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- raywatson, on 01/29/2009, -2/+79When is someone going to build a nice electric car that normal people can afford?
- copypastry, on 01/30/2009, -0/+25Who the ***** cares about the "most powerful electric car"
How about a "world's most accessible" electric car? - sbassoli, on 01/30/2009, -1/+18"The car will boast a range of 150-200 miles on a single charge. Moreover, SSC’s Green division has trademarked an on-board charging system called “Charge on the Run,” which enables a 10 minute full battery recharge on a 220V service."
Leprechauns also pop out of the glove compartment to massage you while you're charging. - pamelaj7, on 01/30/2009, -2/+19Please please watch "who killed the electric car?"
GM already did it, they just didn't WANT it to work,
the car was LOVED by it's owners, reliable, and
better in so many ways.... it was never marketed to the public and most didn't know it existed or was practical.
The thought that electric cars are not practical or too expensive
is a myth. The technology exists, there are batteries available now that allow them to travel for hundreds of miles at high speeds, and they even look cool! ITS UP TO THE CONSUMER TO DEMAND the change, to educate themselves, etc. - CptnEvilStomper, on 01/30/2009, -1/+17Tesla had plans to start producing a $60,000 high performance electric sedan called the Model S, but they haven't been able to get the venture capital they needed to actually build the plant and start manufacturing, so now the whole thing is kind of up in the air. After that they were planning on releasing a $30,000 sedan in 2012, the production of which would have been funded by sales from the Model S, the same way the Model S was supposed to be funded using profits from the Roaster. Hopefully they can this sorted out and get back on track; otherwise all we have to look forward to in the mid-range is a couple of egg-shaped Hondas and some Toyotas that look like they were designed by an 8-year-old.
- jackdaniels06, on 01/30/2009, -1/+14Come on guys, look at history. This is the way things have always worked. Cell phones, computers, the first car, etc. you name it. The wealthy have always had there hands on them first and then later on it becomes affordable to the rest of us. Don't you guys remember, we all have short memories, when wide screen flat TVs were $20,000.00. I remember seeing one at a convention in the mid 90's. It's always been like due to prohibitive costs but eventually it makes its way to people like us normal mortals.
- TheCooler72, on 01/30/2009, -1/+13Exactly, forget about power, and just get them on the roads. Lots of them. For us. To buy.
- GrammerPants, on 01/30/2009, -0/+10Not directly. However that tec eventually filters down to the main stream. Which is good for everyone.
- Smuikas, on 01/30/2009, -0/+8http://www.caranddriving.com/features2/300/Radio%2 ...
- FishHammer, on 01/30/2009, -3/+11I wonder if they realize that people want an electric car to save money. Spending $500,000+ on an electric car doesn't do a damn thing for your average driver.
- bbourgeois, on 01/30/2009, -0/+8Actually, that is not true. What you may find is that producing exotic, high performance cars may lead the market and help to disprove some of the myths about electric cars. One of which is that they are slow, and that even those that are quick to 60 are highly limited in top speed. This car would disprove both.
If you recall, most of the things that we have commonplace today were not created as affordable and practical at first: cell phones, computers, etc all were prohibitively expensive at first and only gradually came down in price. These cars are a little different, in that they exceed the requirements needed, rather than gradually approach them, but this actually helps establish electric cars as a viable option. If we can see them as equal replacements to internal combustion, not compromises, then they will take off better. True, this car may be impractical, but it shows that the power is there, and it can eventually be harnessed for a more practical use - eg. sedan. That engine would do well in a sedan, though with less performance. The critical thing in this instance is range, which is at the lower limits of practicality in this application and would decrease if used in a sedan, which is why it still needs work.
Also, at this time electric technology (batteries mostly) is very expensive, which is why it is most profitable for use in exotic and expensive cars. A practical sedan would be relatively expensive for what it offers if it used the current electric technology. And yes, there are some examples available (use google ;) ) Once it is cheaper, we will find it more commonplace. I for one look forward to that! :) - jsauter, on 01/30/2009, -0/+8Golf cart?
- Wargala, on 01/30/2009, -0/+7I'm gonna have to call shenanigans here. Pics, or it doesn't exist
- peestandingup, on 01/30/2009, -9/+15And I care about this why??
Everyone at this point should only be concerned with producing affordable & practical electric cars. - diggB, on 01/30/2009, -0/+6I bet you got exhausted ...
- MogusMaximus, on 01/30/2009, -0/+6From the comments on gas2.org
I highly doubt the claims coming out of SSC regarding “charge on the run”, so let me do 2 things.
1. I want to be the first (on this forum) to call “vaporware” on SSC.
and …
2. I want to wish SSC all the luck in the world. If they can deliver on even half their promises (which, for them, would be a big improvement!) this could be a big leap forward in battery tech.
"Jo’s comments should be obvious to anyone except the impressionable optimists who invest in all these power point presentations. The 90s were the decade of the dot com get rich quick scheme. Now we are in the decade of the green miracle get rich quick scheme. I’ll be the first to predict the results will be the same."
I’m going to have to second Joe’s opinion and call bull*&#t on Shelby’s 10 minute recharge claim. First, they claimed a 10 minute recharge on 110v, which is just plain impossible, and increasing the voltage to 220v only halves what is already an astronomical amount of current required to recharge a battery that large, that fast. Given the fact that they changed their announcement from 110V to 220V shortly after their press release, I’d say that the whole thing is vaporware. - trollick, on 01/30/2009, -1/+7I tried to have sex with a car once, there's nothing pleasant about it.
- UselessTrivia, on 01/30/2009, -0/+6$30,000 is still not a car most people can afford. They need to get these things down to under $25,000 to really see any upside in the middle income market.
It'll be interesting to see how well electric cars retain their value for resale. Most people buy used cars, so you won't see electrics take off until the early adopters are buying their second or third one. But if they retain their value better than gas-engine cars that will probably take longer. - AlaskaLoneWolf, on 01/30/2009, -3/+7I think it's a good idea for these cars to be made. The more the better.
- brimg87, on 01/30/2009, -0/+4Yay for innovation!
- bbtrev, on 01/30/2009, -0/+4If you read the article, and not just the looked at the pictures, you would have seen this:
"A new green division, known as SSC Green, Inc., will offer packaged solutions of the AESP for a range of applications, including 200 horsepower economy and midsize cars, 500 horsepower light trucks and SUVs, and up to 1,200 horsepower delivery trucks, heavy-duty equipment, buses and military vehicles."
The Aero is the fanfare, but these guys have some meat to their plans. - inactive, on 01/30/2009, -0/+3You should care about this for the reason that most of the people who dismissed electric car technology, did so by saying "Ohhh you cant pass a car on the highway, its too slow". Well here ya go, a car thats super fast that rich folks will buy and in turn, help the company invest in batteries that kick even more ass.
Only problem is, a car going that fast, will probably kill alot of blind people. - drewbe121212, on 01/30/2009, -1/+4Wow. I wish I could design a car that is unrealistic in goals only to never produce it.
You win again, Shelby! - Frozo, on 01/30/2009, -1/+4A silent-running car that goes from 0-60 mph in 2.5 seconds doesn't sound dangerous at all........
- JT114881, on 01/30/2009, -0/+3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5sOCEUpGZI
- repmekevets, on 01/30/2009, -1/+4wahhhhh. wet blanket. this car is still a thousand times better for the environment than whatever the hell you drive.
- bbtrev, on 01/30/2009, -0/+2Read the article.....it is only 4 tiny paragraphs. I think your concerns will be addressed.
- jasdf, on 01/30/2009, -0/+2The capacitors may be able to accept a full charge in 10 minutes, but the bottleneck is the amount of current that a 220v line can handle.
- likuidM5, on 01/30/2009, -0/+2Isn't it a no brainer that the most powerful electric car will launch this year? Chances are, 2010 will produce one that's even more powerful and so on
- CJ117, on 01/30/2009, -1/+3hahahaha an electric car that people can afford?
That saves them money?
WHAT A LAUGH!!!
Like that's gonna happen... This technology will never be available to the public until a way is found to profit the hell out of it! If everyone needs an electric car, everyone can get equally ripped off!
Until that day.. - C4Aries, on 01/30/2009, -0/+2These guys did build the fasted production car.. ever. And it costs less than half as much as the Veyron. I wouldent put it past them.
- fireman8871, on 01/30/2009, -0/+2what about Aptera launching in October? Nicest car around
http://Apteraforum.com - alappat1, on 01/30/2009, -0/+2SuperOmegaSlack , if you calculate the amount of energy needed to allow a car to have a 200mile range (1.58 billion Joules for a 2007 Nissan Maxima ), and then calculate the wattage (power) necessary to fill the batteries in 10 min, (2.64 million W), You see that even using 3 phase 220V supply won't get the amperage down below several thousand amps, which would vaporize the wires! (That last calculation is hard to do- involves trigonometric calculations and i can't be bothered to do that for a comment on digg) Now a 220KV supply on the other hand may be able handle that in about 1to 2 hrs.
- pamelaj7, on 01/30/2009, -0/+2yes,
but making them cool and putting them out there so people know they exist is a good first step! At least people will KNOW about them this time around. - deMonkey, on 01/30/2009, -1/+3@ UselessTrivia: If someone can afford a $25k gas car, I would think they could afford a $30k electric car that never required fuel or the maintenance costs of an ICE powered car.
- mineforlife, on 01/31/2009, -0/+1SSC was only founded in 1999
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelby_SuperCars - bainfu, on 01/31/2009, -0/+1The Aptera is a cool concept, however it's too motorcycle-ey for me. I'm really impressed with the performance of these electric cares like the Aero EV and Tesla vehicles. I'm interested to see if this will ever fall into the racing circuits like NASCAR or Formula One. It'd be nice to goto a track and not require earplugs.
- inactive, on 01/30/2009, -0/+1Forget aobut the most powerful, I want to see a common everyday electric car that anyone can buy.
- Frozo, on 01/31/2009, -0/+1For reals?
- Seaton, on 01/30/2009, -0/+1Should call it the GLHE
"Goes Like Hell, Electric"
For those of you who didn't know, Shelby actually built some modified Chrysler autos back in the 80's called the GLH and GLHS.
Goes Like Hell and Goes Like Hell Some more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelby_GLHS - HerbSolo, on 01/31/2009, -0/+1forklift?
- Morwynd, on 01/30/2009, -0/+1I've been keeping my eye on the Triac, by Green Vehicles (http://greenvehicles.com).
Price: ~$20k, top speed: 130kph, range: 160km. Perfect for the city and still powerful enough for some highway driving.
They're already accepting (fully refundable) reservation orders.
There is a hidden cost, however, to be aware of. The batteries will only last 5-10 years (or less) and are very expensive ($8k?) to replace... but you're going to see that with any pure electric. - Seaton, on 01/31/2009, -0/+1I guess that's what I get for being a car nut. You say Shelby, I think Carroll Shelby.
The real Shelby should sue. - zuiquan, on 01/30/2009, -0/+1Jesus ***** Christ this was on the front page two days ago. Much better discussions in the other post as well.
- bainfu, on 01/31/2009, -0/+10-60 in 2.5 seconds.
If you're in to that sort of thing. - brad3378, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1That conspiracy theory movie conveniently made no mention of the cost of the batteries.
That's the main reason why the $100,000 Tesla supercar costs so much.
It has 6800 lithium ion laptop batteries. A typical laptop battery costs about $100, so do the math.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/car_page_con ... - alvarezg, on 01/30/2009, -0/+1The 200 mile range is doubtful for anything that isn't light as a feather. Even 100 is an accomplishment. The 10-minute recharge claim is totally absurd.
- flamingduck, on 01/30/2009, -0/+1If they can do this then what the heck is taking the Fat Three so long?
- UselessTrivia, on 01/30/2009, -0/+1Interesting that 2009 may finally be the year of the electric car.
It's 100% possible for battery tech to provide a 200-300 mile range. What's ***** is the idea that you could charge it in 10 minutes. Battery-limits aside, to actually pull that much current you'd need to plug in at a substation. Household current isn't going to pump out something in the MW/hr range. - HerbSolo, on 01/31/2009, -0/+1yeah - the squeaking thing in the cloud of tire smoke will be the car.
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