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- dball48, on 07/11/2009, -0/+18Those things are tangible...
- HellaHelgi, on 07/10/2009, -0/+12Sabermetricians just got a huge boner
- Tegurit34, on 07/11/2009, -0/+7It's not meant for fun. It's meant for analysis. Instead of going by subjective scouting reports we can now say "Player A has a range of N feet going back, O feet to his left, P feet to his right, and Q feet going forward." Teams currently need 3 years of data from defensive metrics just to ballpark a player's defensive range, but this system would make things significantly more accurate with less data needed.
- Stap1eGun, on 07/11/2009, -0/+6Finally! gold gloves may actually mean something now.
- freeridstylee, on 07/10/2009, -2/+8But can it call balls and strikes?
- rockon4life45, on 07/11/2009, -0/+4I am not for an automated strike zone. But I am for replays on close plays in the field.
This seems cool too. - Der_Eckinator, on 07/11/2009, -0/+3As a fan of the book "Money Ball", this could be pretty cool.
- nexus420, on 07/11/2009, -0/+3As a fan of more traditional baseball, ie pitchers should hit and hitters should field, I think this would be very cool. Anything that gives more focus to the defence and fundamentals is good for the game. I can't wait to see how bad A-Roid's and Manny's defensive numbers are.
- Tegurit34, on 07/11/2009, -0/+3I logged in just to digg you. This is the truth.
- Tegurit34, on 07/11/2009, -1/+3Yes because accurate information has done nothing but tarnish baseball.
- thebigdirty, on 07/11/2009, -1/+3$5 Million? Whew. Thought it would be expensive.
- Tegurit34, on 07/11/2009, -1/+3"Baseball may finally be able to measure those intangibles that have always had fans arguing about whether Derek Jeter or Hanley Ramirez is better with the glove."
I hope this is meant as sarcasm, seeing as these two aren't nearly among the best defenders at shortstop. Offense is spectacular, but neither can really pick it. - xjeffx, on 07/11/2009, -0/+2I can't wait to draft players for my fantasy team next season based on arm strength.
- inactive, on 07/11/2009, -0/+2Gotta agree with you there, rockon. I've played baseball for 18 years and while inconsistent strike zones infuriate me, the imperfect strike zone is very much a part of the game.
Catchers are taught since little league how to frame pitches, build a report with umpires and steal strikes. Any pitcher that makes it to the majors has encountered with an almost infinite number of terrible umpires along his path to the big leagues. Good pitchers learn to adjust to the umpire who is calling the game that day. Bad pitchers let the umpire beat them.
Finally, the textbook definition of the strike zone is not anywhere close to what is being called today. In the rule book, the strike zone is supposed to be from the bottom of your arm pits to the top of your knees. In actuality, however, strikes are generally called only on balls that are anywhere from the bottom of your knee caps to the bottom of your belt. The MLB tried to install a computer system to call strikes and balls in Arizona a few years back and the players were complaining mightily because the computer was using the textbook definition of the strike zone. The computers could be programmed to call this version of the strike zone, but I still think it would take away from the give and take relationship established by the battery and the umpire. - bryantee, on 07/13/2009, -0/+1Rodriguez has pretty good defensive skills.
- Zipko, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1I've seen them use this kind of thing in football for a few years now to show ball speed and distance of passes. Soccer uses it to record total miles ran for each player.
- DirtPile, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1You misread.
- Tegurit34, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1Since Kenji Johjima came stateside and ticked off color broadcasters and even his own pitchers because he allegedly didn't frame pitches like American catchers are taught, there have been strikezone studies performed with Pitch F/X (a triangulated camera system aimed at the front of the plate that is now installed at all parks) that have shown 19 out of 20 times it has no tangible effect on an umpire's decision for called balls and strikes. In fact, Pitch F/X finds that a given umpire is not even consistent from game to game.
Lots of people complain when things that have been done for eons change for the better, and this is especially true in the Good 'Ol Boy network of MLB. If Pitch F/X was left to call balls at strikes, players would get used to it and quit moaning. We still need the umpire at the plate for reasons other than pitch calling so I wouldn't call for removal, but it shouldn't at all be difficult to quickly relay information to him. Say, a buzzer in one hand for a ball and the other for a strike. Or something. - STPZ, on 07/10/2009, -2/+3But still no official review, fair or foul
- inactive, on 07/11/2009, -1/+1Relax, champ. I was affecting crotchety old man speech-not to be taken seriously.
- inactive, on 07/11/2009, -3/+3Get yer damn computers off the diamond, ya sumsabitches.
- DirtPile, on 07/11/2009, -3/+1Then how will fights start?
And how will stights fart? - statdat, on 07/11/2009, -6/+2too bad it's still baseball
- wolfing, on 07/11/2009, -7/+1How many days til Football starts?
- whiterabbitobj, on 07/11/2009, -10/+2Fwew! Before this there was no way I could enjoy a game of baseball but now I can get all the unnecessary information I always needed to make this game fun!
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