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- spookyttws, on 06/24/2009, -1/+32Maybe we can provide Customer Service and Tech support for them.
- badqat, on 06/23/2009, -1/+29FTA - "...prices for the as-yet-unnamed pickups will range from $20,000 to $30,000."
They'd better be damned good light trucks to expect to be purchased here - damned good. When the Japanese arrived, they fought on price, first and foremost. When the Koreans arrived, they fought on price, first and foremost.
And any Indian automaker is going to have to do the same thing - fight based on price, because they can't go up against Toyota, Ford and GM with high priced trucks and no history to back them up. - alamedaman, on 06/23/2009, -5/+23DEY TUK ER JUBS
- inactive, on 06/24/2009, -2/+18Mahindra has established itself as a trusted brand in India & I wish all the luck to them for this new expansion plan. They have fought against giants to establish themselves in India so they are used to beat the strong competition.
- DarkShroud, on 06/24/2009, -1/+15You're not getting it, Toyota, Ford and GM have a proven history with trucks. The F-150, these things sell big because they are so damn easy to maintain. The parts are cheap as hell. GM & Toyota also build solid trucks. GM has 100,000 mile unlimited warranties and the Avalanche & Silvarodos are great trucks.
- stutimandal, on 06/24/2009, -0/+11Pickups will still be needed by businesses. SUV is needed by people who live in mountainous area or in the wild country side. So pickups or SUVs have their own utility. Hating them will not end them.
Riding in an SUV in marketplace is stupid (the stuff is not needed there). Similarly, pickups for home is a stupid and wasteful idea anyway! If you need one of them for two or ten days of a year, just rent it from somewhere. - paulmer2003, on 06/24/2009, -0/+11No, BMW Group owns Rolls Royce.
- PenisBreath, on 06/24/2009, -1/+11Well, India does own Jaguar, Land Rover, and Rolls Royce. I'm not that skeptical
- asnider, on 06/23/2009, -3/+12Hey, if they're good quality, why not? Although, price-wise, they seem comparable to a Ford Ranger or Toyota Tacoma, so I'm not sure if they'll be able to break into the market against well established and trusted brands.
- PenisBreath, on 06/24/2009, -0/+8Thanks for the correction
- MyTakes, on 06/23/2009, -2/+9Why do they think they'll be successful selling SUVs and Pickups? I thought that's what we were all growing to hate.
- charlietuna, on 06/24/2009, -0/+7"The pickup market is one of the most challenging to enter, since the loyalty to Detroit products in this segment is high,"
What excuse will Detroit use if India wins over the pickup segment? I already see a lot of serious looking Toyota pickups on the road. Seriously guys, please don't blow it.
You had over thirty years to read the writing on the wall. - popstation, on 06/24/2009, -3/+10hey buddy this car comes with 3 year warranty... buddy buddy 3 year! buddy it's shiny we are going out of business buddy
- valkyries, on 06/24/2009, -0/+7Isn't a Ranger a light pickup? I love my ranger :D
- sanskrtam, on 06/24/2009, -0/+6I believe this is Mahindra's plan to "sample" the US market and acquire know-hows for their cars in India's own market for autos. Consider the vigorous promotion of Tata's Nano recently, this is likely Indian auto companies' attempt to decrease the foreign auto establishments in the Indian market. (see Maruti 800)
I don't see any problems with this because the purpose seems to be very clear. - sanskrtam, on 06/24/2009, -0/+6And India owns Daewoo Trucks* (South Korea). Now called Tata-Daewoo.
*Not affiliated with GM-Daewoo - inactive, on 06/24/2009, -1/+7The problem with Toyota pickups is they are just serious looking.
If your running a construction fleet with actual, 1 ton plus cargo, Ford still wins out at every yard I've been to. - KloroFormd, on 06/24/2009, -2/+8*coins the term "curry burners" to reference these vehicles*
- stutimandal, on 06/24/2009, -1/+7Wait till you see some of them. They are competing well against Japanese auto-makers in India -- even though India loves goods from foreign countries.
- statdat, on 06/24/2009, -0/+5DERRRRRRJBBBBBB
- mikemehak, on 06/24/2009, -0/+5Purely because Ford is the toughest, biggest truck.
Dodge doesn't hold up in durability. I've been there, they just don't.
But once other bigger truck companies start to enter the market here, it will be over.
A company like Foton Laval could dominate here. Companies like Mitso are now taking over in the medium truck market. As a light dump truck, these things are phenomenally well built, and cheap on fuel. - valkyries, on 06/24/2009, -1/+6DErk ER JB
- protoopus, on 06/24/2009, -0/+4not compared to the mid-70s compact trucks.
i had a 76 toyota and would LOVE to have another.
the modern tacomas are the size of a regular truck from the '70s, and the tundras want to look like a dodge ram (god knows why). - kdor, on 06/24/2009, -0/+4This is the beginning of the walmartization of the car industry in America. I predicted that smugly and capriciously cutting off dealers was going to lead to this. Many of those dealers are decades old. Quite a few were successful. They have mortgages, employees and their families, health care, communities and facilities they cannot just walk away from. They are ripe for Chinese and Indian picking. What do they have to lose. It was not so long ago that Japan overshadowed Detroit. Korean manufacturers followed suit. Their quality ramped up quicker than Japan. The Chinese and Indians will be even faster. There is a definite market for cheap cars no matter the origin. Look at the path other consumer goods have taken. The gov't is intent on ideologically planning the US auto industry which will result in consumers losing products they really want and need, Indians and Chinese will do alright making up the demand.
- soupdawg30, on 06/24/2009, -0/+4What do you do if you need to do any home improvement, or perhaps haul something?
- ted510, on 06/24/2009, -0/+4Indians aren't Arabs.
Buy AMURKAN!! /s - Totenkopf88, on 06/24/2009, -1/+4From your local Flea Market/7-11.
- chetanw, on 06/24/2009, -0/+3Which is exactly what the Americans said when Japanese cars entered the market some time ago
- charlietuna, on 06/24/2009, -0/+3No argument, the F250's and up are impressive, still Toyota must be doing something right, that's all I can say. I recall a lot of hand tools were rubbish if they were imported and not many people seem to care much now.
I'm not defending Toyota, I am defending the buyers who switch. They are doing so for a reason and to ignore why is asking for trouble. - computershack, on 06/24/2009, -0/+3Yeah but they're 2.2 litre, not 5.7 litres and as they're not an American engine design, they'll return excellent fuel economy as well as doing 100,000's of miles.
- waydee, on 06/24/2009, -0/+3In most of the world Toyota is all that matters - Fords offerings outside of the US are not as good as the hilux.
- inactive, on 06/24/2009, -1/+4This will be as successful as the Daewoo USA brand.
/s - howcansheslap, on 06/24/2009, -0/+2that quote seems familiar where's it from?
- boardthis, on 06/24/2009, -1/+3the best advice for these guys is to start into the business vehicle niche and build a good reputation that way with their 2WD products. the private light truck market is dominated by the buyer who wants 4WD reliability in a tacoma, jeep, dakota or ranger.
- cambob76, on 06/24/2009, -5/+7When I think Indian I don't think quality, I think spicy.
- kernel16, on 06/24/2009, -0/+2What ever happened to Jags anyway, I don't see any commercials for them. It's all Audi and BMW now.
- Hillsfar, on 06/25/2009, -0/+2"Perez notes that the Mahindra pickup, while capable of getting 30 m.p.g., will have a payload capacity of 2,700 lb. In comparison, the Toyota Tacoma has a payload capacity of 1,570 lb. and delivers 26 m.p.g."
- cornelje, on 06/24/2009, -3/+5copy that from your econ lecture?
- inactive, on 06/24/2009, -4/+6@if they're good quality, why not?
They won't be. - zslice, on 06/24/2009, -0/+2Creeper420 is not racist. He only wants to buy gas-guzzling American cars so he can suckle Arab teet at the pumps.
- nonymous666, on 06/24/2009, -0/+2- Toyota Tacoma
- Ford Ranger
- Nissan Frontier
- Dodge Dakota (admittedly, it's grown in recent years to border-line proportions. not as big as a full sized Dodge Ram, though.)
- Chevy Colorado (also grown a little large, like the Dodge. Not as big as a Silverado 1500, though.) - tattoojoo, on 06/24/2009, -0/+2So, if you need to call their customer care line, do you get someone from America?
- askantik, on 06/24/2009, -0/+2waydee: a thousand diggs, mate. ***** blaming the unions is retarded. The companies bargained (read: AGREED) to anything the unions are supposed to get. So if the stuff they have to pay for in regards to their employees because of the union is causing them to go under, it's the company's OWN fault because they AGREED to it. That is what a union does. A union doesn't get to make it's own rules and guidelines.
Ugh. - erictheninja, on 06/24/2009, -1/+3I'd love to see some of these light trucks here. Some of the Indian manufacturers have light trucks running on diesel @ 35 mpg and trying to introduce +45 mpg diesel hybrids.
- mikemehak, on 06/24/2009, -0/+2Go figure.
When GM was making model extension proposals for the Silverado called the Texas Squealer, a long bed V8 with no traction control (so they could squeal their tires), these indians companies were ignoring what a bunch of retards on message boards and fan clubs wanted, and making economical, fuel efficient vehicles.' - waydee, on 06/24/2009, -2/+4The US auto industry went to ***** because the cars are AWFUL. I'm not trying to bait anyone into a flamewar by saying that, it's the absolute truth.
The US export market wasn't great because the cars simply didn't sell well abroad and on their domestic market are clearly outclassed by imports from practically every other country. Trying to place the sole blame on a unionised workforce doesn't work, they may have played their part in the downfall but strong unions don't bring down entire industries, see France and Germany.
You'd do well to read up on the British car industry and what caused its demise, but quite simply: poor quality products, outdated products, expensive labour and bad management. Getting the government involved also hastened its demise so I fully expect GM to go the same way at this point. - chetanw, on 06/24/2009, -0/+2Dat's what they said when the Japanese started to sell cars in the US
- DrJG, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1Reminds me of when Japanese cars being successful in US after Japan was pressured into free trade raised a howl - now wto has resulted in opening other countries while the free traders don't like reciprocity. As for quality ford is nowhere near Honda. Hope Swedish do well again, the two were really the best for quality and vfm.
Not easy to comprehend is, why so much outcry about one item or two when the markets across US are flooded with Chinese clothes, shoes, toys, jelly beans, everything - and for a while now too. Not for quality either. - chetanw, on 06/24/2009, -1/+2Or the fat-asses at the local McDonalds
- DrJG, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1It all depends a lot more on where you live too. Pickups are little use in cold weather comparatively, but LA area one is used to seeing pickups, old and decrepit ones too, while northeast is more European and other great cars, sensible and exotic (but anything more luxury than sense such as sporty or Rolls one gets to see more in LA) - and the ubiquitous Toyota and other Japanese of course. Detroit, now, one would be unwise to buy any but local.
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