problems.
- trupolitik, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15Why do banks and bankers want a global currency? the answer is the same to the question of why they want floating currencies (as opposed to currencies tied to gold/silver). CONTROL. Banks can create booms and busts with hyper creation and removal of capital in any given country or region, and more importantly, they can INFLUENCE a nation's leaders by threatening to drop a capital "bomb" on their country if they do not "obey". This is the purpose behind the IMF and World Bank.
As long as currencies are National in nature, the people could always insist that their currency stick to a gold/silver standard (ie Ron Paul for President in 2008), but if there is a regional or world currency each person's opinion is diluted, and another layer of bureaucracy is added to keep the people away from the levers of power.
Global currency = Global control by those who control the World Bank (who else would control it?)
Fight this by voting for Ron Paul! - mrfoos2, on 10/12/2007, -10/+16We gotta put it in geek terms: the Constitution was the first open source document in the US.
- italianlexy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Since the euro was introduced here in italy it has been really bad with finances. Prices of EVERYTHING has doubled, and peoples paychecks have stayed the same... Stores have decided to just take off some zeros, while workers got the right exchange. so people are getting the money they were receiving before, but everything that we can buy has doubled! Making pretty much everyone poor....
- shig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@boshow
In the U.S. Constitution it clearly states that only Congress has the power to print money, and regulate trade within the States. Congress cannot relinquish this power, simply because it is not theirs to relinquish. As a citizen of a State, I have lent this power to the elected congress for the purposes of directly controlling my nation's monetary system within constitutional provisions. It would be a violation of federal law for Congress to do otherwise. If the branches of the federal government are unable to perform their duties to the States lawfully, then the union between the States should be dissolved with it's power returned to the individual States. Not deferred to some other union except by means of voting within interested States. In fact, several States have already passed laws prohibiting membership into a North American Union, and if it were to go through federally they should deny membership within the current one.
The constitution changes as far as articles within it get amended, and repealed, etc. The purpose of the document has never changed. It is the contract between the individual States and the federal government, and thus the federal government is bound by the States. - robz0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I agree, excellently written post. Once a day some light shines through on Digg!
- Boshow, on 10/12/2007, -12/+17For all of you who say that the constitution shouldn't be changed because it would .... whatever. The genious of the founding fathers is that they made the constitution open for change, they designed it to be maliable. This country is different than it was 200 years ago and it will change in the future. The constitution should change with it.
- ButterBridge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If you actually read the article, the plan is trying to thwart the FURTHER devaluation of our dollar.
Read before you react. - lieutenantmudd, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Even with the WND's spin and apart from the headline, the original paper seems to suggest that the dollar will be replaced in FOREIGN transactions, not domestic. And that global currencies will replace national currencies in SMALLER countries. The Dollar isn't going anywhere.
Most of Francophone Africa share a currency, which is supported by France and tied to the Euro. These countries don't have to worry about the inflation that plagues other developing countries. I think this idea will become more common. Economic blocks will pool together and form joint currencies. It's a trade off, you lose the ability to tailor monetary policy to your economic situation and you gain spreading risk out among other nations along with easier transaction between nations.
Again, globalization is going to pick off weaker, smaller currencies. Not the strongest, most common currency in the world. - wafflez, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6This sounds wayyy too naive/idealistic...We're not even CLOSE to being global enough a community to have this work successfully. This would make rich countries richer, poor poorer and would completely demolish outsourcing...I can, however, see this working within a continent of it's own...like uhh 'Afros' in Africa, 'Asios' in Asia? Maybe I'm just too cynical.
- NGliam, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9All the world will have one currency, except lil England.. sat here saying "NO!".
- iRoy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+111984, here we come!
- whiteninja, on 10/12/2007, -9/+13....and I just ran out of tinfoil
- phrozen1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5i am from canada and want absolutely no relation to the united states...i wish we were not on the same continent...they want to do this so their falling dollar will actually have value again and they can integrate themselves into our economy more and have greater control of our natural resources. our culture is being invaded enough because of our proximity. i would fight to my death against a north american currency even if it meant my life...unity mean conformity and lack of diversification...it is in the United states best interest for this to go through..no one elses..almost like every other "initiative" they seem to present.
- RollFizzlebeef, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Are some of you aware that using the words "leftists" or "socialists" outside of Free Republic makes you sound like an idiot? Those accusations weren't even true in McCarthy's era, much less ours.
Fact: every economy on the planet is a mixed economy - some more socialist, some more capitalist. - spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11@screwballl (#6593962)
I always find it amusing when Americans talk about how much they dislike France as if that was the standard, when internationally France has a much better reputation than the USA currently does - estvir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Reminds me of the 'Galactic Bank' in Subspace Explorers by E. E. 'Doc' Smith.
In fact, the whole book has some eery similarities and is an awesome book as well. - doomcomplex, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I'm not claiming the dollar is stable - I'm just saying WND is run by loonies.
- antivirus88, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8I will be extremely mad if this happens before I retire. Do these people realize how much is vested in the idea that currencies will fluctuate in an international business? People make livings off of different currencies's values.
- aristotle0dude, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5That "expert' can stick his ideas where the sun don't shine.
- 2k3john, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I've spent considerable time in both France and Germany and noticed an interesting thing.... The French are still pissed off at the Germans, and the Germans are still pissed off at us - at least the older generations in both countries.
4 Years? We got time. - trupolitik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4They dont have to worry about inflation?!?!?! Are you kidding me?!?! Their version of the federal reserve can lower interest rates and print alot of money and the capital bubble (ie inflation) is created, and not by economic forces but unelected bankers.
No offense, but you REALLY need to study how fiscal policies work. - directedition, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Interesting paranoid delusion. Why not have a similar stupid wrath about the Euro?
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