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- Janinco, on 11/07/2009, -4/+43FTA
"The $1 billion warship was built near New Orleans by workers who survived Hurricane Katrina."
It is great to see this ship ready to set sail! - gbudavid, on 11/07/2009, -7/+41GO NAVY
- MWeather, on 11/07/2009, -5/+30We haven't used the military for defense in decades.
- Krakerjax, on 11/07/2009, -8/+33In the interest of poking fun at conspiracy theorists;
Oh lawds, all the evidence is bein destroyed! - Crimeodial, on 11/07/2009, -4/+24You know...people who disagree with the wars aren't "pro-terrorist" it's a pretty stupid thing to imply that they are.
- pwarnock, on 11/07/2009, -1/+18Made from recycled steel to boot.
- Zaxcomp, on 11/07/2009, -28/+43Nobody else is troubled we made a WARship out of the remains of WTC? What a brilliant way to improve our image around the globe.
- DrummerDudeXT, on 11/07/2009, -10/+23whats wrong with that?
- ThePerkins, on 11/07/2009, -5/+17Who are you to sit in your computer chair advocating the killing of other people? You sound pretty evil, ignorant, and intolerant yourself.
- theonlywizdum, on 11/07/2009, -0/+11Did you happen to look at the specs on the ship? It's primarily for transporting goods and supplies to to other countries. It has a few, light, defensive weapons and thats about it. I can kind of see a reason to complain if they used the WTC steel to make a Howitzer or something, but not this.
- CptBuck, on 11/07/2009, -2/+12I just hope when it goes out of service they either recycle the steel or memorialize the ship at sea like the Arizona. Or else make it a floating museum/memorial like the U.S.S. constitution.
In any event, I'm glad they did it. - chezidom, on 11/07/2009, -2/+12Or how about two baseball fields, this warship, and countless of other construction projects in NYC, however, no WTC reconstruction?
- theonlywizdum, on 11/07/2009, -1/+10more like:
IT'S BACK
AND THIS TIME
IT'S DELIVERING FOOD TO CHILDREN IN AFRICA - Lordy1952, on 11/07/2009, -4/+12I think its more how you use it
- factsahoy, on 11/07/2009, -4/+12Building a ship = imperialist?
What a retard. - gl77, on 11/07/2009, -4/+11aren't you afraid your computer will get wet in the kitchen?
- Aroundtown27, on 11/07/2009, -0/+7Most steel is recycled.
- CptBuck, on 11/07/2009, -0/+7Military ship building isn't particularly profitable, or haven't you noticed that America has only a handful of naval shipyards compared with dozens historically? Same with armories.
- bigwrestlerguy, on 11/08/2009, -0/+5OMG, Does everything have to be a friggin' moral and ethical battle between liberals and conservatives, religious and non-religious, catholic and muslim, etc etc etc on digg?
It's a vessel. YES, it is an amphibious assault. YES, we have quite a few of those. YES, the US gov't spends 300 million a year bringing surplus grain to Africa via many different US ships. Whether you are offended or not about the metal being used in this manner, does everyone have to present the issue as one of monumental importance.
Does everyone have to be so polarized all the time? - factsahoy, on 11/07/2009, -2/+7Yeah, but don't be too taken in by the feel-good PR. There were only a few tons of steel from the WTC used, and "built by workers who survived Katrina" could refer two people. In fact, given that the shipyard is near New Orleans, it would be more surprising if none of the workers hadn't been through Katrina.
It's nice symbolism and nothing more. - cawpin, on 11/07/2009, -0/+4You! Out of the gene pool!
- Johntotherescue, on 11/07/2009, -0/+4so because of our military bases it's ok to attack civillians? the people that did this deserve anything we can throw at them.
- monodelasno, on 11/07/2009, -7/+11Not really.
- seanmc303, on 11/07/2009, -0/+4FTA: "Navy amphibious assault ship"
- energyx, on 11/07/2009, -0/+4stood against terrorism? what a crock. it stood for gobs of money collected through mercantile exchange.
- Johntotherescue, on 11/07/2009, -5/+8you are whats wrong with america.
- strangequark21, on 11/08/2009, -0/+3The initial contract is set for the dry dock period. In my ships case, we are talking a 50 million dollar contract for the repairs requested. The initial bid is severely undercut to compete with other contractors. From what I can tell, that chunk covers "as is" expenses, such as wages, materials, equipment, etc etc. However, the DoD offers a "bonus" a 1-5 percent of the original contract if certain conditions are met. That is their profit, but I'm telling you, they fight for it. Anytime I catch a contractor ***** off, or screwing up a government checkpoint, I fill out a form that gets filed and penalizes the contractor by taking a little bit out of the bonus pot.
They can screw us back at the end though by finding something ridiculously expensive to fix at the end of the dry dock period and screw us up the ass with up to 5 times the cost of the job to finish it within the window. Part of my job is to make sure they don't pull any fast ones on us.
No I haven't compared with other industries, but these contractors running the show have 30 years under their belt and have seen the shipbuilding industry in San Diego change over that period of time. Most contractors can't afford shipbuilding contracts because of all the undercutting. The Navy doesn't see most of the money in the DoD's budget, so we don't have the luxury of getting contracts with profit mongers like blackwater.
Yes, this is a PR stunt. But the ship is still going to provide more billets for more Americans to feed and support their families. This ship is probably going to be the humanitarian face for the Navy. We could use some good karma for our military force. Also, Navy shipbuilding is one industry in America that refuses to go overseas. I'd much rather spend a billion dollars on a ship built by Americans then crooks on wall street. - Husvik, on 11/07/2009, -1/+4Yvan eht nioj!
- Johntotherescue, on 11/07/2009, -0/+3have you been to ground zero? they are building on the site. it makes it hard though because all the buildings that were reconstructed around it can't fill their offices with business. nobody wants anything to do with the area.
- theonlywizdum, on 11/07/2009, -1/+4It's a transport ship. Since we aren't currently at war with any countries that have a Navy, it wont really see any combat (not that it would be wise to send a ship that does not have any cannons into combat anyway).
- seanmc303, on 11/07/2009, -1/+4@p51d007, well for your sake, I hope our new battleship does a whole bunch of killing up in the mountains of Afghanistan. Maybe they can equip the ship with some nice off-road tires.
- gbudavid, on 11/08/2009, -0/+3Thank Him for his Service
- juliusthecat, on 11/07/2009, -0/+2"We can't use ships in the desert." - Ships are how you get the howitzers, tanks, bullets, etc to the middle of the desert.
- Janinco, on 11/07/2009, -1/+3Wrong. It was commissioned today.
- seanmc303, on 11/08/2009, -0/+2@sodade, who murdered 3,000? People we can attack with a big boat? Most of the hijackers were Saudi Arabians. Are we going to attack Saudi Arabia with our big new boat? Saudi Arabia does have a shore so at least that's a plus; however, Afghanistan not so much beach front property.
"How many innocent iraqis did we kill for NOTHING?" I'm pretty sure the exact number is pretty close to a ***** load (a number WAY bigger than 3000). How does building a big boat good for killing people justify their deaths? - velveetaavenger, on 11/08/2009, -0/+2I don't understand down-diggers, are you claiming that the World Trade Center still stands? I like a lot of conspiracy theories, but that just sounds stupid.
- TobiasParker, on 11/07/2009, -1/+3I don't really like ron paul. Being against intervention doesn't mean being for Isolationism. The united states is not the worlds police, you have to let countries solve their own problems.
"But the taliban and al qaeda don't exist because of the US"
From this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#Origin
"some basis for military support of the Taliban was provided when, in the early 1980s, the CIA and the ISI (Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency) provided arms to Afghans resisting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the ISI assisted the process of gathering radical Muslims from around the world to fight against the Soviets. Osama Bin Laden was one of the key players in organizing training camps for the foreign Muslim volunteers. The U.S. poured funds and arms into Afghanistan, and "by 1987, 65,000 tons of U.S.-made weapons and ammunition a year were entering the war."[19] FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, who has been fired from the agency for disclosing sensitive information, has claimed United States was on intimate terms with Taliban and Al-Qaeda, using them to further certain goals in Central Asia"
So you see the United States was very instrumental in the creation of Al Qaeda and the arming/legitimizing the Taliban.
"they would have been killing people anyway, some of which would be americans, many of which would be jews, and the rest of which would be random people, europeans and arabs. But hey, we're happy throwing them under the bus, right?"
So canada should have invade the United States during the race riots in L.A., I mean we obviously cannot control our own people so a foreign country better step in. People are going to kill people for all kinds of stupid reasons and no amount of intervention will save that. Like the afghan people i would rather be free than secure.
"Our allies in will fall or be forced to ally with Russia or China and boy will letting the talibans overrun the middle eastern oil countries ever bite us in the ass later, but the US should just go home. Right?"
I don't really understand your point. When did the taliban "overrun" any middle eastern countries and how did it bite us in the ass? Do you mean 9/11, well terrorists wouldn't want to bite us in the ass if we weren't building bases in their countries. We drive people to the 'protection' of Russia and China through our aggressive international policy. Believe it or not 3rd world countries don't want to be under the influence of the United States, or China, or Russia.
There is nothing to win in afghanistan, what is our goal? Al Qaeda is long gone out of Afghanistan and into Pakistan. We cannot invade every country in the middle east. - rrwest, on 11/08/2009, -0/+2Never forget what happened, who did it or why they did it.
Never forget who cheered, either.
Above all, never forget those who lost their lives, especially the firefighters, police officers, rescue crews (still dying) and civilians, men, women and children. None of them deserved it. - DrNemo, on 11/07/2009, -0/+2It will fight for our friedoms.
- strangequark21, on 11/07/2009, -0/+2Shipbuilding is notoriously expensive. I'm in Navy and my ship is in the yards at the moment for major repairs, and I get to play with the contractors all day. The numbers are outrageous and profit margins are slim. These guys have to fight for every penny we give them....
- charlietuna, on 11/07/2009, -1/+3I'm not troubled by the presence of a robust military. I am troubled by the sheer size of it and the fact that we can subsidize defense contractors but we cannot protect non-military industries which are of strategic *economic* importance. Supporting peaceful industries would be socialist.
- TobiasParker, on 11/07/2009, -0/+2"Observe good faith and justice towards all Nations; cultivate peace and harmony with all. Religion and Morality enjoin this conduct; and can it be, that good policy does not equally enjoin it? It will be worthy of a free, enlightened, and, at no distant period, a great Nation, to give to mankind the magnanimous and too novel example of a people always guided by an exalted justice and benevolence. Who can doubt, that, in the course of time and things, the fruits of such a plan would richly repay any temporary advantages, which might be lost by a steady adherence to it ? Can it be, that Providence has not connected the permanent felicity of a Nation with its Virtue? The experiment, at least, is recommended by every sentiment which ennobles human nature. Alas! is it rendered impossible by its vices ?
In the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential, than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular Nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The Nation, which indulges towards another an habitual hatred, or an habitual fondness, is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable, when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. Hence frequent collisions, obstinate, envenomed, and bloody contests. The Nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the Government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The Government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times, it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of Nations has been the victim."
-George Washington
tl;dr: You have no ***** clue about America. - toxicityj, on 11/07/2009, -1/+3Thanks for ***** on the parade.
- velveetaavenger, on 11/07/2009, -2/+4I think that metal crumpled and fell after just an hour or so.
- factsahoy, on 11/07/2009, -1/+3It was all over the mainstream media at least a week ago.
- Azdak, on 11/07/2009, -0/+2One Billions dollars well spent, I say. Just what we need to keep all of those hostile armadas I keep hearing so much about from threatening our right to eat at McDonalds.
- Culyt, on 11/07/2009, -4/+6"Thousands of people died, lets build a killing machine!" Great symbolism.
- charlietuna, on 11/07/2009, -2/+4Yep, this is pure feel good spin.
- Charun, on 11/07/2009, -0/+2Janico is right.
I sailed into NY harbor on monday.
It was commissioned today. - Janinco, on 11/08/2009, -0/+1I will never forget.
Thanks for your post. -
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