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- Sornos, on 11/13/2008, -4/+228Ask next time to get your headlight fluid changed.
- inactive, on 11/13/2008, -10/+197I bought a used car and had it state inspected at a Midas Muffler shop. The Technician walked to his toolbox, then back to the front passenger side of the car. He then told me the brake lines were cracked. I called the car dealership and they said they done their own inspection and there were no problems with the brake line. When I complained and made acuations, a knife was found in the Techs toolbox and a single fine cut in my brake line. I sued and won $4,000 for a $1,000 car purchase!
Car repair shops are inherently crooked. BEWARE! - kingjaydub, on 11/13/2008, -2/+136They told me my flux capacitor needed to be replaced.
- aechase, on 11/13/2008, -1/+103I had a friend who went to one of these fast-change places for an oil change, and BAM! Woke up without his kidneys.
- AmyVernon, on 11/12/2008, -10/+97I had a friend who went to one of these fast-change places for an oil change, and they didn't actually change the oil and her car got totally messed up.
- tgc1, on 11/13/2008, -4/+91Oil is VITAL to keep internal components from breaking down. How do they break down? Wear. Wear is increased by lack of lubrication. Lack of lubrication, in this case, is caused by engine flushing. How does that work you may ask? Let me get you to do a quick, simple experiment.
Go put some cooking oil on your fingers, rub them together. They are slippery. That's a lack of friction.
Now go wash your hands and rub them together... see what happens there? More grip. That's friction at work. Friction = wear and wear equals the death of your engine (eventually).
The problem with flushing the engine is that even when you put new oil in to lubricate the components that need them there are some areas that the oil cannot get to, that the solvent has now taken away or seeped out of tight spaces. When your engine is built in the factory they use assembly lube on all the parts (bearing journals, etc) before the engine is assembled. This is to prevent damage on the first start up. These are areas where oil, as I said, cannot get if you just fill the crank case with oil. Remember, oil is viscous, and in many cases the tolerances between certain surfaces is in the thousandths of an inch (eg. .005"). On startup, there is a brief moment where the oil pump is not primed, and thus not squirting oild into those areas where it is needed most. Oil left there during a previous run is important in that it protects the engine from damage when you start it up again. On a NEW startup, there is no oil in there at all. And as said, if you remove that with solvents... the engine is going to be toast in no time.
So, as said, if you get this procedure done; when you crank the engine over, even though there is oil in there, there might be some scuffing of bearings and such, which is enough in some cases to destroy an engine. So, moral of my rather drawn out post is that OIL is the lifeblood of your engine. Without that, your engine gets messed up. - jollygreen188, on 11/13/2008, -3/+88Learn how to change your oil and you won't have to deal with these *****
- Peeshmee, on 11/12/2008, -1/+82And that's why I change my own oil. Just saying.
- doctechnical, on 11/12/2008, -0/+76I guess the exhaust system high-colonic is right out, then.
- mjmelies, on 11/13/2008, -5/+77This is absolutely and categorically false. Thank you for your great generalization. Not all car shops are "crooked" it's the same as anything else, the bad ones get all the pub. Look around in your town/city, check with the BBB and find a reliable shop that way.
- daskatzsocrates, on 11/12/2008, -1/+72what about stem lube for the tires? winter is coming and the guy at the garage said it's important.
- zdiggler, on 11/13/2008, -4/+71That remind me, I gotta go change my blinker fluid. Winter is coming.
- nonstop87, on 11/13/2008, -0/+43Right after I pick up some elbow grease I'll change it myself.
- Smaulz, on 11/13/2008, -1/+43Don't make jokes, I just had to have the Johnson Rod replaced on my van. Freakin' expensive.
- inactive, on 11/13/2008, -5/+45Not changing your oil will not damage your car unless you run it for about 30,000 mles when the recommended is 3,000. Just sayin'.
- brad3378, on 11/13/2008, -1/+41I used to be an Auto Mechanic.
One day a customer brought in a truck with a bad rod knock.
Another technician diagnosed the problem, so I don't remember all the details, but I'll never forget what I saw when he pulled off the oil pan. The sludge was so thick it was like jello. You could literally scoop it up with your hand and watch it jiggle. I don't remember how many miles were on the truck, but I do remember the customer having the audacity to fight our service manager about the warranty coverage.
I doubt that an engine flush would have harmed this specific truck, but I'd be more concerned about some vehicles with high miles. Sometimes when you pull off an intake manifold you'll see crusty oil deposits in the valley. They look sorta like something you'd scrape off of the bottom of a frying pan if you left the stove on unattended for a few hours. They're kinda gritty and I'd be concerned about those breaking free all at once and plugging up the oil pickup screen or taking out a bearing or wedging like sand in the oil pump. - inactive, on 11/13/2008, -0/+39One time Jiffy Lube told me they topped off my washer fluid. I told them I wondered where they put it since I had just gotten done rebuilding the washer fluid pump and the reservoir was on the floor in my garage.
- iBahl, on 11/13/2008, -0/+39Better to build a relationship with an independent mechanic.
- ayeroxor, on 11/13/2008, -1/+39And top off the turn signal fluid, Lou!
- LeroyJenkems, on 11/13/2008, -2/+39PROTIP: Always make sure the shop tops off your VTEC fluid.
- SnowBladerX, on 11/13/2008, -1/+35How about blinker fluid refills and muffler bearing replacements? you mean to tell me those aren't needed too?
- morcheeba, on 11/13/2008, -0/+33My friend had a civic -- he first changed the oil at 30k and then changed it a second time at 60k... and it still ran. This is the guy, who, when walking past the tire, cut himself on the wire sticking out of his bald tire (after the rubber wore down, the steel belted radial was exposed and was starting to break). Some people aren't into the details.
- PotentPotables, on 11/13/2008, -2/+34I don't think it was fair to terminate the employees. Yes, they lied about the engine flushes being recommended by the car manufacturer, but they're probably just stooges forced by upper management to push unnecessary and expensive services to every customer. The service industry is a gold mine for these companies. Just look at Best Buy. The Geek Squad charges $150 to install less than $20 worth of anti-virus software on your computer. But should the actual store employees get fired for offering those services when people realize what a big scam they are?
- 0x0000ff, on 11/13/2008, -2/+33schnibitz - Try to learn a little more about the world outside your backyard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator - hobbers, on 11/13/2008, -3/+33Between buying the oil ($10), buying the filter ( $10), lying on my back in the dirt, getting oil on me, and dealing with proper disposal of hazardous waste ... I'd rather spend $35 and have it done in 30 minutes. Plus they'll air up my tires and clean my windows. Just make sure to watch them and check your oil afterward.
But that's where it stops. Any other service I'll do myself or get done at a proper auto repair shop. - ToddsSpleen, on 11/13/2008, -0/+27You need to quit using low octane plutonium.
- inactive, on 11/13/2008, -0/+26@mjmelies
I stand corrected. I do have my car serviced from time to time by a small local shop owned by 2 brothers, and they are cheap and do great work. - joegibes, on 11/13/2008, -1/+27It's right up there with the muffler bearings in order of imporance.
- zdiggler, on 11/13/2008, -1/+26I just let them change oil and filter. Let them top off the washer fluid. Just say no to everything. If you want your rear end done, goto transmission shop. If you want to change transmission fluid, goto transmission shop. If you want your AC top off go to real auto place.
- TheGuruStud, on 11/13/2008, -1/+26Not trying to be a dick, but why would you ever take an import (let alone a rotary) to a con shop?
They know absolutely dick about any import. - BlatheringIdiot, on 11/13/2008, -1/+25My wife used up my last jar of stem lube.
- mjmelies, on 11/13/2008, -1/+23No, but my step dad owns his own shop. All I'm saying is not all shops are crooked like that guy.
- Treshnell, on 11/13/2008, -1/+22Friend of mine got her tires changed/rotated at a Walmart. A few miles later it fell off. They didn't want to pay for her hospital bills.
- drethedog, on 11/13/2008, -2/+23Ha, my ex had a honda and didn't get a oil change for over 10.000 miles, that beast kept running but you could feel the difference after it was done....
- inactive, on 11/13/2008, -1/+22There's more money to be made in Rear view Mirror adjustments anyway.
- specialbuddy1, on 11/13/2008, -0/+20That's a little over kill don't you think?
- mjmelies, on 11/13/2008, -0/+20Honestly, that is (mostly) where the best work will be done. Find a good shop and stick with it, you and the owner of the shop will be much better off.
- gadgetlust, on 11/13/2008, -0/+19***** fight!
- MadOgre, on 11/13/2008, -1/+20We call it Blinker Fluid out here.
- Smurph0404, on 11/13/2008, -8/+26That's not funny. Two of my friends have died by having their kidneys stolen at oil change places.
- serif69, on 11/13/2008, -1/+19I'd do it at home, but I don't have a left-handed crescent socket.
- desertDenizen, on 11/13/2008, -1/+18I changed my own oil the first ten years I had a car. Then I decided it sucks. The next ten years, I just watched the dude through the window. The second ten years were much better.
- ayeroxor, on 11/13/2008, -4/+21stealth: people like you are the downfall of independence. I've changed starters, brake pads, rotors, alternators, pullies, spark plugs, spark coils, and even a distributor cap in my day. There's *plenty* of relatively simple things any competent adult male should take 5 minutes to learn how to do Yet you recommend running for help for *anything* past an oil change? Oh brother.
- chickenloco, on 11/13/2008, -1/+18The folks at Jiffy Lube really don't care about you or your car. On the thing where they go over your car to check lights, all fluid levels, etc, they just sign off. I knew I had a headlight out, took car, headlight check on receipt said OK. Talked to manager and he was an ass about it. Said we checked, look at the technician he signed off on it. He said if you don't believe me talk to the technician. Brought him over, "I Checked, they were all good" Took about 5 minutes of arguing to get them to believe me.
- sv650touring, on 11/13/2008, -1/+18This is MadOgre we're talking about. He burns away from every light.
He lives life 1/4 mile at a time.
A guy like thant can't play around when it comes to his maintenance schedule. THINK about it. - inactive, on 11/13/2008, -0/+16Actually, that's really nice of you.
- duewydo, on 11/13/2008, -0/+16brad3378
I just did an intake gasket on my 98 chevy 350 vortec, with 180k miles. I had about 1/4 inch of this sandy tar sitting in the valley between the lifters. I think I spent most my time with a scraper, solvent and rags slowly and carefully removing this gunk than anything else. I have since decided to pull the pan and do much the same...
Everyone that I have spoken to (that know a thing or two) agree that you should avoid engine flushing solvents like the plague as you don’t want that crud broken loose and running through the motor. - tomz17, on 11/13/2008, -1/+17All they had was this flag!
- SuperNintendo, on 11/13/2008, -0/+15Some exhausts actually do have bearings. There are butterfly valves in the piping or muffler that direct exhaust a certain direction to increase flow at wide open throttle.
- sfhock, on 11/13/2008, -0/+15heheh.. Beavis, I want my rear end done... heheh...
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