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- snowbooch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22sounds fun, but chances are with that degree the partys over after college
(runs and hides) - gharding, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13A roommate of mine majored in Sports Management. He did sales for a sports marketing and is now in sales for a trading firm. A degree is a degree.
- Raphoroni, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Hey how do you get a Lynn Graduate off your porch?
- pay for the pizza - KibibyteBrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9"I make a heck of a lot more money selling magazines that I ever did doing software engineering." Remember the infamous line from office space. Its sadly more true than not.
- DiggsOnlyNeoCon, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10Enjoy your post-graduate career as a lifeguard.
- aguyingilbert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Man I wish this was around when I was in school
- Gerz1219, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Why? When you move from an educational system in which only the elite 10% attend college to one in which pretty much everyone attends college, you're bound to wind up with some Sports Management majors. At least they're required to take general education classes that will broaden their horizons. The university may be slightly out of touch with the needs of our labor force, but people who pick unemployable majors make that choice with full awareness that getting a job may be difficult after senior year. The real failing is in our public secondary schools, where some very basic reading, writing, and critical thinking skills simply aren't being taught.
- bobbyuggles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4A fun trip to be sure, but attending the game isn't the ONLY thing the have had to do all semester as part of the three credit class. It also wouldn't surprise me if this was actually part of a larger course and the article wasn't fact checked as well as it should have been. Working for a major university (one of the ones in the Final Four as it turn out), I find errors in news articles all the time about university life.
Regardless... I don't deny this would be a fun experience. - datastorageguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4There was a study done on this last year and the numbers you indicate are correct. However, the issue is not quantity but quality. The engineers produced in the US are far more qualified.
The point you are making I agree with, however. We need to increase our educational standards in this country. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Please! Everyone knows 20th century colleges were basically expensive daycare centres.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7If they end up coaching the middle school soccer team, then yeah, you've got a point; but if they end up working for a sports team then "the party don't stop". Free tickets, free gatorade, and free sports paraphernalia for all!
Beats working in a cubicle :( - DeskFlyer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Naw....lifeguards make decent money.
- rick777, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I got my sports management degree from UF................I'm making 70k/year selling computer software. Go figure
- KibibyteBrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Actually, any major event has a great deal of planning and behind the scenes work that is on a scale that in classroom learning can't cover. I'd say this was probably a good experience for the students to see how a real ship is run. I'm not sure it deserved 3 credits, but I sure as hell know if I was hiring a manager, I'd like him to see something out of the real world a million times more than memorizing some ***** textbook written by someone who probably can't even manage their own social life. Management is about making connections with people, which is something that is not like Engineering, Medicine, and Law in that it doesn't circle around strict routines of study. However, have a really good scientist try to manage, and lets see him say its easy.
- cam0man, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I won't criticize them for taking a ***** class....but you have to criticize people for picking courses that aren't taking full advantage of the time/money they spent on college. I hate wasting time on ***** stuff I could have learned through a couple of books, I'd rather spend my college career taking courses in which I really need the hands on guidance of an expert to learn. Learning a lot of applied science stuff on your own is extremely difficult, but if you can ask questions to a prof, it's not that bad.
Not knockin these kids for doing something cool, just knockin them for wasting the precious time at college on something so asinine. - schnikies79, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I work in management for a pro football team (American Football). You have no idea how much prep a game takes and how many 12-15hr days we work pre-game days. I'll admit it's a lot of fun but it's a lot of work. It pays a lot than I could make as a bench chemist.
I have a degree in chemistry and a minor in marketing but I want to work in a sports related field or own my own business so this does it for now. I also do some side coaching.
Plus I'm a sports nut. - ccrook, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2And their degrees are worthless.
- brufleth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@datastorageguy
I'm well employed as an engineer but how accurate is your "more qualified" statement. Could you please reference the study? I would be very interested in reading it.
As I understand it the schools in India are in a completely different (better) league relative to the schools here. I've heard such things as schools like Harvard and Yale are considered safety schools and such. Maybe this is all exaggeration and I think there is some confusion relative to graduate vs undergraduate study.
I have a BS in electrical engineering from a reputable US school and I'd be interested to know how that stacks up against people with a BS from say an Indian or Chinese school. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Man, I had to weasel my way out of a day of class to go to Atlanta and these guys get credit for it? Damnit OSU!
- Jwoey, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5"sports paraphernalia"?
memorabilia? - phanfo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2sorry if anyone went there but Lynn isn't a real school, from my understanding it isn't even accredited. Its not even phoenix online.
I know kids who went there, they were rich and did terrible and school, but were sent to college so they went somewhere to get out of the house anyways, even though they failed academically.
And this isn't some bitter post about rich kids, I was one, but I took care of my responsibilities. - lazyrussian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wonder how much money the kids or their parents wasted for each credit-hour not to mention the 4 years they spend getting that degree...
- the0ther, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1weak
- sfraider24, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You wish this was around when you were in college? I wish I was around when I was in college...
- champsampson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You want fries with that?
- kskatzke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oh, I dunno. There's a lot more money to be made in sports marketing (and it's a great lifelong party on top of it) than there is to be made in a field where you actually have to -work-. Maybe all of the sports marketing majors have actually realized this? ;)
Of course, it's not all fun and games. You have no idea how many 80 to 120 hour weeks people that work for sports teams -- especially chronically underfunded support staffs for college sports teams -- pull to get a single game done. I happen to work for a big university in the athletics department, and I regularly pull 80 hour weeks to get everything that's on my plate done -- and I'm just the webmaster/systems administrator. - GoatMonkey2112, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Well this gives them a chance to get a good look at the building they will be sweeping after getting that degree.
- datastorageguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Remember also that both China and India have far higher populations that skew these numbers. The numbers provided by the Chinese government are somewhat suspect, and what qualifies as an 'engineer' is also a matter of dispute. Duke did a study on this as reflected in the following articles.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=125
http://www.innovation-america.org/archive.php?articleID=40
http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=188101097 - jmcgoneg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There are lots of courses like this at different schools. If it is an option, you can audit the real course and at the end of it take a 2 week excursion with the prof to a different country for the 3 credits.
- kskatzke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Nah. You end up working for a university or college pulling down a smidgen under 6 figures a year. You'd be shocked how many people and how much skill it takes to pull off a college athletics event.
- sportfan99, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I got a credit for mountain biking too. it was great experience!
John - Essays
http://www.essaytown.com - sharly2007, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0A fun trip to be sure, but attending the game isn't the ONLY thing the have had to do all semester as part of the three credit class. It also wouldn't surprise me if this was actually part of a larger course and the article wasn't fact checked as well as it should have been. Working for a major university (one of the ones in the Final Four as it turn out), I find errors in news articles all the time about university life. http://www.gwafi.com/home.html http://www.gwafi.com/links.html
- cayennenator, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Wow! This is too common nowadays.
- imamessy1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I went to art school and we could get credits in the summer by going to NeoCon, and interior design conference in Chicago. We walked around the Merchandise Mart, got free swag (mostly just massive tote bags), went to the Hayworth furniture party in Millenium Park (open bar), attended a few lectures, toured a few places, and had to write a paper on it to get humanities credits.
I'd bet they'd have to write some kind of paper on the experience. That's how those kind of things get justified. - felbie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Ill digg it, but Lynn students/graduates have enough money to not have to deliver pizza(most of them) I live right down the street from the school its pretty much the school to go to if u cant get in anywhere, but have money, atleast thats what I am told from the people that go there.
- Pottersquash, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Big deal, I got 3 credits for drinking beer with Sierra Club. "Political Activism"
Easy classes aren't news. They happen, don't be jealous. - bubbadu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I am pretty sure thats not true...
http://www.lynn.edu/index.php?submenu=generalCampusInfo&src=gendocs&link=AboutAccreditation&category=About%20Lyn
my good friend from VT goes there and I am pretty sure the degrees "count". Sure it was loaded with rich kids and was like going to school at a resort, but there was some learning going on there. - joesausage, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0+1 to Bobbyuggles. I wouldn't be surprised if the 3 credits involved more than just the trip. Then again, it might not. I'm not sure anyone should be pissed off about this. I can get 3 credits during a 6-week summer school class doing not-a-lot of work. I'm sure if you were an art major and you planned a trip like this to, I dunno, the MOMA in San Francisco or Art Institute in Chicago you could work some credit out of it. Hell, I got 3 credits for a video game design internship that involved a trip to the IGF at the GDC in San Francisco. That was radical.
However, I do think it's kind of silly that in an institution of "higher education" we have sports management majors. - generalzod1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Sport Management is actually quite a great degree due to the huge impact sports have on our American economy. It's not just professional sport teams but national sport organizations, olympic organizations, and non-profit organizations. There you go people.
- Wonkanobi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Q: How many sports management majors does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: Only one, but they get credit for it. - simoncoul, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Sounds like any humanities/social science program, getting a degree for doing nothing. But just watch were that degree gets u lol.
- bubbadu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I got 3 credits for a week in sunny LA from Burlington, Vermont... we did extra work, went to the price is right and got to see carmen electras ass rubbed by her personal assisant... first night out went to korean bbq and blow a ton of money all thanks to the university :P Gotta love it....
- erikotherland2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Sports Management? A Game Warden could better manage these "professional" sports teams.
- thedez, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1that stinks
- cthrall, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0I got a credit for mountain biking years ago. That was a fun class.
- datastorageguy, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4I weep for the future of America.


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