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- DurtyJ, on 03/15/2008, -23/+141"expelling the woman and some 200 other members of the Landless Movement from a privately-owned tract of land"
PRIVATELY OWNED LAND. So basically you got 200 squatters on land you own and they're trying to protest? gtfo.
Bury me all you want but what a bunch of bleeding ***** hearts. - chicoer2001, on 03/15/2008, -15/+91They're not protesters they're squatters. They squat on private lands and refuse to move.
- db0255, on 03/15/2008, -10/+84she's doing a great job repelling those 20 armed guards.
- inactive, on 03/15/2008, -6/+61Great article but it ignores 2 facts:
1-she is a sqatter
2-It doesnt show her at all being beaten as the article suggests. It looks scary but if she was beaten and the camera man could catch a picture like that, why couldnt he get a picture of the actual police brutality? - padrebuf, on 03/15/2008, -11/+62get the crap outta there! wtf...
- tdawg202, on 03/15/2008, -2/+52I have little pity for the so-called "Landless Movement." I am an American living in Brazil, and although I came here as a sympathizer for their cause, I've come to realize that they are essentially professional squatters, moving from tract to tract and region to region, making a living off the "settlement" payments that landowners agree to to regain control of their land. They have refused relocation offers from the government many times, and actually make a better living than the majority of Brazilians.
Is the distribution of land grossly unfair in Brazil? Absolutely. Is this the right way to change that? Nope. - HiKevinRose, on 03/15/2008, -15/+61Leslie was always forgetting her guard uniform..
- oreonblade, on 03/15/2008, -11/+47Land Owner: "Get off my lawn!"
- inactive, on 03/16/2008, -5/+30Listen, I'm an atheist but, it's not fair to blame the church for something completely unrelated. You may have a vendetta but to outright blame the church for "overpopulation" is ludicrous. That's the same type of intolerant thinking you seem to be preaching against; seems hypocritical and I would define it as a cheap shot.
Believe it or not people make stupid decisions by themselves. - Chompy, on 03/16/2008, -4/+27Agreed. Also, hey, here's another idea: how about not bringing your 18 month old toddler along when you decide to stand up to the riot squad?
- DurtyJ, on 03/15/2008, -8/+31P.S. Heavy handed opression? Give me a ***** break. There's not a single hint of violence. Stop trying to exaggerate the situation.
- Drkgodess, on 03/15/2008, -7/+29It was not a protest. They're basically homeless people and they were being forcibly removed from private property. She's holding her child b/c that's all she can do.
- Sinten, on 03/15/2008, -2/+23Think the image has anything to do with a "protest?" RTFA before posting stupid comments
- Fizban140, on 03/15/2008, -2/+23"In such circumstances do we need to know the details of the dispute to have any doubts that what we are witnessing is wrong?"
Of course you need the details, the details always matter. She could have asked to have that done to her (she most likely didn't) or she could have done something else that justified this. This incident probably isn't justified, but the details always matter. - foreignwarren, on 03/15/2008, -11/+25:(
- youri, on 03/16/2008, -2/+16The squatters were also trying to kill police with bows and arrows....... Who were only following orders and upholding the law.
What would happen if a bunch of people decided to live on your property, would you say the consitution guarantees you a right to property and want them out? Especially if they are violent and spread disease.
I think yes. - ricree, on 03/16/2008, -2/+16I don't know the details of the situation clearly enough to have an opinion about it, but it clearly is a complicated issue with many different aspects that would need to be considered. In this case, I think that we would have been far better served by a thousand words than by one picture with very little context.
- FK0123, on 03/16/2008, -8/+20Need a bit more information about this "PRIVATELY OWNED LAND" .... wouldn't suprise me in the least if this was land that people lived on that no one "owned" until one day somebody slipped a government official a nice wad of cash to draw up documents saying it was theirs.
- inactive, on 03/15/2008, -5/+16???
They didn't go to a protest, the government is forcing them to move.
They did not own the land though, so I have to say I am not all that moved to the plight of this mother who does not have any money or land to raise a child she willingly brought into this world. - inactive, on 03/15/2008, -27/+38They need more land because of growing population. One way to help would be to have less kids and use a condom, but the Church says you will go to hell if you do that, so then you have photo's like this.
I blame the Church and the ignorance of the people who hold power in Brazil. - pendrachken, on 03/16/2008, -2/+13And she also thought her shield looked a little strange today...
- sevenslashfour, on 03/16/2008, -1/+11I feel bad for laughing at that.
- neko6, on 03/16/2008, -4/+14Good point, I'm sure all the people who cry for the "poor oppressed woman" would sing a different song if she and her few dozen friends hanged around in their back yard.
- Chompy, on 03/16/2008, -3/+11She could instead choose to move away from the advancing riot police. You know, since she has a toddler in her arms.
- relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -4/+12You're not supposed to explain the funny out of it
- JimJD, on 03/16/2008, -3/+10I feel bad for the woman but....
She has a (hers?) child with her. Storm troopers are bringing up the rear with batons and shields.
Common sense survival impulse dictates, get the hell away! Move! Start hoofing it!
If not for herself, at least the kid.
Could be a staged photo op too. - CaptainTater, on 03/16/2008, -2/+9"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
- bicyclethief, on 03/16/2008, -2/+9I guess an PWND wouldn't be appropriate here...
- DurtyJ, on 03/15/2008, -5/+12Which would be a case of photographer hyperbole *****. These people, as a poster on the page noted, are part of a semi-terrorist organization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landless_Workers%27_M ...
They are not some helpless beings just trying to get by in life. - neko6, on 03/16/2008, -1/+7Why should he "help" outlaws? Especially outlaws who abuse and endanger children?
- spiffytech, on 03/16/2008, -3/+9"Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great..."
- grimward, on 03/16/2008, -1/+6And she doesn't have a hazard suit or a crowbar...
- DurtyJ, on 03/16/2008, -1/+6@GramarNatzi What the *****? Yes, that would be exactly a purchase. You keep posting these stupid ***** comments all over this thread that make no sense. Seriously, stop talking. I'm getting tired of burying you.
- neko6, on 03/16/2008, -2/+7Let her go to a public park, or set up a demonstration in front of the Parliament - not sit in some person's private land.
- neko6, on 03/16/2008, -3/+8Digg is highly liberal and thus anti-authority - most of them will side with the squatter over the riot police, and the Palestinian terrorists over Israeli soldiers. They just always protect the underdog, even if the underdog is extremely wrong, violent or a murderer. They forget that the riot police or soldiers are also human beings who only attempt to keep order with minimum casualties, sometimes in the cost of their own lives.
- RomeyRome, on 03/16/2008, -1/+6"that no one "owned" until one day somebody slipped a government official a nice wad of cash to draw up documents saying it was theirs."
I believed what you just described there is a purchase. - neko6, on 03/16/2008, -1/+6Maybe I'm missing something, but combined with the article, what we have in the picture is a non-violent response of the police to 200 rioting zealot individuals who attempt to murder each and every one of them. I see the police using ZERO force, in fact being so careful as to not harming anyone, that the woman can continue to carry her child while justice is served and she is moved from someone's property. That's not oppression, its first-world-level moral policing, and you would expect the police to do EXACTLY the same (or worse) if she refused to leave your bathroom.
Knowing the story, and combined with the extremely propagandist description (where is anyone "beaten"?) I can't find anything sad about this picture. - underdugg, on 03/16/2008, -0/+5All you folks talking about "property rights" -- keep in mind:
Landowners in Brazil do not have an unbroken chain of possession going back to the beginning of time. Land is often stolen from poorer people via various methods of coercion , by the state or large landowners.
However, in this case, we simply need more facts. - sirbeta, on 03/16/2008, -0/+5It looks like her suit got torn off, you can still see part of the orange hazard suit near her legs.
- tyywebb, on 03/16/2008, -0/+5How much is this picture worth?
http://gamesnet.vo.llnwd.net/o1/gamestar/objects/1 ... - SSUK, on 03/16/2008, -1/+5How does one redeem these thousand words?
- indicava, on 03/15/2008, -10/+14this is just another of many examples of how the israelis are oppressing the palest... oops... brazil huh?
- PeterODactyl, on 03/16/2008, -0/+4If you want to be a good journalist, you can't take sides.
- neko6, on 03/16/2008, -1/+5Jews don't kick out Palestinians, WTF are u talking about?
- loroleg, on 03/15/2008, -1/+5Diggs servers can't repel traps of that magnitude
- DurtyJ, on 03/16/2008, -4/+8wtg on trying to assume the worst because you see a picture of a seemingly helpless woman confronted by a bunch of police officers.
The problem with these pictures is that it plays with peoples emotions and tricks them into thinking that these people are being savagely mistreated by authorities. Look at the wikipedia entry I posted.
"Overall, 16 leaders of the MST were indicted for theft, vandalism, trespassing, resisting arrest and for holding others in captivity."
"the MST was reported to have helped the PCC, the prison-gang criminal organization which perpetrated the bloodiest assault against public establishments in the history of the state of São Paulo."
Please take note, that this woman is a part of this organization. - DurtyJ, on 03/16/2008, -2/+6For one, you must be so proud of yourself that you dug that little gem of a statistic up. Except for the fact that it still means nothing because it's a meaningless statistic and you have no other facts to bring to the table. 1.6% own 46.8% of the land? Ok? Here's some fact for you.
The population of America is approx 300,000,000.
There is close to 3,000,000 owners of farmland in America (land on which crops could be grown) http://www.census.gov/apsd/www/statbrief/sb93_10.p ... So roughly 3% of the population owns farmland.
On the same page, they own an average of 280 acres each.
3,000,000 x 280 = 840,000,000 acres
According to this page http://www.farmlandinfo.org/agricultural_statistic ... 938,279,056 acres are owned by farmers, so that number is very close.
Americas land size is 2,263,960,501 acres according to that page, and on wikipedia it is close to that as well. Being that I couldn't find a statistic for how much arable land there is in America, I'm only going to tell you this statistic.
3% of Americas populations owns 41% of ALL the land in America. Not even just farmable land, which would probably be something like 3% owns 90% of all farmable land in America.
Shut the ***** up and sit. I'm pretty sure that whips the llamas ***** ass of your statistic. Am I wrong? Someone care to point out something I missed? - smokeymcdank, on 03/16/2008, -1/+5Protesting and squatting are not mutually exclusive. One can protest through squatting. This picture is painful and the story behind it because of the level of force used to remove this people from the land. Does it not seem heavy handed?
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