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- Brotoi, on 05/18/2009, -1/+28
Since it looks like China will wind up taking over production of GM and Chrysler, I guess I'll just have to retain my lifelong loyalty to Ford! - cyrusuncc, on 05/18/2009, -3/+30The dawn of the throw away car has arrived!
- drmangrum, on 05/18/2009, -3/+29I'll buy one when China's stops manufacturing complete crap. Yes, they can make a lot of something and they can make it cheap. However, the price comes in quality. Nearly EVERYTHING they make is complete and utter crap. I prefer my cars not to kill me if I get in an accident at 40 mph.
Yes, the current fad on digg is to hate America and love China. What many don't understand is that America is still a powerhouse in the manufacturing world. - Wholekernalcorn, on 05/18/2009, -6/+28Fantastic! I love fatal 35 mph head on crashes!
You can use what's left of the car to wrap and cook a roast....if you survived. - brad3378, on 05/18/2009, -2/+17Your comment implies that assembly line workers in the United States earn that much. I challenge you to find just one credible article from a mainstream news source to back up those numbers.
That's literally twice as much money that I earned as an *engineer* in the auto industry, so I'm calling ***** on that one. - ChuckDees, on 05/18/2009, -3/+16Uhh i watched the crash test video on that car.
I'd rather walk. - FelixdaaHack, on 05/18/2009, -0/+12"Detroit Crumbles" ...litterly, old buildings in downtown Detroit with little occupancy resulting in poor maintenance are falling apart requiring areas to be taped off to prevent injury to predestrians walking by them. The whole city is a "Life Without Humans" episode.
- KielKilla, on 05/18/2009, -1/+12somebody save us for the love of god
- zuiquan, on 05/19/2009, -1/+11Holy ***** you might want to cite that *****. A ***** battleship every 67 seconds? So we had like 1.8 million battleships by the end of the war? Why then, do I not have my own personal battleship for summertime enjoyment?
- fury420, on 05/18/2009, -5/+14notice he said "equivalent of 60-70$/hr"
he's including the healthcare & pension costs of GM workers that retired in the early 1980s as part of employees earnings - GeorgeWKush, on 05/18/2009, -3/+12http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vAN2cx2UIE
...and people thought American cars sucked. - inactive, on 05/18/2009, -2/+10apparently your spellcheck has not
- MelvinSchlubman, on 05/19/2009, -3/+11> America is still a powerhouse in the manufacturing world.
Misleading. America still leads in total value of mfg'd goods, but only because we've retreated up the value chain. When I was a kid in the 60's, we laughed and scoffed when we saw something marked "Made in Japan" because Japan made cheap junk. Japan became a quality manufacturer. Do you think China won't do the same? With all their people, they could come to dominate the full range for a while. - maverex, on 05/18/2009, -1/+8Globalization at it's best.
- PandaBearShenyu, on 05/19/2009, -1/+8Shh, don't speak sense to people like him, he can't take it, apparently in his bubble, everything cheap and crappy that he buys are made in China and all the high quality stuff like iPods and PS3s and plasma TVs are made in some other magical country. lol
- SquidVet, on 05/19/2009, -0/+6Does anyone else find it ironic that everyone's favorite thing to do last year was boycott Chinese products because they contain unhealthy materials, i.e. lead? Now suddenly here comes China to the automotive industry's rescue?
Gimme a break. - collution, on 05/19/2009, -0/+6It's not the engineering or the manufacturing. It's the politicians and business guys sucking up to their profit focused shareholder overlords.
- borez, on 05/18/2009, -6/+12China is emerging as the everything epicenter... Confucian philosophy will soon override capitalism, it's on the cards. No doubt.
- Wade, on 05/19/2009, -0/+6Save money, throw away your safety!
- masterstghm, on 05/19/2009, -0/+6Chinese cars? McDonald's Happy Meal toys come to mind.
- cyrusuncc, on 05/18/2009, -4/+10Yes, but it's merely a HEMI emblem on some cheap rip-off engine.
- Mike17102, on 05/19/2009, -0/+6So they are going to double their GNP in less than 5 years?
Care to wager on that? - paker, on 05/19/2009, -0/+6Chinese cars are GREAT if you're a crash test dummy.
- DarkShroud, on 05/19/2009, -0/+6I'll stick with Ford thank you very much. The 2010 Fusion Hybrid has been recorded at getting 81.5mpg average from some people.
- SteelChicken, on 05/19/2009, -1/+7American cars are not crappy. Get some more data first before repeating what someone told you in 1985, assuming you were even alive then
- netant, on 05/19/2009, -0/+6Its not the state of engineering and manufacturing in the country that this country should be ashamed of. From the Hubble telescope, to military weapons, to Caterpillar, etc., the US kicks ass.
NO, what America should be ashamed of is American Corporate Management. Even the losers running the auto industry do not match the sheer venality of the losers running Wall Street. America should even be more ashamed of itself, the American voter and non-voter. After all, we are the generation that condoned torture, and kept the politicians that sold us out to Wall Street with deregulation. - brad3378, on 05/19/2009, -2/+7@Fury420
Not even close:
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/do_auto_work ...
"the figure is actually at twenty-eight before benefits,
which only add ten dollars to the amount. "
@Dogfood
"He should have then said that "It costs (GM) the equivalent of $60-70 / hr per *ACTIVE* employee,"
If we're going to play the fuzzy math game, it would be no different than saying that a each teacher costs a school $X.XX and calculating that figure based on the (total number of active and retired teachers) divided by the entire payroll. The retirees shouldn't be a part of the equation. - dogfood, on 05/19/2009, -2/+7He should have then said that "It costs (GM) the equivalent of $60-70 / hr per employee," not that auto workers make the equivalent of $60-70 / hr.
- Unreal030, on 05/19/2009, -0/+5but this one is made in China. Don't touch the paint!
- srs2000, on 05/19/2009, -0/+5... I find it funny.. Sales of american cars goes into the gutter because we've made crappy cars and people got sick of it... Now we think the country that is the crap king is going to help our situation?
RIP anyone who buys one of these cars. I suggest you make a will before you leave the dealership. Perhaps the dealerships can have a side business writing up wills. - SamSks, on 05/19/2009, -0/+5It's gonna have to be a throw away!
After buying a Chinese car, an hour later, you want to buy another one! - inactive, on 05/19/2009, -0/+4and we helped them along.
- fury420, on 05/18/2009, -4/+8China can build both dirt-cheap low quality products that break easily and top of the line products that have similar if not better quality standards than products built elsewhere, it all depends on how much you are willing to pay.
Yes, if you pay $4000 US for a brand new automobile, odds are it won't do very well in crash tests when compared to vehicles that start at 2-3x that price, but you get what you pay for. - Unreal030, on 05/19/2009, -0/+4by not being dumb enough to get the same brand whose car only lasted 3 years to begin with. Let me guess, you also are one of the people that pulled out a home mortgage they couldn't afford? Can you even afford this internet?
- nickymouse, on 05/19/2009, -2/+6I love it when a teacher from my district drive an Asian car with the sticker, "I support the teacher's union."
- roxics, on 05/19/2009, -0/+4You know outsiders look at downtown Detroit and judge the area based on that. Detroit is a horizontal city. Most of the action is in the suburbs. The actual city itself is pretty small.
- robbob, on 05/18/2009, -1/+5I love living in America, where you can bash America. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
- TheNik, on 05/19/2009, -2/+6@dogfood: If your employer covers your health care and you receive benefits that equate to $60/hour then you are, in reality, making that much. Whether you actually get PAID that much is another story.
Having said that - they are compensated far to much for their job. - Bloodwine, on 05/19/2009, -0/+3This is the long-term consequences of our policy of outsourcing and moving manufacturing overseas.
It's silly to think that the U.S. was going to be the intellectual elite who ruled the worker slaves in other nations. - inactive, on 05/19/2009, -2/+5and not by bailing out these ***** companies. let them fail, and then someone better can come in and pick up the pieces. doing things the same old way isn't going to work, and neither is the crappy american management style.
- caution, on 05/19/2009, -1/+4Pfft. Once they buy up the tech, you won't be able to tell a Chinese car made for the US market from any current domestic.
- Unreal030, on 05/19/2009, -0/+3You have been picking the wrong Ford cars through bad research on your part then. Dodge? hahahahaha
- zuiquan, on 05/19/2009, -1/+4In traffic, at night, wearing an all black jogging suit.
- TheNik, on 05/19/2009, -0/+3Unless they are cheaper. I assure you that matters more to the American public than over-compensation of union workers.
- eShinn, on 05/19/2009, -0/+3Disposable passengers not included.
- Balanced, on 05/19/2009, -0/+3I wonder if he meant 'tank' not battleship? I know a LOT of tanks were built for WWII.Also tanks make sense for construction in auto plants, as battleships are usually built, you know, near the water.
- waydee, on 05/19/2009, -1/+4What about the European manufacturers? if you believe unionised labour to be the problem, explain how Germany, France and Italy keep their car industries afloat.
- govsucks, on 05/19/2009, -1/+4Look on the bright side, like California and now the nation, they have progressive leadership!
- VitriolAndAngst, on 05/19/2009, -1/+4It's really a lucky accident that both Chrysler and GM already have plants built in China.
Anyone finally for import Tariffs?
Those of you saying that it won't be well built -- of course it will be. It will be just like the US made cars except it won't be employing US workers. But GM can use that bail out money to bribe people in Congress and make sure that they tell you that "tariffs will make the US less competitive." Because nothing works like using tried and true lies. - glitchbit, on 05/19/2009, -0/+3Where is the article about how sales people and the American consumer doomed the car industry?
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