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- Jeffler, on 01/20/2008, -1/+48Someone seed me a Ferrari please? ;)
- tandy400, on 01/20/2008, -1/+44I can see the Digg headlines already... "Man dies in first Goatse-related car accident."
- solidus636, on 01/20/2008, -1/+32I wonder how long it will be before the RIAA and MPAA get on this because of "entertainment content"...
- allaboutdatiki, on 01/20/2008, -2/+15How long until this is built into the common TomTom? :)
- thtroyer, on 01/20/2008, -0/+13http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3506468/Cars_2006__(nt ... ?
- Flashman, on 01/20/2008, -2/+14This system would work best if it was open source, or at least an open standard. Just as the internet relies on TCP/IP, CarTorrent won't be useful unless there's a common protocol.
And how long until auto insurance companies mandate the collection and submission of your car's speed and "near miss" incident log to determine how much they want to charge you? - Claw787, on 01/20/2008, -0/+12Cool..... Do some hacks and we can pirate while driving.....yaar.
- inactive, on 01/20/2008, -1/+12***** THE CARIAA!
- rreadysetno, on 01/20/2008, -0/+91 hour.
- dotlizard, on 01/20/2008, -2/+10do want.
- noots, on 01/20/2008, -0/+8from what i read, it's more to do with the cars knowing where each other are on the road and sharing other usefull information internally.
not an MSN type network where "icy hot stuntaz" pull up behind you and spam various insults trying to get you to move out of the way. - NotOptium, on 01/20/2008, -0/+7Can I use it to yell at the guy who just cut me off?
- Klink258, on 01/20/2008, -1/+7A man is pulled over by a cop.
"Sir, are you aware that leeching is worth a 2 pt summons?" - roffelmeh, on 01/20/2008, -1/+7Gerla and his team instead propose to connect cars to one another using the wireless networking platform they're developing, which could be up and running by as early as 2012.
2012? too late - hardcorerikki, on 01/20/2008, -3/+9sounds like a plan
- jbsnyder, on 01/20/2008, -0/+5Huh... sounds kinda similar to the p2p system Doctorow described in Eastern Standard Tribe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Standard_Trib ...
- renegadeafk, on 01/20/2008, -3/+8Call me when we can download cars
- sanman, on 01/20/2008, -0/+3How about cars warning each other about the speed traps?
- aj3289, on 01/20/2008, -0/+3The first step towards cars piloting themselves?
- ff1959, on 01/20/2008, -0/+3Excellent. There will soon be government stooges driving in true hackermobiles, spying on us. Loser dirtbags that got fired from the post office will staff said cars.
- netfool, on 01/20/2008, -0/+3Wouldn't it be great for ALL the cars in a traffic jam to start moving forward at the same time, rather than WAIT for the 200 cars in front of you to start moving forward one by one? Then as the group increased in speed, they would automatically adjust their intervals to safer distances. I bet that alone would reduce traffic jams quite a bit.
I use cruise control every time I'm on a highway, and have thought about creating some type of device that would do the above. I hate having to re-adjust my cruise control setting because I'm getting too close to the car ahead of me. - deadcrickets, on 01/20/2008, -0/+3Some like Progressive already offer that for discounts. There was a court case involving the black box built into many GM cars and trucks where the guy was found liable because he lied about his speeding. So precedence is being established.
"Within
the last 12 months, data from selected Ford and Isuzu models manufactured since 2001
and certain 1994 and 1995 GM models can now be extracted. Additional models to have
this capability in the near term include other Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury vehicles as well
as Toyotas. "
"Rasch, the former head of the U.S. Justice Department's computer crime unit, added that anyone interested in obtaining the data from a vehicle should be allowed to do so only with a court order. Lawmakers in California, for example, passed a law recently requiring just that." - rarson, on 01/21/2008, -0/+3In the future, everything will be networked, even our clothing. It'll bring a whole new level to the term "sneakernet."
- rizzo2008, on 01/20/2008, -0/+3Privacy could be a big problem and could be used by the police to identify speeders or other nanny road traffic enforcement. I don't want my car networked or monitored in any way.
- fastupfront, on 01/20/2008, -2/+5hmm... I'm wondering more along the lines of driver focus. It is already illegal in many countries to talk on a cell phone while driving. What will this do to road safety? The article claims: "There will be immediate benefits in driving safety as well as in content distribution. Car-to-car communications can be used to avoid accidents by alerting the drivers of imminent danger. " I'm interested in seeing just how user friendly this thing will be.
- cr3ative, on 01/20/2008, -0/+2It's got the skeleton of that already; users submit traffic info to the Tomtom, which then sends it to a server which in turn sends it to nearby Tomtoms.
I can't see it being too difficult to remove the server from that flow. - jakv5, on 01/20/2008, -0/+2This is cool. This should work well with the DASH ECDIS gps system they are coming out with that lets you upload and share suer created map mashups!
- TrinitronX, on 01/21/2008, -0/+2" However, Gerla says the network is not without faults: "The two most critical aspects that could go wrong if the network is implemented are location privacy, because drivers do not want others to know where they are; and attacks where a driver could maliciously inject wrong traffic congestion information to persuade other drivers to get out of its way." "
I think he forgot to add these two to the list of faults:
cars would be able to use their onboard radios to exchange three categories of information [...]
1) advertisements and videos of upcoming attractions)
2) urban surveillance (collecting information which could be used later by police for forensic investigations).
Sure, using it for safe navigation purposes would be fine, that will help, however, video and advertisements nullify any gains from this, adding more unnecessary distractions to the driver. Plus, I don't even have to go into the privacy concerns issue with "urban surveillance", that's got "big brother" written all over it. Also, depending on how the technology is implemented, there will most likely be more than the simple attack he describes with broadcasting fake safety information... if it runs code and receives data, it's potentially vulnerable to more malicious attacks (ie: car viruses). - andywebb95, on 01/20/2008, -1/+3Car cluster anyone?
Dugg for the concept. - 89992, on 01/21/2008, -0/+2As long as it doesn't transmit the fact that you were just speeding to the police car in front of you.
- inactive, on 01/20/2008, -0/+2YAY!....now i will be able to flame that bitch yakking on her cell, in SUV that almost ran me off the road....
- Stalks, on 01/20/2008, -2/+4TRAFFIC JAM AHEAD, PLEASE SEED, PLEASE SEED, KTHXBA
- fakesinatra, on 01/20/2008, -0/+2It will depend on how good the voice recognition software is and how good the software is at filtering out unwanted messages. If I can issue a verbal command like "truck tire debris in the center lane. Transmit." and have it go out to cars behind me, great.
If I have to see messages from every disgruntled driver telling me (or others) exactly why they're pissed off...that's not so great.
Also, there's the advertising problem. Do I want every billboard broadcasting the company jingle into my car as I pass? No. GPS units will already tell you where the nearest gas station, rest area, restaurant, etc is. Of course by 2012 I hope to be driving something that only needs a fill up once a month. - kaffein, on 01/20/2008, -1/+3Do not want.
- inverselogic, on 01/20/2008, -0/+21 hour..
- DeathfireD, on 01/20/2008, -0/+2lol I can just see it now. People sending out false info:
Cartorrent: "Up ahead is a stampede of naked diggers".
Driver: o.O wtf.
Cartorrent: "all your base are belong to us". - bitterbug, on 01/20/2008, -0/+2Imagine the application of this in bad weather conditions. Anyone who has driven on a highway should be quite used to seeing people flying by at the speed limit in heavy fog or rain. Now think of what this system could do for you when that guy causes a pileup just over the rise ahead of you. Your system receives feedback that the cars ahead of you have suddenly come to a stop, and lets you know to decelerate or even handles the deceleration for you and turns on your hazard lights. And of course you don't get rear ended because it passes on the information to the drivers behind you at the same time.
- Justice101, on 01/20/2008, -0/+2lol, imagine being stuck in gridlock traffic on the highway trying to go to Disney World, and chatting to everyone else that's stuck. That'd be awesome, it'd also be like the chatting on the Virgin Airlines planes Kevin Rose was talking about. Awesome!
- rizzo2008, on 01/21/2008, -0/+1NO!!! Do you all want to lose any more privacy? This is 1984 like stuff and I will rip this out of my car if it ever comes standard.
- socokoolaid, on 01/20/2008, -0/+1I always wanted to cuss the car that cuts me off via car-chat. Maybe hack their display with a Goatse.
- ArchAngel21x, on 01/21/2008, -0/+1Because people are too lazy to roll the window down and yell at each other :p
- eleusis, on 01/21/2008, -0/+1YES! Exactly what I thought :D
- rizzo2008, on 01/21/2008, -0/+1its the other way around the police could use it to identify speeders and traffic violations.
- disgruntledgoat, on 01/21/2008, -0/+1"But it's true that less aggressive drivers, probably a sizeable fraction of the population, will be reluctant to embrace the technology at first..." - lol a sizeable fraction what're we talking 99/100th's ,
Sounds too intrusive to me but people like to think there car is Nightrider - rarson, on 01/21/2008, -0/+1And the ***** up front wouldn't be allowed to rubberneck as he drove by an accident.
- Vraja, on 01/21/2008, -0/+1Can you remember a while ago, when thier was some sort of law suit because a guy had uploaded the buleprints to some part of a Ferrari? the worst part was they sued because they thought people would use those new 3dD printers to the items!
- xaeon, on 01/20/2008, -0/+1Wow. This is exactly like an idea I had years ago when I was working out what I was going to do my diisertation on for my Artificial Intelligence degree. In the end, I went for something else and really regret it. This is a fantastic idea with tons of practical applications to increase safety, journey times, etc.
- ipodwheels, on 01/29/2008, -0/+1Inter vehicle communication was supposed to be a safety feature. Now with P2P, let the increase in car crashes begin...
- cammj, on 01/20/2008, -0/+1um, can you just imagine say a car with a virus sending misleading and incorrect information on traffic hazards etc to other cars?
- tingrin87, on 01/20/2008, -1/+2buried for "I honestly didn't read the article...."
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