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- iascoot, on 10/11/2007, -1/+32i imagine this will bring new extremes if you owned this and someone stole your parking spot
- AceTracer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19You can buy a three-bedroom house with a game room, den, in-ground pool and hot tub for $225,000 in Houston? Seriously?
- redrock34, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18Maybe New York can take a page out of Tokyo's book and invest in mechanical parking.
- sockpuppets, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16Think of the fun you could have painting handicapped logos on peoples spaces.
- Oracle95, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13Spring, TX: just a few miles north of Houston, 4 bedroom, game room, in ground pool, guest cottage, 3 car garage, 3500 sq. feet - $160,000 (Oh and its in a gated community)
Sounds like a Master Card commercial, but it's not.
But to add to the differences, New York has its own income tax. Texas does not. I've never lived in New York, but I can attest to New Jersey (its suburb). The DMV in Texas (or any other government agency for that matter) is 100% more efficient and pleasant to work with. - MetalLizard, on 10/11/2007, -4/+15I understand that people move to NY for careers, but seriously... It's ***** NEW YORK.
- GenVoss, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12I love how cheap housing is in Houston.
- rot13ubercrypto, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9"She and her three children, ages 7, 9 and 11, live on Long Island, but the children’s modeling schedules bring them into the city at least twice a week, and the apartment they bought in the building will be a pied-à-terre."
My heart's bleeding. - Toothy1911, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10Sounds like London. People get into bidding wars, and pay £100,000's for crappy spaces.
- paradigm1220, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8The further out of the city you go, the better prices you can find. So many people are moving out therer that freeways can't be built fast enough. If you're moving to Houston, hope you can handle the traffic...
- ultimate_ed, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Yes, quite easily. That's part of why the Houston area continues to draw people in.
Oh, and that price also includes at least a TWO CAR garage. - unlikelycommon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I cant believe people make enough money literally to waste it on parking. Do as you want with the money you have earned but man, I could think of much better uses than to waste that much dough on parking.
- aquadoctorbob, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7It's your avatar that really makes your statement complete.
(Coincidentally, "***** hole my ass" is the most unintentionally hilarious thing I've read today) - combatchuck, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6New Yorkers will always say that it's the greatest city on the planet. They have to justify -- to themselves, not to us -- why they pay $3000 a month for a ***** 15x15 apartment that wouldn't even be considered livable in most other cities.
- fprintf, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6It is all supply and demand, and as others have said, exists in many large urban areas throughout the world. $225k may seem like a lot to you and me, but to someone making *millions* per year (and there are tons of people that make that kind of money in the city) then $225k for the convenience of a private parking space is much the same as you and I paying a $5 parking fee every day. It is nothing.
Besides, when you earn so much money anything over what it costs to feed and clothe yourself & family is just extra income waiting to be spent. It may seem extravagant, but then again a computer might seem extravagant to someone who cannot yet afford one.
Personally I'd rather not live/work in NY City as it can be a rather nasty place but would be willing to make the sacrifice for a 9 - 10 figure income for a few years. - JohnnyXmas, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9That's HORRIBLE! My space only costs me $300 a day, and I thought THAT was bad! At least it's like RIGHT in front of my works entrance:
http://www.cityofkingston.ca/img/transportation/Parking-PermitFine_150.gif - rephlektiv, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4i don't have a reason to drive around the city.. i park my car out of state in CT for weekend trips, but seriously.. who wants to DRIVE in Manhattan? Having a guaranteed parking space at home in Manhattan does not guarantee a space at your destination. I can understand people who one who don't actually live in Manhattan.. such as the people in the story, but why would you live here and want to park here?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4We already have that all over the place - 4 high and sometimes more- both indoors and out
@ aqua
mechanical lifts
http://www.wohr-parking.co.uk/images/vertical_stacking.jpg - Gir53457, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Idaho gets you a 6 bedroom house with a den, pool attic, basement and garage with a workshop and new kitchen for 255,000.
- xienze, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4... And this is why a lot of Americans prefer sprawl. Cities are ridiculously expensive, have more crime, more pollution (LA, I'm looking in your direction...) -- just more problems than the suburbs. For most people, it boils down to "I can have a far better standard of living if I living outside of the city -- so what if I have to drive thirty miles a day?"
Just thought I'd throw that in there to give some perspective because the prevailing opinion here is that sprawl is driven by greed or some other nonsense, when in reality it's driven by a fairly reasonable cost-benefit analysis. Even if gas went to $7 a gallon I have a feeling it would still be cheaper for me to maintain my current lifestyle than it would to live a lower quality of life in New York, Boston, Chicago, etc. - mentol, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I agree with that and with the fact that overpopulation (or maybe CAR-EXCESS) is what drives these prices up!
- mrbradg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I can build a 4 or 5 bedroom home were I live for $150,000. Maybe less. I pity a fool.
- simplenation, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6nothing. ceris has never been to houston.
- NinjaBoy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Here in missouri $100,000 will get you a VERY nice place and a few acres of land.
- Zique, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3In my student days I used to work in a parking hall - not many things can make you feel poorer than being surrounded by parking lots with a higher monthly fee than your apartment. On the positive side, working there and getting free parking nearly doubled my purchasing power.
- Powerlock, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Amsterdam is the same. You can spend € 100.000+ for a parking space in the inner city. Still, people buy them.
- PantherX, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Take. A. Cab.
Actually you could hire a 40 hr a week chauffeur and buy a car for less than that... every year. - Cozmcphish, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2This article should have been titled: The Price You Pay to Be a Lazy Bastard
- gtapro92, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2yea it is
- ultimate_ed, on 10/11/2007, -5/+7As long as A$$holes like ceris keep that attitude and stay away, we will continue to maintain a low A$$hole factor down here in Houston. Which is a great place to live. New York? Oh, Please - get over yourself.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2As always, New York is about infrastructure and relationships.
I, myself don't own a car - although I grew up in car culture on the left coast.
Having a car in Manhattan can be really fun but of course finding a space can be evil.
Most of the people I know with a car live in Hoboken or upstate and just like the idea that they don't need to experience the subway or Metro North, etc. when they want to go back home. Lets say it takes you an hour to get to Grand Central and then another 20 - 30 mins to get from there via cab or train to your actual work. If you can have that time all private it might be nice.
So --- whether the $$$ is worth it is debatable; are you going to have a better quality of life if you pay for a car and parking? Is your 2 hour (or more) commute _each way_ from up the river going to get better? Are you going to be able to go out for a couple hours after work and do errands?
People live here because the infrastructure is huge and no matter what you want to do - yes, 24/7 - there are probably at least 1000 other people (really) that would like to do the same thing (if you can find them).
The question is, can having a car help you feel like there are more hours in the day? If yes, then totally worth it. - binnis, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2A thirty mile commute isn't that bad, relatively speaking.
There are a hand full of people at my place of employment whole live between 50 to 70 miles from our job. From Newark, NJ to South Jersey (exit 5 on the NJ Turnpike or the low 100's on the GSP for all you NJ heads out there).
Similarly, there are a handful of NY employees that work in the city and live in eastern PA which is a hell of a commute. I would imagine though that some of them take some sort of public transportation as it is available at a reasonable rate. - mccrew, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"Actually you could hire a 40 hr a week chauffeur and buy a car for less than that... every year."
True, very true. But by the same token, after using the space for a couple of years, you now get to resell it. And since it is a limited commodity with high demand, you can expect to turn a tidy profit. - kastro77, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Less than half the households in New York own cars (even lower for people living in Manhattan). so cost of parking isn't a big deal. There's actually plenty of free parking in the city too, if you aren't lazy. The cost of parking doesn't affect my quality of life, and having access to the best culture, activities, restaurants, nightlife, and people sure beats living in some big sprawl city and commuting in a pollution puffing car.
- asiarock, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You think that's bad, you should see the prices of car park spaces in Hong Kong. Some can go for double that price!
- Gir53457, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Other than people being more aggressive than Austin.
- VeganG, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yes, but enjoy your lucrative career growing potatoes and having nothing to do for entertainment.
- xienze, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Do you ever think you'll realistically get the chance to buy a house in Boston? And when it's $500K for a dump, what's your quality of life going to be then?
Or do you just not care about having equity and would prefer to flush money down the toilet every month in rent? - Gir53457, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1*****, dick, bitch, *****, ass, *****, damn, hell, and bastard are all allowed. Self censorship is a sign of weakness and non-confrontation.
- BrandonMills, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Just to counter that point -
I've lived in West Virginia and recently moved to Boston, and I have to say, my quality of life has drastically increased, and the idea of living away from a city seems nuts to me. First off, the commute is about the same to work. The only difference is instead of driving, I take the subway. It's a little less hectic without worrying about gas or possible traffic accidents. Of course, the monthly fee for this is $60 a month, where as for driving my car to work, it would usually be much higher. Secondly, and far more importantly, the economy of Mass is far healthier than the deader-than-dead economy of WV. Though cost of living is indeed more expensive, I get paid for more here for doing the same job. So it's by far more beneficial for me to be in Boston. I live in an apartment instead of a house, which hasn't effected my quality of life. If anything, it's less for me to clean. In Boston, there is absolutely a ton of things to do, where as in West Virginia, it was boring as Hell 24 / 7. Not to mention airfare is much cheaper at an international airport ( which WV doesn't have. ), so it's less costly for me to travel. Crime is a joke, as I briefly lived in Baltimore, so Boston's equivalent to 'crime' makes me giggle. Polution, perhaps, but it's not really all that bad. One of the things I love is that I can just walk anywhere I need to go instead of driving constantly. If I really need a car, which doesn't happen very often, I use my ZipCar membership to rent a car for a day or so.
So my life in Boston isn't really so bad. Actually, it's kind of sweet. - combatchuck, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I drive 45 miles each way for $10.71 an hour.
- CedEx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I remember they did this in NJ, near Hoboken. The mechanical parking lot owners had a dispute with the company that wrote the software to control the mechanics. The licence expired or there was a contract dispute, and the software shut itself off or something. In anycase, the system shut down, and people couldn't get their cars out of the mechanical parking lot for days.
- nemesisrobot, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I know where i'm moving to
- rasp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1What people always seem to forget is that *people* make the place. If people are willing to pay through the nose to live in NYC but in Houston they have to practically give houses away... well, I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
- gtapro92, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1hhahaha now you know wat its like to have near a quarter of the kids in your school modeling/acting and bragging about it, welcome to long island
- leoedin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1In Edinburgh, Scotland, it costs $80,000 for a small garage (aka concrete box) in my area (a few miles from the centre of town)
- in2deep, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1This is absolutely ridiculous!
- troprocker, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1When did they stop teaching spelling and grammar in NY?
- etnu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0What the ***** is wrong with people?
- bbqsalad, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I dont understand why so many people flock to NYC. I live in CT and I am always going there. Outside of the city there are really nice quiet areas all over new york.. Pleanty of room and much cheaper to live.. Yet everyone crams into such a small little area of it.. WHY?
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