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- AngelBunny, on 10/21/2009, -10/+41No diesel vehicles on the list?
This list is biased and not accurate... buried. - Surferess, on 10/21/2009, -6/+30FTA; "And they're not all made by Toyota or Honda, either" The fact you have to mention this means Toyota and Honda totally own this market already and any American players are super late to the table.
- nahsrocketeer75, on 10/21/2009, -2/+26OK, fine, you've shamed me out of buying a Lamborghini Murcielago even in my dreams. Happy now?
- acary99, on 10/21/2009, -2/+18Seems that they left out diesel cars. Volkswagen has a few now that I think have better mileage than these. My wife dismisses them out of fear of not finding a station and volatile pricing. Maybe that's why they're not included.
- cosworth99, on 10/21/2009, -4/+19Buried. Title should read:
The Top Ten Most Fuel Efficient Gasoline Cars available in the American Market for 2010 - brainboy7777, on 10/21/2009, -1/+14BUGHATTI VEYRON. *****. YES.
- monkeyrun, on 10/21/2009, -2/+15strange... when did 41/36 become more fuel efficient than 40/45?
- ridestp, on 10/21/2009, -1/+13Wrong.
2010 Volkswagen Golf TDI - $21,990 - 30 MPG City, 42 MPG Highway - Would be 5th on the list. For some reason, it is not included.
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/08/23/2010-vw-golf-td ... - driverdave, on 10/21/2009, -4/+16where are the VW TDIs?
- Spanamana, on 10/21/2009, -0/+11I refer you all to Britain's Top Gear programme which showed that when a Toyota Prius went around their test track being followed by a BMW M3, the M3 was 2mpg more efficient. This proves one thing above all else, its not what you drive but how you drive it.
- merbrian, on 10/21/2009, -3/+12Ford Fusion in second place?!
- bemaniac, on 10/21/2009, -2/+11Tesla anyone?
- deucetre, on 10/21/2009, -2/+10Yeah, if by "humiliated" you mean "5 out of the top 10" most fuel efficient cars (according to said article) then okay...
The Fusion is a LOT nicer than the Prius BTW. - oilfighter, on 10/21/2009, -1/+9Seriously, where is the VW Jetta TDI? Not only is it fuel efficient, it's even got some power and torque to it so you can actually enjoy the "drive"
- JHW539, on 10/21/2009, -0/+8Just looking at the raw mpgs, the VW diesel would fall in the ninth place. BUT diesel is a higher energy density fuel - it requires more crude to make a gallon and it has a higher number of btus. It is also more expensive per gallon, and is liable to stay that way with the modern low sulfur requirements. I would guess this list was using the $/25 miles metric produced by the EPA.
Claiming it is biased is just silly. There is no anti-diesel, pro-gas faction out there. - OnShakedown, on 10/21/2009, -2/+9no yaris?
- tatical, on 10/21/2009, -0/+7What happened to the Volkswagen Jetta TDI 38 city / 44 highway...
- protodon, on 10/21/2009, -1/+8It's a surprisingly nice car.
- recruz, on 10/21/2009, -0/+7Yes, it takes gas to make electricity for the car, but in doing so, you are increasing the fuel EFFICIENCY because you are capturing more of the energy created by the fuel instead of just letting it dissipate into the atmosphere. A car that goes 50 miles with a single gallon is BETTER than a car that goes 25 miles with a single gallon. So it is COMPLETELY different.
If you had a regular combustion engine car that goes 50 miles per gallon, and a Hybrid-electric car that goes 50 miles per gallon, then yes, you are correct, there is no difference. But how many 50 mpg combustion engine cars do you know of?
And are you drunk? You can't type for *****. - gourami, on 10/21/2009, -0/+6It's the most efficient mid-sized sedan. Why wouldn't it be on the list?
- gourami, on 10/21/2009, -1/+5So because someone drives a hybrid they have to adhere to your sense of correct driving?
- JHW539, on 10/21/2009, -0/+4The Yaris gets 29 city / 36 highway / 32 combined in the test regime (of course, a careful driver in the slow lane can do better, which is true with all the vehicles on the list). It doesn't make the cut but can be an EXCELLENT choice when you start worrying about trivial real world i$$ue$.
- inactive, on 10/21/2009, -3/+7Your ignorance is amazing- the world is not "fine" and hybrid drivetrains do not influence a car's sportiness. Walking or riding a bike are not viable alternatives for most people who use cars as a primary means of transportation. Finally, your weariness of hearing about hybrids is understandable, but is akin to a user of kerosene lamps bitching about the lightbulb. Get over it.
- zapperdude60, on 10/21/2009, -0/+4No one 'wants to pollute', but if someone wants to drive a nice, fast car then who am I to say they can't. If you think that everyone should be forced to drive one type of car then go live in East Germany and drive a Trabant.
- plainOldFool, on 10/21/2009, -0/+4My 95 Tercel is a freaking gas sipper. I just wish it didn't have the fuel storage capacity of a Solo cup.
- cosworth99, on 10/21/2009, -0/+4Clarkson has the final word:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/143-Top-Gear-To ... - puttsy, on 10/22/2009, -0/+3Actually, I believe that MPG for the Jetta is closer to 50, for diesel that is. And I was wondering where it was as well, people have started to become quite biased for Hybrids though, these test rarely look elsewhere anymore when, in reality, you can often pull better mileage on a diesel manual. These are sometimes even left out because they are a "manual" and "most drivers won't buy them" so they don't make the charts. Quite a shame...
- Taiyoryu, on 10/21/2009, -0/+3If they're going to post 6-figure cars and call them the least efficient, then the least they can do is post the 6-figure, all-electric cars that have equivalent MPG ratings that are double to triple what the Prius claims.
- JHW539, on 10/21/2009, -0/+3Not sure why the diesels are not included - the best of breed (VW's sweet TDI) could clock in at ninth place with their 30/42 rating (34 combined, which is weighted to city driving and congestion a bit). If I had to guess, I would say because their cost per mile is higher than all of the options on the list. A gallon of diesel is NOT equal to gasoline - it tends to be more expensive, it contains more btu's (energy) per gallon, and it requires more crude oil to produce a gallon. But the list should have been much clearer about their criteria.
Finding a station for diesel is a non-issue. I drove one for years and never, ever had the slightest problem. You just don't notice all the diesel stations until you need them - that little green nozzle on the end pump is all over the place. - cha5e, on 10/21/2009, -0/+3At a gas station near my house (in the midwestern US), diesel = $2.75, gas = $2.68. So diesel costs about 2.6% more (though has been cheaper from time to time during the 10 years that I've driven a diesel car). If you're going strictly based on $/25 miles, then it stands to reason that (in my market, today) a diesel would tie a gas car that gets 2.6% worse mpg. 2010 VW Jetta TDI gets 30mpg city / 42mpg highway...there are a couple cars on the list that are more than 2.6% worse than the highway number at least, and likely the overall number as well depending on how/if they weight the average.
By the way, anybody have any figures for how much more crude it takes to make diesel versus gasoline? I agree that it will take more, but I'd be interested to see it quantified. - SpinkickFolly, on 10/22/2009, -0/+3Bury for no mention of diesel.
- skate3214, on 10/22/2009, -0/+3Wait are you serious? An electric or hybrid could definitely be sporty, an electric motor essentially makes all of its torque right from the start of the rev range resulting in incredible acceleration. Although something like a Prius isn't sporty, but then it's not meant to be.
- breakbread, on 10/21/2009, -1/+4MPG != Green There's more to it than that.
Also, I've observed that most Prius drivers don't drive like it's a ***** Prius. I drive a 1998 Integra Type R. I am a auto enthusiast and I baby the hell out of my car on a day to day basis. Now, my car isn't like VROOMMMMMM fast, but it's quick. Certainly quicker than a Prius, of course. Anyways, I can't tell you how many times I've been at a red light, and when it goes green have some Prius totally beat me off the line. And like I said, I baby my car. When I let off the clutch to take off at a red light I accelerate fairly conservatively. Normal you might call it. These econo drivers, though, they floor it EVERYWHERE. - merbrian, on 10/21/2009, -4/+7It's the EPA's list--not exactly biased. Diesel vehicles weren't included.
- daytona81, on 10/21/2009, -0/+3you dont buy lambos and ferraris to worry about fuel mileage. you buy them to use the fuel as fast as you can
- breakbread, on 10/21/2009, -0/+3It's also worth mentioning that Ferrari, for instance, will produce 4000 cars a year, on average for the past couple years. 4000 a YEAR. Most of these (as much as it hurts my heart) sit in a garage 90% of the time.
- oilfighter, on 10/22/2009, -0/+2Apparently digg communities are far better educated on diesel cars than the rest of the American population!
One of my favorite car is the BMW 335d. Yes, it's not going to be as efficient as the prius, but that's because it's built as a sports/performance car. 0-60 time is 6.0 seconds flat. 265HP, 425 Torque (2 or 3 times more than a normal car).
The best part? 36MPG on the highway. That's incredible for a performance car!
There's a reason why diesel is so popular in Europe. - antoniuk, on 10/21/2009, -5/+7***** this list for excluding VW.
- breakbread, on 10/22/2009, -0/+2What the ***** are you talking about? They don't have to drive any ***** way, but if they're buying them for fuel economy and to save the world, flooring it everywhere doesn't help *****.
And I could dust a Prius off the line; that's not the issue. The issue is that they're flooring it when they take off, because accelerating normally in those cars is a painfully slow. - gourami, on 10/21/2009, -0/+2They must be taking the vehicle size into consideration since the Civic is a small car and the Fusion is mid-sized.
- zapperdude60, on 10/21/2009, -0/+2And its a concept.
- inactive, on 10/22/2009, -0/+2Isn't it interesting that the ONLY American car company that had an entry, is the ONLY American car company that didn't take bailout money, or is in bankruptcy. Kuddos to Ford.
GM (Government Motors) should have been allowed to go into bankruptcy, shed the BS from the UAW, get rid of their short sighted management and start all over. - edwadokun, on 10/22/2009, -0/+2LOL if u can afford any of the super cars this article just named, im sure you dont care about the money you spend on gas at all
- DirtyDiggberal, on 10/21/2009, -0/+2"That's right, coming in 10th are a slew of cars, each that get 11 miles per gallon in the city and 17 on the highway--your BMWs, Aston Martins, Porches and so on. Needless to say, these gas guzzlers are the least green on the road--but they're also some of the most expensive. According to the LA Times, it costs "$392,400 and burns 34.3 barrels of oil a year," compared to the 6.9 barrels and $770 a Prius would burn. Good thing--we'll probably see far more people driving home Priuses and Ford Fusions than such exhaust barons."
Which car costs $392,400 and burns 34.3 barrels of oil a year? An average of all BMWs, Aston Martins, Porsches, and "so on?"
I'm not sure what to make of the next sentence. Is the author comparing the price tag of this mystery/average car to the cost of 6.9 barrels of oil? Why not compare one car's price tag to the other's, or one car's cost of fuel to the other's?
Efficiency and modern design makes my dick as hard as the next guy's, but Planet Green is doing itself a disservice by treating its readers like idiots. Sloppy writing is sloppy. - geogeer, on 10/21/2009, -0/+2In Canada diesel is significantly cheaper than gasoline, much of the price has to do with taxation differences on the fuels. Diesel actually requires significantly less refining than gasoline (though that has gone up as the lower sulphur requirements have increased).
Additionally, unlike many of the cars on this list, VW diesels consistently get higher mileage than is shown on the EPA numbers. - e2superman, on 10/21/2009, -0/+2A regular Honda Civic gets 36mpg on the freeway.
- e2superman, on 10/21/2009, -1/+2Prius drivers feel like that have to make up for their sissy cars somehow. They have good accel off the line.... you will kill then over 20mph.
- slvrbullet87, on 10/21/2009, -1/+2Ford/Mercury seems to be pretty prominent on that list
- dsmx, on 10/22/2009, -0/+1Fiat 500 averages 46mpg in town driving in the real world. I should know I own one.
- iamdan1, on 10/22/2009, -0/+1Cars?? What a useless list. My horse doesn't use any gas...
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