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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+55The guy who called him a monkey has actually done a lot to try and rectify the situation... the last paragraph in the article says that he wrote an apology to Mutumbo saying he wouldn't attend a game untill Mutumbo told his team it was ok, and that he'd donate $5000 to a charity of his choice.
Perhaps in this case the guy was calling Mutumbo a monkey because of how clumsy he was with the ball, not because he was black. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+44how the hell can you like basketball and be a racist- 90% of the players are black!
- PPoff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31UPDATE: Reached late today, Hamzehloui, the man who screamed the racial slur, a Windermere resident and realtor, said he didn't know "using the word 'monkey' was bad."
- nixonrichard, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28People call Bush a "monkey" all the time! Those racist bastards!!!
- uttles, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26Ever stop to think that insults are just insults and they don't mean racism? I have black friends that call me cracka ass cracka and they are just joking around. Even if they weren't, I don't give a *****.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25lol, monkeys
- pooslinger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z7dnGtNd8U
Clerks II - Rickler, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Isn't the definition of racism "to believe certain races have superior qualities then others"? Most players in the NBA are black.
- sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Ok, go to an all black neighborhood and start calling everyone a monkey. Then come back and tell us the reasons why they were offended and kicked the crap out of you. Monkey can obviously be used in many non-racist ways, but it is a slur in certain contexts. It goes back a long ways.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20two wrongs doesn't make a right
- sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12It doesn't sound like this guy was being blatantly racist, more like a heckler who was probably several beers deep and just had an awkward slip of the tongue.
That said he should watch his mouth, Mutombo is a total class act who does a lot of good things
http://www.dmf.org/index2.html - somnus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Backwards:
You don't know a lot of monkeys that can speak one language, let alone nine :)
(I do this all the time and feel like a right twit) - steelmaverick, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19And they all run faster and jump higher than all the white players, thus making black people the superior race.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Trying to apply logic to this won't work. "monkey" IS deemed by many to be a racist term. It's all about interpretation of the word, not it's Webster definition.
- Aeiri, on 10/12/2007, -8/+18If the racial slur he's allegedly said is supposed to be "porch monkey", how is "monkey" even equivalent to that?
I don't understand how "monkey" is a racial slur... - Eeqmcsq, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14If only human behavior can be reduced to math equations.
- sonicdeath, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10I am a huge basketball fan...and i was asking myself the same thing? I'm sure it will reach the point that International Soccer has.
- daedalus1982, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@ajck
I don't know where you're from. Arse and the u in color i'm guessing UK. In the US it's a pretty commonly used racial slur. Either way the man was probably more angry at his playing than how "offensively colored" he is. Its beside the point. it offended and was construed a certain way. now he has to pay the piper. simple - vhold, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I love the fact that it makes such a huge difference whether or not it's a racist slur.
You can insult people as long as it's personal and has nothing to do with virtually any aspect of their except their race or sex. To do that would make you a terrible person.
That to me pretty nearly sums up the whole of the insanity that is political correctness. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Focus and pay attention please.
- Silencer7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6When Luol Deng was playing for Duke, some sports writer made some comment about his 'orangutan arms' --intending it to be complimentary--and that sparked a huge *****.
- maxium, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6This is nothing. You guys should watch some European soccer sometimes. "Fans" have been known to making monkey noises and throwing bananas on the field when players of African decent have the ball.
"Monkey" is a racist slur... and you'd have to be an idiot to try this in a game dominated by African-American players. The 'Fan' might have been removed for his own protection.
~M - vhold, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"i just wish black people would stop going off on a hair trigger, because the ones who are using racist slurs on you know that they can get you riled up, and they will keep on doing it. you have to use the psychological theory of extinction. ignored behavior usually doesn't get repeated."
Quoted for truth. - sp1keNARF, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9he prefers macaca.
- sabotank, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Dikembe Mutumbo's from the congo......monkey is not a polite thing to call someone down there
- daedalus1982, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7see above, and it is.
- rosefivefold, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4i love being called a monkey. no, really. i am small, brown, agile, i like to climb trees, and i will take a crap in my hand and fling it at you if you go live on me. so there. being mixed, i get called "cracker" by the blacks, and "*****" by the whites, and also dothead and sandnigger...."dyke" when i'm in comfortable shoes and "bitch" when i am outspoken. you know what, i just wish black people would stop going off on a hair trigger, because the ones who are using racist slurs on you know that they can get you riled up, and they will keep on doing it. you have to use the psychological theory of extinction. ignored behavior usually doesn't get repeated. oh and, since i don't feel like starving myself and vomiting all the time..."fat bitch!" you know, you guys are not the only people on the planet that take ***** every day for what you are. toughen up and stop whining.
- stylerm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6your comment may be considered passive racist by implying minorities are violent, unless you are the one shooting racist people.
- benitojuarez, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5you ignorant bastards saying cracka this and cracka that and rich white guy...
Hooman Hamzehloui
does that sound like a "cracka" name?
Yeah thats what I thought. - umdigger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4They can hire Ron Artest as NBA security to kick asses and take names.
- mutatron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4What about racists living in northern states, or racists in California? You sound mighty bigoted yourself.
- ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I bet he ain't even racist, just wanted to provoke. And getting angry about it is pretty lame as well.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15KgyXBX24 - Silencer7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3...on that note, are there any other words that shouldn't be used for other races?
- reed311, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Dikembe is fluent in nine language! I don't know many monkeys that can speak nine languages, let alone one language.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Many black soccer players in Europe have encountered people calling them a monkey, and several including Thierry Henry have picked up the ball and threatened to walk off the field mid-match because of it. They still have lots of neo-nazis in some countries in Europe.
The reference is obviosly to their African heritage. - alarm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ron Artest was suspended for a season. This guy is banned for a season, not for life.
- Champzilla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3ya rly.
- Cruelapollo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"If the racial slur he's allegedly said is supposed to be "porch monkey", how is "monkey" even equivalent to that?"
Porch monkey is not a racial slur! Coon, spook, spade, moolie, jigaboo, nig-nog, those are racial slurs!
PORCH-MONKEY-4-LIFE - Ukonu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It's been answered repeatedly above this post- just read. It WAS used as a racial slur against blacks in the civil rights and slave eras. There are even psuedo-scientific studies from those times that tried to equate monkeys and blacks by comparing their skull sizes.
Like the guy said above: stop trying to apply pure logic to the human condition. Idealistically, maybe it should work that way. But realistically it doesn't. Some people on digg are too "smart" for their own good sometimes. - pexor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"...the problem of racist fans screaming racial slurs is a growing problem in US sports, and the NBA isn't sure how to deal with it." Who cares, just ban them. Heckling is ridiculously fun but you can't go around calling black athletes monkeys and get away with it. He may not have meant it that way, but that sure is how it came off, and that's all that matters.
I used to be an athlete, and it's exciting to hear the other side shouting at you cause you know you're doing something good for your team, but that's just a low blow and it ruins your focus. - westsand, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2you forgot sexuality and intelligence and coordination etc.
- Bradl3y, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"Mathematically, two negatives multiplied make a positive, thus two wrongs make one right."
That doesn't even make sense. 3 lefts makes 1 right. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+13The word monkey is NOT racist. Anyone who thinks it has their head up their arse. It is used to denote someone of lesser intelligence - a stupid idiot, or someone acting like one, because monkeys aren't as clever as humans.
Let's be blunt here - just because "black" people and monkeys look similar colours has nothing to with anything. I'm white and if someone called me a "polar bear" would I take offence? NO. Why? Because I'm not completely insane, that's why. - rykachik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2All of that and I bet you don't even make the $5 million a year for playing a sport either!
- uttles, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Why is it, in this country, we are prosecuting people for racial insults? Freedom of speech right? Just shrug it off. If someone acts that ignorant, that's THEIR problem.
- nightchrome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Just judging by the guy's name, it is entirely possible that English is not his native language, and that "monkey" as an insult means something entirely innocent in his native tongue. Such as, perhaps, "uncoordinated dumbass".
- Soniti, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Two lefts don't make a right..
But three do..
~Soniti - CircleFusion, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6The root of racism is prejudice. Negatively judging or mistreating someone because of their race could be a basic definition for racism. Discriminating based on race, insulting someone based on race, thinking your race is superior than theirs, these are also forms of racism. They are examples of racial prejudice.
The reason why "monkey" can be considered racist is due to it being a common (enough) racial slur toward black people. It isn't automatically racist to call someone a monkey, even if they are black. That is why racism is a difficult subject. There are many people who have racist thoughts but do not acknowledge (to themselves or to others) that they are racist. There are many privately racist people. Those who are sensitive to racism will (understandably) look for signs of this. Calling a black man a monkey will certainly cause someone who is sensitive to racism to do more than raise an eyebrow. While it is not absolute proof of racism, it raises a huge red flag.
The interesting thing about racism is that it is very relative to a person's sensitivity. Black comedians can make fun of white guys all day with virtually no claims of racism. It is just accepted. Technically, it is racism to say that white guys can't jump or dance, and that they have small penises. Thing is, not only are those comments not entirely accurate, but they can be hurtful. Stereotypes can certainly hurt people. The thing is, most white people don't really care. They are not quite that sensitive to those comments. Some of them think "If I don't mind being called a cracker, why do black people care about being called a monkey?"
Black people care about being the target of racism, a lot more than white people. They are more sensitive to that. It is more harmful. Why, you may ask? There is an obvious long history that everyone knows about, but there is also a not-so-obvious present issue of which many white people aren't aware. I'm not talking about hundreds of years of slavery. I'm saying that, today, black people deal with very harmful acts of racism their entire lives. Not just simple name-calling. I mean being beaten by police officers, being racially profiled by almost everyone in authority, being denied job opportunities, and the list goes on. Yyou would be hard-pressed to find a black adult who hasn't experience at least one of those things.
Some white people cry about political correctness, but they don't really get it. It goes quite a bit further than just not hurting someone's feelings. There is a lot more behind it.
I think of all of the white guys that have dealt with harmful acts of racism. Hmm... I guess most of them have only dealt with being the butt of jokes by black comedians. By comparison, that is not a big deal. It's still not a good thing (in my opinion) but it is not that big of a deal.
In recent years, racism in the U.S. has been fueled by acts of terrorism, the war in Iraq, the feud with Iran, and illegal Mexican immigrants. Racial tension has been increasing. I think we all could be a little bit more self-aware and take racism more seriously. - dBLiSS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@steelmaverick
Why would you multiply them? why not add? or subtract? Using an arbitrary mathematical device doesn't bring any logic to it. Although, if you were just saying it in jest then sorry for being pretentious. - Harfish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me."
Great saying, the only thing wrong with it that it isn't true. -
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