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- G_Raph, on 10/10/2007, -2/+38Chrysler is desperate right now to get back into the game. A move like this could really help them push some vehicles.
- Conwaysb0718, on 10/10/2007, -3/+35Tommy: Chicken wings! Let's think about this for a sec, Ted, why would somebody put a guarantee on a box? Hmmm, very interesting.
Ted Nelson: Go on, I'm listening.
Tommy: Here's the way I see it, Ted. guy puts a fancy guarantee on a box 'cause he wants you to fell all warm and toasty inside.
Ted Nelson: Yeah, makes a man feel good.
Tommy: 'Course it does. Why shouldn't it? Ya figure you put that little box under your pillow at night, the Guarantee Fairy might come by and leave a quarter, am I right, Ted?
Ted Nelson: What's your point?
Tommy: The point is, how do you know the fairy isn't a crazy glue sniffer? "Building model airplanes" says the little fairy, well, we're not buying it. He sneaks into your house once, that's all it takes. The next thing you know, there's money missing off the dresser and your daughter's knocked up, I seen it a hundred times.
Ted Nelson: But why do they put a guarantee on the box?
Tommy: Because they know all they solda ya was a guaranteed piece of *****. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for now, for your customer's sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality product from me.
Ted Nelson': Okay, I'll buy from you.
Tommy: Well, that's... What? - aserer511, on 10/10/2007, -4/+33if this doesn't save the brand, NOTHING, mark my words NOTHING, will.
- brimg87, on 10/10/2007, -8/+31GM outsells Toyota in Quarter 2...
Ford turns first profit in 7 quarters...
Now this...
Go Detroit! - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+19toyota and honda will keep producing cars that dont need a lifetime warranty... because they dont break
- YSSMAN, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Given the way in which we drive cars in Michigan, this is a stellar program. Being able to buy new, drive it for as long as the car will turn the wheels, knowing that Chrysler will cover (almost) anything that breaks is a very comforting assurance. Granted, its a disappointment that Chrysler won't spend the money to fix the interiors of their cars, but I'd be willing to give up a little bit of quality for knowing that my car will be taken care of as long as I own it.
Now, lets see what GM and Ford does... Furthermore, what Toyota and Honda will do... - djSyndrome, on 10/10/2007, -8/+20The last Chrysler product I purchased - a new '95 Neon - ate through two transmissions and burned a piston in 12,000 miles of light driving. I don't think *any* warranty would convince me to deal with those kinds of headaches again.
- garbs, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Why would you even buy a PT Cruiser?
- asaturn, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10I would still buy a Honda.
- djSyndrome, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Everyone who purchased a Chrysler vehicle last weekend is going to be pissed.
- allaboutdatiki, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Now if they would just stuff Mercedes diesel engines into the domestic Grand Cherokee and Commander ... I might just bite the bullet. Woodgrain trim would push me over the top.
Mopar's SUV gas mileage needs a boost:
http://www.mpgomatic.com/best_gas_mileage_suv.html - MattInChicago, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Come on people! Amazing people can still find reason to bitch about a company extending its warranty! Well this is Digg I guess. What do you want "lifetime of the vehicle" and that would be what? When it breaks? I guess you all want a "forever warranty" heh? uh huh...and I want a pony!
For those that keep cars an extended period and might have otherwise bought the extended plans, this saves them $$$$. If they want something transferable they can still do that too. Otherwise it's a good move that may only benefit a few does help differentiate them from the rest. I've never owned their cars myself but I do like their design focus and willingness to take chances with design. I think the entire market is better for it. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9My car is on 12 years, 205,000 miles, 30 MPG. It's a Toyota, though.
- bigj9901, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10They need it. Chrysler's transmissions are know for being POS, atleast in my book anyway.
- betterth, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Wonderful -- just what the UAW needs to prove the companies don't need concessions, they'll refuse and force the companies into the ground before eight more quarters are up! Lol.
- djSyndrome, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6There is no such thing as a '94 Neon. All Neon's that started rolling off the assembly line in early 1994 were called '95s, making the '95 model year almost two calendar years long. Lots of car companies do this now, but it was pretty novel back then.
I had nothing but problems with my Neon and dumped it for a Honda Civic, but in all fairness, my girlfriend at the time had a Neon as well and had zero problems with it for years. - dakboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Actually there's a tag on the driver's door jamb. It has a big barcode on it and lots of other stuff. Near the top you'll see an item labelled "MDH" - it stands for the Month, Day and Hour the car rolled off the line. You have to infer the year based on the model year of the vehicle.
A dealer can also run the VIN for you and pull up a tremendous amount of data.
Due to how shifts are run at auto plants the last 10-15 years, you can't really go by the "don't buy a monday/friday car" rule anymore. You can get a bad one made any day. - djSyndrome, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Hyundai does not have a lifetime warranty; powertrain is 10y/100k miles. http://www.hyundaiusa.com/global/warranty/warranty.aspx
RTFA. Or for god's sake, at least read the summary. - winmywii, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5300m is an ugly bubble. The new 300 and 300c are nice. I drove the 300 touring and I like the cadillac CTS better. They offer manual in the 300c.
- etx313, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5You Sir, Are an Idiot.
- fotodevil, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I just bought a 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee 2 and a half months ago and I am pissed. I find it obnoxious that they wouldn't cover the entire model year. Oh well.
- asaturn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5the Sebring uses the same Mitsubish-based design used in Hyundai, KIA, and Suzuki cars... not the current design Chrysler is guaranteeing.
- elvenseven, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7Reminds me of the xbox360
- ramside, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7Great chance for Chrysler and their dealers to build confidence in their brands. We seem to hear only the bad news from others, how about a 94 Neon that only required basic maintenance and one warranty repair (head gasket and head bolts @ 32,000 miles) and is still running fine at 122,000+ miles including original clutch!
- twstokes, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4According to a Jeep dealer on this forum there will be an option to purchase the plan at a discounted rate for the next 60 days. http://jk-forum.com/showthread.php?t=12623&page=2
- macfanboi, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5They will be replacing a lot of Jeep transmissions for free.
- Aard88, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I've had really good luck with Chrysler/Dodge vehicles. Our 2000 Intrepid R/T has almost 100,000 miles and the only thing that has broken is a window motor (replaced under warranty). We did just buy an '07 Dodge Caliber wish we would have known about this warranty before, we would have waited, but maybe we wont need it anyway.
- n8r0n, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Because, now you may find this hard to believe, not everyone has the same taste in cars.
- yaazz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3So does this mean as long as I buy new, I can drive the balls off a hemi and when it breaks chrystler foots the bill?
- 0xbaadf00d, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"The new Chrysler Lifetime Powertrain Warranty applies to most new Chrysler, Jeep® and Dodge vehicles purchased from dealer inventory and delivered on or after July 26, 2007."
Sorry. - spdowling, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3screw the environment, gimme a hemi
- satanatnmtedu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I had my last car for 17 years. It still got better gas mileage than 90% of what is on the market.
- s1mph0ny, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Chrysler has had quite reliable power trains for a while. I've got a first model 87 dakota with 300k miles on it sitting in the yard right now, drive train in perfect condition. The only repair that has been made AFAIK was changing the universals (something that took a few hours of my time, and some $30 in parts).
Some of their vehicles aren't as stellar. Like the minivan rubberband transmissions. 60k on them. - Error601, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3That's actually pretty smart. The power train of any modern car generally last several hundred thousand miles which is far longer than the average new car own keeps a vehicle.
- thcobbs, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4So, how much more is this going to cost on new vehicles? Or are they expecting people to trade them out within 3-5 years?
- rfolkerts, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Thats just a ***** dealer, the dealer isnt losing any money from corporate by fudging the warranty and is making a customer happy, thus creating repeat customers.
- rotten777, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4The grammar coming out of your parent's child's keyboard is the worst piece of the English language I ever read.
- theholycow, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I didn't see any details. However, it will work similarly to other long-term warranties and service plans:
1. Leasing is pretty popular these days, so most won't have the vehicle for long.
2. Most people who do buy WILL trade them within 3-5 years.
3. A major portion of the remaining people will invalidate the warranty by not perfectly following all of the rules (bringing it in for the 5 year checkup as said in TFA, as well as properly documenting oil changes and other maintenance)
4. It might require scheduled maintenance, or indeed all service, to be done by dealers; the added business will more than pay for the costs. However, it is illegal in many states to invalidate a manufacturer's warranty for service done by independent companies.
5. The warranty will be very specific in what it covers, and they really won't have to do much work under the warranty.
6. The success stories from people with 600,000 miles and no major repair costs will generate much good will and sell many vehicles.
It's really good marketing. It sounds much more risky than it is, making them look very confident in the longevity of their vehicles, and is a big selling point that in most cases won't have to be delivered.
Even knowing all that, it's effective on me. Chrysler will now be included in my next new vehicle search; they've gained a possible new customer, because I'd never have considered one before. - Error601, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Uh no, the issue is reputation and not quality. There is little to no difference in quality between modern new cars at the same price level.
- golemShed, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I can only speak from personal experience, but once i have a nice car, the only thing, aside from wrecking it, to get me to get a new car is if the powertrain is crapping out.
This means i can buy that 300m and rod it into the ground again and again. If they offered a manual transmission version of that car, i'd go out today and buy one now. The last car i'll ever need to worry about. No matter what, it runs like a dream for all time. - asimo8, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3A longer warranty doesn't necessarily mean that the quality is any better, atleast in the automotive industry. Notice that the most reliable vehicles with the highest resale value have the shortest warranties.
- theholycow, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3BTDT. Stick with it and don't let it go. Escalate as necessary. It's wrong to allow them to stiff you.
- trejrco, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I have a 97 Wrangler that is wheeled hard (on and off road) ... still on original clutch @ 170k miles :).
- zip22, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3yeah, lifetime warranties can be slippery. i had a similar experience with the 'lifetime warranty' on a tent. the warranty was for the lifetime of the tent (something like 5 years), not the owner.
- jdc760, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4It's 2007. Perhaps they have made significant changes in 12 years?
- aserer511, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2in reply to djsyndrome, we had a 96 neon way back when and,....no major issues, so...mixed bag.
- brad3378, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2you're absolutely right - the quality is basically the same no matter what you buy. Even the worst vehicle brands on the road aren't very far behind the best in the latest quality surveys.
Al things being equal (and they basically are), I'd choose the vehicle with the best warranty. - Rizzy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Well I personally like the Jeep brand and this is great news to hear considering I just bought an '07 Jeep Grand Cherokee this past weekend and I will be calling my dealer to make sure I'm covered under this new warranty. This is my third Jeep that I've owned and have never had any serious problems with any of them, my last being a '97 Cherokee and I bought it in '03. The only issue I had with it (which I heard is common on Jeep models) is the A/C system leaking freon.
- digggggggggg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+23% of the cars will be rejected because they were "filthy",
5% of the cars will be rejected because they had 'dangerous chemicals' in the upholstery,
8% of the cars will be rejected because wrought iron, a cheap substitute for steel was actually used in the frame
Finally, a few thousand pets suffer permanent kidney damage by inhaling the melamine laced air inside the cars.
Way to go, Chinese QC... way to go... - s1mph0ny, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2That's funny. I imagine you would check a line date by the VIN number?
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