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- spartan777, on 07/01/2009, -2/+28It is asinine and reckless to claim that the internet came from RAND. The internet was conceived in the Department of Defense and matured in the State University system (MIT, U of Minn, etc). RAND may have helped devise the rudiments of one aspect of the internet, but it shares a very, very minor role in its ultimate creation as we know it today.
- Ymeg, on 07/01/2009, -2/+23"Another genius, mathematician Albert Wohlstetter, came up with the fail-safe concept, which saved the world from nuclear conflagration several times."
Doesn't seem that bad.. - emjaysea, on 07/01/2009, -3/+22"that NASA planned the first satellite to orbit Earth" ??? Why would anyone think that? The Russians planned and launched Sputnik, not NASA, and certainly not RAND. Doesn't exactly make me want to read the rest of the article...
- UnFriendlyFire, on 07/01/2009, -7/+24The Rand Corporation, in conjunction with the reverse vampires...
- aesur, on 07/01/2009, -1/+17they're not very good at it..
- pathouston22, on 07/01/2009, -0/+16Wow, this is very important to todays debate on healthcare:
"Nixon wanted to know if free health care made people healthier. To find the answer, RAND’s Health Division spent 10 years acting as the insurance company for more than 5,000 people around the country.
In the end, RAND’s research found that people who paid for health care were just as healthy as people who got it for free. With free health care, people went in for more regular medical screenings, but their other habits—exercise, diet, smoking—were worse. The message was not lost on the insurance industry, nor on the federal government. In 1982, when the study was released, only 30 percent of medical plans had deductibles. Five years later, more than 90 percent did. " - LiquidIse, on 07/01/2009, -14/+29shadowy figures pulling string from behind curtains running this country with the international zionist neoconservative big-pharma banker cartels!
I'm sorry. the idea a few people control the nation is preposterous, and anyone who believes that nonsense is pretty light headed - fmaxwell, on 07/01/2009, -11/+22You are such a right wing conspiracy nut that it's just frigging hilarious.
The CFR? The Council of Foreign Relations -- the independent, non-partisan think tank formed in 1921?
OH MY GOD! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! People working in the executive branch are members of a respected think tank that issues advisory statements on foreign policy! Hurry, while you still can get out! Get to the airport and book a flight out of the country.
As Digg user brstilson wrote, "If there was no CFR, No Bilderberg Group, No Freemasons, paranoid conspiracy theorists would latch on to something else."
Digg user saisumimen penned, "Let me guess, the Illuminati, Freemasons and "CFR" are in leagues with the reptile-men who will make a well-meaning Obama do their bidding."
"(as a special bonus to any Christians out there, take a close look at Tricomm's official logo and see if that doesn't creep you out)"
from rationalwiki.com: "Some of the wackier end-times gurus like Mary Stewart Relfe and Hal Lindsey also noted the Trilateral Commission logo looks like a stylized '666' (if you stare at it long enough and use your imagination)." Congratulations! You're right in there with the "wackier end-times" nut-jobs.
As a special bonus to any non-Christians out there, take a close look at Christianity's official image of a man being tortured to death on a cross and see if that doesn't creep you out. - ZiggyPlayedG, on 07/01/2009, -2/+13Oh man, Dr. Strangelove.
Nothing else to say, just...what a great movie. - boozedrinker, on 07/01/2009, -1/+10Wait, I thought the Free Masons controlled America...
- smashTasker, on 07/01/2009, -1/+10They must be pretty busy!
- inactive, on 07/01/2009, -5/+14shhhhh don't piss on people's purposeless conspiracies!
- CrazedLeper, on 07/01/2009, -0/+8The Goldfish Fanciers are defunct following a hostile takeover by the producers of "Cat Fancy" magazine.
- kingofinternet, on 07/01/2009, -3/+11i know a guy who was recruited by rand.
big nerd. huge nerd. - MindTrigger, on 07/01/2009, -3/+11It depends on what you call a "few" people. I bet you think your politicians actually have power too, right? They are a bunch of bloated, lazy ignorant idiots with large salaries and lots of vacation time who do exactly as they are told or paid to do by those people and corporations who are really running the planet. If you can look at the current state of the U.S. and tell me that 'We the People' are in charge, you are insane.
- inferno10, on 07/01/2009, -0/+7under the supervision of the saucer people...
- sharkd, on 07/01/2009, -0/+7The Queen,
The Vatican,
The Gettys,
The Rothschilds,
And Colonel Sanders, before he went ***** up.
The Pentavirate: a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as "The Meadows." - HippyInASuit, on 07/01/2009, -11/+17But don't worry because that kind of stuff doesn't happen anymore, because if it did that would be a conspiracy theory, and there is no such thing. See how it works? The past is past and completely unrelated to the present. The past has no relevance to us now. We live in a perfect world without any conflict of interests.
There is no military industrial complex, just industries that make military weapons and lobby legislators, but its not fascism because this is America. - alamedaman, on 07/01/2009, -0/+6Sideshow Bob pretended to be Leslie Hap Hapablap in the episode where he threatens to nuke springfield
- Balanced, on 07/01/2009, -0/+6C'mon. You're just a chicken. Your evilness is limited to that of McNuggets.
- hiphoc, on 07/01/2009, -3/+9Actually Al Gore invented the internet. Look it up man!!!
- vbullinger, on 07/01/2009, -1/+6That's from So I Married an Axe Murderer, in case you're wondering. It's funny, whether or not you agree with Richmomz.
- rharris, on 07/01/2009, -1/+6We planned it first, they just beat us to the punchline.
- gotamd, on 07/01/2009, -0/+5It's too bad that their scholars are ignored when it comes to drug policy (look up a book called "Drug War Heresies"). I guess they don't control America afterall.
- dpazar2, on 07/01/2009, -0/+4The Consultants never get the credit, just remember that.
- smity9384, on 07/01/2009, -0/+4Looks like a fun place to work.
- falser, on 07/01/2009, -1/+5They were wrong about Iraq. Just saying...
- FredFredrickson, on 07/01/2009, -0/+4Purposeless is the best word to describe these scenarios, and it's usually the best way to test to see if the conspiracy is even plausible at all.
Most of the time, they aren't. - smashTasker, on 07/01/2009, -0/+4They must have made some smart decisions to keep a firm grasp on 80% of England's economy for almost two centuries!
- smashTasker, on 07/01/2009, -0/+3Damn that sucks! When did they buy the US?
- jurassiqpark, on 07/01/2009, -0/+3..planned the first orbiting space station.
see article above^^ - jman583, on 07/01/2009, -1/+4THE GOVERNMENT HAD A SUPER RESEARCH GROUP! THIS IS BREAKING NEWS!!!!
- richmomz, on 07/01/2009, -23/+26Also read up about the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group if you want to know who really pulls the strings in this country - just about every major presidential administration member in the last several decades (at least) has either been a member of, or had close connections to, at least one of those groups.
Or better yet visit some of their websites:
http://www.cfr.org/
http://www.trilateral.org/ (as a special bonus to any Christians out there, take a close look at Tricomm's official logo and see if that doesn't creep you out) - LouisCipher777, on 07/01/2009, -3/+5the Rothschild family actually owns about 80% of the English economy.
when Napoleon lost at Waterloo a rider for the head of the Rothschild family got back to London 2 days before anyone else. the family let out that Napoleon won, so the London stock exchange crashed and they bought most of the economy for pennies on the dollar. when the real news of Napoleon losing made it back the stock market came back up, securing the Rothschild family as the owners of the English economy. - TheShad0w, on 07/01/2009, -0/+2Yes, but its also another point. Think Tanks are great when you need to see a new point of view to a problem but they have their failings. They aren't infallible. Taking their input into consideration and then making an informed decision is one thing. Depending on these people to come up with the solution is totally different. The blurb about Kenneth Arrow is a prime example. Yes self preservation and gain is good to an economy but it has its limits.
My point is that just because these people are incredibly intelligent doesn't make them perfect. Besides a study of 5,000 people is large but its hardly a valid representation of the whole country. Where the upbringing, social culturing, and environment is vastly different from location to location. - skit4king, on 07/01/2009, -0/+2Please give us time travel and teleportation, got used to the undo button and it takes effort to walk back and forth for coffee!
- inactive, on 07/01/2009, -7/+9Yep, the CFR is there to sell wars to the people and other really horrible ideas. The CFR is just the propaganda and persuasion unit of the Rothschilds'. Trilateral is also just another division to distract the populous away from them.
- Alias1431, on 07/01/2009, -1/+3Mein Führer! I can walk!
- cfuse, on 07/02/2009, -0/+2You know what Americans are like, why let facts get in the way of fantasizing that you did everything first?
- fmaxwell, on 07/03/2009, -0/+2I agree completely.
I am amazed at the stupidity of people who claim that it's so suspicious that most people in politics at the national level would be members of a think tank like the CFR. It's like being surprised the the majority of tournament-level chess players in the U.S. are members of the U.S. Chess Federation, or thinking that there's something diabolical going on when they learn that the majority of our professional motorcycle racers are members of the American Motorcycle Association.
Frankly, I don't believe that anyone is so stupid as to actually think that the CFR, the Bildergers, or the Trilateral Commission is secretly controlling our government, our elections, our economy, and our foreign policy.
The vast majority of the unreasoning hatred of these organizations stems from anti-Semites who think that Jews (or Zionists) are trying to rule the world. It's pretty obvious when people making the outlandish claims cannot produce a shard of evidence of world domination by these groups other than the fact that they have many prominent members and that other nuts also make the same claims. - CivicTV, on 08/14/2009, -0/+2This is Colonel Leslie "Hap" Hapablap. If you don't open that door I'll tear you up like a Kleenex at a snot party!
Its Henry "Hap" Arnold though . . . but I thought the same thing as well. - inactive, on 07/01/2009, -0/+2HA HA HA - Good stuff.
- tech42er, on 07/02/2009, -1/+3http://www.cracked.com/article_17469_5-pathetic-gr ...
- Apokalyps2547, on 07/02/2009, -0/+2If you are hypothesizing that a limited number of influential people are engaged on organized clandestine activities then YES it is the very definition of a conspiracy theory.
Anyway if 'slaying Israel's enemies' were the agenda it would have been Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Egypt and Jordan LONG before Iraq. - tech42er, on 07/02/2009, -0/+2Nothing they said about RAND implies it's any kind of conspiracy. Everyone knows that RAND is a major think tank, employing some of the best minds in the world, and they have tons of government contracts.
- WunderTroll, on 07/01/2009, -2/+4Yeah seriously everyone knows that the internet came from Al Gore
- vbullinger, on 07/01/2009, -1/+3I think it was just one day, not two. Otherwise, you're absolutely correct. Just wanted to make sure no one nitpicked you while attacking. I'm nitpicking while affirming.
- fmaxwell, on 07/01/2009, -3/+5@vbullinger
"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England... (and) ...believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years, and was permitted in the early 1960's to examine its papers and secret records. … I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known."
So do you conspiracy theorists masturbate when you see phrases like "secret papers"?
"Feel free to stick your head back in the sand, but I suggest you raise it up and do a little snooping around to see that richmomz is 100% on the ball here."
I'm counting on it, but I know what's really going on -- I'm on the inside. Our one-world government will be glorious. First, we plan to confiscate your guns so you are powerless to resist us. Then we will indoctrinate your children into our views using public schools, turning them against you. The will inform us as to who is rabble-rousing -- parents, brothers, sisters, grandparents -- none will be safe. Once we have our single currency (the EU is just our experiment to work out the kinks), we can start socializing all production of goods and services. Richer countries will have their assets seized to help poorer ones. You are indeed lucky to live in such enlightened times! - Stormwern, on 07/01/2009, -1/+3Think tanks who think and science advisors who are concerned with science are both very very helpful to a modern society, the problem is all the ideologs and lobby groups pretending to be.
- worseforwine, on 07/01/2009, -1/+2I think people who believe conspiracy theories are idiots too, but the RAND Corp is neither a conspiracy nor a theory. They are slightly "shadowy" since they are private, but they are just one of many think tanks in the world. Anyone who is against this type of organization is just afraid of intellectualism and science.
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