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- JenniferInMO, on 02/08/2009, -8/+44Cable news and right wing blogs are swarming with the revisionist history on the New Deal. Arm yourself against lies, spin and propaganda by reading info from a number of sources. Media Matters is a progressive media watchdog and fact checking organization which has received accolades from numerous sources (except the right wing media which often gets debunked by Media Matters).
- novenator, on 02/08/2009, -7/+36This is typical for the right wing, and honestly they are masters of propaganda. They distort, exaggerate, lie, distract, and spin because the truth is rarely on their side. If all else fails, they attack the messenger with ad hominems.
The truth is (and it's easy to look up) that the New Deal was instrumental in putting people back to work, saving millions from starvation and disease, improving infrastructure, and getting the economy back on track. not everything worked, but FDR honestly assessed the situation and made changes as need be. This is where Obama is taking us, and more power to him for it. The ultra-conservatives had dug a gigantic hole for this country, and we need someone to help up build a ladder to get out of it. - inactive, on 02/08/2009, -6/+33It ALL comes down to "FEAR".... and who is the most fearful bunch of all? (besides the ones that NEVER do any research or check any facts)....
- inactive, on 02/08/2009, -7/+30Tha GOP are masters of spinning, and / or changing, and cherry picking history to support their agenda. One of the biggest lies to date is the Regan myth. He lowered taxes the first year- then raised them over, and over, furthermore, goverment actually grew when he was in office... No doubt they will attempt this with Bush & Dick, well, it won't work. The new deal worked- until FDR slowed it down due to pressure from the same types that are trying to twist, change, and cherry pick history now. This is the GOP'S MO, and should be stoped, and not believed. They created this ***** mess, now they want to decide how to fix it- NOOooo, its time for them to sit back and learn something (fat chance), and let Obama, and the Dem's clean up their mess- again! GOP- ENOUGH, Enough with your games, and lies. Move aside, Obama won, and so did we- incase you have forgotten, because we want change, not your stale old- worn out ideas that have FAILED! Move aside- and stop with the *****!
- Alheithinn, on 02/08/2009, -6/+26All too easy to use statistics to say what you want them to say but citing them "judiciously." Or by taking quotes out of context, as John McCain was famous for doing during the presidential campaign.What the conservatives tend to forget j- or refuse to learn - is that this is a modern, technological world in which data is stored in all sorts of surprising places - text, sound, image, film. We can pull out the full quote, ALL the statistics and we can expose them in their lie.
I suppose it is a game of who can do it faster. What I see as a shame is that the media let's lies pass. They don't challenge even what they know to be untrue. We saw this when Obama was running for president and we see it now. I love Media Matters - what they need is their own cable channel. That way those of us who really want facts and truth could have a place to go to get it. And I want the truth, even if I'm not going to like what I see, because without the truth, how can you make informed decisions? - inactive, on 02/08/2009, -6/+24We all know that conservatives are unrivaled in their ability to cherry pick and distort facts. That Mona Charen would do so in such a brazen manner is no surprise; George Will, I'm a little surprised. Will is the last of a dying breed, a true conservative; Charen is a stupid neocon bitch.
- freedomjoe, on 02/08/2009, -7/+19Ministry of Truth.
THey know they can't win with the facts. - GrandmaSheila, on 02/08/2009, -7/+17They've been attackting FDR since he got elected, and have pretty much undone everything the New Deal accomplished. For a good history of the corporate elites' never ending battle against all this, check out
http://digg.com/politics/The_Fascists_Vs_FDR_Then_ ...
The players are the same families who rule us now, the only difference being, their control is now complete. The Bush family is of course, one of the most blatant.
Check it out. Don't buy the disgusting lies. The reason FDR won FOUR elections was because what he did WORKED, and the people knew it then. - inactive, on 02/08/2009, -4/+12@alais--you still lurking around here?
- inactive, on 02/10/2009, -0/+1
Harry Hopkins as Federal Relief Administrator for FDR on the New Deal:
"We shall tax and tax, and spend and spend, and elect and elect."
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/h/harryho ...
Sound familiar? - 80hd, on 02/09/2009, -2/+3This is like the way that conservatives (for lack of a better term) have been saying Obama's approval is down by half. Which is just a total fabrication and a lame attempt at getting a bandwagon mob together. Somehow Obama going from +14% margin to +7% margin is a fifty percent drop and not a 9.5% drop like it really is since he only moved from 74% to 67%.
but then again, this is the right we are talking about. They will stand on their head and squint through one eye if that's what it takes for them to make the left look ugly. It's really sad that they would rather be 'right' about everything than work toward fixing our issues.
All it seems that they want to do is go back to the trickle-down economy mode and then make sure they have scapegoats lined up for when things go bad. It kinda makes sense actually, the people up top don't want to pay taxes or be responsible for the fact that an economy where 2% of the population owns 60% of the wealth. I bet Rush and Hannity both make a bit more than 250K a year.... - lynchjos, on 02/09/2009, -2/+2Thanks JenniferInMO. I'll check these out.
- lynchjos, on 02/09/2009, -4/+2This is probably way too naive, but what would be wrong with creating an independent agency paid for by use of tax payers' money whose only job would be to fact check and call ***** when politicians distort the facts for political purposes. In the last 10 years, the way Americans get their news and information has become increasingly disparate. I find it frustrating that we can't all get on the same page when it comes to basic truths.
- JenniferInMO, on 02/09/2009, -3/+2I would love that. Factcheck.org does a a great job and it is nonpartisan. Politifacts is pretty good too, but it is operated by a St. Petersburg, FL paper rather than a nonpartisan organization. Both tend to address the same issues, so checking both against each other is helpful.
Media matters does an excellent job as well. It is an admittedly progressive organization so it does tend to focus on the lies by the GOP more often than those of the Dems. - alais, on 02/08/2009, -24/+3http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/15/ ...
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