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- peregrine, on 05/21/2008, -27/+529Wow lets just forget the Internet, youtube, wikipedia, digg, reddit, whatever. Come on this article is simply playing to the frustrated X'ers who are stuck in the shadow of the Boomers.
- Dumbledorito, on 05/21/2008, -9/+384And all their music is noise! And they dress funny! And they don't have any respect for their elders!
Now get off my lawn! - AManWithNoName, on 05/21/2008, -28/+235Buried as inaccurate. The entire internet culture as it is today is based on Gen-Yers: from 4chan to Digg, we own the internet, and that's a whole lot of culture (Good and bad). Sure, we don't have a definitive movie, or music style (Yet) but we've already revolutionized culture in other ways.
Give it time, we'll have our own music styles and movies before you know it. - DiggLive, on 05/21/2008, -7/+188Let the scapegoating commence.
- blackjack75, on 05/21/2008, -2/+158So.. just so we don't panic when the time comes. I can see the next genertion will be generation Z but what then?
I think the guy who came up with the generations naming-scheme wasn't very forward-looking. - ThePenrod, on 05/21/2008, -7/+156In my day I walked 8 miles in the snow to watch 90210 and listen to Vanilla Ice. Wow, those were some great contributions to culture! Hooray, Gen X!
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -78/+223This article is total *****.
If you are looking to traditional pop culture for information about MY generation you are looking in the wrong place. We are not part of your ***** up media system and you cannot take a measurement based on such trite nonsense.
Go look around YouTube and get back to me. Just because the artists in my generation aren't acknowledged doesn't mean they don't exist. - kathleenmaher, on 05/21/2008, -6/+148Okay, I'm old--shy of X, late for a boomer. BUT you guys are young! Give yourselves time. You want great art? Defining culture? Unless you're talking about really pop stuff, it takes time. I agree with those claiming YouTube, Wiki, www. blogs, Photoshop; they're big stuff, especially if you lived much of your life without 'em. But still, meaningful art's gotta gel. When it's first happening, especially maybe in music, it might be fun or feel thrilling, but you can't tell how beautiful or significant it's gonna be for who knows how long. Besides, who says it's gotta be a generation thing?
- Flashman, on 05/21/2008, -7/+142It's a bit early to be calling Generation Y a cultural wasteland, especially since so much culture is commissioned, funded and produced by Baby Boomer corporations. You're blaming Generation Y for having films like "Not Another Teen Movie" (director: Joel Gallan, born 1957) and Scary Movie (director: Keenen Ivory Wayans, born 1958)? You're blaming Generation Y because it's spoonfed "prepackaged Disney stars that are created by a massive marketing machine"? Hardly Generation Y's fault.
Whatever. - Brew, on 05/21/2008, -13/+138Gen Y's contribution. Blogs, youtube, Digg, the whole web 2.0 movement. Sure our music sucks, and so does the Hills and MTV in general but thats really not our fault. You can't just take the lowest part of our culture and slap us in the face with it...well you can but we are just going to whine about it online:/
- Vapor17, on 05/21/2008, -4/+110umm, we have the a defining video and song, even a hero for our generation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU - Dumbledorito, on 05/21/2008, -12/+113"Go look around YouTube and get back to me."
Anime music videos, cats, and camwhores? - inactive, on 05/21/2008, -21/+117You know what? I'm ***** sick of this demographic *****!
I'm not a GEN Y or a CONSUMER or a CAUCASIAN YOUNG MALE or a ***** percentage, decimal, or spot on your ***** bs charts and graphs. I'm a ***** HUMAN BEING, so stop trying to group me into one of your ***** categories and stop trying to decimate individuality so as to make your stupid analysis and marketing based ***** job easier.
IM MAD AS HELL AND IM NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE :@ - michaelpinto, on 05/21/2008, -8/+102Putting down the younger generation is a sign of being old, so I'd suggest not falling into that trap.
- SuperMoses, on 05/21/2008, -4/+97Funny that he's writing a BLOG to vent. Isn't blogging part of Gen Y?
- thejoshbennett, on 05/21/2008, -42/+134Please have pity on my generation.
I agree wholeheartedly with this article- but not quite fair to lump us all in together. - kpwells, on 05/21/2008, -1/+83People tryin' to put us downnn...talkin bout my generation
- BedPost, on 05/21/2008, -1/+80Reminds me of a good Futurama quote:
*Professor passes out*
Leela: "Quick, someone shock him!"
Bender: "Stuff costs more than it used to! Your social security check is late! Young people use curse words!" - clarkd, on 05/21/2008, -12/+83You make it sound like Gen Y was created out of thin air. That the spoiled portion of Gen Y act the way they do because they chose to. How about you take the time to realize that the spoiled minority of Gen Y is the product of the generations that came before it, and that the only people to blame are probably the ones who are complaining.
As for me, my "apron strings" were cut quite a bit ago and I am doing just fine. No credit problems, a good job, a nice apartment in a nice town, and a fiancee to top it all off. And guess what? I worked my ass off for all of that. So how bout you show some self restraint before you go labeling everyone under 27 a spoiled brat? You should also get off your high horse and remember how stupid you and/or your peers were back in the day. Because if you are saying that you weren't then you are full of it. - thesparrowband, on 05/21/2008, -7/+68Gen Y owns the internet. there's no contest there. article is a fail.
- Standup101, on 05/21/2008, -67/+128Agreed. I also fall in between the Gen X and Gen Y groupings. I don't fit in either and hence can criticize equally with no remorse. But I must say Gen Y has screwed up royally. I would compare it to Michael Keaton's bum version of himself in the movie Multiplicity--the copy of a copy. Gen Y seems like a Generational glitch. Gen X was the last bastion of meaningful slackerdom.
- Bviper, on 05/21/2008, -6/+63This author acts as if its generation Y's fault... who controls the marketing machine? Who films the movies? Who comes up with the ideas for reality TV shows? Oh thats right the baby boomers and generation X. If anything generation X did too much brain damage during the 70's abusing drugs they can't come up with any original content to make. I for one can't stand to watch the crap on TV.
Oh well, don't worry in 30 years we'll get to say how lousy generation Z is and how our era was the greatest ever. - jmignea2, on 05/21/2008, -0/+57Dude it's spelled "losing." You're giving my generation a bad name.
- dha07030, on 05/21/2008, -0/+54Also its pretty stupid to say that ideas and creations apply to the generation, when these are funded by older generations and they decide who to fund.
edit: maybe that's why more people turn to the internet now. - stopbrorape, on 05/21/2008, -3/+56Our generation didn't make those ***** parody movies. We didn't make the real world *****. All of that stuff listed in Gen Y category I hate but I'm not putting any of this ***** out, don't pin this stuff on me.
- citydragon, on 05/21/2008, -4/+56Generation Y & X are surely totally arbitrary things anyway. Who decided Y started after 1981, why not 80 or 82. Can't see why people are arguing about it.
- notaktak, on 05/21/2008, -3/+54It's barely okay as parody, but I'm scared this guy means it - "I stopped listening to non-billboard music in 1991 and therefore it doesn't happen anymore"...
- TheWorm, on 05/21/2008, -2/+52This just isn't really true. If you're looking at our mainstream pop culture then sure, Soulja Boy and The Hills make us look pretty stupid and shallow, but honestly, most people DON'T like those things. To say we've had nothing of influence is just ignoring all the good stuff too. I'm not even going to try to name things, because there's too many.
- RedSaber, on 05/21/2008, -12/+61Right...
Some people just can't accept getting older.
That's alright, I understand. - ileftfark, on 05/21/2008, -6/+53Culture = homogeneity
We don't have a "culture" because we don't have any single defining traits common to our generation. I think that's awesome, personally. We're diverse in our backgrounds and interests, and have created more than any other previous generation (the worth of our creations is subjective, however); also, we are more connected and globally aware than our precursors. Plus, we have enough "sub-cultures" to overwhelm Kerouac. And so I say, with all due respect, "Suck it, cookie-cutter generations". - RedSaber, on 05/21/2008, -16/+62Another article by a frustrated Xer that ***** up his life, did not marry the right woman, did not have the children he wanted, still plays video games, does not have the job he wants...
Hey, if you ***** up your life and need a scapegoat, at least be smart enough to blame it on your parents, not your younger brothers/sisters.
People need to get smart at some point, for god's sake.
Our generation is the next great generation. Shut the frak up and join us in changing the world. Otherwise die alone. - unpolloloco, on 05/21/2008, -2/+44Have to point out the fact that (at least in the US), Gen Y-ers are going to be paying for baby boomer retirements - not exactly a small chunk of money - so in that sense, you do "owe it to them."
- Azimuth1, on 05/21/2008, -5/+47Buried for not understanding the difference between media created *for* a particular type of person, and media created *by* that particular type of person. The parody movies the article refers to were created by people older than 27. So are the TV shows, and so is the music.
Also, only two of the members of Fall Out Boy were born after 1981. - AlanFang, on 05/21/2008, -3/+44How can you say Gen Y has no culture when you have no historical perspective on it? How do you define something as "culture" anyway? Buried for lack of evidence and total ignorance.
- Doji, on 05/21/2008, -7/+45Exactly. Generation Y changed things so radically previous generations don't even know where to go looking for it.
- gambl0r, on 05/21/2008, -4/+38You can't not be in a 'generation'. You can be born around the time where the world/nation decides a new generation has begun, but there isn't some kind of gap that you and the author of this story fall into where you aren't in Generation X, or Y, or Millennials, or whatever. The guy who wrote this article is just wrong about the dates where one ends and the next begins. I think it's because these dates don't really exist until the next generation comes around and people can decide what major events brought around the beginning and end of the previous generation.
- peregrine, on 05/21/2008, -5/+38I read the article and it does not reference that Culture is moving out of "Movies, Music and TV" and into the internet. Sure Gen X worked on the internet but Gen Y only knows it outside of the work place. Many don't even use it inside the workplace yet.
I am sorry but Grunge to me is not anything more then Nirvana, and I think more then a few people would agree. Also I have seen those "Gen X" movies and they are good but I am sure glad that Gen Y doesn't allow the movie industry and its hacks to define themselves.
You have to realize that while the old world is defined by the things everybody saw and watched the new world is defined by whatever YOU want it to be. Back in Gen X's day they had the music the companies gave them, the movies the companies gave them and the Tv the companies gave them. Today the internet allows for anyone to give meaningful content to the world without big names behind it. - kp2575, on 05/21/2008, -1/+32we are so screwed...
- vind, on 05/21/2008, -1/+32I'm not trying to make an excuse, but I think one explanation for the "lack of culture" contributed by the Y generation can be the over abundance of culture it inherited. Many have noted that the Y generation has given us Web 2.0, which in turn has given back a wealth of information about everything. Excess seems to define generation Y, and not necessarily material excess, but excess in the sense that they can obtain anything they may want.
In short, I see the explanation for Gen Y's lack of cultural definition in its inability to focus, and thus it offers no typical manifestations. - sovereign3, on 05/21/2008, -0/+31Sounds like a looming Y2Z crisis.
- indypunx, on 05/21/2008, -4/+33This article is mind numbingly stupid. It completely ignores the fact that the so-called Gen Y has nothing to do with the television shows and movies that are made and marketed to them. Who produces all this MTV garbage that Gen Y is being saturated with? Not the kids in high-school. This guy acts like the spoiled rich girls from "the hills" couldn't have lived in their generation. As if rich-spoiled children who felt entitled were just invented recently. The real truth is that this is the first generation where this kind of spoiled entitlement garbage is broadcast out and marketed to kids. Some kids these days deserve blame for not doing more with their lives but what chance does this generation have to do more? The example that is being feed to them on TV is telling them this is how it is and the REAL inspiration for this generation is closer to home.
The reason this generation has really grown up with such poor education and feeling so entitled is because they were raised by the most spoiled self-entitled group of people in the history of our country. The Boomer's who raised us thought it was cool to do drugs and have sex in the 60's (with no responsibility for their actions b/c hey its cool man) and then as they grew older flipped and gave us the excesses of the 80's. This same generation is topping it off by giving us the dumbest president of all time and leaving our generation a mountain of debt and a country that is at war. The boomer generation is the same older executives who are producing all of these shows about spoiled rich girls and over-marketing everything to kids in school. Generations do not grow up in a vacuum. - ferrariman60, on 05/21/2008, -2/+31Exactly what I was thinking- isn't it the Gen Xers who are creating our ***** TV and movies right now? And by even bringing Reality TV into it, and following the logic that Gen Y made "Meet the Spartans" that means that Gen X brought us reality TV. That's a pretty horrible sin, isn't it? We might not even have our ***** reality TV if they hadn't invented the *****!
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -12/+40yeah, i always said i wanted to grow up in the 80s because of the arcade scene, but c'mon Halo 3 and GTA 4 on xbox live cannot get any better
- TheRealJMX, on 05/21/2008, -6/+33Sure they have culture.... it's internet culture. Generation Y should stand for Generation YouTube.
- prosayik, on 05/21/2008, -2/+29I thought this was the claim lauded by the previous generation of Generation X? Hence the Generic X sound alike name (yes, I know of Coupland's work too..)
You can't make a movie about the 2000's in the same way you can make "The Wedding Singer" or "Happy Days" about other decades. Is that because the 2000's lacked culture? No, its because we don't have enough distance.
Give it ten years and there will be a movie about emo kids saying "This new iPod can-- get this-- holds 10 albums! Can you imagine!" and going to see the latest superhero movie while the dad plasters the car with sideways United We Stand ribbons.
My point is give it time for there to be distance, trends to be traced, relevancy to be found, and it will be there. - inactive, on 05/21/2008, -3/+29Generation Y has nothing to offer? *****. In previous generations, the media took from the underground and turned it into a profit. Now with the internet, the world has a voice and art is no longer an elitist club. The media can't even keep up. I realize this and as an artist it has inspired me to dig deeper into my imagination to create new things from a different perspective.
The problem is that there are a lot of people and a lot of voices that need to be heard. We no longer need to worship artists because the internet gives us the sense that everyone can do it. That's what it's really about, self expression. Not what sells. - sugarazor, on 05/21/2008, -5/+31Oh God, every generation is full of nothing but consumers. That's just America in general.
- mrgreenjeans, on 05/21/2008, -4/+29"Most of the criticisms of Gen Y are that they are distracted...feel a sense of entitlement, they are the most marketed to generation ever...have chosen to date or have sex with me..."
Wait, what? The author's in his thirties, right? *high five* - fasda, on 05/21/2008, -4/+28you say that now and in less then 10 years all of those things will have counterparts that will put them to shame
- sylvok, on 05/21/2008, -18/+39I have VIDEO GAMES, so kiss my ass Generation X.
How does your "Grunge, Hip-hop, and Indie Rock" compare to my GTAIV oh whats that is that the sound of you loosing =P
/rant off -
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