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  • ravamp3, on 03/27/2008, -34/+7Tata Motors of India just bought Jaguar and Land Rover from Ford... really wish Hyundai would've bought them instead...
    • notoneofus, on 03/27/2008, -1/+19Why? India is a former British colony, and I think it's fitting that its largest automaker now has the clout to take in these two brands, which have a legacy in their country. They're releasing innovative technology and have a strong understanding of how both brands fit into their changing identity. Ford owning Jag and Land Rover always seemed off to me, and not really integrated (though they did improve reliability).

      Hyundai, on the other hand, is little more than an economy car manufacturer who has honed its skills over time. Hyundais took a long time on the market to become stable, let alone reliable. Now, they produce average cars with low resale value, and only differentiate on price. Why would they be a good choice to own two iconic British brands?
    • prophetpimp, on 03/27/2008, -1/+6Seriously? Hyundai? Tata kicks more ass then Hyundai, They own Steel Plants that are among the best, The Taj Hotel which is a part of their group is one of the best luxury Hotels in the world. They are the first Company to be involved in Formula one (TCS makes Ferrari Software), The list goes on and on.
    • tugger, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1Tata also bought up just about every decent automotive design house in the USA and europe, and have very close links to lots of top manufacturers (Bentley - engine design, Mercedes - body in white, Bugatti - external hardware) and so are an excellent 'parent' to these small exclusive brands. BTW Tata are linked to a potential purchase of the magna group worldwide, a huge automotive and aero supplier who happen to make the Mercedes M-Class amongst other vehicles..
  • raz98, on 03/27/2008, -9/+150to many...lines..
    • jc7012, on 03/27/2008, -2/+77*too
    • robinohio1, on 03/27/2008, -16/+3There are too many cars. Then again, too bad the ***** ones are American cars...except Ford. Ford seems to do all right, but that junk that GM and Chrysler is horrible. I doubt either one will be with us for much longer, thankfully.

      I will go anything with European or Japanese. They know how to make quality cars that last 20 years. We cars that will be in landfills in 10 years here in the US.
      • krets, on 03/27/2008, -2/+11I think that might be the stupidest thing I've read in quite a while. You do realize that American and 'imports" are pretty much made in the same places these days right?
        • PhantomZmoove, on 03/27/2008, -0/+7The domestic guys have been bringing the quality up on their models over the last few years. Granted, they aren't in line with the imports yet but still.

          It doesn't really matter where the cars are made, its who decides how they are made. The Japanese just know how to make a better car.
        • robinohio1, on 03/27/2008, -2/+4It does not matter where the car is made. The foreign car makers have quality controls and standards that American cars either cannot or will not live up to. People wonder why the American car makers are losing their ass and you do not see a model from 10 year ago on the road. People in Europe and Asia buy and car and keep it for 20 years or more. Americans do not do that.
        • buddahead9, on 03/27/2008, -2/+1I didn't see one car older than 10 years old while in Japan. though that probably is due to strickter emission requirement than the car breaking down...
      • falkonv7l, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2Unless you have taken the time to really drive a good range of most those makes you really have no place judging them. I have spent 7 years in the auto industry and I feel say Audi and BMW sand out above the majority (price not factored)
        • willskillz, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2yeah, they totally "sand" out! I had an old Audi 80 when i lived in Germany and that thing ran like a champ.
          • falkonv7l, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2"sand"...........lol.....*shakes head*

            Audi 80 was a great car!
          • subliminalurge, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2I've been very happy with the Nissans I've owned. All were over 10 years old when I purchased them, and not a single one was retired for mechanical failures. The 200SX died due to being rear ended by a drunk driver, and both 300ZXs I simply stopped driving because the bodies were rusting away. All were still running perfectly on the days I got rid of them, though.

            That said, I've been been treated well by my American made trucks, too. I have a GMC Jimmy and a Dodge Durango, both 98 models, that have proven to be very reliable with well over 200,000 miles on both of them. Then again, trucks are built to a different standard of ruggedness than cars.
      • Whippets, on 03/28/2008, -1/+2You not good sentences do you?
      • twinklyJesus, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1The Japanese have successfully marketed glitzed up economy cars to the world and convinced everyone they are worth the prices asked. When IMHO, the Accura is the car Honda should be offering as its Accord, Lexus is what Toyota should be offering as their base car, etc.

        The Japanese have mastered predatory capitalism and mass marketing.
    • davidlyness, on 03/27/2008, -0/+14At least I'm not the only one who finds this ridiculously hard to follow.
      • PhantomZmoove, on 03/27/2008, -1/+4Oh its not bad, it gets easier to follow each time I see it posted. :)
    • jlmillstein, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3I've been waiting for this chart for a long time.
    • falkonv7l, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1That is pretty bad, I would like to take a shot at it, if I had all of the correct data. I wonder where he got it?
    • WildTurkey101, on 03/27/2008, -3/+0This was way cooler LAST YEAR when this was on Digg.
    • caramba420, on 03/28/2008, -0/+0yeah, it looks just like my family tree.
    • zaxroom, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2What you got there is a grade A cluster *****.
  • djepik, on 03/27/2008, -10/+25Direct link:

    http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/images/gallery/12 ...
    • Skrenlin, on 03/27/2008, -4/+60The *real* direct link that jalopnik stole this from:

      http://www.toomanycars.info/CarRelationship/Auto%2 ...
      • popfrogs, on 03/27/2008, -2/+8Thanks for that. This ***** blog _still_ didn't have the full sized high res version that you linked to.
        • ccheath, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1they do get a lot of spy photos... if you know of a site with more please let me know cuz they do this kind of crap all the time too... however if it hadn't been on digg i'd never have found the toomanycars.info site and image either... so thanks everyone involved for making this happen
    • jlmillstein, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3I see now where the name "General Motors" comes from.
  • borez, on 03/27/2008, -7/+61From first looking at that chart I would've immediately have thought GM flat out owns Fiat, whereas in reality it only has a 10% stake. It need serious revision in the big red line dept.
    • denhamcoote, on 03/27/2008, -2/+25I suppose that's what the "10%" on the big red line is for, hmm?
    • twistymcgee, on 03/27/2008, -1/+9Yeah I think they need another colored line that indicates that they just own a share and not the whole thing.
    • kelmaster1, on 03/27/2008, -1/+3A lot of companies own shares in different markets or competitors. It's brilliant really, if large companies own large shares of other automakers, they have diversified their market so even if their product doesn't sell they're still getting a return on investment. Its kinda like a bank funding both sides of a war, it's a win win situation (for the bank, not the people.)
      • fucknuggets, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1and that's why it doesn't matter whether you buy import or domestic because some of the money will always come back. its also why the big 3 will never go out of business
    • pjkli, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4On another note: GM has some stake in Isuzu as well. I'm curious why this is not on the map.
    • Zindrix, on 03/27/2008, -2/+2GM bought a share in Fiat for $6 Billion for their diesel engine. Shortly after, they were heavily criticized for the bad investment.
  • JosephDurnal, on 03/27/2008, -13/+5Neat. This sort of reminds me of a similar map of the aircraft industry from 1945 to 1995, it started out with tons of companies, some just dead end but most were bought up or merged with other companies down to just a few in the end.
    Joseph Durnal
    • ilves7, on 03/27/2008, -1/+12Do you really need to sign your name at the bottom when your profile name is identically the same?
      • monkeyvoodoo, on 03/28/2008, -3/+3As opposed to identically different? Also, they're not identical - his signature has a space, where his profile name doesn't...
    • ecarver530, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1There are a ton of airlines out there, esp with the bigger ones losing money like there's no tomorrow.
    • fucknuggets, on 03/27/2008, -3/+3i ***** hate people that sign there post its ***** stupid. ***** do you think were to ***** lazy to read your goddamn username
  • shempey, on 03/27/2008, -1/+143well that really cleared things up...
    • GregofJersey, on 03/27/2008, -8/+0Yeah, it's easier to read this that it is to try and follow Wikipedia pages.... @.@
    • SupaFurry, on 03/28/2008, -1/+2No it didn... ahhhh... I see what you did there...
  • castevens, on 03/27/2008, -2/+76I feel overwhelmed with knowledge
  • Nerve55, on 03/27/2008, -2/+4That makes it all better.
  • Sarki, on 03/27/2008, -2/+18I had no idea there were so many joint ventures in the industry. Is there any true competition anymore on low end cars?
  • slimjim5811, on 03/27/2008, -3/+164From King of the Hill
    Dale Gribble: "You know what the problem is? It's a Ford. You know what Ford stands for? Fix It Again Tony."
    Hank Hill: "Dale, that's a Fiat."
    • LaueOfficer, on 03/27/2008, -1/+12Hey, at least Ford circled their problem.
    • ryan926, on 03/27/2008, -2/+4FORD
      Fix Or Repair Daily or
      Found On Roadside Daily
      either way, it's logical.
      • bossm4n, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3Close, but it's supposed to be Found On Road Dead.
    • armondadgar, on 03/28/2008, -0/+0Found On Road Dead in the more extreme situations....
    • GaijinTenshi, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1Found on Russian Dump
    • LStone, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2***** On Race Day?
  • rollem, on 03/27/2008, -7/+45Um, according to this, BMW owns BMW. I think believe they're wrong. BMW just owns a small portion of BMW.
    • justjoehere, on 03/27/2008, -1/+17Nope, BMW owns BMW.
    • Ragarnok, on 03/27/2008, -2/+14Does that mean I could buy BMW and not actually own BMW?
    • MattDell, on 03/27/2008, -0/+8BMW AG owns BMW. They really need text in this graphic. It's a bit misleading (in other aspects, as well).
      • Bluejaye, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3To clarify, AG and GmbH are just German designations like Inc, Corp, LLC in English/USA
      • DubbedOver, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1They are all recently acquired, wholly-owned subsidiaries of Hadden industries.
    • Mist0r_Wiggles, on 03/27/2008, -0/+9You thing that's confusing, apparently VW owns VW which is already owned by VW.
      • megarobotguy, on 03/27/2008, -1/+1Not for long recently Porsche has increased their market share of Volkswagen AG by more than 50 percent.
      • MattDell, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3Yeah, Porsche owns VW now by German law. I can't for the life of me figure out why they show VW owning Porsche.
        Actually, I guess the line is correct, but without a directional arrow you assume VW owns Porsche. This map needs improvement.
    • Locke23, on 03/27/2008, -1/+7It's a Trap!
    • tugger, on 03/28/2008, -1/+1Actually BMW is 100% wholly owned by a nice old dear called Edith Quant who lives in London. She has no kids or decedants, and stubbornly refuses to sell any part of the company.
      Volkswagen is owned 1/3 by the wolfsburg local council (the shares originally given to them for free from the British army who resurrected VW after WWII), 1/3 owned by the piech family (who own/manage porsche) and the remaining shares owned by the general public.
  • moo113, on 03/27/2008, -9/+43In Canada we always used, "Found On Road Dead".
    • rickyg67, on 03/27/2008, -26/+9Thats funny, in America we say "Shut your damn mouth and build your own cars."
      • SpaceMonkeyZero, on 03/27/2008, -2/+13It's funny that GM moved plants to Ontario for the cheap labor.
        • MiDri, on 03/27/2008, -1/+18Thats not backfiring at all with the Canadian dollar being more then the us dollar now...
          • SpaceMonkeyZero, on 03/27/2008, -1/+11Well it made sense in the mid nineties. And now we can blame Canada for Detroit's sagging economy and high unemployment!
          • kicksomeass, on 03/27/2008, -0/+10Take THAT America!
        • ccheath, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1it wasn't for cheap labor they probably pay about the same, what it is for is for not having to pay healthcare costs for all the retiring plant workers
          at least that's what i thought it was for, right?
    • ubpsanity, on 03/27/2008, -1/+11Ya, I know Canada builds half the Ford vehicles. Canada should have Canadian cars.
    • iet2004, on 03/27/2008, -1/+24Down in GA we say "***** Over and Rebuilt Dodge". Even though i think we drive more fords down here than dodge....whatever.
      • ricksite, on 03/27/2008, -0/+6If the Dodges are rebuilt into Fords, it makes sense that you see more Fords!
    • KennMac, on 03/27/2008, -0/+28Fix Or Repair Daily
    • Gustomucho, on 03/27/2008, -0/+27On the way back : Driver Return On Foot.
    • terajoule, on 03/27/2008, -0/+9Forward Only Rolling Downhill.
    • ngross, on 03/27/2008, -0/+12***** Out Right Dangerous
    • AlphAssassin, on 03/27/2008, -0/+6***** only rolls downhill
    • arma, on 03/27/2008, -2/+4Need more FORDs, it is getting really funny, never heard these ones before.
    • intent, on 03/27/2008, -2/+2For only retarded drivers
    • almightyzam, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3Fast Only Runnin Downhill
    • m0zzie, on 03/27/2008, -1/+4here in australia, ford lovers say "First On Race Day"

      i call ***** though
    • UnstableMind, on 03/27/2008, -3/+1I've always heard First On Race Day!
    • aaronadms, on 03/27/2008, -2/+2Fix It Again Tony
    • tugger, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3Lotus... Lots of tiresome unscheduled servicing

      and thats appropriate now that they have GM engines...
    • skoobisnaxs, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3i know its extremely racist, but my dad always told me Pontiac stood for "Poor Old Ni*ger Thought It was A Cadillac."
      • KennMac, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3Poor Old Nigga Thinks It's a Cadillac.

        There I fixed it.
  • bjarkebech, on 03/27/2008, -2/+6Great chart. The car industry is so confusing now, it's nice to see who owns who
  • superrandomguy, on 03/27/2008, -2/+49i wish the big version of the picture was higher resolution :-(
  • HellGlitch, on 03/27/2008, -13/+20I'm so glad Honda is in it's own category, Such good cars.
    • nonymous666, on 03/27/2008, -0/+10The Honda Passport was just a rebadged Isuzu Rodeo.

      Honda also almost came out with a SUV a couple years ago that was going to be made by Land Rover (Ford). The deal fell through.
      • g00fball, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1dude....how many years ago was that? Whatever mistake they made (and no excusing it as a major faux pas on Honda's part) with rebadging the Rodeo, they made it up by selling V6 to GM/Saturn and raised Saturn's credibility several notches.
    • nevpayne, on 03/27/2008, -4/+0Appears to be the only one left... unless you count Lotus and the Proton.
    • Zindrix, on 03/27/2008, -3/+4Yeah but they have failed to badge their luxury brand Acura as anything different than a more expensive Honda.
      • nonymous666, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Except for the NSX. Sweet ride back in its prime.
    • wrestlingnrj, on 03/27/2008, -9/+4If slow, economy boxes are you're thing, then yes good cars.
      • blueloop68, on 03/27/2008, -1/+5Did you just time travel here from 1980?
      • Beenard, on 03/27/2008, -3/+7Hold On Not Done Accelerating
      • saikyan, on 03/27/2008, -0/+5For starters, the V6 Accord hauls ass like no family sedan should, and the S2000 is a well established and respected sports car...
      • xevidentx, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4rsx type-s, s2000, accord v6?
    • m1zl3d, on 03/27/2008, -1/+3Yeah I love my little Honda.

      A guy at work just last week had his battery die and he needed someone to jump him off. I've always had jumper cables in my car in case of an emergency so I volunteered to help him. I drove my Honda ('98 Prelude) around to where he was parked to jump him off. When I pulled up he looked at me funny and kind of scoffed and made a little wise crack about how it would take all day for my Honda to get his almighty Bronco jumped off.

      I didn't say a word to him...I hooked the cables up and 1-2 minutes later I had him jumped off. I still didn't say a word to him. I just got in my car and drove away. =p That's the last time I help him though. He can Flintstone his Ford home next time.
      • MScrip, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4> "he looked at me funny and kind of scoffed and made a little wise crack about how it would take all day for my Honda to get his almighty Bronco jumped off."

        Doesn't that guy know that Hondas use REAL car batteries? It doesn't matter what kind of car pulls up, it will have a battery big enough to run the car and jump another. What a moron! I'm curious to know what battery his almighty Bronco uses... probably some Wal-Mart brand battery... woohoo
      • Whippets, on 03/28/2008, -2/+1Totally relevant.

        /sarcasm
    • tugger, on 03/28/2008, -2/+1hondas are great, if you're over 70 and take it shopping twice a year.
      • Fixadent, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1i dunno what country your getting your hondas from
  • xlar54, on 03/27/2008, -2/+4Yeah but what the hell is that green penis looking thing with eyes?
    • techeric, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4Perhaps it is a green penis ... with eyes. :)

      Maybe they make the Oscar Meyer mobile?
      • Whippets, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1Who owns the Oscar Meyer mobile anyhow?
  • RFtesla, on 03/27/2008, -0/+7Could have used a better representation of who is the owners I think. There was another one of these maps on here a couple of months back that was pretty good.
  • iidestined, on 03/27/2008, -4/+42Toyota owns Subaru? My world has turned upside down.
    • ubpsanity, on 03/27/2008, -7/+1It gets worse, Nissan and Renault are partners.

      I guess I'm OK with that as long as Nissan doesn't start using any funny French designs :-)
      • fuzzlog, on 03/27/2008, -1/+0Sorry to say. If you own a fairly recent Nissan, it has been probably been designed by Renault.
      • CrashOne, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1they may not use French Design but they do use a French engine.
      • saikyan, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Wha? The Nissan-Renault partnership has been one of the few really successful partnerships in the industry! It's all about Carlos Ghosn. Eight or so years ago they were in the crapper, now they're a force to be reckoned with.
    • gtluke, on 03/27/2008, -6/+3a percent
      its also why the impreza got so lamed up recently. toyota influence to make ordinary boring cars for your mom.
      • ricksite, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4I doubt Toyota has much of an influence. Subaru makes some Toyota models in their factories.
    • nonymous666, on 03/27/2008, -5/+2They own 20%, not the whole thing.
      • ricksite, on 03/27/2008, -0/+7GM owned 20% of Subaru. Toyota bought shares from GM and owns 8.7%. I think the rest went on the market.
    • iet2004, on 03/27/2008, -2/+4so is mine. And here I was wondering why Subarus had gotten so boring-looking. And when they do try to add some excitement (WRX), it's super ugly. Now it's like, "Duh!!! Toyota doesn't know how to design a sports car!" Have you seen the "sport" versions of their corollas and camrys. Worst. Body. Kit. Ever.
      • sgxyay, on 03/27/2008, -2/+1The Scion tC is pretty rad looking in my opinion (for a budget sports car). Honda really grabbed that snub-nose look for the newer Civics.
      • antonio97b, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Old school 2 door 2.5rs' rocked. You could mob that thing all day long it would keep going!
      • omgdspmpg, on 03/27/2008, -1/+1toyota doesn't know how to design a sports car? you are smoking gigantic crack rocks. two words: supra turbo.
        the problem with the new WRX designs have nothing to do with toyota.
        • doubad, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1Ah yes, holdon while i buy myself a brand new supra turbo.... Oh thats right, they stoped selling those so we can have a larger variety or grandma cars. My grandparents will be so happy.
    • vtdanokim, on 03/27/2008, -1/+2GM used to own 20% of Fuji Heavy Industries. They sold 10% to Toyota, then sold the other 10% on the open market.
      GM also used to own Isuzu, then sold that to Toyota.
      I'm starting to see a trend here...
    • ricksite, on 03/27/2008, -0/+6Toyota only owns 8.7% of Subaru. Before that, GM owned 20%. Previous to that, Nissan owned the shares. Subaru's still share some parts with Nissan.
      • antonio97b, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Thats why the subie R160 LSDs mate nicely with the rest of the nissan parts. sr20 with r160 lsd. Just had to shorten the drive shaft.
    • flashingcurser, on 03/27/2008, -1/+9Toyota is a fine auto manufacturer, why is your world upside down?
      • iidestined, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4I love Toyota. I just didn't know. Thats all. :)
        • flashingcurser, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4Fair enough, dugg for honesty
      • Zindrix, on 03/27/2008, -5/+2Toyota makes boring cars for boring people.

        Note: I'm excluding Scion and Lotus.
      • saikyan, on 03/27/2008, -1/+1Toyota gets slammed because they're very successful, and their mainstream products are conservative (read: boring). They're just an easy target... it's sort of like slamming Microsoft.
        • Zindrix, on 03/27/2008, -1/+2That's not really why I said what I did. I dislike Toyota badge vehicles because they are conservative/boring, and Lexus because they are one of the only luxury brands (in their market) that does not make performance luxury vehicles. Mercedes, BMW, and Audi are all in the same price bracket as Lexus yet they also make sport/luxury cars and Lexus keeps making cars for seniors.

          Additionally, some of Lexus's lower end models are just re-badged Solara's and Avalon's.
  • getisboy, on 03/27/2008, -9/+3old
  • DrZocktahedron, on 03/27/2008, -1/+65Who owns the batmobile?
    • edwartica, on 03/27/2008, -0/+7I think Barbara Gordon got it in the sexual harassment suit against Robin.
    • eazhar, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1win
    • psykiv, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1GM unofficially claimed ownership of it a few years ago with the onstar batman commercials.
      • bigsteve, on 03/27/2008, -1/+1Just got a vision of Batman sitting on the Batmobile with the hood up on the side of the road, looking sullen, waving for people to go around him...

        GM = General Maintenance
      • smpdigital, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1Ford, the Batmobile was actually a concept Lincoln, a 1955 Lincoln Futura
    • antonio97b, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2Wayne Enterprises?
    • almightyzam, on 03/27/2008, -4/+1I do bitch...
    • UnstableMind, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1I believe the BatMobile was built on a Pontiac Trans-Am/Firebird Frame (in original movie(s)). Not 100% sure though, just remember reading 'bout it in the past.
      • ostkman, on 03/28/2008, -1/+0You typed the same amount of words for 'bout, instead of about. You vaginal fart.
    • univerio, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Hmm, I think it's the guy in the black-blue tights with a cape and a logo of a sillhouette of a bat, but I'm just guessing though.
    • PT1989, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1batman maybe?
  • iDoraemon, on 03/27/2008, -4/+14Well, it looks like Ford still owns suck.
  • revansii, on 03/27/2008, -1/+66When did Samsung start making vehicles?
    • edwartica, on 03/27/2008, -0/+9Maybe I can drive them with my phone!
    • flashingcurser, on 03/27/2008, -0/+15Samsung makes a little of everything.
    • gtapro92, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1when did apple start making phones?
  • heartcoldfusion, on 03/27/2008, -3/+29*****
  • gtluke, on 03/27/2008, -6/+1they forgot mitsubishi? the heavy industries is in there but not the car manufacturer.
    • iet2004, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4Look under chrysler's tree. the heavy industries (i assume you mean fuso) is over with daimler.
  • mparker7410, on 03/27/2008, -2/+4Surprised to see Honda just out on an island like that.
    • CrazyDave303, on 03/27/2008, -0/+5and interesting they produce so many different items. maybe their good business model is why they have not yet needed to merge with any one.

      when are they going to start to produce Mecs?
    • ricksite, on 03/27/2008, -0/+6Honda had some sort of affiliation with GM recently. My dad's Saturn Vue has a Honda engine in it. I think GM was providing transmissions to Honda.
      • CrazyDave303, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Good lord, now the Mecs will rust out 2 days after the under body warranty ends
    • Brian48216, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2I think it's a reason as to why Honda does so well.
      Instead of spending time and money eliminating competition by buying up other companies or reducing competition, they just focus on what they do well.
      • carpespasm, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1that and they're just a more lean manufacturer.They don't have 40 bajillion dealerships and a whole lot of workers to pay pension on since they got big more on robotic lines rather than human-driven lines. They haven't done any merging because they havn't needed to.
  • CrazyDave303, on 03/27/2008, -5/+5Hey do you know what Pontiac stands for.... heck I've got balls but I'll not go any farther with this joke.
    • KennMac, on 03/27/2008, -3/+21Poor Old Nigga Thinks It's A Cadillac

      There, I did it.
    • KennMac, on 03/27/2008, -1/+13SAAB - Sorry Asshole Actually Bought-it
      BMW - Black Man's Wish

      Now we can stop tip-toeing around the racial ones.
      • jweatherley, on 03/27/2008, -0/+8Lotus: Lots of trouble - usually serious.
      • psykiv, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4BMW = Break My Window
        • falkonv7l, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3and yes after three weeks with my BMW the windows were smashed in, while parked at my GF's house.
      • falkonv7l, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2Bought My Wife
    • edwartica, on 03/27/2008, -0/+8Painted on nutella tonic in ancient crap?
    • yacks, on 03/27/2008, -7/+2Remember... Subaru spelled backwards is u r a bus.
      • GalacticRerun, on 03/27/2008, -0/+7Wow, enlightening! It means... nothing.
  • imants, on 03/27/2008, -11/+4I can't seem to find Nissan/Infiniti on this map... does anyone see it?
  • reefsurfer226, on 03/27/2008, -2/+3im pretty sure digg has short term memory loss. maybe someone should look into a perscription
    • techeric, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3I don't know what you're talking about... [passes the doobie to the left]
    • edwartica, on 03/27/2008, -0/+5a prescription might help better.
  • dhughes, on 03/27/2008, -0/+9 Doesn't Porsche now own more than 50% of VW after some protectionist laws in Germany were eliminated?
    • hotentot, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0Porsche is working on it, but it still owns "only" around 30%.
    • U2groupie, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1It's not a done deal yet, but should be fairly soon. Volkswagen and Porsche's involvement with each other goes back to the begining of both companies, so there has always been a relationship there. One thing to remember folks, is that just because one manufactuer owns another, doesn't always mean there is any synergy between the companies. Up until I got smart and got out of the car business a few weeks ago, I worked for a Volkswagen/Porsche dealership. You're mistaken if you ever think there is any communication between the two car lines. I've also worked for Isuzu (at the time 51% owned by GM) and there was a bit of sharing between those two companies (especially on consumer trucks). but that's where it ended.
      • dhughes, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1 Yes I've read there is an enormous difference between Porsche and VW.
        VW is a huge company, more passive and very conscious of pleasing the unions compared to Porsche which is a much smaller company and very competitive in business and in employee relations, in other words very strict.
  • LoudMusic, on 03/27/2008, -1/+11You want a "pure" car? Honda, BMW, Lotus.
    • ricksite, on 03/27/2008, -2/+3Both Honda and BMW have used GM transmissions. Honda Passport was an Izuzu.
      • wedgemartin, on 03/27/2008, -1/+5Whoah. What cars did BMW use GM transmissions in? That's news to me. The only American plant I know of that they own is in Spartanburg SC, nowhere near any GM, but it wouldn't surprise me.
      • ostkman, on 03/28/2008, -0/+0Honda used one generation of the Passport, hence the reason why they don't manufacture it anymore. I work for Honda, and everything we make is more American made along with Toyota.

        Everybody in the industry "shares" everybody else's technology, it's whoever can make high quality, inexpensive cars who will be on successful. Honda's main advertisement is word of mouth. Watch out for Chery and Tata Motors.
    • KennMac, on 03/27/2008, -2/+1Just because companies have stake in one another doesn't necessarily mean production and manufacturing within the branch will change. *****, Ford owns Aston Marton...
    • ametory, on 03/27/2008, -1/+1Do you belong to the Clu Car Clan (CCC)
    • undersky, on 03/27/2008, -1/+1glad to know, driving a honda right now and buying a 335i soon (what a beast...).
      • antonio97b, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1You're paying for that beast of a name.
        • LoudMusic, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1"You're paying for that beast of a name."

          You know, I used to have a similar reaction. But that name comes from somewhere. Perhaps they're not worth all heightened cost, but they're definitely worth some of it. They are in fact better cars.
      • ccheath, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1a car flame ware is such a nice change of discourse from the pc/mac/xbox/ps3 flaming ...
    • falkonv7l, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1The Z4 is mostly assembled in the US
  • oooyooo, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Tata just owns two of them ~
    • dontaskagain, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2But tata owns a whole lot more than car firms, Including teatly tea and one of the worlds biggest steel producers. They also just made the worlds cheapest car, coming to a recession hit America soon
    • diggrnumber1, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0the $2500 car!
  • atbnet, on 03/27/2008, -2/+10I didn't know BMW owned Rolls Royce and the Mini. This graph is very confusing though.
    • wedgemartin, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3I knew BMW owned Mini, but not Rolls Royce.
      • jweatherley, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1They don't. They have a licence from Rolls Royce, the aero engine company, to use the name on cars.
    • paintpro, on 03/27/2008, -1/+3I have never seen a Mini sold anywhere but the BMW Store.
    • deff, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1Rolls Royce/Bentley are jointly owned by BMW and VW. They take turns with the rights every so often. Right now, VW has control over Bentley, hence why the Continental GT has a VW twin-turbo W12
  • punksmurph, on 03/27/2008, -1/+1I think the graph misrepresents that Suzuki is owned by GM. Suzuki now has a larger stake in GM then GM has in Suzuki.
  • dregin, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3And there was me thinking this was gonna be about some big automake conspiracy :(
  • 69sofine, on 03/27/2008, -0/+18"You see, GE owns KitchenAll of Colorado, which in turn owns JMI of Stamford which is a majority shareholder of Pokerfastlane.com which recently acquired the Sheinhardt Wig Company which owns NBC outright. NBC owns Winnipeg Iron Works which owns the AHP Chanagi Party Meats company of Pyongyang, North Korea and they will make the Meat Machine."
  • chamberlanderic, on 03/27/2008, -1/+1that why it's all garbage!
    • undersky, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1except the ultimate driving machine.
  • funkdr, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2yikes that is a confusing graph
  • aserer511, on 03/27/2008, -0/+5poorly laid out-claims that mitsu owns benz haha
  • Skull0Inc, on 03/27/2008, -1/+0gr8 i was just discussing this yesterday.....great illustration.
  • cadmiumpaint, on 03/27/2008, -4/+3innacurate list....Ford just unloaded Land Rover and Aston Martin to Tata of India. Porsche is upping its ownership of VW too...
    • dohidied, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1The chart mentions the pending sale of Volvo and Land Rover to Tata. Also, Porsche hasn't increased its stake in VW yet, so why would the chart speculate about it?
    • JensUK, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2Tata's getting Jaguar and Land Rover, not Volvo or Aston Martin.
  • dmarquard, on 03/27/2008, -2/+4They forgot about Plymouth. :/
  • Elissar, on 03/27/2008, -0/+22So you're saying it's pretty much just one big cluster-*****?
  • MrIso, on 03/27/2008, -1/+1There needs to be some sort of link between Lotus and GM. Lotus built the Vauxhall VX220 and the Opel Speedster for GM.

    And where's Tesla?
    • wedgemartin, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Opel made the Cadillac Catera I think. Ah the incest...
    • Zindrix, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1GM gets so many of their automotive platforms from Holden for their main American subsidiaries.
      • ccheath, on 03/28/2008, -1/+1gm is very global... didn't you know?
  • stinkypyper, on 03/27/2008, -1/+6Notice how simple the Honda area is laid. Two companies, thats it.
  • wedgemartin, on 03/27/2008, -4/+4There's a car company called SCAT???
    • blueloop68, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4Find your reading glasses, thats SEAT...
    • smpdigital, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2That's right VWs from spain, originally owned by Fiat and the Spanish Government back in the 60s. SEAT stands for Touring Automobile Spanish Company, the SE syllable is pronounced as in 'center'.
  • FAHQ2, on 03/27/2008, -6/+1where is the telsa roadster ? ( it might be there i cant make out some of the logos)
    • paintpro, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2You have to have sold a car to get on the list, not just have taken orders.
  • flashingcurser, on 03/27/2008, -2/+1Am I the only one who is sad to see a great British marquee like Morris Garages owned by an Asian company? Not that I don't like cars built in Asia, I prefer them really. Its just when I think a of a British car a beautiful MG A-type or chrome bumper B pops into my head. Lovable sports cars for the masses.
    • tugger, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1many of these cars are actually now being made in india... The morris oxford, the morris minor traveller, the mg-bgt, the montego, the hillman hunter (although the minx was made in Peru for a while) are all available new in india.
      • flashingcurser, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1Bgt? really? I owned one once, had a lot fun driving it. Are they made as well made as the British counter parts? With exception of the prince of darkness (Lucus), MG's were very well made cars.
  • raymundo, on 03/27/2008, -5/+0were's nissan?
    • idleidol, on 03/28/2008, -0/+0middle-right, under Renault.

      I love my Altima's big ghetto booty.
  • Soken, on 03/27/2008, -0/+11arrows rather then red lines could have made this better
  • matt.rubin, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3I didn't know VW owned Bentley and Lambo.......

    Anyone see any rivalry's that would effect how I think of a team in F1?
    • CompTechNSX, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3Not really, no.... Renault, Toyota, BMW, Ferrari, Honda, Mercedes are all pretty well separated
    • falkonv7l, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Remember when Bently was winning in LeMans it was really a hopped up R8 with I think Audi drivers
      • tugger, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1Wrong!!! it started as a toyota who ran out of cash. Bentley snapped it up and spent 3 years sorting out the chassis and braking problems, they binned off the engine and started fresh from the ground up. That engine is simply awesome, and much of it's design has now been integrated into the current VW W12 engine and into the Bugatti veyron.
        The audi was an open-***** design with a completely different engine configuration to that of the Bentley. The only crossover was some service and backup advice given to Bentley from the experienced audi team.
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