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- realeskimopimp, on 07/11/2009, -5/+22Am I the only American who thinks OPEC and the rest of the oil-producing dictators can go ***** themselves?
- S1ngular1ty1, on 07/11/2009, -2/+12What fantasy world does the author of that article live in where gasoline cars are going away any time soon?
And last time I checked, a hybrid car still has a gasoline engine so most of those terms are still applicable. - bdbr, on 07/11/2009, -3/+10They're missing the term for having to be towed home because your EV batteries died. "Screwed" isn't quite specific enough.
- Joemedic, on 07/11/2009, -2/+9No
- 17999, on 07/11/2009, -4/+11Out: Jump Start
In: Reboot - sanchezke70, on 07/11/2009, -5/+11Cry me a ***** river
- Lewie, on 07/11/2009, -2/+8I feel that as long as it's fun to drive, I don't care what's "under the hood" (there's another term for ya).
- justdru, on 07/11/2009, -0/+5Before long we'll see the loss of the Purnndle. That's what Eva Gabor called the transmission in her car when she learned to drive on Green Acres. PRNDL... Purndle. God I love that show and yes I'm random.
- Ebacherville, on 07/11/2009, -1/+6I'm buying a band new car and it will only be a manual transmission, there is something to say for a time tested design..
Sure the automatics have gotten to be very reliable and the CVT's well I want to see them go 200k-300k before I buy one.
However on most manuals all you ever have to do is replace a clutch every 150-180k.. the actual transmission usually outlasts the car - drifter, on 07/11/2009, -1/+6This article seemed really contrived, the author wanted to seem serious/funny at the same time but really failed at both.
- inactive, on 07/11/2009, -0/+3Points are not something you get for running over old ladies.
- walruspanzer, on 07/11/2009, -3/+6Gasoline?
- drifter, on 07/11/2009, -1/+4woah, who the hell waits that long to replace a clutch unless your an old granny. Secondly I know plenty of transmission's that can last 200k or more.
Honestly, get off the whole manual is king idea. Manual is great to have but automatics have been a staple of the car scene for years now. - gtluke, on 07/11/2009, -2/+5for lazy people, or uncoordinated.
- sanchezke70, on 07/11/2009, -1/+4Surley, making cars that rely on batteries that are far, far more damaging to the environment is going backwards. I guess you think Lithium Ion batteries are made from Wheat Grass and Tofu, right?
- S1ngular1ty1, on 07/11/2009, -0/+2Almost no modern race cars use manual transmissions. They are all computer controlled. Manuals are over rated and old technology. In a lot of cases, newer automatic transmissions are faster than manuals.
- Mothrog, on 07/11/2009, -2/+4I didn't know you got a computer, grandpa.
- S1ngular1ty1, on 07/11/2009, -0/+2Oh WOW. You are way off in your understanding of combustion.
The energy is stored in the gasoline. The only reason you need air is to achieve the proper fuel air mixture ratio otherwise the fuel won't ignite. The oxygen is exhausted as a by by product of combustion as carbon dioxide (CO2) and water vapor (H2O). The hydrocarbons in the gasoline are what generate the energy from the combustion because it is the fuel. - TheCash, on 07/11/2009, -0/+2The only time I've ever heard the term "throttle" used in anything car related was "throttle body assembly," so I'm not seeing the big loss there.
As for airplanes, 4 wheelers, go carts and lawn mowers, throttle is still a common term.
I have to agree with the first comment below the article... pretty ***** pointless post. - S1ngular1ty1, on 07/11/2009, -0/+2So F1 drivers are lazy and uncoordinated? They certainly don't use manual transmissions.
- robertisaar, on 07/11/2009, -0/+2oh, but you can...
gas-turbines... - gtluke, on 07/11/2009, -1/+3meh, they are still using them on most motorcycles
- Spire3660, on 07/11/2009, -1/+3I stopped reading at his curious logic for 'throttle'.
- S1ngular1ty1, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1More appropriately megajoules. That way you have less zeros. 1 kW*h = 3.6 MJ
- wesl56, on 07/11/2009, -4/+5pussy
- gtluke, on 07/11/2009, -2/+3um no, those suck. over complicated and no fun. retarded expensive
- S1ngular1ty1, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1"Let me reboot my battery."
Nah, doesn't work. - crazzy88ss, on 07/11/2009, -1/+2Yea, I'm sure those 5 terms will be gone in no time.
/s - Nickolassc, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1I hate the term, why don't they just use units of kilojoules
- darksecret, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1You do know Honda has been using a CVT in the Civic for a while now, since the early '90s iirc.
Also the transmissions you talk about S1 are nice but as seen in the GT-R they still break quite easily (considering the application). I'm partial to the TH transmissions, they're pretty robust for factory transmissions. - sanchezke70, on 07/11/2009, -16/+17Am I the only car enthusiast that thinks the environment can go ***** itself? Give me my petrol burning, manual tranny, combustion engine. Not a ***** overgrown remote control toy car.
- zdiggler, on 07/11/2009, -1/+2wow.. its sad that people have lost the man and machine relationship.
- Spire3660, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1rockets
- untreadatom, on 07/13/2009, -0/+1I am a gear head, a grease monkey. I have built engines for speed. Understand how to build carburetors and turbos. I have owned muscle cars with big blocks and massive lopping cams. I am also an environmentalist. -They don't have to be mutually exclusive. Technology bridges the gap. Look at tesla motors. http://www.nedra.com/index.html There are environmentally friendly cars lifting the front wheels at hitting the traps at well over 150.
- Technopundit, on 07/11/2009, -1/+2The government's giving me 4500 dollars for a 15 yr old minivan.
Gotta love them democrats : -) - ivan423, on 07/11/2009, -2/+3Electric and hybrid cars are just a ***** fad in cities, but gas or diesel engines are never going to disappear.
In the country, the only way to get the job done is with a big block pick up truck. Let me see you haul tons of cargo with an electric car.
Just drive your hybrid back to gay town. - SScottAZ, on 07/11/2009, -1/+2Manuals are easier to screw up by clumsy shifting, racing or off-road.
There is no way your clutch will last that long unless you drive like a nancy. - AlyxVance, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1I totally agree man, every time I want to figure out the energy something is using I always have to convert from ***** kWh. pisses me off so much. There's an energy unit. USE IT!
- samby, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1LOL yeah the govt's basically taking our money and giving it to ppl who would have gotten rid of their old cars anyway and trying to take credit for helping the environment :)
- NtHammer, on 07/15/2009, -0/+1way to miss the point sanchezke, i never mentioned anything about electric cars, or batteries or whatever. but you just went right ahead and assumed im an ignorant green loving hippy - not the case. Gasoline won't last forever, and neither will our world if we treat it like *****, and whatever technological advances pushes us through this stage of oil-dependence and onto renewable, clean energy will be moving us forward. But that stuff will never happen when ignorant people are always finding something to fight about.
- gtluke, on 07/11/2009, -2/+2gasoline is awesome like that because in an engine you aren't getting power from gasoline. you are getting power from the oxygen that comes free in air. the gasoline is merely what kick starts the boom.
every time your engine completes a cycle it uses a fraction of a drop of gas, and typically 2 liters air. so basically most of your power is free and you don't have to store it or take it with you.
with an EV you have to take 100% of the power you need to drive. which also raises the safety issue of that much potential energy in one spot. could be one big boom if something goes wrong. - wesl56, on 07/11/2009, -4/+4you cant beat an electric motor for acceleration
- darksecret, on 07/11/2009, -0/+0Carbs haven't been a factory term since the mid-80's, they were mostly phased out by throttle body injection at first then multi port.
- PirateD00D, on 07/11/2009, -2/+2I thought carburetor was going to be on that list of dying terms. I guess that would be an "extinct" term...
- steelersfan7roe, on 07/11/2009, -5/+5kilowatt hour is my favorite.
As in the national average price for a kilowat hour is 11 cents, therefore you will be paying the equivelent of 2-4 cents a mile with an electric car vs 12+ cents for a 22mpg combustion engine.
(According to the INL )http://www.cortexity.com/nicksblog/images/electric ... - dattaway, on 07/11/2009, -1/+1My car does 88mph per jiggawatt and that's the way I likes it.
- suspect23, on 07/11/2009, -1/+1"It claims 50 kilowatts (67 hp) continuous and 185 kW (248 hp) peak power with a 0-60 time in 3.7 seconds. That matches the sprint time of a Porsche 911 Turbo putting down 480 horsepower. Why the difference? Torque. Electric motors produce gobs off it, and it’s all available the moment the motor starts spinning."
HP is torque applied over time. The author apparently doesn't know what math is.
The difference in this poorly illustrated comparison is weight, not torque. The torque curve may be shaped differently in the tesla, but the end result is a similar hp/pound ratio. There is also inaccurate data cited. The tesla that does 0-60 in 3.7s has a hand wound 288hp motor. The 2009 Porsche 911 Turbo's 0-60 with a tiptronic (removing driver shifting lag) is 3.4s. Can't really use those numbers for a direct comparison without more data.
If anything, the electric motor may be more efficient in delivering the hp the motor generates to the wheels, but the authors suggestion that an electric motor hp > combustion engine hp is BS. - ThanatosST, on 07/11/2009, -2/+2I'm with you there. My next car will be a manual, unless something else can give me the same control over my car's engine as a manual does.
- S1ngular1ty1, on 07/11/2009, -1/+1Really, then why is Nissan, Mitsubishi, Audi, VW, and countless other car companies using these style transmissions in their best sports cars?
- bdbr, on 07/11/2009, -1/+1I was surprised at this: "An average American household consumes about 30 kW-hrs per day, which is also the approximate amount of energy stored in one standard U.S. gallon of gasoline."
No wonder its so hard to get off of gasoline. That's a lot of energy in an easily-transferable form. Seems like we'll need a ***** more electrical generation capacity if we start using EVs. -
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