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- waydee, on 07/10/2008, -3/+32It's ***** and google shouldn't be involving themselves with something like this, it's bad for image.
- inactive, on 07/09/2008, -3/+30No Mac client. :(
- falstaff, on 07/09/2008, -3/+27"Few thought IM or social networking would catch on within enterprises, but now that's clearly what has taken place."
Has social networking really caught on with big businesses? And IM has only caught on to the extent that it has because it's a marginal improvement over e-mail for many businesses (quicker, less formal, etc).
What's the advantage here? A bunch of cartoony characters can sit down together and perform predetermined emotes? Unless you can capture actual gestures and real-world events in real time (requiring additional hardware to interface with), what's the point? Even with that extensibility, congrats, you've got video-conferencing which has been around for decades.
Sure, it will be a fun way to interact with people, like a Second Life Lite, but calling it a breakthrough for business is laughable. - simplistics06, on 07/10/2008, -2/+21lively fails hard
- kingUssop, on 07/10/2008, -2/+20Are you kidding me... it's like a bad Second Life clone. There's no need to blow smoke up Google's butt, they aren't going to go cry on their money bags as this thing gets ignored.
- inactive, on 07/10/2008, -2/+20It sucks, don't worry about it
- DeathJux, on 07/10/2008, -0/+17Great, so now your co-workers can see you represented as you truly are, in full furry regalia.
"Say, Mark, I just wanted to let you know about an upcoming... uh, upcoming proposal—wait, why is your avatar a giant rabbit wearing a diaper?" - ironeus, on 08/01/2008, -2/+17I wonder if it will stay in Beta for as long as Gmail has.
- beersnob, on 07/10/2008, -1/+13OK, maybe I'm just too old (37!) but WTF do you need a virtual world with avatars to conduct business? I've been a freelance telecommuter for 10 years and I've never felt the urge to conduct business meetings in second life. Send an e-mail, pick up the goddamn phone, use Skype, or even IM. All of these accomplish the same thing without the fancy interface. I guess all those video games really did rot the brains of the Millennium generation!
- ClassicQ, on 07/10/2008, -0/+9or Linux support :(
I'm not too surprised [we are both a minority], hopefully in time other platforms will be supported - it is disappointing though - erictheturtle, on 07/10/2008, -1/+10Please everyone stop having such a nerdgasm just because it's Google. This doesn't "change everything." Sun, for one, has been working on something like this for years.
Buried as lame (but perhaps inaccurate would be better). - AlanFang, on 07/10/2008, -2/+8Second Life teaches us that virtual reality worlds tend to be used for humping and gambling, not serious business. I don't see how Lively will be any different.
- mikelgan, on 07/08/2008, -2/+8http://www.lively.com/html/landing.html
- dajernts, on 07/09/2008, -1/+7Hmm...they're pushing this as a supplement to business communication? I don't know about that but I'm sure it will become a hit on overcrowded MySpace pages.
- jamestwisleton, on 07/10/2008, -1/+6"because it can serve as a replacement for real-world interaction"
It really can't. It's a great system don't get me wrong but it's still far far away from "replacing real-world interaction" for anyone. It's early days and you can bet there'll be some amazing improvements in the future but I doubt to the extent this suggests. - kidcodea, on 07/10/2008, -0/+5if you really were a google fan you would know that lively is utter garbage by their standards.
- Ardentfrost, on 07/10/2008, -1/+6I dunno why, but this (as does Second Life) reminds me of Microsoft Bob from the early-mid 90's. Anyone else remember that crap?
- moviefreakusa, on 07/09/2008, -1/+6It'll probably be in beta forever. Although, right now, it's *really* in beta.
- whitecranberry, on 07/10/2008, -1/+6I was just in 'Lively' and I have to say its *****' terrible. The viewport is too small, the navigation is completely unintuitive and frustrating. Oh, and it's really laggy but I think that is due to the zerg rush of people using it.
And how is this going to help telecommuters? Oh look at my cute Avatar, now that's work presence.... Who writes this *****? Really... - lumbergh, on 07/10/2008, -2/+7Lively is deadly as long as I can't use it on my Mac. Gotta love one-platform "browser plugins"...
- deemzzzz, on 07/10/2008, -1/+6Why is this good for telecommuters again?
So we can have all the joys of "virtually" sitting in a conference room?
Perhaps so we can once again have the joys of "what? I didn't hear you"
So we can IM on yet another platform?
No thanks!
I'll stick to Skype, Google Talk or the plain old conference call - rowjimmy, on 07/10/2008, -0/+4i think iGoogle is useful simply because it probably took them little-to-no work to make it (i'm assuming most of the feeds just use rss that was already there?) and it's a good way to waste time when opening your webbrowser. but yeah, this lively is a piece of crap.
- RyeBrye, on 07/10/2008, -1/+5SONS OF BITCHES.
If it didn't take leaving my house, I'd go kick their door in. - RoccoMcTaco, on 07/10/2008, -2/+5THAT'S WHAT SHE oh forget it.
- inactive, on 07/10/2008, -1/+4Uhh I just wasted 20 minutes at that place.
- mikelgan, on 07/09/2008, -4/+7Here's the room I created on my blog: http://www.therawfeed.com/room.html
- rowjimmy, on 07/10/2008, -1/+4wow, people were paid to make this?
- kidcodea, on 07/10/2008, -1/+3Its so bad, it almost makes pownce look like a nice idea/website.
Lively is all that google is not.
Without doubt, anyone with half a brain that tested it for couple mins can atest, its gonna be #1 google failure.
The more they invest in this the more EPIC FAIL it will be.
Why are there people paid high sums, that let crap like this pass by?
***** gimme minimum wage and ill produce and QT projects way way better than this crap. - dajernts, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2"Another layer of complexity" That's a good point, they should be focusing of tying already established methods of communication, the ones you mentioned, into a more finely tuned system. But I guess Google just wants to protect their ass in case, in some bazaar twist, virtual worlds become mainstream.
- ShaneMcDeath, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2I think this is actually the future and they are getting on board early. We're still in the tacky era for this kind of thing but this type of interaction is inevitable and as the technology improves, people are going to start to "get it". Plenty don't at the moment, but that's fine, history repeats itself.
- blastcube, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2buried for no mac client :/
- dinostabOMG, on 07/10/2008, -1/+3Anybody remember VRML? This seems as useless as that - I don't get why the author assumes businessmen are going to create avatars with suits and a ties - just so the avatars can sit at a 3D model of a conference table, when a conference call would work just as well. What makes this better? That you can "visit" booths or youtube pages? I can visit those at my computer by clicking an HTML link, and I don't even have to wander some 3D cavern using WASD. This is a silly idea.
- jb0nd38372, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2Join UFB_recruting and i'll give you something to shoot at.
- rakerman, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2What a load of breathless baloney. "replacement for real-world interaction"? I think the author needs a reality check.
- elementfire, on 07/10/2008, -1/+3This looks substantially worse than PS Home right now. Which is shocking.
- mikeophile, on 07/10/2008, -1/+3This won't be ready for real business situations until there are virtual TPS reports and an accurate Lundberg simulation.
- sandbags, on 07/10/2008, -1/+3it would be nice if it worked. I spent half an hour and I couldn't connect to a single room.
- bashturd, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2This changes NOTHING. It's just like second life, only it looks to be geared towards a younger crowd. You read and read about how company's are investing in building foundations in these virtual worlds, but I have yet to see a company who has come out and said it has paid off in any way for them. (please correct me if I am wrong)
I will say this is better than second life, as there are no furries, and virtual whore's won't be quite as obvious. - Fortyseven, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2I tried this last night, and I was completely stunned at how ***** it was.
I'm not quite used to seeing Google push something this poor and obviously not at all ready for public use. The one other time was with Orkut, though that was a lot more usable at launch. :P - goatface, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1me and a few of friends tried it out today for about 4 hours. didn't think it was that bad. A few ui fixes and adding stuff like a way to keep chat log always open would be a start.
- synwolf, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1I, sir, have retreated from your lawn.
- dajernts, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1And then, instead of looking at lines of code all day, we can all look at our virtual selves looking at lines of code all day.
- inactive, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1Sorry I am a clan of one.
- synwolf, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1I, good sir, have retreated from your lawn.
- RyeBrye, on 07/10/2008, -1/+2I installed BOB on top of Windows 3.1 in VMWare a year or so ago. Bob really, really sucked. Every "room" you went to had that damn dog that would "help" you every single time you went into a room...
- jb0nd38372, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1No No, the server, not the clan.
- inactive, on 07/10/2008, -1/+2Agreed
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