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- fandyllic, on 03/01/2009, -15/+45Sympathy = 0. Home-schoolers have to prove themselves in competitive environment. Playing other home-schoolers is not it.
If home-school parents want their kids to be competitive they need the home-school league to play games with regular school leagues occasionally like the private schools sometimes do.
It's all about critical mass. Personally, I think home-schooling promotes cult behavior, but I don't like private schools either. - bduddy, on 03/01/2009, -13/+36I'm sorry, no sympathy from me. Parents, you want the benefits of a public high school? Then send your kids with one instead of trying to indoctrinate them with your religion, or shelter them from the big bad high school meanies, or whatever other motivation they have.
- zyko, on 03/01/2009, -3/+25People here associate home schooling with religious zealots, which is not always true.
- NateB2, on 03/01/2009, -5/+26It all depends on the parents - some parents are of the cult mentality - wanting to "shelter" their kids from every source of "evil" out there - that is a terrible mistake.
In this situation, I really don't have any sympathy. We can't lower the bar for a certain group - that would be unfair to everyone else.
If the homeschooled students want a proper education in sports, there are plenty of avenues for that - in fact, it would probably be a good idea for them to go to a public school sports program simply to have the opportunity to integrate with the other kids who have a dissimilar background. - fandyllic, on 03/01/2009, -4/+25Correction to above content. They don't only play other home schoolers, but playing small, Christian, private high schools isn't much better. Sometimes good athletes go to academic schools knowing their athletic opportunities will be diminished. Home-school parents basically make the same choice for their kids. Tough.
- inactive, on 03/01/2009, -4/+24I wooped my little sister 21-0 three times in the summer of '04, but where was my scholarship? now I work at Maccas, they were actually impressed by the reference from my mum regarding my table cleaning skills.
- FlaG8r, on 03/01/2009, -3/+20I'm not a fan of home-schooling, but the parents do still pay taxes that support public education. Their kids should be able to play for the local public school like Tebow did in Florida.
- cesclaveria, on 03/01/2009, -5/+21hey, could anyone fill me in on why you hate homeschooled kids?
If they are getting a proper education I see no problem, but I don't know how things are in the US. - ousthouse, on 03/01/2009, -7/+22Home schooled kids are inferior because they don't attend our counties' perfect public school systems. /s
- Cogie, on 03/01/2009, -2/+16Sweet Jesus thank you Zyko....
Yes, a huge majority of home school people are very religious but that doesn't mean we are west burrough baptist crazy. Just like in public schools, you got your crazy asses who scare the ***** out of you, then you have normal people, then you have your WoW nerds. It's the same type of people in a different setting. - mbraynard, on 03/01/2009, -6/+20You aren't really interested in the answer to the question. I'll give you three reasons why I am:
1) Education standards in the US schools stink and international test prove it. Our best schools are only as good as the poor schools in Poland, South Korea, etc. And this applies to most private schools here, too.
2) The 'mass production' method of school systems originates from a period where teachers were scarce and, like most government institutions, it hasn't changed. Home schooling / Montessori schooling recognizes that every child is unique and has unique interests and a unique way of learning - and is built around that.
3) I don't care to hand my children over to the state for brainwashing.
And finally, ***** sports. That isn't what school is about and focus on sports is part of the reason American education blows.
Note to high school athletes: Since the invention of the composite bow, your physical prowess has become increasingly less relevant. - Y0tsuya, on 03/01/2009, -1/+13Here in the Silicon Valley, many engineers home school their kids because the public schools suck ass, as does your generalization.
- Cogie, on 03/01/2009, -3/+15Or you could ease up off the people who want a different life then what you think is right? Yeah there are some crazy ***** who home school their kids for god knows why but there are plenty of normal people who just don't want their kids in a public school. However, I can say I don't know why this article is such a big deal...It is quite possible to home school kids and still have them play sports in a public school (which is certainly the better idea)
- zyko, on 03/01/2009, -5/+17All the home schooled kids I know started college at 15. I think some parents believe that HS has no real value. Not all are religious nutjobs.
- govsucks, on 03/01/2009, -3/+14Public school kid: How be u spelin babbby?
- slashdotordigg, on 03/01/2009, -1/+12Close friend of mine was home schooled back in highschool. But he was very good athlete and was allowed to play at the city's top highschool football team. he does not play football in college but he can. I am sure the student in this article can do senior year at some private school/public school again and play at college. Even some students who already graduated can do senior year again for this purpose and many other. I attended Christian high school and played soccer. But we did compete against public high school(3~5 public schools a season) and one of them was number 2 in my state. There are plenty of opportunities and only thing that may stop you is ignorance and giving up.
- cesclaveria, on 03/01/2009, -3/+13so this comes back down again to a problem with religious people?
Digg is getting so lame in that aspect of the community,every other article sparks a religious flame war.
is this a new trend in the US or is just digg specific? - CptBuck, on 03/01/2009, -6/+15When your home schooled child finally makes it to the real world and realizes that "mass production" is the basis of modernity it will come as a shock to him that no one gives a ***** if he is unique.
- plaguester, on 03/01/2009, -1/+9Trivia: What recent Heisman Trophy winner was home schooled? Florida has a law that states that home schoolers can play for the high school in their district. That's really a good solution in my opinion. They pay taxes like everybody else and should get a shot at the team.
- poopdigger, on 03/01/2009, -1/+9If sports are important enough to these kids (and their parents), then they should be going to a school where team sports are a bigger part of life.
I'm sure there are good reasons for home-schooling... shouldn't it just be obvious that competitive teams sports is not going to be on the curriculum and they are going to have to take it as given? - mewho, on 03/01/2009, -0/+8You want to know why I was home schooled? I grew up in Kansas. The schools taught creationism and teachers enjoyed hitting kids. There was mandatory prayer after the pledge of allegiance-and this was a public school! My father has a PhD in psychology, my mom has a masters in sociology. They wanted their children to know how to think and how to interacted with people of all ages.
- inactive, on 03/01/2009, -1/+9mbraynard:
Let me tell you something. I was homeschooled all 12 years, and it isn't a picnic integrating with society having no experience to deal with it.
Do yourself a favor and please treat your kid(s) right if you really are homeschooling and not trolling.
Let them be around normal kids, let them be around the bad kids too. They'll learn consequences that they see the other kid face instead of having a blank chalkboard for someone to write on after they leave the nest.
Let them graduate high school their 12th year. Seriously, a GED doesn't cut it and homeschool educated is more of a stigma than you will ever know. You can't even get into a decent MOS with homeschool education and it's hard to ***** up joining the army.
Let him / her date. There are worse people out there than the worst boyfriend / girlfriend that your kid gets, show them some life lessons before they live it on their own.
I could honestly rant for hours about ideas to make it easier for one reason - there are too many pitfalls that I have stumbled upon in life to not want to pass them on.
Take care of your kid man, seriously - bob_the_alien, on 03/01/2009, -5/+13Because it's Digg, and they have a collective mentality.
Nothing wrong with being Home Schooled.
As long as the child is receiving a proper education, it's no different than attending a public or private school.
Personally I attended both public and private institutions while growing up. In both of those, if you did not choose to go along with the institutions rules and regulations you were promoted along with everyone that did, without ever receiving a proper education yourself. People will diminish home school, but uneducated people are graduating from public and private schools everyday. I have known people that come from home school environments, and I see them as no different than anyone else. Some come out with a proper education, some do not. It's absolutely no different than our public and private schools.
Digg's collective mind just sees home schooling as the same thing as religion and since the collective mind finds religion wrong thus home school is wrong. However that is completely wrong in itself, many non-religious people home school their children because they find the school systems to be lacking, and for good reason. Also though, there is nothing wrong with religious people home schooling their children, it's their right. But you will find that on Digg, it's only correct if it's collectively correct, and thus because of this I will probably get buried, but I don't mind, it happens quite often. - Biscuitz, on 03/01/2009, -0/+8Man, I'm an Athiest, but I was planning on Homeschooling my daughter. All the haters here on homeschooling is ridiculous. Though I haven't quite made my decision, I was basing it on how educated my son is getting through the public schools (he goes to public school), but quite frankly, he's too damn smart for the grade he is in, and that is due to me. Both of my kids are smart, because I have worked with them since they could understand my words. I feel confident that I could teach my children what they need to know, since I've been there and done that. They have friends, they play outside, my son plays baseball during the seasons they have it. Etc etc.
Home-schooling seems to have a stereotypical chime to it, but I can tell you, it's not what people think. - mbraynard, on 03/01/2009, -3/+10"I doubt anybody here hates homeschool kids"
Did you read the posts here?
You don't seem to have been 'home schooled,' you seem to have been simply abused. You aren't really qualified to criticize 'home schooling' anymore than the children of Josef Fritzl are.
I've worked with a lot of people - among the best, most well-adjusted were home schooled because they were able to build a solid character through age twelve that could withstand the irrational psychopathic that parents infect their children with and that then spread through what becomes the child's dominant social environment - the (public) school.
What you don't understand is that properly educated 'home schooled' children reach a level of maturity in their teenage years that traditionally educated children don't hit until their 20s - if ever. A 13 year old child with an independent eduaction can be dropped in almost any negative social environment and still strive - rather than being subdued by it. - inactive, on 03/01/2009, -16/+23Home Schooled Kid: How is Babby Formed?
- alexmensen, on 03/01/2009, -7/+14you were picked last in dodgeball right?
- govsucks, on 03/01/2009, -1/+8Gosh, so loyal to the public school sytem, so loyal to the state. Such disdain for anything that deviates from the group think. Such open mindedness when it comes to diversity. I wonder how you guys picked that up. /S
brain.washed.lemmings. - bob_the_alien, on 03/01/2009, -0/+6I think it's just digg specific.
- offrdbandit, on 03/01/2009, -4/+10It isn't like colleges don't take walk-on players.
- acatzr800, on 03/01/2009, -0/+6Growing up both my brother and I were on a homeschool basketball team and the coach was told that the public schools would lose some sort of status if we played against them. We played several private schools in the area and it was us or another homeschool team that won the league every year. My senior year, the coach made the decision to enter us into a north-east regional tournament where we placed quite nicely in addition to winning the dunking contest. I'm 6'8, and my brother is 6'5. We routinely were top scorers, rebounders, blockers, etc in the league. We had friends on the public school teams that, frankly, any one of our team could have schooled.
Add in to that proven higher test scores and better social adjustment than you first two posters, obviously being quite ignorant, might think.
Think back to some of the best minds over the past several thousand years and realize that most of them didn't come out of a public school system. I'm sorry, but "passing" to us isn't a 55 on the regents.
Finally, before you write us off as socially inept, just remember you're on Digg right now. Open up your eyes a little bit. - pixburgher, on 03/01/2009, -4/+10As another previously homeschooled student, I have to say BS.
I was homeschooled because public school is primarily a waste of time. I spent the vast majority of my homeschooled time entertaining myself, watching TV or playing with my legos and STILL wound up with a serious leg up on my peers when I eventually entered public school (7th grade).
That said, I wouldn't necessarily advocate homeschooling all the way up to college, since the regular social interaction really is necessary. But honestly, education in this country is a joke. No serious college-bound student should bother going to school more than 3-4 times per week. - Yarkz, on 03/01/2009, -1/+7WNBA sucks anyways.
- Barackalypse, on 03/01/2009, -2/+8Life is about choices, if basketball is really that important, she might have to attend a normal school to maximize her chances of playing in college. However, if she is good enough, she doesn't actually need to be scouted or recruited, she just needs to enroll in the school she wants, show up for walk on try-outs, and play noticeably better than any of the girls that are already on the team. Then dominate whenever they put you in your freshmen year and secure a scholarship for your remaining 3 years.
To those who doubt open tryouts, the Hoosiers womens program does, and I know of many others that do as well:
http://iuhoosiers.cstv.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-re ... - terrya64, on 03/01/2009, -0/+5Anyone ever watch the National spelling bees and notice that most winners and finalist are home schooled.
- aurorous, on 03/01/2009, -0/+5Man i love home school threads all the "open minded" and "loving people" give themselves permission to be hateful towards people for being different. If not for you guys my opinion of progressives would be higher than than it is for neocons.
I went to public school but all my actual friends were all in different classes and being bussed all over to different schools I never saw any of them at school. I got home i hung with all the guys around my neighborhood and I never saw them at school. The "social" aspect never applied to me.
Given how disastrous public schools can be in some parts of this country homeschooling maybe the only viable choice to get a real education. Until the people in charge of are schools consider teaching children to read as high a priority as hiring accountants to count how much money they'll have to spend next year some kids will be screwed. If my children are in a school system that dysfunctional I'm not gonna sit and accept it, I'm gonna see what my options are and what I can afford. - Couchy, on 03/01/2009, -1/+6There's nothing wrong with home schooling as long as the student is allowed to socialize in a normal manner at other community gatherings, whether it be sports or church or poker night or pub night. No reason to hate.
- inactive, on 03/01/2009, -2/+7That schmuck who beat LaBron at Horse should sue the NBA demanding a 9-figure salary.
- bob_the_alien, on 03/01/2009, -1/+6WHAT????
Did you read what I posted, you apparently didn't understand it. I was fairly straight forward I thought.
I was saying Digg associates Home School as Religion, and since Digg finds religion wrong, they find home schooling wrong as well.
However It has nothing to do with Religion, just as many non-religious people home school as religious. All you did was take something I wrote, and turn it around to bash religion again, only proving my point. - 8randon, on 03/01/2009, -1/+6i agree. depending on the district, home schoolers can still play in public leagues.
see: tim tebow - AngelaQ, on 03/01/2009, -0/+5In Maine, homeschooled kids can participate in sports in their local school system.
- shibagarden, on 03/01/2009, -0/+5Maybe he means MJ's son, Jeff. He was a walk-on at Illinois.
- AngelaQ, on 03/01/2009, -0/+5Either they think they can do a better job academically, or they want to give them a Christian education, which is their right, though I disagree with programs that teach a biblical concept of science.
There isn't anything controversial about homeschooling among people who know anything about it. It works, so long as you look at the end result, which is kids that generally are educated better than in public schools, thanks to the way one-on-one instruction can respond to the talents and interests of individual students. Homeschoolers have been proven to be as well-adjusted as kids who went through a school system.
The myth is that there is something natural or necessary about kids being segregated into age groups and taught in large classes of kids with wildly varying academic and social needs. They do this in public schools because they can't afford to give kids personal attention. Public schools also do this to get kids used to following authority blindly and keep them from learning critical thinking. - JustinCase18, on 03/01/2009, -1/+6Select or Travel teams are another way to go. With ASA softball, a Select team of 14 year olds could probably destroy most Varsity high school teams.
- inactive, on 03/01/2009, -0/+5wait? Are you that stupid? Jordan was a full scholarship player for North Carolina. NOT a walk on.
Please...do me a favor and humor me and tell me where you THINK you got that information from. I am genuile curious as to what you think you are talking about. (Of course, you won't. You will not admit that you were ridiculously wrong. You don't have the integrity to do so.)
And to the idiot who also dugg you up...you also should never talk about sports.
While I generally hate using Wkipedia, I will just to show you how stupid you are. You see...McDonald's All Americans in high school generally do not get passed up by major colleges...
As a senior, he was selected to the McDonald's All-American Team[9] after averaging a triple-double: 29.2 points, 11.6 rebounds, and 10.1 assists.[10][11]
In 1981, Jordan earned a basketball scholarship to the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, where he majored in cultural geography. - inactive, on 03/01/2009, -0/+5Yes thank you. If a home schooled family is tax exempt then I understand the arguments presented by everyone, but the fact of the matter is they still pay taxes and therefore should have equal rights.
- richirwin, on 03/01/2009, -1/+5This is a truly ignorant article.
College recruiters find the players worth recruiting, no matter what.
The key to this article is right up front - 5'10" and one of the leading rebounders in her country. Being 5'10" and a leading rebounder tells you everything you need to know about the level of her competition.
Buried for more Moonie *****. - radish, on 03/02/2009, -0/+4Fritzed, spoken like someone still in, or just out of the public school system. There's a reason home schooling is on the rise, and why home schoolers generally test far better than their public school counter parts.
- RedStateRetard, on 03/01/2009, -0/+4Tim Tebow was home schooled. But was allowed to play at his local high school, despite not taking classes there.
- xGeneric, on 03/01/2009, -0/+4It's not all like that. I know kids who were home schooled by super religious parents who wanted to limit their kids contact with others outside their family(it's not a cult or anything... just very strict). It wasn't just one family, it's a large group of Finish families in my area. Not all of them were home schooled, but the ones who were do seem a little different.
On the other side though, I also knew a kid who was home schooled. I went to Karate classes with him, went over his house a few times, and I think my cousin is going to college with him now. As far as I know, he didn't turn out to be some social weirdo... he was just a really smart kid in a town with a terrible public school system who would have been held back by it.
If parents are more concerned about providing their kids with a form of education that isn't driven by religion or personal agenda, then home schooling has a lot to offer kids. The only thing I feel it still lacks, is the social education you learn in a public or private school. You can still sign your kids up for group activities, but I feel it's still to different from being in a building with the same group of people, 6 hours a day, for years... which is a situation a lot of people find themselves in with their job. -
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