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- LoveLikeRockets, on 10/25/2008, -4/+40I'm from Oklahoma and we just found the internet.
- spikyvashy, on 10/25/2008, -1/+28I don't care about the sonics , i'm a knicks fans but dammmmmm Seattle got reamed and the deal fell through even after the courts saw Bennet's stupid email about how he was planning to leave all along.
- subliminali, on 10/25/2008, -4/+27David Stern should have been strung up for this. I'm not even a sonics fan but this move no doubt diminished my respect for the league. I will cringe every time the OK Robber Barons are on tv.
- thegamingguy, on 10/25/2008, -1/+23Having Kevin Durant as their "first" franchise player should energize their fan base right from the beginning. Watch Seattle reboot the Sonics franchise ala the Cleveland Browns in the next few years, as they retained the rights to the name.
- cogentspirit, on 10/25/2008, -0/+20As an NBA fan I can't believe how badly the NBA screwed Seattle over. I mean how the hell is a city expected to pay for three arenas in under a decade. That's a high price for anywhere not named New York or LA. I wish the courts had found in Seattle's favor without a stupid buyout settlement. But the city will be back with a franchise soon, I hope.
- woofers07, on 10/25/2008, -6/+25***** David Stern and ***** his bed/butt buddy Clay Bennett. I'm not even a Sonics fan, Blazers actually, but Stern and Bennett were totally in on it together to screw Seattle over since Stern was whining like a bitch how he wasn't getting enough money from their arena lease agreement.
I hate David Stern. - trevorjez, on 10/25/2008, -1/+19couldn't agree more. stern and bennett held seattle hostage.
and now it seems key arena might be okay again for a new NBA team with a slight upgrade? ***** you stern. - epithet, on 10/25/2008, -3/+16As a Seattle native, I'm ***** pissed.
- evilesttoast, on 10/25/2008, -2/+14I heard you guys are burning witches down there, is that true?
- ericduh, on 10/25/2008, -1/+12i went to the preseason game against the clippers. it was entertaining, but the thunder lost. to the clippers. in their first okc game. to the clippers.
the clippers. - biAk, on 10/25/2008, -3/+13go to hell, bennett.
- dkol97, on 10/25/2008, -5/+15God Bennett is such a piece of *****
- Nathrat, on 10/25/2008, -7/+16Being originally from Oklahoma, I would like to say that it's about time they get some kind of pro sports team, even if it is basketball.
- eastwood24, on 10/25/2008, -0/+9Come down here and find out.
- AngryAndrew, on 10/25/2008, -2/+10Worst sign ever...
"NB Yea"????
It should have been:
NB YAY... - inactive, on 10/25/2008, -0/+8No, we don't.
Burn in hell Bennett. - solvable, on 10/25/2008, -0/+8I don't care if they do ***** and end up losing a majority of their games, I'm just happy that our state will finally have a team to root for. Ever since I was a kid I was hoping our state would get a pro team and it finally has happened. Although I wish it wouldn't of happen at Seattle's expense.
- Kumaku, on 10/25/2008, -0/+7Professional athlete's train only for their sport. He needs to be quick and flexible, muscle adds weight and more time in the gym doing reps instead of call work and control.
- DesignNerd, on 10/25/2008, -2/+9the OKC Thunder have the worst logo and team colors I have ever seen. Did they even try?
***** you bennett - Chemosabe, on 10/25/2008, -3/+10The vast, VAST majority of people in Seattle couldn't give a crap. So long Sonics. ***** you and your demands for more taxpayer money to replace your stadium. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
- dafragsta, on 10/25/2008, -1/+8The logo is ***** terrible. I really wanted to root for our first pro team, but the execution has been really ham fisted.
- markdall, on 10/25/2008, -2/+8F the NBA, F Bennett, and F Stern. Burn in hell you Fers.
/F! - chiko032, on 10/25/2008, -1/+6"And why Oklahoma City? Even in its own state, Tulsa would seem to have greater national prospects, with its rolling hills, mansion-filled neighborhoods and cultural accouterments of a serious place, as opposed to flat, brown, insular Oklahoma City, where unseemly oil wells blight even the Capitol grounds."
1. Tulsa's crime rate is one of the highest in the nation. I live in OKC and hate going to Tulsa. Everytime I go I can't believe it is apart of Oklahoma let alone a 'major' player city in some people's minds. Tulsa just honestly feels like a depressing ***** hole every time I go there.
2. Rolling hills? Has this douche bag ever been to Tulsa? It has NO rolling hills. It's just a depressing random metropolitan city that just so happens to be in Oklahoma.
3. Mansion-filled neighborhoods? Whoever wrote this has never heard of the term 'research'. OKC (and its closely surrounding areas) is (are) home to Nichols Hills, Crown Heights, Heritage Hills, Gaillardia, Rosecreek, and a slew of other gated mansion filled neighborhoods that put Tulsa to shame. Not to mention Devon, Chesapeake, Sandridge energy, and Ackerman and Mcqueen (the largest ad firm in the mid-west) are all based out of OKC.
4. "Flat, brown, insular Oklahoma City, where unseemly oil wells blight even the Capitol grounds." Does this asshat actually think we are still riding horses, fighting off Indians, and basing our ENTIRE economy off of oil wells based within the city limits? Flat...maybe. Insular...hardly. OKC has I-35, Route 66, I-40, and I-44 all running through it. We are also at the center of where I-40 and I-35 intersect. Granted it has led to a large drug trafficking problem through the city, but to call us Insular? I think not.
This article has shown some unnerving light on what I thought the New York Times was. I am disappointed that they would even let an article like this be published in their paper or on their site. As far as the Thunder being here, I really don't care. The article was completely biased. Really makes you think how many of their other articles they publish are fact checked. My guess is deadlines at the NYT = sloppy reporting, misspelled FRONT PAGE articles, and incorrect biased news. - Daodos, on 10/25/2008, -0/+4This guy does not speak for Seattle. As a true life-long Seattle Dweller. We have pride in our teams in both times of Victory, and Defeat! We still cheer the Mariners no matter how much they suck.
- devophl, on 10/25/2008, -1/+5I give the team 5-8 years in OK City. Unlike football where a team in Green Bay can support a team for 8 home games a year, a city as small as Oklahoma City will struggle to support a team for 41 home games a year. Once the initial fascination wears off, they will struggle to fill the arena. Once the franchise starts bleeding red ink, they'll move to a larger metro area.
- Youhavemyaxe, on 10/25/2008, -0/+4I love Paul Allen for voting against this move even though it benefits him financially since he owns the Seahawks and the closest NBA team to Seattle.
- kubedawg, on 10/25/2008, -3/+7Thank god we finally got a pro team, even if it is basketball. Now where's our ***** pro football team?
- arkboysooner, on 10/25/2008, -0/+4Howard Schultz dumb ass should have had the foresight not to sell the team to a group of Oklahoma City Business men. Talk about naive..
- Edgar4HOF, on 10/25/2008, -1/+5What patent BS.
The Sonics were in Seattle for 40 years. They had our only national championship title for any pro sport. The Sonics and Seattle, in short, had a ridiculous amount of history together.
And lately, the team had fallen on hard times. A few years of low attendance gives OKC the right to permanently steal them away? That's a warped way of thinking. - bicyclethief, on 10/25/2008, -0/+3Chris Paul is not known for his physical strength.
Chris Paul is a franchise player.
Your statement "if your team's franchise player can't even bench press 185lbs you're team has problems" is *****.
Thanks.
FYI: If you've watched Durant play, he is not a post player. He plays like a guard. He does not need physical strength. Against bigger players, he can blow by them. Against smaller players, he posts and uses his length. - Caalro, on 10/25/2008, -7/+10Seattle wishes you the best in your new location, Oklahoma. Lol.
- BobScratchit, on 10/25/2008, -0/+3They burnt them all by now I thought.
- Edgar4HOF, on 10/25/2008, -1/+3It's sickening how biased this article is in favor of Stern and Bennet. Mention how citizens had to pay for 2 arenas in 10 years, but don't mention that that MAY be asking a little too much of them? Don't mention Bennet's unreasonable demands for a 500 MILLION dollar arena paid almost wholly by taxpayers? Don't mention the innumerable more reasonable proposals rejected by Bennet? Don't mention Bennet's released e-mails that clearly showed his intention to move the sonics out from the getgo? Don't mention Audrey McLendon's statement that they intended to move the sonics all along? How obvious can their collusion get?
- nightofgrim, on 10/25/2008, -3/+5i don't miss them
- monkeysama, on 10/25/2008, -3/+5As a Seattle native, I'm not broken up about the Sonics leaving. We needed to make room for the Mist anyway.
- iSamurai, on 10/25/2008, -2/+4Too bad you're city can't ***** build it's own franchise and has to steal a team.
- FENWAYFREAK, on 10/25/2008, -0/+2How the SuperSonics became Oklahoma City’s 1st big-time team.
Well it starts with david stern being an awful human being and giving a personal friend a free pass through the rules and stealing a team from a city. Seriously, there was tons of proof that they had plans to move the team all along, but stern overlooked it. He needs to be fired. Immediately. - BassMastr, on 10/25/2008, -1/+3Does Clay own the team? Did he pay for it? Where Sonic fans going to the games? Is the NBA a business?
- FENWAYFREAK, on 10/26/2008, -0/+2There are rules that you can't purchase a team just to move it somewhere else. No they weren't going to the games, but that doesn't mean he can buy the team with the sole purpose of moving it.
- AeroZeppelin, on 10/25/2008, -0/+2Seriously, that has to be the most generic logo ever.
- hikari07, on 10/26/2008, -0/+2I agree. I lived in OKC for the first 18 years of my life, and moved to Tulsa and have been there for the past year. From what I can tell, OKC is just a better market. The part about Tulsa having rolling hills, at least in comparison to OKC, is true. OKC is just plain flat. But I have yet to see the upscale neighborhoods on the level of OKC. And there aren't half the number of suburbs.
And I never noticed the number of oil wells in OKC. Not once. Tulsa just doesn't have the developed city center like OKC downtown/bricktown. - username7410, on 10/26/2008, -0/+2Yeah, good jsut in time for Kevin Durant and Jeff Green to sign long term contracts with real NBA franchises not located in the dust bowl.
- Edgar4HOF, on 10/25/2008, -1/+3Retarded? I'm an idiot? You have to rely upon ad hominem atacks to get your point across?Thanks for verifying the intelligence of the average OKC fan.
It's our fault that Bennett bought the team with the express reason of moving it away? Our fault that Stern colluded with him? Our fault that 3 stadium/arenas were too much for a 10 year period, and Bennett wanted an almost wholly taxpayer funded 500 million buck arena? Nice try. - livinggoodloso, on 10/26/2008, -1/+2Even though I'm from Seattle, I'll give you a count as to who the blame really falls on.
1. The city of Seattle for locking the Sonics into the WORST lease agreement in the NBA forcing the ownership to lose money annually.
2. Howard Shultz for selling to an outside investor. (Can you really blame him when nobody from the Pacific NW was interested?)
3. Clay Bennett and his investors for revealing their true intentions. (You gotta love email!)
4. David Stern for not acknowledging these emails and saying that the Key Arena will not work (Along with Bennett, I think they like each other more than friends, hint hint wink wink).
5. The state of Washington for not coming up with or even vote for a solid taxpayer backed plan.
6. David Stern saying that a Key Arena renovation will work after they've relocated (wha???).
Let's tally this up shall we?
David Stern = 2
City of Seattle = 1
State of Washington = 1
Clay Bennett and his dumb investors (who can't keep their mouths shut) = 1
Howard Shultz (he's dumb too for filing a lawsuit and then dropping it to save face but actually making him look even worse) = 1
Looks like the David Stern has some splainin' to do ... - Edgar4HOF, on 10/25/2008, -0/+1You've never had a national sports team in OKC. You'll see the bandwagoners flee the sinking ship soon enough.
And NBA teams rely more on corporations to keep themselves afloat financially, not fans. Being in a small market city, and with the economic downturn ahead, I could see the Thunder going down under quite easily. - trloatis, on 10/26/2008, -0/+1here here.
- ADAMWK, on 10/25/2008, -0/+1I am just wondering if anyone can name the teams with waiting lists for season tickets. Lets see The Lakers, The Suns, The Jazz and ummm... ohh yeah. The Thunder. If you are going to bash on someone bash stern or bennett OKC has done nothing but welcome the Hornets and impress the NBA brass. Welcome Thunder its going to be fun.
- bicyclethief, on 10/25/2008, -0/+1Chris Paul must be way stronger than I thought...
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