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Sex Change Therapy Offered to Children
mywisegeneration.blogspot.com — With the mass confusion caused by the "sexual discovery" movement a recent story revealed sex change therapy as an option to children as young as ten years old. When individuals perceive they are not designed uniquely as God has created them, they begin to believe change is necessary in who or what they are, or in this case, who or what their...
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- exgop, on 04/24/2008, -7/+11This is just sick
- Look4Truth, on 04/24/2008, -9/+12This is satan's playground, it's only going to get worse.
- michael43, on 04/24/2008, -7/+7I wish I could disagree with you, but in truth, I believe you are 100% correct. It's going to get lots worse. Evil is alive and thriving in our society.
- mikesbaker, on 04/24/2008, -5/+12i don't know which is worse - parents who would support this or doctors who would perform the procedures
- Antarcticn, on 04/24/2008, -2/+1Do you mean "butchers" instead of "doctors"? Such butchers would do anything for money.
- drachemorder, on 04/24/2008, -6/+13There was an article on Digg about this a few days ago. Only the title didn't mention the sex-change stuff; it just mentioned hormone treatments to delay puberty. It took me a while to figure out why that was so abominable, because I've read quite a few articles lately about kids hitting puberty too early and thought that it was another one of those. There wouldn't be anything shocking or abominable about applying treatment to delay puberty until its proper time. But this, what they're actually using it for, is way beyond the pale.
I'm not sure what the proper approach to dealing with someone who has gender issues is, but I'm pretty positive that mutilation ain't it. It's a mental problem more than a physical one. And I think there are some cultural aspects too --- do you HAVE to like football and NASCAR and G.I.Joe and dead stuffed animals and steak and Chuck Norris movies to be masculine? Do you HAVE to like dolls and dresses and flowers and babies and romantic movies and ballet dancing and salads to be feminine? True masculinity and true femininity are much more profound than mere cultural stereotypes like that, and I think some confusion comes from expecting everyone to fit neatly into those stereotypes. I wonder how many people are labelled "gender-confused" (or even come to think of themselves that way, making the problem worse) merely because they don't quite fit the mold, not because they actually have something physically or psychologically wrong with them. - buddamus, on 04/24/2008, -17/+5Where in the bible does it say that someone can't change there sex?
- Neticule, on 04/24/2008, -12/+6somewhere in the front... yeah thats it, the front.
- bohemianowl, on 04/24/2008, -6/+8they put hormones in our food and then want to fix it by messing with our heads? this is all NWO B.S.
- michael43, on 04/24/2008, -8/+6I think it's beyond sick, I think it's inherently evil. Reading this article literally made me "shudder" when I think of how low our society has sank.
- hope4god, on 04/24/2008, -9/+6My best thought is that the Gay agenda which is to get to our kids early and get them to accept Homosexual acts, is behind this somewhere. Again kids at a certain age hit puberty or a change in their life we need not to change or alter this, encourage the child of the sex to be the character of the sex they are. Boy to be a man, girl to the a woman. If some people knew what the Gay agenda was you would horrified. Its your kids they want and they will use the media, schools, music , books to get to your kids.
- alkajazz, on 04/24/2008, -3/+12Did you guys even read what these people treat? They mostly deal with children with kids who are not quite male or female. I highly doubt there is a "Homosexual" agenda.
"Intersexuality is the state of a living thing of a gonochoristic species whose sex chromosomes, genitalia and/or secondary sex characteristics are determined to be neither exclusively male nor female. An organism with intersex may have biological characteristics of both the male and female sexes"
"An epispadias is a rare type of malformation of the penis in which the urethra ends in an opening on the upper aspect (the dorsum) of the penis. An epispadias is an uncommon and partial form of a spectrum of failures of abdominal and pelvic fusion in the first months of embryogenesis. Most cases involve more severe defects, including a small and bifid phallus with bladder exstrophy or even cloacal exstrophy involving the entire perineum."
"Klinefelter's syndrome, 47, XXY or XXY syndrome is a condition caused by a chromosome aneuploidy. Affected males have an extra ***** X sex chromosome. The principal effects are development of small testicles and reduced fertility. A variety of other physical and behavioral ***** differences and problems are common, though severity varies and many boys and men with the condition have few detectable symptoms. The second most common extra chromosome condition, it is named after Dr. Harry Klinefelter, an endocrinologist at Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, Massachusetts, who first described it in 1942.[1] The condition exists in roughly 1 out of every 500 males.[2] Because of the extra chromosome, individuals with the condition are usually referred to as "XXY Males", or "47, XXY Males".[3]"
Do you see a homosexual agenda? I sure don't, I see a chance for trans gender children to grow up and live a normal life. This is the lowest you've stooped Craig. Trying to spin your "Religious Agenda" around something that could be very beneficial to a child's life.- hope4god, on 04/24/2008, -5/+4I have a friend who is more girl like then male like he is married and has 2 kids, I have known this guy for 25 years and I understand what your saying it seems he is more girl then guy. I like to think that the DNA or some kind of bioligical reason people are born more of a sex then they appear to be like a boy who acts like a girl, etc. Its a tough call and I get what your saying point well taken. Have a good day
- iucraigmc, on 04/24/2008, -8/+2From the article:
"The Gender Management Service Clinic, as it is called, defines that group as "patients with no known anatomic or biochemical disorder who feel like a member of the opposite sex.""
The article discusses their specific treatment of those who qualify as transgendered, not those who suffer from anatomic or biochemical disorder - you have misrepresented both me and the argument in an attempt to use a character based attack as a defense. Also known as an ad hominem argument: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
The article also doesn't target the "homosexual agenda" but the idea of the "sexual discovery" movement which consists of far more than sexual-orientation. It covers a broader range between using "pornography" to discover "true sexual desires" to the desire for "transgenderism" all the way to "sexual-orientation" and many more topics. It is the movement that encompasses and encourages the self-exploration of something beyond normal sexuality through experimentation and participation. - alkajazz, on 04/24/2008, -1/+6The "Homosexual Agenda" was directed to other posters in the comment thread. Scientifically what is "Natural Sexuality"?
- lydecker, on 04/24/2008, -2/+6I assume when people refer to "natural sexuality" in such a way, it is their attempt to mean "sexuality that serves a specific purpose" and no other real. As in, being sexually attracted to anyone who can bear a child with you... without anything else involving kink, foreplay, or non-reproductive sexual activity.
It's not scientific, though, because it doesn't mean what natural really means, which is "existing in or formed by nature," which is everything we see that occurs on it's own.
- lydecker, on 04/24/2008, -2/+6I assume when people refer to "natural sexuality" in such a way, it is their attempt to mean "sexuality that serves a specific purpose" and no other real. As in, being sexually attracted to anyone who can bear a child with you... without anything else involving kink, foreplay, or non-reproductive sexual activity.
- eir574, on 04/24/2008, -1/+10From Criag's blog post:
"As we all know, however, feelings can be truly deceptive. If an individual finds another person so irritating that they feel they should hit them, it obviously doesn't mean pounding another individual is the right thing to do."
Nice trivialization of a difficult issue, Craig. Regardless of what you think of how parents are handling these difficult situations, you could have shown a little more respect for what they parents and their children are going through. See, for instance, the story linked to by the clinic: http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3072518&page=1 . You may disagree with the parents' decision, but please don't trivialize the issues here. Whatever the cause of the gender confusion described in that article is, the conflicting feelings generated by it are not quite the same thing as feeling conflicted because you want to hit an irritating person and know that it's wrong.- alkajazz, on 04/24/2008, -1/+7Well Said! I think this is challenging traditional "Christian" sexuality. We're definitely learning that human sexuality is more complex than we ever thought. I think this is the real issue here.
- Antarcticn, on 04/24/2008, -8/+1Maybe I'm too old-fashioned. But, when I was young, you were born with certain equipment that determined your anatomic function. Especailly regarding biological reproduction. If there was gender confusiion, I never saw any. Nobody I knew had a gender identity crisis. Nobody awoke today saying, "I feel like a girl today, even though I was a boy yesterday." Or vice-versa.
Were there girly young men? Yeah. Were there manly young women? Yeah. Were there ultra-feminine girls, and very-masculine boys? Of course — with the whole gamut in the middle.
In the Holy Bible, Jacob stayed in and near Rachel's tent while Esau preferred being outdoors and smelling gamey; the "he man" male and less-manly younger brother. But, nobody in taxpayer-funded, godvernment mis-run publik skools was brainwashing Jacob into gender confusion, an identity crisis and sex-change operation. Live is less complex for folks like me who see no good sense in splitting hairs that don't need split. Time to muzzle peddlers of confusion; especially when they attack and mutate malleable, impressionable, innocent minds of single-digit age.- eir574, on 04/24/2008, -0/+8"If there was gender confusiion, I never saw any. Nobody I knew had a gender identity crisis."
Just because you didn't see it, that doesn't mean it didn't exist.
"Nobody awoke today saying, "I feel like a girl today, even though I was a boy yesterday." Or vice-versa."
I don't think anyone's suggesting that there are people who feel like a boy one day and then suddenly wake up the next day feeling like a boy, only to go back to feeling like a girl a couple of days later. However, there are people who have felt like a member of the opposite gender for a long time, and while they may go through periods of denial and periods of acceptance, the underlying feelings aren't swinging back and forth between two extremes on a day to day basis. At least, if people like that do exist, that's not what the article is addressing.
I bet there are plenty of people who find themselves in that situation who wish their lives could be as uncomplicated as yours. Sadly for them, the situation is not quite as trivial as you make it out to be.- hope4god, on 04/25/2008, -6/+0574, I understand what your saying a Gay person has a terrible self look about themselves they dont wish to be Gay, its not normal.I feel bad for anyone to have to walk in their shoes its not a great life and no matter how much the Gay Community tries to bend the law or break the spirit of people who are both believers in God and good morals or not you cant make people threathen people with HATE Speech which is code for Shut up or face attacks, when they have morals and standards. Every time i have seen a Gay group on tv they are angry, hateful and want to shut down peoples right to raise their children in a Man and Women society. Studies have been done by both Gay and Straight groups that clearly state a child any child truly benefits from a Man/DAD and Women/MOM relationship. Gays want to get married dont let them have all the benefits of Married Men and Women and certainly no adoptions of any kind to same sex couples period. Its about the children its not about someones Sexual choices.
- eir574, on 04/25/2008, -0/+2"a Gay person has a terrible self look about themselves they dont wish to be Gay, its not normal"
You're not speaking for every gay person. I've certainly known some who don't feel that way. - lydecker, on 04/25/2008, -0/+2Yes, it is unfortunate that gay people go through a phase where they have a terrible self outlook because of heterocentrism and homophobia in society... Most are able to cope with this, accept themselves, and then come out of the closet, and live a normal productive life.
You clearly do not understand a gay groups objective, when you say they want to "Shut down people's right to raise their children in a Man and Woman society..." Most people realize that a man an woman society isn't reality, and they are for shutting down people who would force everything that doesn't fit Man and Woman.
Gay is not a sexual choice. And it is about the children, and there are many children out there who need adoption and can be raised much better and into great people by any loving parent or parents.
- eir574, on 04/25/2008, -0/+2"a Gay person has a terrible self look about themselves they dont wish to be Gay, its not normal"
- hope4god, on 04/25/2008, -6/+0574, I understand what your saying a Gay person has a terrible self look about themselves they dont wish to be Gay, its not normal.I feel bad for anyone to have to walk in their shoes its not a great life and no matter how much the Gay Community tries to bend the law or break the spirit of people who are both believers in God and good morals or not you cant make people threathen people with HATE Speech which is code for Shut up or face attacks, when they have morals and standards. Every time i have seen a Gay group on tv they are angry, hateful and want to shut down peoples right to raise their children in a Man and Women society. Studies have been done by both Gay and Straight groups that clearly state a child any child truly benefits from a Man/DAD and Women/MOM relationship. Gays want to get married dont let them have all the benefits of Married Men and Women and certainly no adoptions of any kind to same sex couples period. Its about the children its not about someones Sexual choices.
- eir574, on 04/24/2008, -0/+8"If there was gender confusiion, I never saw any. Nobody I knew had a gender identity crisis."
- hope4god, on 04/25/2008, -7/+0Dont get me wrong do I think some people are born with both sex genes if you will yes they have, I believe at a certain point in life you go to one gene or another. I dont see how God could or would allow someone to be born Gay as the Gay Agenda people would have you believe it. It comes down to a choice of a sexual behavior even former Gay people have said that, if you are saying that Gay people had no choice then the arguement could be compared to Serial Killers, Rapists, Molesters. Wouldnt they say they were born that way? Birth defects visable and non visable is not of God for God is perfect so as the bible would say to those who are born with a mental disability their soul is with Christ and Amen to that. I dont condone hate or anger towards people who choose a lifestyle that is perverse, but morally when you mess with Science in the name of making a Gay statement that is normal then its wrong. I hope that people can see that kids need role models and sports to fit their gender. I get sick of hearing ACLU suing a school for not letting a Gay guy become Prom Queen, or sports cant be played anymore because Girls cant play football like the guys can. School bathrooms cant be boys and girls and you cant voice God anywhere but you can have a Gay/Straight class but not a church club unless all faiths can join it.
- lydecker, on 04/25/2008, -0/+4Could it be compared to serial killers, rapists, molesters? Do we have a body of scientific evidence that shows killing, raping, and molesting is not a choice? It's not just that homosexual oriented people "say" they were this way out of no choice, it's evidence that shows they have no choice.
I get sick of the thought that people don't deserve to be treated equally.- hope4god, on 04/25/2008, -1/+0Lydecker, then what your saying is that people who are ''BORN GAY'' are in danger of losing their soul because God didnt attend for a Man to marry another Man, etc etc and what about the people who divulge into same sex relationships out of pure lust where do they fall into your Scienctific theorys? as far as Equal rights again why should women be lesser in the fact that they go through Pregancys, periods, and female parts of life and a Gay man pretending to be a woman.
- lydecker, on 04/25/2008, -0/+3"[Gays] are in danger of losing their soul because God didn't [intend] for a man to marry another man." If God didn't intend for a man to marry a man, nor a man to marry a girl, then don't get a religious marriage if you feel it will make you lose your soul. There's many marriages out there that God didn't intend for, but in my understanding you don't risk losing your soul because yours is not an ideal marriage to God.
"What about the people who divulge in same sex relationships out of pure lust?" Lets expand, shall we? What about people who indulge in any gender relationships based on pure lust? They desire sex, and they like it, and they don't have repulsions to the people they get with, so they take it where they can. Based on pure lust, a mouth is a mouth, and you have to work a lot less hard for a prostitute than someone you actually like.
I can't understand your last sentence, could you rephrase that? I don't think women should be treated with less than equal rights, for any reason, much less because they experience pregnancy and periods. I don't think anyone should be treated with less than equal rights.
- lydecker, on 04/25/2008, -0/+3"[Gays] are in danger of losing their soul because God didn't [intend] for a man to marry another man." If God didn't intend for a man to marry a man, nor a man to marry a girl, then don't get a religious marriage if you feel it will make you lose your soul. There's many marriages out there that God didn't intend for, but in my understanding you don't risk losing your soul because yours is not an ideal marriage to God.
- hope4god, on 04/25/2008, -1/+0Lydecker, then what your saying is that people who are ''BORN GAY'' are in danger of losing their soul because God didnt attend for a Man to marry another Man, etc etc and what about the people who divulge into same sex relationships out of pure lust where do they fall into your Scienctific theorys? as far as Equal rights again why should women be lesser in the fact that they go through Pregancys, periods, and female parts of life and a Gay man pretending to be a woman.
- alkajazz, on 04/28/2008, -0/+2"Dont get me wrong do I think some people are born with both sex genes if you will yes they have, I believe at a certain point in life you go to one gene or another." I think you're confusing sexual desires and gender.
- lydecker, on 04/25/2008, -0/+4Could it be compared to serial killers, rapists, molesters? Do we have a body of scientific evidence that shows killing, raping, and molesting is not a choice? It's not just that homosexual oriented people "say" they were this way out of no choice, it's evidence that shows they have no choice.
- hope4god, on 04/25/2008, -2/+0Buddamus where in the bible does it say you can change your sex? I believe the bible does talk about self mutilation, which some pastors have said we are not to have any piercing, girls shouldnt have ear rings, and guys no tattoos. If God wanted you to be a boy then thats it, I dont feel we should second guess God.
- alkajazz, on 04/25/2008, -0/+6"I believe the bible does talk about self mutilation" Circumcision?
- lydecker, on 04/25/2008, -0/+4Naw, that's people mutilating others. The Bible's for that.
- hope4god, on 04/26/2008, -6/+2Lydecker again you can make a God any way you want to, but if you follow the one true God and see what is written about perverse and unnatural ways, then you couldnt come to a conclusion that God allows Gay people to marry. Adam and Eve were created by God,the family consists of a Man and Woman and children dont get so upset that people have some morals and want to see a healthy happy family unit.
- lydecker, on 04/27/2008, -1/+6And you can make a God any way you want to... and everyone is doing a very good job of selecting what to believe and what not to believe when they shove the Bible at people and call what they say "Truth."
I'm not upset that ALL people have morals, and that all people have a subjective morality, and that all people believe they know what can best raise a child. But the fact is, there are many many ways about marriage, about children, about family...
You also couldn't come to a conclusion that god allows infertile people to marry- flip2trip, on 04/28/2008, -3/+2'You also couldn't come to a conclusion that god allows infertile people to marry"
No where in the Bible does it say the ONLY purpose for marriage is to procreate. In regards to your 'subjective morality' comment--I would simply ask, who's subjectivity do we refer to when trying to decide between right and wrong? This is why Christians refer to the Bible when addressing these issues. Referring to subjective or relative morality will never lead to being truly happy and content. I know that because God's laws are set up to protect people from themselves.- lydecker, on 04/28/2008, -1/+3No where in the Bible does it say the ONLY purpose for marriage is to join a male and a female.
"Who's subjectivity do we refer to when trying to decide between right and wrong?" An individual is only capable of looking to their own subjectivity; I am physically incapable of referring to your subjective view when trying to decide what's right and wrong because it's YOUR view. BUT everyone's individual subjective morality is a subjective interpretation of many things, including some attempts at objective forms of morality, be they a religious denomination's doctrine or a legal system.
This is why society refers to an objective Law when addressing these issues. Referring to one's subjective or relative morality to decide what is right for a society will never lead to being truly happy and content. I know this because the Law is set up to protect people's freedoms and protect them from others.
- lydecker, on 04/28/2008, -1/+3No where in the Bible does it say the ONLY purpose for marriage is to join a male and a female.
- hope4god, on 04/30/2008, -1/+0Lydecker, if God wanted a man to marry a man then God would have said it. The bible does talk about Marriage a Man and a Woman, you are sadly mislead for YOUR agenda to mislead others that a Gay person should have all benefits of a Marriage created by God not your God but OUR GOD, and like I said before you can make it anyway you want but the truth is God doesnt condone Gay peoples actions, Lust, and the break up of the family which is Man and Woman and Children.
- flip2trip, on 04/28/2008, -3/+2'You also couldn't come to a conclusion that god allows infertile people to marry"
- lydecker, on 04/27/2008, -1/+6And you can make a God any way you want to... and everyone is doing a very good job of selecting what to believe and what not to believe when they shove the Bible at people and call what they say "Truth."
- Tugging, on 04/26/2008, -5/+1This kind of thing happens when human beings, created by our Maker, insists on
living as if He does not exist. They need to be warned, prayed for, and told the
truth. After that, the outcome depends on what they do with what they've learned. - hope4god, on 04/30/2008, -1/+0To those of you that think Gay people are happy in their life sorry just not fully true they live a life of a lie, they hide their sexuality and when they are outed they are embarassed, Gay guys who marry a woman to cover up their past or still live in the past are embarassed when they are outed. I have seen only a few Gay people that are boldly proud of their ways much of the rest are not. Its a shameful life a sad life no children not being a grandpa, grandma, and its sad do you think adopting a child to make you feel like a parent under the mask of being Gay is right? its a lie......People man and woman who cant get pregnnant then I can see why they would adopt
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