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- inactive, on 07/07/2009, -0/+37Staples is the second largest e-tailer?
- DRT23, on 07/07/2009, -1/+32Mirror: http://imgur.com/K9MVr.png
btw...CA's sales tax soon to be 10% :( - edstate, on 07/07/2009, -1/+32Amazon should DEFINITELY appeal this ***** decision. If ever there was a case for SCOTUS, this is it.
And, as a NYer I expect market-rate interest back on the taxes they've stolen from me when it's overturned :P - GhostInAShell, on 07/07/2009, -4/+33***** internet taxation
- Pyros7, on 07/07/2009, -3/+32United States Constitution. Article I. Section IX:
"No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State."
The only thing that amazes me is that this sort of tax hasn't been found unconstitutional yet. That clause seems pretty straightforward to me. But who cares about the Constitution these days right? - jjvors, on 07/07/2009, -2/+30If I were Amazon, I would appeal the decision in NY requiring them to collect taxes for NYers. On the other hand, if I were a NYer, I would elect people who would reduce my tax burden. On the gripping hand, I do vote for such people in Illinois and it hasn't helped--yet.
- DaviDTC, on 07/07/2009, -0/+22It is nice to know that with the tax we have in CA we don't have any money issues.
- KnightMareInc, on 07/07/2009, -0/+22newegg is in the billions? holy crap.
- TamerzIsMe, on 07/07/2009, -0/+18Don't forget city and county sales taxes which are total BS as well. In Chicago we get hit with over 10% sales tax overall. I buy almost everything from Amazon. No tax and Prime shipping make it my first stop.
- inactive, on 07/07/2009, -0/+18That's the most surprising part about this story. How the hell is newegg doing $2b in sales and remaining relatively anonymous?
- TehProphet, on 07/07/2009, -1/+18It's good to live in Oregon :) Never had to pay more than what was on the price tag.
- BionicApple, on 07/07/2009, -0/+13What the hell is going on in the submitter's profile pic?
- Advenger, on 07/07/2009, -0/+10The problem is we do. They do good the first year, then they turn around and ***** us in the ass.
- ben162005, on 07/07/2009, -0/+8Newegg FTW!
- palmer, on 07/07/2009, -0/+8That assumes you actually NEED two-day shipping. See if it's worth it when you opt for their free or cheapest shipping.
- MedicSean37, on 07/07/2009, -1/+9Yes but you have state income tax.
- Super6, on 07/07/2009, -0/+7That's why I want to go to New Hampshire with the Free State Project, they're packing all the smart liberty-lovers into one place with no state sales or income tax
- hellengineer, on 07/07/2009, -1/+8This is total ***** for amazon which do us a service in some sort of ways. Heck I buy all my books from there.
- IHeartNY, on 07/07/2009, -0/+7We voted for Spitzer who unfortunately had Paterson as his Lieutenant Governor. Now that Paterson is governor his "solution" to our economic problem is more taxes. Here are some of his proposed taxes (from wikipedia.org):
* An "Obesity tax", which would add an extra tax of over 18% on all non diet soft drinks such as regular soda, and energy drinks
* New 4% Taxes on digital music downloads, videos and pictures downloaded or the "itax"
* A tax increase on malt-flavored beverages, beer, and wine
* A 4% tax on taxi rides, car rentals and limousine services
* A tax on movie tickets
* A new 4% 'personal services tax' on haircuts, beauty salons, health club services, and weight loss programs
* A 4% tax placed on cable and satellite TV, pay per view movies
* Additional fees for fishing, and camping
* New fees on items ranging from boilers, to explosives, to jewelry, to sporting events
* A 4 percent sales tax on clothing and shoes under $500, except for two weeks out of the year
* Additional fees on automobile purchases, registration and driving fees.
* The Ravitch Commission recommendations, which include tolls on the city-owned East River and Harlem River bridges (which has never been done before), and levy an annual driver's tax based on vehicle weight
The 137 tax and fee increases contained in Governor Paterson's 2009-10 Budget would cost the average NY family an extra $3,875.48 annually. - codyman, on 07/07/2009, -0/+7I wish Newegg was in Nevada or something cause they have great deals / selection, yet I have to pay the stupid 8.75% since I live here in California
All the etailers should just setup shop in Montana or North Dakota or something -- basically a place that no one buys anything thats not a transistor radio so we can all escape the tax issue - snareguy17, on 07/07/2009, -0/+6I've been buying nearly everything I can from Amazon in the last couple years. If you buy the yearly subscription of Amazon prime (free 2 day shipping), you're saving yourself a TON of money.
Before I made this post I checked my purchase history since January of 2009 and saved at the very last a few hundred dollars in shipping alone, who knows how much extra I saved from the high tax. - iamacyborg, on 07/07/2009, -0/+6I live in Washington and I have to pay tax on Amazon orders and it ***** sucks but if I had to choose I'd pick that over living in California and having to pay tax on NewEgg.com orders that's gotta suck, plus look at your budget. Poor California.
- WELLDOITLIVE, on 07/07/2009, -0/+6Buried for obvious reasons
- richiewrt, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5Last time I checked, the States Government can't supersede the constitution.
- ulcards2033, on 07/07/2009, -1/+6A company in California doesn't use parks/police/roads in Florida. You Fail.
- ulcards2033, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5It gets to my house via FedEx or UPS who have physical buildings and trucks that reside in the boundaries of my state and pay taxes.
- inactive, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5State income tax in Oregon is almost as high as federal, and there aren't nearly as many deductions you can take. I almost always end up pay much more state income tax than federal. Still, it's a pittance compared to what I would pay in sales tax living in some places.
- dagnome1984, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5I think you mean it is a tax that conservatives posing as libertarians want.
- rotundo, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4And that's on top of a pretty large state income tax. At least some of the states with a high sales tax go easy on income tax or forego it entirely. I moved from SF to Las Vegas for just this reason :/ Hope I can move back some day when they figure out how to run the state for a reasonable amount of tax.
- Pyros7, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4Yes, that's actually the next article after the one I cited.
But as someone above pointed out, the states can't pass laws that supersede the Constitution. In regards to this article, do they have the consent of Congress to impose those taxes? Are they giving those taxes to the US Treasury or keeping them for their own pet projects?
I'm hardly a Constitutional expert, but it would seem to me that one state taxing the exports of another state is both unconstitutional and against the ideals that our founding fathers put down to keep states from imposing financial harm against another state's people for any reason. - ghatid, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4Lucky bastard, when I was driving through, when I went shopping, it felt like I was walking around in Amazon.com IRL.
- ben72227, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4I'm pretty surprised at how much money Staples is pulling in as well.
- TamerzIsMe, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4You should probably do a little research yourself before talking about things you don't know. Illinois has a state income tax and Chicago also has very high property taxes.
So what tax am I not paying exactly? - Puppetfunk, on 07/07/2009, -1/+5I totally agree. Man, you put the words I couldn't express into a clear and concise post.
- vinod1978, on 07/07/2009, -4/+8I can understand why politicians are taxing e-tailers, like Amazon - but they are doing it the wrong way. Sales taxes do go to good things like schools, police officers, firefighters, etc... and since many Americans are out of work the tax revenue this year is going to be pitiful which will most definitely reduce the amount of services a state can offer to its residents - hence the reason for the adding this tax. The problem is that states are looking out for themselves and not the entire country as a whole. This law will definitely effect the sales that Amazon makes in the nation, and therefore Amazon will pay less federal taxes. The way to solve this issue is to have a percentage of Amazon's federal taxes sent to the states. The accounting is the real problem here, but this is similar to what is being done for US based telecommunications companies, and I believe they can utilize the same system here.
- crash331, on 07/07/2009, -1/+5I'm no Constitutional lawyer, but wouldn't that mean the Federal Government couldn't impose a tax, and not a state?
Like I said, I may be wrong, just asking. - mhaluza, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4FYI California already changed the law on sales tax. It is now officially 9.75%
- Super6, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4You're referring to the FairTax, which is a sort of sales tax. The difference is that, if what the article talks about happens, I, as an ebay seller, would need to tally up the sales I made to each state every month then calculate the tax I owe to each of these states and then pay it.
The FairTax is a different thing all together, it would eliminate all federal taxes and place a tax only on new goods being sold to consumers and shouldn't take any longer than doing sales tax for 1 state because it would be a flat rate instead of different in every state. - theNazz, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4I'm certain that if you push the case hard enough a group of lobbyists can pay our government to retroactively amend the Constitution so that the tax is perfectly legal... if they haven't already done so that is. Either that or the White House shops around for lawyers who can argue the legality of their crimes... it appears to be a working strategy so far.
- zmigliozzi, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4The state with the highest state sales tax is one of the deepest in debt, does anyone else find that hilarious?
- ghatid, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4Well, at least you don't live in California, the only GIANT red state in the whole map...*sigh*
We've had 2 tax increases in the last year, and the state gov't is still not going to have enough money to do all the crap that they don't need to do but do anyways. Meanwhile, the roads are still *****.
After shopping at Amazon, I can't bring myself to buy any electronics in stores due to their extra 10% (well, 9.75% or 9.25%) tax...it's really too bad...I feel bad for California retail stores. - Whackly, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4Dugg for Niven/Pournelle
- c3rb85, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3Yea its only over 9% in places like Los Angeles because they have their own county sales tax as well.
*****, I should of never moved to this horrible state. - Elranzer, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3"then how are states supposed to get money without state income tax?"
Maybe you should ask Texas or Alaska, who don't have state income tax. They're also not going bankrupt like California is. - Flagg3, on 07/07/2009, -1/+4Umm, even in the event that the law is overturned, you wouldn't be entitled to any refund.
You are aware that regardless of whether a retailer is required to collect sales tax, that you are still legally obligated to pay them yourself, right?
Now, I'm not suggesting that anyone should or shouldn't necessarily pay them voluntarily, but you will have a hard time arguing that you are entitled to a refund of the sales taxes that were collected from you because you had planned on not paying them yourself. - missinglink, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3The obscene sales tax in California is one of the main reasons my wife and I decided not to move there. That choice, of course, costs the state thousands in lost revenues. Atlas does shrug, even if it's only in human migration.
- deathandtaverns, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3it's because the people who hate taxes (the rich) buy their luxury items off the internet like books, electronics and DVDs because these are the only things that make sense to ship to you. These are things the poor can't afford and don't have to buy whereas things like clothes and toilet paper, clothing and gasoline have to be bought locally so the poor as well as the rich have to pay taxes on them making the poor spend a larger percentage of their income on taxes. Tax the poor, keep more for yourself.
- Pyros7, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3Because a tax on goods and services is inherently a regressive tax, it hurts the poor to pay an extra couple of cents on everything they buy far more than it hurts the rich.
And if you're baffled as to why they can get away with that...who knows anymore?? The US Constitution expressly forbids one state from taxing the exports of another state (as I posted above, Article I Section IX). If that weren't the case, it'd be far too easy for one state to say, levy a 100% tax on any item purchased in a neighboring state. It doesn't take a genius to realize that such a situation amongst 50 states would lead to nightmare trade wars within the country.
At least, that's my interpretation of it, obviously I must be reading it wrong because it's still happening. - deathandtaverns, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3then how are states supposed to get money without state income tax? If you only taxed in state transactions then ordering goods from out of state would have a large cost advantage right?
- SirBruce, on 07/07/2009, -1/+4The consumer pays the tax, not you. You just collect it.
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