197 Comments
- tehpwnerofn00bs, on 01/22/2008, -6/+186Those bastards.... I'm already paying over 40k a year for college, the least they could do is let me download a movie or two.
- GeorgeClayton, on 01/22/2008, -0/+128This is our tax payer money! I don't want to pay for schools to police the internet.
- mCanada, on 01/22/2008, -6/+110Nothing like good ol' ass raping college students during a recession! I'm sure this will teach those darn students to stop Kazza'ing and start using "cool new digital download technologies". There's no way AN ENTIRE GENERATION OF TECH SAVVY STUDENTS ARE GOING TO BE REALLY ***** PISSED AT YOUR LABELS FOR THE REST OF THEIR HUMAN LIVES. Hypothetically could you imagine if General Electric sued our grandparents during the great depression and made 20,000 of them loose between $4000 (inflation adj) to $200,000 during that period via extortion? I have a feeling even with it's size GENERAL ***** ELECTRIC wouldn't exist right now.
- PATSCRU, on 01/22/2008, -3/+89I'm paying about the same, but it's not a matter of "letting us download a movie or two"...it's a matter of network neutrality and forcing educational institutions to police their student body in the name of music corporations. Schools are expensive enough as they are, adding law enforcement to the mix is both detrimental to a student's education, and the cost of education in america.
- seldon452, on 01/22/2008, -5/+87Whats that you said? No, say it louder I can't hear you...
***** THE RIAA! oh, and you too congress. - nitsnipe, on 01/22/2008, -0/+76Well, everyone, it's time to seriously learn how to protect your privacy on your own computers at least.
Start using these two programs for a start:
TrueCrypt - Simply the best disk and volume encryption program out there. And it is OpenSource too
XeroBank Browser - Firefox based browser that lets you safely and anonymously browse webpages through the encrypted TOR network. (It would be nice of you to set up your own TOR server if you are savvy enough).
And if you google around, you can find a lot more neat stuff.
There is simply no better way to piss these guys off other than deny them the ability to prove you wrong. - tcardone05, on 01/22/2008, -3/+73You're screwing with the next generation, RIAA. This one knows how to bite back.
- seldon452, on 01/22/2008, -0/+41Its the government. They like your money and your freedom.
- Mordakaida, on 01/22/2008, -0/+29Don't steal dude.. the Government and the MAFIAA hate competition.
- shakestheclown, on 01/22/2008, -1/+30What do they think kids are going to do if colleges stop receiving federal funding?
Stay home and download more music and porn...
The only things that stopped my rampant downloading of music and porn in college were the occasional class or college party. - ReturnToFreedom, on 01/22/2008, -1/+26That's the beauty of having the US government in your pocket. You can do whatever the hell you want and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it. The law is the law, no matter how stupid and immoral it is. You disobey and they will come after you. There's no one we can go to for help and we're just *****.
- mutiger, on 01/22/2008, -0/+24RealID or it costs; RIAA crap or it costs; RFID passport or it costs. i'm really surprised people aren't connecting the dots, yet. Enjoy your facism, USA.
- sezzme, on 01/22/2008, -0/+24Geez... is there ANY way to get the RIAA and the Scientologists to decide they hate each other for some reason?
That would create one wonderful critical mass, legal-wise.
I'd buy the popcorn. - banmaster, on 01/22/2008, -2/+21Yeah, they'd rather have it going towards illegal wars and the rapid destruction of civil liberties and personal privacy rights.
- andycr512, on 01/22/2008, -0/+18You're always there to lend a humorous light to any conversation remotely related to the RIAA.
- aimhelix, on 01/22/2008, -0/+17Somebody got paid...
- DarthSupero, on 01/22/2008, -0/+16You're under the impression that the government rules our lives. The way it should be is we are the ones giving power to the government.
- thedragon4453, on 01/22/2008, -0/+15i have to agree. It seems like the RIAA is trying to kill itself. I mean, *****, its like Helen Keller trying to fight Ali. If I were a college student, I'd put some effort into pirating. Not even ***** I liked, just for the sake of pirating it. You're gonna pay for it anyway.
- TxAggie08, on 01/22/2008, -0/+13I just contacted mine, Congressman Chet Edwards. I simply explained the issue and reminded the Congressman of the 50,000 college students residing at Texas A&M in the middle of his sparsely populated district. I'm going to write this up for the Battalion, our school paper. If this guy ignores our pleas, 50,000 unregistered voters can quickly become 50,000 registered voters. I'm going to make sure a ***** storm of mail hits this guys desk.
- atheinostic, on 01/22/2008, -2/+14Hint: File sharing is not "stealing"
- Todamont, on 01/22/2008, -1/+11***** THE RIAA. ***** THE MPAA. I'm going to go steal music now.
- Lax32, on 01/22/2008, -0/+10I hardly see a coincedence that Napster and ever other subscription plan is failing right now and that the RIAA wants schools to be forced to buy it.
But then again thats typical RIAA... if it doesnt work, go through the legal system. - jkizzle, on 01/22/2008, -1/+11Youve never tried to get your congressman to do something, have you. They simply do all they can to be sure you cant contact them directly.
- StarlessKnight, on 01/22/2008, -1/+10It is their property... the infrastructure of a college's network, however, is not their property. How a college runs their network is none of their business. I'm sure colleges are happy enough, as is, to comply with written notices of detected illegal activity and will assist when evidence shows a student is engaged in such illegal activity. I doubt colleges are particularly interested in becoming the front line of law enforcement for the internet... and "failure" to adequately "comply" in order to protect that property will mean what? The RIAA and MPAA can sue the college for "negligence?"
DRM is a pain in the ass, but at least THEY are putting the copy protection on THEIR property. Albeit some of their DRM junk just so happens to embed itself in OUR property, which they have no right or business messing around with. See, it's OUR's, not THIER's. - mkling176, on 01/22/2008, -0/+9If there's one thing I hate more than politicians it's record label executives.
- stoanhart, on 01/22/2008, -1/+10Just out of curiosity, is $40k/yr the average for college in the States? I go to the University of Victoria. It's not the best school in Canada, but it's amongst the top 10, I believe. Tuition costs me about $5,000/yr (2 semesters); with living expenses, I pay about $10,000/yr. Many programs also offer the Co-Op option, where you get a job placement every second semester, which approximately pays for the next semester.
All in all, I should graduate with a degree in Computer Science, a few years of real life experience, and about $15-20,000 debt. That's a far cry from $40k x 4 = $160,000! Ouch! - PhilLesh69, on 01/22/2008, -0/+8Well, I guess this makes sense. Lots of sense.
Almost as much sense as a law that ties food stamps to a rider that forces grocery stores to track every person's alcohol purchase, and how much they purchase. Or a law that ties telecommunication legislation with a rider that requires cable companies to report which shows everyone watches.
Shouldn't the RIAA be lobbying for copyright protections, and not lobbying to force unrelated institutions to expend their own resources to enforce copyright laws? They might as well lobby to force employers to monitor what their employees download, or internet service providers, or just lobby for a law that lets some governing entity to body cavity searches of every citizen to make sure they aren't hiding a burned CD with copyrighted materials. - lordmike, on 01/22/2008, -1/+9There is only one way to stop RIAA extortion... stop listening to music... period... Don't buy it... don't download it... just walk away... Learn and instrument and make your own music, but don't give the RIAA either the money or the self-satisfaciton that you are somehow their customer anymore.... I pretty much listen to the radio and other free forms of music and that's it... I haven't bought a CD in years, and have never downloaded songs ('cos, with my luck, I know I'll get caught!)... I just don't care about music anymore... I'm tired of the RIAA's crapola. I don't want the RIAA to have any piece of me whatsoever... If a million people did this.... even for only a year... it would kill them... especially if the reasons were made obvious.
- goldfishey, on 01/22/2008, -1/+9I think the point is that RIAA issues shouldn't be tied to college funding. They simply can not police every network out there, so policing college networks or forcing them to self police, is really kind of discriminatory. Piracy is the RIAA's problem, not the colleges.
- TxAggie08, on 01/22/2008, -1/+8True story, file sharing isn't stealing. Oh well, *****'em. My engineering friends and I will circumvent whatever system is put into place. It should takes us a matter of a couple of days. LOL.
- juicebag, on 01/22/2008, -0/+7CRUISE CONTROL FOR AWESOME
- pseudononymist, on 01/22/2008, -0/+7Someone's missing the point
- aliengoods, on 01/22/2008, -1/+8Please, enlighten us to what this is REALLY about.
- LeeSoong, on 01/22/2008, -6/+13Well, while we are at it: How about a Federal Law Capping college tuition to fees that have maximum rate Per Year of what a high school student could earn working full time at minimum wage over the summer?
Universities are Financial Predators - charging outrageously high fees for information that in many cases, is decades old. 60% of University learning could be free .PDF downloads (history, math, basic chemistry and physics - this stuff hasn't changed much for the undergrad students in 10 years.)
Even now a lot of graduate level information is available free on-line...
Universities should only charge what students can afford - lets turn the table on these greedy, waste of time institutions that can't even pretend to promise a job for students when they graduate.
It's about time to bring the government hammer down on Universities endless graft and corruption, and reverse the 1500 % increase in tuition in the past 10 years.
They might as well be charging students a few of their organs for admission... - aigulf, on 01/22/2008, -1/+7Keep in mind that the U.S. schools that are charging $40k are private schools...they get zero federal funding.
EDIT: Not counting federal grants, loans, etc to students to pay those high tuition fees. - banmaster, on 01/22/2008, -0/+6And Frank of course!
- Ghiren, on 01/22/2008, -1/+7Both are good ideas but I've never known anyone to take the trouble to encrypt the part of their drive that they save their pirated music to. It would certainly work though if the RIAA decided to subpoena your hard disk.
XenoBank is a step in the right direction but it only covers your browser. I use a Torbutton extension for normal Firefox for the same effect. What you'd really need is a high-bandwidth, TOR-like anonymizing network that you can route bittorrent and P2P networks through. It's currently possible to route bittorrent through TOR but the bandwidth required is too big and the bandwidth that TOR endpoints have is volunteered. I tried it and it worked but I felt like I was being an ***** to the endpoint owners and stopped.
The best answer for now is probably to use the "force encryption" connection in uTorrent, use PeerGuardian to prevent you from connecting to RIAA machines on P2P networks, and maybe, if you're really paranoid, try moving all of your pirated tunes to a TrueCrypt drive. - numlok, on 01/22/2008, -0/+5How can it be legal to tie public monies to compliance with regulations created and imposed by a private organization?
Is it a common occurrence? It seems straightforwardly bad practice to me... - MacEnvy, on 01/22/2008, -0/+5We don't cotton to your kind 'round these parts. Now GIT!
- SlimFastForYou, on 01/22/2008, -0/+5OK well if you really want to split hairs, let's make a comparison...
One industry sells electricity, the other sells music. Both industries have a vested interest in ensuring their product is scarce. Both industries have tight connections to Washington. Both industries have had challenges to them by people who threatened to remove the scarcity (e.g. Tesla and P2P programmers/users). Both industries attacked said people both in the press and in their pockets. A major difference being that the RIAA has way more moles to whack. - zerofocus, on 01/22/2008, -2/+7They already have a solution to this. College students get free music from ruckus. Why am I getting double dipped?
- Philluminati, on 01/22/2008, -1/+6The RIAA will steal your right to an education because someone somewhere downloads some music. What's more important? Their copyright or your entire future?
- RocketGib, on 01/22/2008, -0/+4This will just cost everyone (including the RIAA) even more money... For example, college students would probably spend more on tuition than on an RIAA/MPAA product. The RIAA fails to realize that money only spends once, and I'm pretty sure most of us in college would rather spend it on something to get a much larger return.
- cigawoot, on 01/22/2008, -0/+4Your pissing off the people who will be later in life hold office in both state and federal office, RIAA. Your also pissing off voters. It may appear that we don't care, but I bet you 10 bucks there will be record turnout in November for the 18-25 crowd.
- Murdats, on 01/22/2008, -0/+4you have redundant qualifications there.
you should use
x==y && x==0
or x==0 && y==0 - zombiedepot, on 01/22/2008, -0/+4What's next mandatory minimum sentences?
- aliengoods, on 01/22/2008, -0/+4Public schools are still costing 10K - 20K, depending on living expenses and the size/quality of the school.
- VeganG, on 01/22/2008, -0/+4Dream on.
- TxAggie08, on 01/22/2008, -0/+4Ruckus sucks, we have it here. You can't do ***** with the music because its so friggin DRM crippled.
- jer2eydevil88, on 01/22/2008, -1/+5If everyone contacts their representatives maybe this bill won't survive!
https://forms.house.gov/wyr/welcome.shtml -
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