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- JeremyBanks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+41Nope, I'm Canadian, he's just Retarded.
- EochaidRiata, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25The last 120 seconds still takes 15 minutes to play with 5 timeouts, 10 fouls and four commercial breaks.
- nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Not to mention us crafty canucks invented basketball. (had to get that in there)
- beefwellington, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12:'(
- kaytrio, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9That was a surprisingly interesting story. I never knew so much thought went into those 24 little seconds.
- AlexApetrei, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6that's one long article about 24 seconds,
Here's the sum up , in less than 24 seconds:
Game became borign because players where hogging the ball
dude figured out that something had to be put in place in order to stop this,
he introcuces time rule ... the 24 seconds per possesion
Figure is achived by dividing game time by optimal shot amount.
Everyone now enjoys fast paced B-ball.
Hurrah . - stomicron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I don't know why Grimdotdotdot is getting modded down.
While I doubt anyone knew the history of the rule, the reason for it should be obvious to any sports fan--it's the same reason for the five second rule, or the play clock in football.
What else would it be for? - stomicron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"something i hope alex and kevin say is a waste of time"
Eagerly awaiting the verdict of your masters while hanging on their every word makes you the loser. - callinthelaw69, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4A game where a team takes 60 shots? Good luck seeing that in the NBA today. Most of the teams in the league with high-powered offenses (Denver, Phoenix, Seattle, etc.) take at least 80 shots a game. But it makes for damn good entertainment.
- nfph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Um... activating the no ***** meter. Not many fans actually know this?
- stomicron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The rest of the world moves slower. ;)
- djrtitan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2
Here's all you have to read:
"The answer is that Danny Biasone, the aforementioned owner who pushed for the adoption of the 24-second rule, based his proposal upon his observations, experience, and simple arithmetic. In Biasone's judgment, basketball was most exciting when it was neither a stalling contest nor a wild shootout, but a well-paced game in which team took 60 shots apiece. Since professional basketball games were 48 minutes long, Biasone divided 2880 (the number of seconds in 48 minutes) by 120 (the total number of shots taken per game when each team attempted 60 shots) and arrived at an optimal figure of one shot every 24 seconds. From such a simple formula came a change that completely reinvigorated professional basketball, a rule it is now hard to imagine the game ever did without." - protez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is quite interesting mathematics.
But how the revolutionary proposal at that time was sanctioned in the first place is more interesting politics. - mj14, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The reason why the NBA became so popular and interesting is because of 1 man and 1 man only.
Michael Jordan.
but anyway, I didn't know that stuff about the shotclock and where it originated from. Pretty interesting article.. - CarbonX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Googling turned up that Naismith's rules orginally stated two 30 minute halves with a five minute break. I always guessed that 4 12 minute quarters were TV related, but that's been the format since the NBA formed in 1946. However, in 1949 there was a movement to reduce the games to 40 minutes. My guess is that they felt it was easier to hold fan interest with shorter games.
- merdiesel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If your a fan of basketball you already know this. LAME.
- Grimdotdotdot, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Seriously, though - who didn't know this already?
- hansamurai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1FOUR CORNERS!
- Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5probably something to do with the seeming distaste americans hold for round numbers
why else would you lag behind the rest of the world in converting to metric - gameguy43, on 10/12/2007, -13/+14admittedly it IS an interesting fact, but its way too long of an article. heres the synopsis:
the reason is that it makes the game more exciting and fast-paced
there used to be problems with the game being too slow and the ball not moving enough. they added the time limit and made the court bigger, and boom, game is exciting, people watch, free chalupas with your ticket stubs if they win by 10 points. - kirakun, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Ok, great. The arithmatics makes sense. But why is the game 48 minutes and not something else "rounder" like 60 or 40?
- dmoney22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1High shot percentage + more shots = more points = more wins = more $
- flipside3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There's a difference between a sport played by real people (for fun or competition) and one meant for the mass consumption by a TV audience. I think you'll find plenty of "artificial rule changes" in the latter.
- stomicron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Any suggestions, wise guy?
- Ignignokt01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Here's the answer to the question posed by the title, since the article beats around the bush just to answer the damn question:
"What's so special about the 24 seconds?
The answer is that Danny Biasone, the aforementioned owner (of the NBA's Syracuse Nationals franchise) who pushed for the adoption of the 24-second rule, based his proposal upon his observations, experience, and simple arithmetic. In Biasone's judgment, basketball was most exciting when it was neither a stalling contest nor a wild shootout, but a well-paced game in which team took 60 shots apiece. Since professional basketball games were 48 minutes long, Biasone divided 2880 (the number of seconds in 48 minutes) by 120 (the total number of shots taken per game when each team attempted 60 shots) and arrived at an optimal figure of one shot every 24 seconds. From such a simple formula came a change that completely reinvigorated professional basketball, a rule it is now hard to imagine the game ever did without. " - bpapa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Although I knew why the clock was implemented, Digg because I never knew where the actual number 24 came from.
- mooninite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"AMAZING NEW FACTS ON HOW TO USE THE TOILET"
Based on this article, I predict that this will be a future report on digg. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, I don't think many fans knew the specific "48 minutes divided by 120 shots = 24 seconds per possession" for the ideally entertaining game thing. Most fans know the general reasoning behind the shot clock, and that it wasn't always a part of the game, and so on.
- vze2wnv2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Boy, the writer of this article needed an awful lot of words to boil down to the simple fact that without a clock the game was too slow and boring.
- doofis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What I want to know is why basketball games everwhere else the world use a 30 sec clock, and not 24? Us non-Americans are always being told that Amercians are always rushing, always in a hurry, have short attention spans etc. Is this more evidence? ;-)
- krozall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Great find, everything all together in one place.... Sooooo good...
Thanks! - xoqfl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Jordan is done though, but I definitely agree; many players that have increased in talent have done so because they have compared themselves to him. Of course, I think nobody will be great as him.. no matter how much money they can get..
- Thorz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I didn't.
- steveyi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"A fact that not many fans of the game know?" What guy in Mongolia who's never played the game couldn't figure out that the shot clock was created to increase the pace of the game?
- xoqfl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0the main reason is cus so many players are poor sports. say, a team is down 20 pts but they STILL foul and slow the game down like crazy.. so pointless. hah
- akashra, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2When I was coaching Under 12s years ago, it was mandatory that teams played man-to-man defense in the first half. In the lower grades though, teams couldn't cope with playing aginst zones even though the defense were allowed - and in 99% of cases, the only zone they knew how to play offence against was a standard 2-3 zone.
The solution was simple - teach them a number of other zones (box+1, t+2, half/full-court press) and they were just left bafled.
I've since stopped coaching, and since then they've changed the rules - players at that age are now required to play man-to-man defense for the entire game. But even through to Under 21s, I never had to play using a shot clock - so of course we could hold back if we wanted to play dirty. - tjlsmith, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I didn't - but that's because I'm Canadian and Don Cherry never explained it to me.
- ajifans, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1If a sport is good enough in itself, then it doesn't need any artificial rule changes.
- Toy0, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1It usually doesn't.
- flipside3, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I wish a rule change could be made for soccer (yes, I'm in the US) and hockey to push the scores up and add some excitement. My suggestion is to remove the goalies... at least for one period of the game.
- dmoney22, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2that's why basketball has more viewers than hockey.
- RexKwando, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I thought this was common knowledge?!
- zetamilk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0What they need to work on is all the foul shots at the end of the game slowing it down.
- djgump35, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I know I read about this in SI. Sad that the new generation is missing things like this. How can you really appreciate what you're watching if you don't know how good all that came before were?
- CarbonX, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1...
- CarbonX, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0...
- UrlorJkron, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3Yeah, I think high school leagues need to adopt a simialar rule. I played in the pep-band and witnessed many "stall ball" games.
- GrendelT, on 10/12/2007, -13/+6My high school team actually did this in a tournament.
The other team couldn't hold us man-to-man, so they went zone. We spread out and held the ball, forcing them to come to us. We won, and the opposing team was pissed off completely. - theken, on 10/12/2007, -10/+0oh ya, well you're fat.
- ScottJG, on 10/12/2007, -21/+4Let me just guess... Canadian? ;)
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