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- drifter, on 11/18/2008, -18/+74It's the same way sports cars refuse to die. People want them.
Diggers, think everyone wants/can drive around in Honda's and Prius'. It's a joke, someone wants to buy an SUV, Ferrari, Prius, let them. This is america. - far2fargo, on 11/18/2008, -2/+44I own a Chevrolet Suburban, but I use all of the space it has for my camera equipment, tripods, lights, stands, and dollies. It's my work vehicle and I need it for a daily basis for my survival. In fact, I've never put back in the 3rd row seating since I bought it.
Unfortunately, I often pull up to another SUV and see one individual in the car and possibly a few bags of groceries in the back. Now that makes me ashamed of driving an SUV. - Bruceleo, on 11/18/2008, -6/+37I still think it's a status symbol in urban communities.
- 80hd, on 11/19/2008, -3/+30Agreed. on campus you can easily tell who is a student with no need for a truck and who works and puts when they have to use. It's really a mess that the farmhouse fraternity's parking lot has about ten all diesel 350/3500 series trucks that look new off the lot and have pristine beds. The contractors who have gas tanks and tool boxes bolted to their small trucks that all have scars from being put to work.
It's frustrating. - smotpoker, on 11/19/2008, -10/+36Kids are more often an excuse, not a legitimate reason. My mother said the same thing and she only has two kids and no husband. Besides this, her SUV (a Mercury Mariner) couldn't even hold any more people than a sedan and had about equal storage than a station-wagon or hatchback.
It's not about having kids, it's about having kids AND staying stylish for most SUV owners (IMO). Depending on your occupation and hobbies they may make sense for some people to get/keep one but in most cases it is quit impractical, if not stupid, to get one and use it as your primary vehicle - pstroll, on 11/19/2008, -0/+22"I drive a PT Cruiser..."
Yeah, I wouldn't admit that in public ... - mphree, on 11/19/2008, -7/+26The constant 'death of the SUV' discussion gets really old. The SUV is going to be around for a very long time. I owned an SUV and will be buying another one because I need one. I live in Colorado and absolutely will not make it as far as the end of my driveway without the four-wheel drive, ground clearance, and weight of an SUV for six months out of the year.
Also, they're pretty damn safe too. In August, I wast-boned by a Ford truck with 4,000 lbs of liquor in the back as it blew through a red light at 65 MPH. I was hit on the driver side directly on my door. I was injured pretty badly. I broke my pelvis in two places, broke my back, broke my left hand, and had massive lacerations from glass and seat belts. The Fire Department used the Jaws of Life to get me out of my car and I had a full on ambulance ride with police escorts to the hospital. I've been told numerous times by the rescue personnel and doctors that the only reason I'm alive is because I was in a large vehicle.
To quote one of the Paramedics, "You're lucky you were in that SUV, it saved your life. I see people all the time who were driving Honda Civics and Priuses who got destroyed by crashes going half as fast as your wreck. ***** crazy to drive something so small." - nonymous666, on 11/19/2008, -4/+20Are you under house arrest or something?
- oboshoe, on 11/19/2008, -1/+16I HATE Suvs.
So I didn't buy one.
I wish all problems were so easy to solve. - 80hd, on 11/19/2008, -1/+16Subaru's beat all SUV's in the snow no excuses. My girlfriend drives a saabaru 9-2x and it gets 32mpg on the highway and in snow where I have to dig my car out for 45 minutes, she can just hit the gas and go.
A few winters ago I was at a red light in a nasty blizzard next to a salt/plow truck while in her car. The light turned green and the truck simply slid sideways instead of moving forward. Her car had no issues whatsoever. After we were done at the mall we drove past again and the poor guy was still there trying to winch himself through the intersection. - WestonP, on 11/18/2008, -8/+22SUV's and trucks exist, and are popular, because they are useful, even though they burn more fuel. It doesn't make sense for everyone to drive a Prius.
There's definitely some culture/status-symbol with some of them, which is obnoxious, but there are still plenty that aren't anything fancy and just get the job done. I live in an area where it snows in the winter, and I also do a lot of towing during the summer, so a modest small 4x4 SUV with a V6 makes sense for me, and I'm willing to pay the extra fuel costs for my 12 mile commute to work at 18-20 MPG. Plenty of people insist on larger vehicles with V8's for no real reason though. - Residents, on 11/18/2008, -13/+26 I think kids are a big reason. I know a lot of friends picking up an SUV when they have kids - it is better than a van, but I still hate huge vehicles. Kids over rule opinion though.
- Foofoofoofoobar, on 11/19/2008, -0/+13If you have a tendency to fall asleep while driving, why the hell are you driving in the first place? Get off the road and quit endangering people.
- ryan83189, on 11/19/2008, -2/+14People buy the car they need for 5 days of the year, and put up with it for the other 360 since its is going to prove "useful" at some point in time. But really, I don't know why SUVs carry the burden of being "environmentally un-friendly" older cars that haven't been tuned up properly get worse mileage and put out worse emissions because they are grandfathered in. My only complaint with them is they create blind spots in the parking lot and on the road, that and about 40% of the drivers are oblivious blonde chicks with one hand on the phone and the other presumably on the wheel. They also have no peripheral vision ans must move their whole head and body to look around (when they want to).
- DougUpndown, on 11/19/2008, -0/+11Seriously, Me004 - you fall asleep while driving, so you drive a huge F350 pickup so that when you hit something, you will live, and the smaller car gets squashed and that driver is killed instead of you??? That's what you're saying?
I want a 500 mile exclusion radius around you, at any time you get behind the wheel. You scare me. - badfishmedia, on 11/19/2008, -3/+13I hate the SUV hating. They take no more gas than a pick up truck or a conversion van and no one bitches about all the suburbanites tooling around in those. How about every third retiree in Florida who drive a Lincoln or Caddy? They get worse mileage than most modern SUVs. I need 4 wheel or all wheel drive where I live, plus I hike, camp, kayak, canoe, etc. I have my 90 pound dog in the car almost every day. I live 5 miles from work and live in a neighborhood where I can walk to stuff, plus I have a motorcycle in the summer. (An old 250 Honda.) My vehicle carbon footprint is relatively low for where I live. Quit judging me, eco-nazi.
- inigomntoya, on 11/19/2008, -0/+10"I, uhm, KNOW a guy who drives a PT Cruiser..."
There, fixed it for you... - BadseedJR, on 11/19/2008, -2/+12Didn't you know? The SUV single handedly caused global warming. Not decades of burning coal or back in the day when all cars had monstrous V8s in them, it was the SUV! Down with the SUV!
- skoles, on 11/19/2008, -1/+11How did our parents ever do it? Oh yes, I remember. We were strapped to the roof of the tiny car because they hadn't invented the SUV yet.
They ignored the wagon/minivan market because SUV's were just new panels bolted onto truck frames. Thus skirting many safety and fuel requirements. Money was put into designing what can be chromed while the station wagon and van was left to go stale. Minus the Dodge Magnum IMO. - Brian48216, on 11/19/2008, -0/+9You just shouldn't be driving then. Period.
- drifter, on 11/19/2008, -5/+14They have a gas guzzlers tax, which honestly shouldnt exist. how is that fair? a prius must have the lithium batteries created thus causing more emissions to create it. Yet, they get tax breaks.
- dblespresso, on 11/19/2008, -0/+9no, everyone else should have smaller cars... just not me
- kamel, on 11/19/2008, -6/+15The Prius is more of a status symbol than SUVs.
- grumpyrain, on 11/19/2008, -0/+8Genuinely curious about that comment. I have a Liberty (Legacy in your market), and there is only 15cm ground clearance. The outback gets another 5cm. How are they driving through 40cm?
- oboshoe, on 11/19/2008, -6/+14The obsession with hating SUV's amuses me.
I prefer a small sports car myself, but I laugh at people who get so bent out of shape, over what other people drive and what their gas bill is.
Sometimes people buy them for stupid reasons, like status symbols. Sometimes people buy them good reason, like needing to haul around it a bunch of crap.
It doesn't matter. What other people drive and spend their money DOESN'T AFFECT you.
Why do some people obsess over the material objects that other people own? Just mind your own damn business. - subliminalurge, on 11/19/2008, -0/+8It depends on lifestyle. And, I suppose, where you live to some degree.
I need the ability to tow 7,000 lbs. Camping and boating are a huge part of our recreational time. The only vehicles capable of towing my boat and camper are an SUV or a pickup. Pickups lack the seating space for the kids and dogs, so the SUV earns a spot in my driveway.
One could argue that I should also have a smaller car for times when the SUV isn't necessary, but my commute is so short that the impact (environmental, financial, whatever) wouldn't justify it. - Nephersir7, on 11/19/2008, -2/+10My parents have always been driving Subaru's (Outback and Legacy) since before i was born and they are way better in the snow or on the ice than your rebranded Ford Escape, and they were never stuck in the snow even if there had been like 40 cm of snow in a storm. So you dont have to be driving a SUV to have a spacious car that is excellent in winter conditions.
- dystra, on 11/19/2008, -1/+9How fat are your friends kids? just saying, 1980something datsun,my mother, me, my sister and still room in the back for groceries.
- mattyboy555, on 11/19/2008, -0/+8here is a bus pass.
you're welcome. - askjeffro, on 11/19/2008, -0/+8The life-cycle energy consumption of hybrids is seriously concerning. Is this what you were trying to articulate?
- Mareshalu, on 11/19/2008, -7/+15That's because it's true most of the time...
- inactive, on 11/19/2008, -11/+18I knew all the tree hugging, convenient truth putzes would be dogging the SUV. How about this, it's my prerogative if I want to drive an automobile that's bigger than a Geo metro. SUV's are practical for a person that does a lot of traveling and needs the space to lug their ***** around. Go ahead and ride your bikes to Whole Foods and mind your own damn business.
- sliksta, on 11/19/2008, -2/+9You are right. Whoever dugg you down probably has a complex over their SUV.
- BadseedJR, on 11/19/2008, -2/+9Don't compare the US to Japan and the UK. The infrastructure there is much more compact than our infrastructure and the population density is way higher. They also have much better public transportation systems. Not saying we couldn't or shouldn't have those things, but we don't.
- orlyfactor, on 11/19/2008, -1/+8Can you say that in the form of a run-on sentence? Oh look, you already did. Thanks.
- oboshoe, on 11/19/2008, -3/+10If you are driving a car, don't bitch about oil dependence.
If you are driving a car, you are at 99% just as at fault as the SUV driver that you are so insanely jealous of. - Nephersir7, on 11/19/2008, -11/+18SUV are wasteful and useless 90% of the time. Sure there are circumstances you absolutely need one, but that doesnt explain the difference in market share for SUV's between the US and European countries or Japan
- jonathandyer, on 11/19/2008, -0/+6Actually Canada supplies most of your oil.
- megamod, on 11/19/2008, -4/+106. AWESOME GAS MILEAGE!!!
- GreatSunJester, on 11/19/2008, -0/+6I drive my SUV to a "whole foods" type store.....
- VeritasAequitas, on 11/19/2008, -0/+6It's supposed to be funny. That is what they say at the beginning of Law and Order SVU. We are talking about SUV's. get it SVU - SUV. Someone has dyslexia.
- RajAtWork, on 11/19/2008, -1/+7I got GMC Acadia. It is a marvelous vehicle and gas mileage on highway is not bad at all. Inside it is larger than Tahoe/Yukon.
Having five people family and dogs it is god-sent. - subliminalurge, on 11/19/2008, -2/+8I don't get the hatred for SUVs and the pushing of minivans in the same sentence.
In my driveway I have a GMC Jimmy and a Dodge Durango. We sold the minivan because it got the same gas mileage as the Jimmy, and wasn't capable of towing. - faithforever, on 11/19/2008, -2/+8I love my SUV (I have a GMC Envoy XL). I would never give it up. It fits my whole family, plus the dogs. And my SUV is incredibly safe and comfortable.
For everyone whining about gas mileage, honestly, it doesn't bother me. Gas could be 5 dollars a gallon and it wouldn't concern me. My SUV only leaves the five mile zone around my home on weekend trips. I don't drive it that much, and fuel economy on short trips is bad in any car. I only fill up once a month and during longer trips.
My family does take a lot of weekend trips to the beach, hiking, camping, or to Ikea etc, and you can't do that in a smaller car. I really want to see someone try to get 6 people, 2 dogs, a cooler and various supplies like hiking gear or boogie boards in a Prius. So, the gas mileage isn't a problem.
I don't get this whole "death of the SUV" thing either. Most people I know drive an SUV. A few have downgraded to crossovers or minivans (I wouldn't be caught dead in one myself), but for families, there aren't any other options. - inigomntoya, on 11/19/2008, -1/+7@Drifter - Hybrids are so overrated...
I see them drive in the carpool lane everyday with only the driver. The state allows them because they are "Clean Fuel" vehicles. Apparently the state legislature doesn't understand that Hybrids use the same fuel as my SUV. Yeah, they get good gas mileage, but on the freeway, I know of a few non-hybrid vehicles that do better (VW Jetta comes to mind). - gixxer600, on 11/19/2008, -7/+13idk about that for the diggers that maybe engineers i hate the hybrids they are trash everyone thinks they are the future and high tech they are ***** they are optimized to make money and make the consumer FEEL good not actually do anything
- cboj, on 11/19/2008, -0/+5I just went From a Large pickup to a Smaller SUV (Explorer). Would have gone smaller but I needed something big enough to pull a trailer to the dump or to the lumberyard to haul plywood and 8ft long lumber. Sorry can't do either in a Prius or a Hybrid SUV.
While my gas mileage is only slightly better, I did know 130 bucks a month off the payment (06 pickup vs 07 Explorer) SO the anti-suv sentiment helped me - ngmcs8203, on 11/19/2008, -3/+8Spot on. We bought our Yukon for the space and towing capacity. We paid extra for the Denali for style. The thing is, we did buy the yukon over the xl for one reason: we couldn't stand paying extra for less than 12inches of additional space.
Why did we go SUV? 2 dogs, 1 kid and wife. So whenever we go to the grocery store, or mall or whatever, we not only need the space for the stroller, but the stuff we buy as well. And if my mother-in-law comes along (which happens a lot) we need to throw up the 2nd captains chair.
What's a shame is that I don't hate you for being frugal and having the opportunity to drive a smaller car (I used to drive a Civic EX), but you hate me for driving an SUV. It was an SUV or van. Vans aren't significantly more fuel efficient than my Yukon, and most look like *****. - Treshnell, on 11/19/2008, -0/+5I really wouldn't mind a smaller SUV for the winters and extra space.
- inactive, on 11/19/2008, -1/+6So how do I get Exxon to buy me one?
Idiot. -
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