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- Verchiel77, on 10/12/2007, -9/+117Imagine that: a patently ridiculous, window dressing measure accomplishing, precisely, nothing.
- jtbauki, on 10/12/2007, -7/+72I enjoy the new DST. Leaving work after it gets dark is depressing.
- Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+67I'm amazed that the submitter actually found a summary even lazier than "Title Says It All"...
- geoboy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+64Exactly. What else would the government do?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+38Great.. a perfect failure. Glad I spent 2 days patching all those servers for the new DST.
- badfrog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28Actually farmers (at least dairy farmers) don't like DST either. Cows can't immediately adjust an hour arbitrarily, so the farmers DO have to get up an hour earlier and gradually adjust the milking time over a couple of weeks.
Yeah, so I grew up in WI... - a1a04824, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32Not to mention the billions in overtime or comp time taken by computer professionals having to patch all their equipment.
- BuffalOBisoN, on 10/12/2007, -7/+30dugg down for the use of 'irregardless'.
- Kahnza, on 10/12/2007, -6/+27Probably never. Since they don't like to admit when they are wrong.
- mediaphile, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22@copaceticz:
holy *****. it's called a period. use it. - DDoSAttack, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21DSTbeta?
I wonder if it's also DST 2.0 with a reflection logo? - Kahnza, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20Cause the dark side would be an unlivable ice box. And the day side would be a scorching oven.
- DarkYang, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25Odd... I thought DST was move ahead one hour, not 3 and a half hours.
- JimV, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24Who knew?
/everyone - garyh84, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Funny how so many people took this seriously.
- brundlefly76, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17The new DST is great, it improves my mood weeks earlier.
- AKBryant54, on 10/12/2007, -7/+22I know that daylight savings time seems like a waste in the lower 48, but in alaska it's actually pretty important, because for most of the year you drive to work or school in the dark and you get home in the dark, but when daylight savings time rolls around you get to savor that extra hour of light, maybe do some snowboarding or something. It's really not necessary but it's a very nice thing up here.
- aepex, on 10/12/2007, -8/+23How long before it takes the government to realize that daylight savings time in general is just not worth it?
- brufleth, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20The new DST was DEFINITELY worse than nothing. I work for a very large company that works on a huge quantity of government contracts. They patched our computers but the patching got botched on some people and their computers were ahead an extra hour for a week (kept self correcting to wrong time). Our phones also have clocks on them that were off by an hour for a couple days. That might seem like no big deal but if you look at dollar value a missed meeting might cost thousands. Multiply that times what was probably hundreds if not thousands of missed or delayed meetings and appointments across all tax funded jobs and there was probably millions in productivity loss due to screwing with the time of day with no energy benefit.
So maybe millions is "small change" in the grand scheme of things. It is definitely a lot of wasted money I, as a tax payer, would prefer not be wasted. - lilmoonee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Fine..if a majority of people want it, extend DST for the whole year...end this time shifting madness once and for all...
- VaporBro, on 10/26/2007, -9/+23They didn't really "***** ***** up". It just didn't show an improvement. Nothing bad happened over this. This is more like a *meh* well that didn't work. Not a "O no WHY did we do that?!?!1" kind of thing.
I dunno...I thought it was kinda cool having the sun out for an hour longer; even if it was just 3 weeks earlier. - xerus, on 10/12/2007, -8/+22God damnit. I really like DST. It stays light out until 8pm... I hate regular time when it gets dark at 4:30pm.
- dargon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Uhm, I fixed my win2k just fine for free http://support.microsoft.com/gp/dst_hu2?systemlist=w32
- tisfl37, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Yeah, next year they'll be "undoing" this years patch...
- drmangrum, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14I wish the government would wake up and realize how silly DST is. 40 years ago when most americans were still had labor intensive jobs, it made a little sense, but that no longer holds true. Almost everyone works indoors, and not every room has a big window facing the sunlight. Add to the mix all the electronic gadgets that we simply "can't" live without, and we have a near continuous power draw.
DST does nothing but annoy Americans and inconvenience the rest of the world that tries to do business with us. - spidoman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Ridiculous and unncecesssary? Yup but I love DST anyway. I don't like when the sunrises at 4 am, 5 am seems much more sane.
- lieutenantmudd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I loved it. Sure, it didn't save energy, but it gave me daylight after work. I want it to stay around
- ani-pockdotnet, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16And for those who haven't updated their computer for DST... watch this **highly educational** Infinite Solutsions videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URB0kqeGWUE
Mark makes it so clear and easy!!! =) - gormenghast, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Alright, we're all thinking it, so I'm just gonna say it. why don't we just install rockets on the equator opposing the earths rotation and have perpetual daylight.
- brokekneck, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17 I'm not going to perticipate in DST anymore. Its worthless....
- garyh84, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Why don't we just try to start more business holidays? The US is far behind most other countries in amount of holidays, so why not?
Less people working means less electricity used + more consumer spending (since we need something to do). - vsujohn2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12And I had to ***** wake up early as hell the day they changed it, just so they could appear to be saving energy? What about the energy i could have been saving with my eyelids closed?
- BuffalOBisoN, on 10/12/2007, -11/+20Yet another example of the federal government ***** ***** up.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Yeah...people will ignore it...
Seriously..do you idiots even READ what you type? There is no way you could have written that and thought that that made any sense. - drmangrum, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11You still have a VCR?
Whoa. - zekt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Think of it like this, if you SAVE daylight now, it can be sitting in a BANK earning daylight INTEREST for a year!
Then, you can withdraw it next winter and get a whole .0000000001 of a day extra for each day you saved!*
* Bank fees and charges of .5 of a day per month apply. - je12u, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Seriously...$4,000...WTF are you talking about?!?
- TVGenius, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Ha! And you people laugh at Arizona for not playing this little game... if we did DST, then we'd have days where it was still over 100 degrees AFTER MIDNIGHT! How is that saving electricity?
- IlyaIlyaIlya, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12DST is saving nothing ! Its just a burden.
Major electricity consumers like industry are not using sunlight for lighting.
Street lights are on for the whole night anyway - and the night is not getting shorter because of DST :)
It's just breaks the sleeping habits for nothing. - seifried, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Actually worse than nothing, a LOT of software has to be updated to deal with change. That costs money. Plus I know a few people with older scheduling programs that can't get updates and had to live with manually readjusting previously items that were now off by one hour.
- soupnrc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"the move appears to have had little impact on power usage"
That implies that there was at least SOME impact... I'm fine with that. - jamesshuang, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7And the energy requirements for doing that probably exceed the total power utilized by man since their inception?
- earlycj5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'm tired of the "get up an hour earlier" argument. You still have to get ready and go to work. So while getting up an hour earlier sounds nice for some reason to people, they apparently don't consider the extra time involved in cleaning up after exercising or working in the yard, etc. Both of which can be done after it gets dark which lets me get considerably more done than if I "simply get up an hour earlier" so I can work 1/2 an hour to spend fifteen minutes getting stuff out and fifteen minutes putting stuff away and another fifteen getting cleaned up to to work.
For all I care the work day could start at 7:00 and I'd still have an extra hour after work. But for some reason it doesn't work like that. So the extra daylight AFTER work is worth more to me than an extra hour before which is essentially wasted. - algorythm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Thats nothing. Our Exchange server patches costs us something like $300k
- SeineJamah37, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Ive noticed that no one has mentioned that along with the Gregorian calendar daylight savings times is useless now...we are smart enough to have devised a better plan. The again implementing it on a world wide scale would lead to havoc..i mean remember the US trying to switch to metric? Well geez i kind of have my foot in my mouth huh?...government with thumbs up their asses..thumbs up their asses
- Salgat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"The Energy Policy Act of 2005 extended Daylight Saving Time in the U.S. beginning in 2007, though Congress retained the right to revert to the 1986 law should the change prove unpopular or if energy savings are not significant."
It is a TEST. For those of you who ignorantly dugg me down.
Source:http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/e.html - osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Power issues aside, I love going to work in the dark so I am able to get home while the sun's still up. I also don't have to drive directly into the sun anymore!
- codesuidae, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4We don't really know if it was successful yet. Since the goal was not to save power, but to give people more daylight so they could go spend more money at stores, we'll need to wait for reports from the retail sector.
- thomn8r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The DST shift is a windfall for various retail industries such as golf and other recreational outlets. Energy has nothing to do with it - the whole point is to wring a few more dollars out of the consumer. Various industries have been lobbying hard for this http://lipsyard.blogspot.com/search/label/daylight%20savings%20time
- Verchiel77, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"Wow, it's amazing how often environmentalists screw the environment, they push and push for something, and then after they get their way, it backfires." -- kylesellers
As I recall, "the environmentalists" had little to do with this. If memory serves, most of those folks were pushing the government to address fuel economy standards. The daylight savings time thing was the government's CYA response so they could say they were doing *something,* even though it was nothing of substance. -
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