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- Desolite, on 11/11/2007, -3/+32Populations:
U.S.: 303,327,293
China: 1,321,851,888
% of US Population watching the Superbowl = ~30.5%
% of China Population watching this NBA game = ~15.1% - peeinian, on 11/11/2007, -3/+31I believe there are a few more people living in China than in the US.
- CCoe, on 11/11/2007, -4/+21Are you kidding me!? ~15% of the ENTIRE Chinese population is going to watch ONE regular season basketball game? I think that's WAY more impressive than 30.5% of the American population watching the bloody Superbowl!
- trer, on 11/11/2007, -0/+11It's not even on national television here in America.
- BrewBeau, on 11/11/2007, -1/+10Good point. Although, I bet the percentage of tv's to homes is lower in China.
- dext3r, on 11/11/2007, -1/+9You're irrelevant on the big world stage, too, so shut up.
- Starflyer59, on 11/11/2007, -0/+8Watch him play or at least check his stats before you post. He's doing fine for a rookie and has certainly scored more than a point or two.
- Desolite, on 11/11/2007, -2/+9Why are you so angry? You have 5 comments here all bashing the US because they like football... so what? The main reason it isn't watched world wide is because it isn't a world sport like the rest that you mention which are played in the Olympics and leagues around the world. All you are doing is proving that the article is sensationalist trying to compare a world-scale sport to a country-wide sport. Flame on man, flame on.
- Jambi, on 11/11/2007, -0/+7Well apparently that had a lot more to do with his agent and former team (which still held his rights before he signed an NBA contract, and had veto power over it) than it did with Yi himself.
- Rahodeb, on 11/11/2007, -2/+9It's an invalid comparison. The world cup is played by teams representing their countries from around the world. NBA is an American (and 1 Canadian) team sport, so the ratings are worth comparing to another American team sport.
The point of that comparison is to show how big an international audience the one has over the other. - Jambi, on 11/11/2007, -1/+8Oh please, don't judge the NBA by a few jackasses. For every player like Stephon Marbury or Steve Francis, you've got a Deron Williams or Steve Nash. The problem with the NBA is simple: inflated salaries and a huge dilution of talent thanks to the expansion teams of the late 80s and early 90s. (also the Bobcats, but they were formed after this whole trend had had its effect on the league)
- slonrgjon, on 11/10/2007, -6/+12Dude, Yi's gonna suck and the Rockets are gonna win. Now you dont have to watch.
- LogicBomB, on 11/10/2007, -1/+7My Wife is huge into Basketball and after she explained it to me there is actually quite a bit to it - expecially in the last few minutes. The problem is, to anyone not "in the know" it's just a bunch of people running back and forth.
If you want to actually TRY to see what the appeal might be, try watching college-level basketball. That is how Pro basketball SHOULD be - people working like a team for their ***** points and hussling their asses off. Not like NBA where you take the ball, pass it to your main shooter and repeating 5 dozen times. The difference is really night and day.
That being said, I'm still not a fan. - shaffan33, on 11/13/2007, -3/+9I am an avid NBA fan, and I am shocked at how people in America have viewed it recently. the 60s, 70s were the worst years of the sport, and it gradually got better and better until about 1992, where the play really slowed down. However, this is when the sport was the most popular. After Jordan retired, the league was still in the downward stages game play wise, and has recently (last five years) gotten better and better while people in America have watched less and less. All the criticism I hear about it is without merit.
"Ohh they don't play defense"- Spurs, Pistons have played better defense then anyone in NBA history
"It's all a bunch of thugs"- Number wise, NFL arrests are way higher
I think racism plays a big part as to why the NBA ratings are down in the US. NFL has a good amount of white superstars to look to, but the NBA has no white American superstars. - LucasKane, on 11/11/2007, -1/+6Sensible Logic gets a digg
- urbandistrict, on 11/10/2007, -1/+6You are as right as you are a complete idiot. The irony.
- urbandistrict, on 11/09/2007, -1/+6I am an avid (soccer/futbol & basketball) fan and player, but I have to disagree with that statement. NFL Football is far more complex than both of my favorite sports. There are sets of teams and an entire list of plays for both offense and defenses to counter. Not just your set 11 or 5. Each player is specialized and they are completely focused on their specific task after the play is initiated. The sport is both is fun to watch and to play as well. Football is not only a battle between the physical fitness of both squads but also a battle of wits between the coaching staff.
There is no "better" sport. There is only personal preference.
Anyone remember the Barça Dragons? I would have loved to see the Euro teams incorporated into the NFL. - adrenaline33, on 11/11/2007, -2/+7Ha ha your third post about how much you hate football, did you get beat up as a kid or something?
- petebot, on 11/09/2007, -1/+5"hence its lack of popularity as a spectator sport"...except in America, where it is very popular as a spectator sport.
- hydroplane, on 11/09/2007, -0/+4We should export the NBA to China to pay them back for all the lead paint and poisoned dog food.
- bakingoven, on 11/10/2007, -0/+4You sound like a boring guy from your comment.
- mfpratte, on 11/10/2007, -4/+8i would like to see a comparison to the ratings for the world cup final before i am amazed by that number
- inactive, on 11/11/2007, -2/+6I guess this is coming from someone who has never seen a football (let alone an NFL) playbook. Simple minded, which is why most of the people playing the game professionally have college degrees (I will certainly concede that the quality of many of those might be suspect).
- Rahodeb, on 11/11/2007, -0/+4They also care how much they can sell that advertising for. Rates probably vary from market to market and 1 billion chinese viewers might only equal the revenue of 10 million US viewers.
- Robbothehood, on 11/11/2007, -1/+5Football has blatant strategy because of the stoppage in play. There's certainly going to be more organization in each play when you only have to consider a 20 second motion as opposed to a dynamic play. In sports such as basketball you not only have to think of a way to break the defense, but the team has to create the opportunity themselves through positioning, feinting and skill. This level of play is almost completely removed from football, where plays can be set before the game resumes. Football has more strategy occurring during a set play, but the unique skill required to create those opportunities within the flow of a game is removed. The players themselves are also far more responsible for plays made, whereas football has two people dedicated to coordinating plays for the offense and the defense. You don't appreciate the skill involved in basketball, but it's still there. You don't have to belittle the sport with your opinion.
- reed311, on 11/11/2007, -0/+3Sure they do. The younger demographics are the most desirable as they are what advertisers most want to reach.
- synwolf, on 11/11/2007, -1/+4Of the 94% who are Han Chinese ethnicity in China, most of them can't understand each other in their native dialects...there are 64 recognized minorities in the rest of the 6% of the population (which is about 84,000,000 people, no small number).
Try not to espouse completely ignorant, or at the best, hopelessly vague opinions. - ausfahrt, on 11/11/2007, -4/+7TV corporations don't care who's watching ... it's just numbers to them.
- Starflyer59, on 11/11/2007, -0/+3Maybe you shouldn't get all your basketball from Sportscenter?
- nospinhere, on 11/11/2007, -0/+3You're right, they don't give a ***** about demographics. Never seen the viewing public broken down by something like 18 - 49 year olds, ever.
- inactive, on 11/09/2007, -1/+4"By comparison, last week's New England-Indianapolis game in the NFL drew an average audience of about 34 million. Last year's Super Bowl drew an average of 93 million."
Can someone please explain to me how you get the "average" with an n of 1? Sure, you could divide by 1, but that isn't really an AVERAGE (mean), which is a measure of central tendency. As an aside, I thought the NFL touted how 1 billion people from around the world watched the Superbowl. That is far more impressive considering the game is played primarily in North America. - ghunt, on 11/09/2007, -0/+3not even close, it's rating were 1/5 of the superbowl, and about 30-40% of america watches the superbowl.
- inactive, on 11/09/2007, -1/+4First off Izacus and nwave, I said " I thought the NFL touted... 1 billion." And guess what *****...
they did, and they continue to...
http://www.azsuperbowl.com/become_sponsor.aspx
Next, and oddly enough counter to your claim, countries from all over the world broadcast the superbowl and send journalists to cover it. So, because you don't care about it, doesn't mean NO ONE cares about it. Survey a random 100 housewives from around the US and you would assume that no one watched the Superbowl.
Further, I couldn't care less if the Superbowl is dwarfed by World Cup (which isn't a SINGLE matchup of two teams anyway), the Olympics, Cricket, or any other sporting event. WHO CARES! Finally, my post about the actual audience size was mentioned as an aside, so Izacus, extract your head from your exithole. - 7levels, on 11/11/2007, -5/+8Almost 30% percent of Americans watched the Patriots/Colts game.
- Starflyer59, on 11/11/2007, -1/+3Yes, American football is irrelevant because an some soccer freak on the internet says so. Ok then.
- Grizza, on 11/10/2007, -0/+2Yao is the best center in the NBA, and Yi looks like he'll be a superstar in a few years. Neither of them suck. Simple as that.
- Robbothehood, on 11/11/2007, -2/+4I think he's just frustrated that the Super Bowl purports itself o be the biggest television event of the year, with 1 billion viewers, but in reality it's behind the world cup, and has a viewership closer to 100 million than a billion. The United States tends to declare national records and world records, simpler sure, considering how hard it would be to canvas the whole world, but you're going to need an asterisk next to a world record if you only checked North Americans.
- kidmaninwar, on 11/10/2007, -1/+3you are late for the klan meeting
- humanerror, on 04/03/2008, -3/+5So, just to be clear, you like to see grown men running around a grassy field wearing knee-socks and short shorts?
- reddfox321, on 11/10/2007, -0/+2I know why: you're an idiot.
- Rahodeb, on 11/11/2007, -0/+2I think it's just more anti-everything-US bullcrap. What kind of headline would "Yao vs. Yi matchup is going to be almost 1% of world cup audience!". That is a bad comparison and gives no useful benchmark to the audience.
- flippedcracker, on 11/09/2007, -3/+5"In China, Friday night's game between the Milwaukee Bucks and Houston Rockets game is expected to draw more than 200 million viewers in China."
i guess it has something to do with China - inactive, on 11/11/2007, -2/+4People play soccer around the world because it costs almost nothing to play. A ball and an open area is about all you need to get started; ou can make a goal out of just about anything, a couple of trees or stones will do. The prevalence of poor around the world makes soccer a popular activity simply because of its lack of expense. Hence, it too becomes a part of the culture.
- Jambi, on 11/10/2007, -1/+3Which is why I'm a bit leery as to his talent level too, but from all that I've heard about the whole holdout situation, he had nothing to do with it. (that still says nothing about whether he'll end up being great, decent, or a Kwame Brown-sized flop)
- inactive, on 11/09/2007, -0/+2That still wouldn't be an average. A sample MEAN can be used to extrapolate a population MEAN, but there is no MEAN (average) here. An average can be used as an estimate, but an estimate does not have to be a mean. The person posting it made an error, plain and simple.
- gruvsf, on 11/09/2007, -1/+3then you probably won't ever understand it if you have never played it
- legendxx, on 11/10/2007, -0/+1it's all about believing
- Starflyer59, on 11/09/2007, -1/+2Most people inside of the US don't care about soccer, and most can't name any soccer players, past or present. So deal with it and go riot or whatever it is you soccer hooligans do.
- inactive, on 11/10/2007, -0/+1Will things change? Vote here...
http://www.floort.com/?fid=50 - JamesBond, on 11/10/2007, -0/+1Someone must have been not been that good at math. lol
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