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- keeganspeck, on 07/14/2008, -1/+25I love Tesla! Electric cars, though most ultimately use fossil fuels, use so much less than normal cars. Plus, we won't have to overcome the drastic infrastructure change hydrogen fuel cells would need, even if different power sources become available! Electric cars are the way to go.
- Retsep, on 07/15/2008, -2/+23Proof that envionmentally friendly cars don't need to look like ridiculous golf carts.
- keeganspeck, on 07/14/2008, -1/+22It's still horrible, but the amount of energy the plant produces is far far far more efficient than the amount from a combustion engine, so you use much less fossil fuel on electric cars than in regular cars.
That help? - acevoncash, on 07/15/2008, -1/+17keeganspeek is absolutely right.. furthermore it lays out infrastructure for a fossil fuel-less economy once we switch our electrical production to renewable resources. It is not the answer to every problem, but its a baby step. A very important one we need to take asafp.
- swordedge, on 07/14/2008, -1/+15why open a store if every car you can make is already spoken for?
- MortalynFlux, on 07/15/2008, -0/+10It's economies of scale. Even if a power plant were to burn diesel, it is still more efficient because of its scale than a small diesel engine under your hood.
Here in Texas you can also choose your energy provider. So if you want a larger percentage of your electricity to come from green sources of energy, you can make that choice. - marksism, on 07/15/2008, -2/+11and with less Jew-hate
- billizm, on 07/15/2008, -0/+7Test drive and place an order to wait in line.
- Yimyack, on 07/15/2008, -3/+10Tesla = The Ford Motor Company for the New Era.
Except their cars are exceptional. - MortalynFlux, on 07/15/2008, -1/+8Marketing.
- MortalynFlux, on 07/15/2008, -0/+7Also there's the fact that if we all switch to electric cars, switching to new sources of energy as new technologies become available becomes seamless. Every time there is a new energy technology, there is no need for a change in infrastructure, as the final output will always be the same: the wall plug in your garage and at your workplace.
- LoudMusic, on 07/15/2008, -0/+7I'd like to see an all electric society, where we generate as much electricity as possible from renewable resources (solar, wind, tide, dam, crop, etc), dump the power into the grid, and power everything from there.
Probably won't happen in my lifetime. - krische, on 07/15/2008, -0/+6So we can drool at the model car.
- cricketsymphony, on 07/15/2008, -0/+5Tesla Roadster: $100k
Tesla Model S sedan: $60k
Low-cost sedan (4 years away at most): $30k
also, i'd consider 'a decked out 911' to mean something like a 911 gt3 rs (msrp $125k) + performance mods - rocktopotomus, on 07/15/2008, -0/+5i fail to see the connection between your reply to keeganspeck's comment. fully electric cars don't run on gasoline- they run on electricity from coal/fission/solar/etc power plants
- ChrisAlbon, on 07/15/2008, -0/+5I got a good laugh from the Eeyore comment.
- rupric, on 07/15/2008, -2/+6If you can afford a Tesla you can probably afford to throw a few Solar Panels on the roof of your house which would more than make up for any fossil fuel burned to make the electricity. Plus advancing the technology makes it cheaper for everyone else.
- Amazetbm, on 07/15/2008, -0/+4They already have buses that run on methane and Honda has a car that runs off of Compressed Natural Gas (usually methane). @ $0.63 a gallon. The problem is we'd have to overhaul our sewage systems to carry the stuff from the toilet on a completely different system of pipes.
- hexydes, on 07/15/2008, -4/+8lol, there is just no pleasing environmentalists. Drive an SUV? You should be driving a car. Drive a car? You should be driving a hybrid. Drive a hybrid? You should be riding a bike. Riding a bike? You should be walking. Walking? You Shouldn't.
This is why no one takes you seriously, because all you do is point out problems, and then when people try to enact a solution, you just criticize it. You're like Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh, walking around with a storm-cloud over your head. - krische, on 07/15/2008, -0/+4Just use google. There is plenty of info out there. Wikipedia is good as well.
- acevoncash, on 07/15/2008, -4/+8k rose should pick a roadster up.
- krische, on 07/15/2008, -1/+5I remember watching a NOVA special a while ago, and they were interviewing someone who said the grid could hand most people having electric cars. However, they would have to charge them at night. During peak hours power plants wouldn't be able to keep with the demand. Charging at night would also let the power plants be more efficient since they are really only meant to run at one capacity, so currently having them run at half-power during off-peak hours is very inefficient.
- diulei, on 07/15/2008, -1/+5Well, that is Tesla's plan.
Start high - streamline and perfect the process, then move to a lower market.
I sure hope they are successful. - krische, on 07/15/2008, -1/+4Roadster currently going for about $100,000. They are planning to release a sedan in 2010 with an estimated cost around $50,000.
As for getting one, all of them are already reserved. - chrissku, on 07/15/2008, -5/+8We need cars that run off poop. That's the only way we can make it through this crisis.
- chaaalieboy, on 07/15/2008, -0/+3No one has answered my question. Where are we going to get all that hydrogen from? Because the electrolysis process takes a lot of energy to split the hydrogen and oxygen, and that makes it unpractical and expensive.
- chaaalieboy, on 07/15/2008, -4/+7I never understood the hype over switching to hydrogen. That seems like a big, fat scam to me; something the Bush administration could wave in our faces to say they're doing something environmentally conscious. Hydrogen will NEVER be a practical, cheap, efficient fuel source.
- HxChris91, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2Of course switching to electric would be easier than switching to hydrogen fuel cells, the amount of energy it takes to extract hydrogen from water (the easiest source) takes more power than it produces. Pure electric is (right now) the best option we have if we want to continue using machines to transport.
- phildixon, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2Good to see them back on their feet and finding some other way to make money as sales of their "Five Man Acoustical Jam" have waned.
- aaronadms, on 07/15/2008, -1/+3I'll bet all the original Model T's were spoken for also. In 100 years Tesla Motors will be a world leader in automobile manufacturing (since they're the only ones selling what we want) and this store will be the 1st step in that journey.
- AuthorityAction, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2I'm thinking he meant over night. Peak hours are going to be during the day through the evening.
- chaaalieboy, on 07/15/2008, -1/+3Please, explain. Where, exactly, will we get all that hydrogen?
- stealthc, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2Pow Pow Power Wheels!
- lazerflesh, on 07/15/2008, -2/+4To bad they are 100K +
- cricketsymphony, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2"This was supposed to be the future. Where is my jetpack? Where is my dinner in pill form? The scientists lied to us."
- WELLDOITLIVE, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2Does that choice cost a little bit more? Serious question, we don't have a choice here in WI.
- MortalynFlux, on 07/15/2008, -1/+2It may cost a little more. It's hard to tell, however, until you get the bill, since the deposit and fees may vary. The most expensive choice is TXU, which is the main provider and reseller. You can see a comparison chart at http://www.powertochoose.org
- cnosal, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1Uhh it has an electric motor, and batteries that you charge from a wall outlet. It's not a hybrid.
- LoudMusic, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1Apparently my post didn't get stuck to the one it was a reply to. Oh well, now I look like an ass hat.
I was attempting to reply to someone making some comment about Mercedes being all hybrids by 2015 or some junk. - mahler, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1The reason why hydrogen is more promising then electric cars, is the fact that you don't need to create big heavy boxes with chemicals that wear out over time and are slowly rechargable compared to the speed you fill a tank with hydrogen. However, I agree that the current infrastructure caters more to electric cars then to hydrogen cars.
- swordedge, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1never say never.
- cnosal, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1Factories use electricity too
- digid, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1eh chaaaaaaaaaaaalieboy why dont you use google and search for something like "hydrogen production"? Oh here's an interesting link...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_production
oh and another...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_economy
oh and here's one more...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_hydrogen_p ... - inactive, on 07/15/2008, -2/+3No they just need to cost as much as a decked out 911.
Get back to me when they dont cost more than I could get a used Lambo for. - rheaume, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1I think the only thing that helps the right wing is a lobotomy
- altinnovation, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1I read an article a week ago that Mercedes plans to have an all-hybrid product range by 2015, which is a rather quick change.
- willx99, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1krische, are you sure you don't have it backwards? I think that the peak hours occur at night (like 6-8pm) cause thats when people are cooking, watching TV, using all their house lights, etc. So unless you meant like really late night then I think charging your car at night would be a bad idea.
- fattmarrell, on 07/15/2008, -1/+2You're going to need somewhere to order your batteries every few years
- cnosal, on 07/15/2008, -1/+1Their roadmap includes a $60k car by 2010 IIRC, and a $30k car after that
- thomasjnewsome, on 07/15/2008, -0/+0I'm always skeptical of "new technology that will revolutionize our lives." However, I think the time for the electric car has finally come. Gas will stay expensive. No new infrastructure is needed to "fill up." As a society, we're rich enough to have plenty of green early adopters.
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