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Generation Y Has No Culture

pointlessbanter.net — While there has always been generational wars has Generation Y been the first generation to give us absolutely no cultural movement? No music trend, no defining films, and they brought up the Hills... that is no good.

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  • fitqueenb, on 05/21/2008, -64/+30And, many come across like anyone older than them should be handing them things in life just because - we "owe it to them".

    Not sure how they will learn to take responsibility for their decisions, however, those now starting to live out on their own are getting a taste of reality, if their apron strings have been cut.

    And yes, they do lack culture..... a lot of it.
    • clarkd, on 05/21/2008, -12/+83You make it sound like Gen Y was created out of thin air. That the spoiled portion of Gen Y act the way they do because they chose to. How about you take the time to realize that the spoiled minority of Gen Y is the product of the generations that came before it, and that the only people to blame are probably the ones who are complaining.

      As for me, my "apron strings" were cut quite a bit ago and I am doing just fine. No credit problems, a good job, a nice apartment in a nice town, and a fiancee to top it all off. And guess what? I worked my ass off for all of that. So how bout you show some self restraint before you go labeling everyone under 27 a spoiled brat? You should also get off your high horse and remember how stupid you and/or your peers were back in the day. Because if you are saying that you weren't then you are full of it.
      • unpolloloco, on 05/21/2008, -2/+44Have to point out the fact that (at least in the US), Gen Y-ers are going to be paying for baby boomer retirements - not exactly a small chunk of money - so in that sense, you do "owe it to them."
        • whahaa, on 05/21/2008, -5/+1not if i never get a job!

          personally i'm counting on technology to cure all of society's ills sometime within the next 20 years, so if i can make it till then i should be okay.
    • inhaler, on 05/21/2008, -3/+4What exactly are we talking about? Culture or class? I haven't read the article yet, but in the case of a lack of culture, isn't that what we were ultimately looking forward to with globalization and post colonialism. Fannon's, "stateless, rootless, colorless, a race of angels," BS I've been fed the past ten years?

      As for a lack of class...well..they're kids still - not surprised?
      • ToadLeg, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4Hey Generation Y, GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
    • justreallygood, on 05/21/2008, -10/+2I think our generation is really pushing the "flattening" of the world and breaking down previous social barriers. Instead of black and white, we'll be human. Forums such as Digg, Facebook, etc are pools for great minds and talent to voice opinions and learn. We don't care about culture because each culture is unique and offers different knowledge pools. 40 years ago, if I had to chose between being an A student in the Bronx and an A student in Bejing, I'd probably choose the Bronx. Today and with our "global plug and play," anyone can contribute to a new world view for mankind.
      • bluntphallus, on 05/21/2008, -1/+20"Forums such as Digg [...] are pools for great minds and talent to voice opinions and learn"

        Ahem... I HERD U LEIK MUDKIPZ.
        • justreallygood, on 05/21/2008, -7/+2^--- Perfect example of Gen X and what they bring to the world. LOL
        • SydBarrett420, on 05/21/2008, -1/+1Generation Xenu
      • Pixelante, on 05/21/2008, -1/+8"Forums such as Digg, Facebook, etc are pools for great minds and talent"
        No they aren't.
      • ordig, on 05/21/2008, -1/+4"We don't care about culture because each culture is unique and offers different knowledge pools."

        cultures are unique so you don't care about them? You want to live in some kind of homogenous corporate world culture? No wonder you haven't produced any sort of relevant youth movement.
    • TheRealJMX, on 05/21/2008, -3/+8Generation YouTube has plenty of culture....
    • Serrellious, on 05/21/2008, -5/+24Where exactly are you guys producing all this half-assed generation-comparison ***** from? I can't see how there's any less ***** now than in the past. The ratio of Good ***** to Bad ***** is pretty much the same.
      • bjornski, on 05/21/2008, -3/+7Every single thing is a sequel now.

        Enjoy your recycled culture.
      • mediaphile, on 05/21/2008, -2/+7It's so much easier to create media these days, from music to videos to film and everything else, that the ratio of bad to good is probably much higher now. Before, it used to take a significant amount of support and investment to do the same things that now can be done by anyone with a mid-range computer. The relatively lower amount of access people had to those facilities before worked as a sort of filter; if you didn't have any talent, it generally wasn't worth the investment to produce something. Now, anyone can do anything.

        Of course, it's a wonderful thing that more talented people have opportunities to express themselves. The flip side is just that there's way more untalented people than talented ones, and they have all the same opportunities.
        • bjornski, on 05/21/2008, -2/+3And they're all remaking the same stories to milk it for one more buck.
    • indypunx, on 05/21/2008, -4/+33This article is mind numbingly stupid. It completely ignores the fact that the so-called Gen Y has nothing to do with the television shows and movies that are made and marketed to them. Who produces all this MTV garbage that Gen Y is being saturated with? Not the kids in high-school. This guy acts like the spoiled rich girls from "the hills" couldn't have lived in their generation. As if rich-spoiled children who felt entitled were just invented recently. The real truth is that this is the first generation where this kind of spoiled entitlement garbage is broadcast out and marketed to kids. Some kids these days deserve blame for not doing more with their lives but what chance does this generation have to do more? The example that is being feed to them on TV is telling them this is how it is and the REAL inspiration for this generation is closer to home.

      The reason this generation has really grown up with such poor education and feeling so entitled is because they were raised by the most spoiled self-entitled group of people in the history of our country. The Boomer's who raised us thought it was cool to do drugs and have sex in the 60's (with no responsibility for their actions b/c hey its cool man) and then as they grew older flipped and gave us the excesses of the 80's. This same generation is topping it off by giving us the dumbest president of all time and leaving our generation a mountain of debt and a country that is at war. The boomer generation is the same older executives who are producing all of these shows about spoiled rich girls and over-marketing everything to kids in school. Generations do not grow up in a vacuum.
      • PasteEater, on 05/21/2008, -4/+2"It completely ignores the fact that the so-called Gen Y has nothing to do with the television shows and movies that are made and marketed to them."

        You mean besides watching them.

        If no one watches the shows/movies, they stop getting made.

        I'm not suggesting that every single person under the age of 27 is watching everything that is marketed to them, but the vast majority are apparently.

        On a separate note, I have always read that Gen X ended at the end of 1978 (meaning you needed to be born before 1979).
        • stk198323, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2Are you insisting that no person from generation X watch those show? I'm pretty sure there is a LOT of people older then 25 years old watching reality show!!!

          And for the music, what would you listen to if you rejected all the crap they come with? Each generation wants to have it's music, style, etc. Personally I prefer 90's dance music and stuff, but still some people feel the need to listen to something from now and sadly they are left with... has-been Britney spears, recycled Madonna, emo song's (yeah that would be fall out boy's and that kind of crap) and of course the oh so special music of rap artist reading a lyrics sheet instead of actually singing!!. Can we blame them for listening to such music when it's all they have to offer?

          And beside, all of that is offered by the oh so superior generation X...
    • werries, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2stop stop, you're flattering me!
    • Rikkochet, on 05/21/2008, -4/+10Hardly. Your argument is as stupid as the article. It's a grumpy old man crying woe is me for the good old days.
      Well guess what? There are no good old days. There is today. There was yesterday, but now it's just something you remember (often incorrectly and always selectively). There's tomorrow, too, but we'll just have to wait for that. So all you do is sit around and moan citing some social problems you think exist - but then, you don't understand, do you, because you're distanced from anyone in that age group.
      This entire playground of Boomers and the letter-coded generations is so ridiculously stupid I can't take anyone who uses it seriously. What the ***** does it mean to be Generation X? You were alive in a time when the grunge movement started? Whoop dee ***** doo. That doesn't define you. It's an arbitrary, stupid milestone. Might as well say we're all the post-Einstein generation, since, let's face it, we're all spoiled and didn't come up with any groundbreaking theories on the makeup on the physical universe.
      • danomagnum, on 05/21/2008, -1/+3Word. They defiine generation X as graduating in the eighties but then they go and claim things from the nineties as distinctively theirs.
      • PasteEater, on 05/21/2008, -3/+1Stop it! You're killing me! LOL

        "So all you do is sit around and moan citing some social problems you think exist - but then, you don't understand, do you, because you're distanced from anyone in that age group."

        Read some history books. Hell, just watch some ***** TV. That has happened with just about every generation ever.

        And what do you think is going to happen to you? Do you really believe you are going to stay savvy with the next generation's needs/wants/desires? Do you think you are always going to be young? And even if you did, do you think that you wouldn't carry the baggage of experience with you through the ages?

        "What the ***** does it mean to be Generation X?"

        Here, let me help you:

        generation, noun: the average period, generally considered to be about thirty years, during which children are born and grow up, become adults, and begin to have children of their own.

        From Wikipedia:

        "In the 1991 book Generations, William Strauss and Neil Howe called this generation (Generation X) the '13th Generation' because it's the 13th to know the flag of the United States (counting back to the peers of Benjamin Franklin). Strauss and Howe defined the birth years of the 13th Generation as 1965 to 1982"

        ---
        I'm going to work under the assumption that you are part of "Generation Y". If so, how can you have the answers at your fingertips, and not have the wherewithal to find the answers?

        Or did you not expect a thoughtful response to your overblown foot-stomping?
    • brundlefly76, on 05/21/2008, -1/+6There hasn't ever been a generation that hasn't called successor a bunch of cultureless slackers.

      Inevitably, the march of history will continue to breed us into further decline and Gen Y will be a yet another golden bookmark for future generations to reflect on.


      • Pixelante, on 05/21/2008, -4/+0Doubtful since most of them will die before they can reproduce.
  • Standup101, on 05/21/2008, -67/+127Agreed. I also fall in between the Gen X and Gen Y groupings. I don't fit in either and hence can criticize equally with no remorse. But I must say Gen Y has screwed up royally. I would compare it to Michael Keaton's bum version of himself in the movie Multiplicity--the copy of a copy. Gen Y seems like a Generational glitch. Gen X was the last bastion of meaningful slackerdom.
    • kp2575, on 05/21/2008, -0/+19Why doesn't Michael Keaton get more work? If Costner can still make films.
      • pegothejerk, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2the eyebrows.
        • kineticworm, on 05/21/2008, -0/+9"Most of the criticisms of Gen Y are that they are distracted (always multitasking but never doing a good job)"
        • StonedFetus, on 05/21/2008, -7/+5What ridiculousness, I'm an '87 baby, and my cultural limits are essentially endless. I enjoy all GOOD music, from the 16th century to the present. I read books, play an instrument, consume healthy food stuffs etc etc...just because the majority of the population are ***** consumer $LAVE$ with no real education......please don' t stereotype, it is highly illogical. there may yet be hope for us Generation 'why'
        • litkaj, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2@StonedFetus,

          That's exactly the point. You're copying those that came before you. Find your own damn music.
        • StonedFetus, on 05/21/2008, -1/+0ALL good composers ALWAYS 'stole' , 'sampled' from other composers. and also, how could one form their own culture should they not have knowledge of the cultures which came before them.

          find my own damn music? alright, accepted, i am working on it. but with 500+ years of knowledge in music-culture, ignoring, or not copying our previous cultures, would curse me as an ignorant fool. Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. kind of like our current pop-music. very repetitive. god damn. every famous composer throughout history admitted to sampling other composers riffs and or phrases. its common ***** practice. it is obvious to me that you do not play.

          good day sir.
      • bemenaker, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1You gonna wire that for 220?

        220, 221, whatever it takes....

        One of the best lines evar!!!
    • chambana, on 05/21/2008, -16/+35my god, just to argue down a generation shows age. baby boomers thought the same about genX. all preceding gens don't get the next gen. you're just too much of a halvsie genXer to get y
      • joel8x, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4agreed, this guy took the best of one generation and pinned it against the worst of another. Gen Y has plenty of cultural contributions to be proud of. BTW, you don't fall between them - according to wikipedia, X is people born between 1965 to around 1982 and Y is between 1983 to 1997. So, you're either one or the other.
    • RedSaber, on 05/21/2008, -12/+61Right...

      Some people just can't accept getting older.

      That's alright, I understand.
    • Mononuclear, on 05/21/2008, -3/+6I'm going to eat a dolphin... she touched my pepe steve...
    • gambl0r, on 05/21/2008, -4/+38You can't not be in a 'generation'. You can be born around the time where the world/nation decides a new generation has begun, but there isn't some kind of gap that you and the author of this story fall into where you aren't in Generation X, or Y, or Millennials, or whatever. The guy who wrote this article is just wrong about the dates where one ends and the next begins. I think it's because these dates don't really exist until the next generation comes around and people can decide what major events brought around the beginning and end of the previous generation.
      • DephexTwin, on 05/21/2008, -2/+7There is no official "Generation Cutoff Board". Depending on who you talk to, the cutoff for Generation X is between 1976 and 1984. So if you are born in 1979 or 1980.... which generation do you belong to?
      • saranagati, on 05/21/2008, -1/+7Actually the dates kind of do exist, though they usually differ between a few years. Generation X is categorized by the children of the baby boomers which most agree lasted to somewhere between 74 and 81. I was born in 81 and my parents were both baby boomers however they were rather old when they had me. I think most people born around that time with younger parents would be better considered gen y. The defining point for Gen Y however is children who were born after the personal computer was released which was in 1981.

        On topic of gen y not having their own culture, that's just bull *****. They have their whiny music and their retro styles. Older generations might say that that's not a culture but thats what the baby boomers said about gen x because the music was just a bunch of screaming and the great generation said about the baby boomers because they were just dropping out from reality by being on a bunch of drugs. Once the day comes when the only defining characteristic of a younger person is their youthful body, that's when you can say they don't have their own culture. As long as the younger generation has their own music and their own habits, they will have their own culture.
    • drmobutu, on 05/21/2008, -10/+2Well, I said a couple of days ago, in another thread...Gen Y had the potential to really be something different, but it all got sidetracked with the Bush administration. Now Gen Y is starting to look like Generation X, all over again...Slack is Back!
    • 1aPowerDigger, on 05/21/2008, -15/+17Meh... I agree.. Gen Y are a bunch of consumers.
      • sugarazor, on 05/21/2008, -5/+31Oh God, every generation is full of nothing but consumers. That's just America in general.
      • ZenMojo, on 05/21/2008, -0/+151980 or before, Generation X.
        1981 or after, Generation Y.

        Pick a side, buddy. With us or against us!
        • DyceFreak, on 05/21/2008, -10/+2born? or just being alive?

          I mean what seriously defines a generation, being born on a certain date or living on a certain date? as far as I can see, this nation is still run by generation X, which is most likely the reason why not only this country is ***** up, but also the reason this B.S. article is written.
        • 1aPowerDigger, on 05/21/2008, -1/+6Against. But it's sort of like punching shaving cream.
        • sugarazor, on 05/21/2008, -0/+10This country isn't really run by Gen X - it's mostly run by the Baby Boomers and the people that raised them.
        • saranagati, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2The people who raised the baby boomers are called the great generation.
        • Pixelante, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1By "against" you mean against Gen Y? That's OK, but I'm more scared of my cereals.
      • Speed, on 05/21/2008, -1/+9That's every generation. As Lewis Black said in the movie Accepted: "Colleges like to throw around a bunch of fancy words to make our kids think they're going to make a difference, But we all know that all we're doing is breeding a new generation of buyers and sellers, buyers and sellers, pimps and whores, PIMPS AND WHORES".
        Every generation is bred to be a bunch of consumers.
        • ordig, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4Lewis Black is right, But sometimes there are counter-cultures that spring up among the youth in reaction to the fact that they are being raised to be whores. I think the point of the article is that generation y isn't very rebellious. They just lay down and take it. Generation x were slackers at least.
        • Speed, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1I guess it is kind of sad when one of the biggest rebels in our generation is the "Don't Tase me Bro" kid...
          Of course, when we look at what happened to many of the rebels of the previous generations, can you really blame us for not "sticking it to the man"?
      • passedoutghost, on 05/21/2008, -1/+0I seriously hope you are joking.
    • ZenMojo, on 05/21/2008, -18/+26The oldest of us is 27 years old. What do people expect? Our generation donates more time and money and spends more time in higher education than generations before so we get started later.

      Side note: Hip Hop and Grunge were invented by Baby Boomers, not Gen X'ers...hell, so was the Real World. Those Gen X douchebags gave us Eli Roth and all of those ***** teen horror flicks are the fault of GEN X'ERS.

      And we've got Alicia Keyes and Beyonce Knowles. You guys had Crystal ***** Waters and Vanilla Ice. So La-da-dee, la-dee-da my ass.
      • 1aPowerDigger, on 05/21/2008, -1/+20I think the larger issue is that the idea of a cohesive generational identity, is fiction.
        • thumperings, on 05/21/2008, -0/+31apower is exactly correct. It's like rooting for your race or a ***** sports team. It's meaningless. The one's that don't fit the stereotype are out there silently getting ***** done, and the ones that do, well who ***** cares? Humans are so ***** stupid. So you identify with "your team" winning the super bowl, but when they lose it's "them" Same with a douche bag who likes phish or Nirvana. Your listening to a ***** CD doesn't make you a musician you *****. You contributed nothing but your stupid opinion, while the silent folks get ***** done. Marginalization shows a lack of intelligence.
      • letitbleed62, on 05/21/2008, -1/+6Those things may have been created by generation x'ers but they are marketed to and consumed by generation y'ers
        • ZenMojo, on 05/21/2008, -1/+6Yeah, no, try again. Generation Y'ers were 7 when Vanilla Ice and the ***** New Kids on the Block were popular. Try again.

          Gen X'ers invented the boy band!

          You guys were just as derivative and talentless as us. You're just bogarting ideas created by and marketed for the generation BEFORE you.
        • saranagati, on 05/21/2008, -3/+2They may have been invented by gen x'ers but they were marketed to gen y's
      • Solis, on 05/21/2008, -1/+5I'm 27, don't go lumping me in with your ***** generation. I'm taking Gen X's side.
      • saranagati, on 05/21/2008, -0/+8Hip hop and grunge were both invented by gen x. Hip hop was invented in the late 70s by young people who were on the edge of the baby boomer/gen x generation and all the followers definitely came from gen x (1958/65 - 1975/81). Grunge was invented in the early 90s (maybe even late 80s) by young people and they were definitely all gen x's. As far as movies go however, you can usually blame it on the previous generation since most directors/movie people are older compared to the music industry (other than the manufactured bands which are really just the older generation using the younger generation).

        Kind of funny though because you as gen y are talking about the music that's marketed to you where as most other generations define themselves as the people their own age who are making their culture. With music in particular baby boomers had all the classic rock which were made by them, gen x had punk, grunge and hip hop/rap, and gen y has emo and whatever is marketed to you.
      • seandaly, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4Hip hop was most certainly CREATED by boomers. The Hip Hop movement started in NYC during the EARLY-seventies and hit the top 40 by 1979. It's pioneers (if you agree that the people like Kool DJ Herc, Grandmaster Flash and Afrika Bambaataa were in fact the pioneers), were all born from 1955 to 1957, which certainly puts them in the Boomer range. I know that there is some debate surrounding "trailing-edge" or "generation jones" boomers, but let's please agree that they were not Generation X.

        The grunge sound has been recognized as emerging around the mid-80's, although some would argue that the Melvins (formed in `82) were really the first band to encompass the "grunge" sound. Grunge's "recognized" pioneer, Mark Arm of Mudhoney, was born in `62, still puts him in the range of the Baby Boomer generation, although admittedly on the cusp of GenX.

        I will agree that the consumers of Hip Hop were definitely GenX, and Grunge was massively ingested by Gen X and the early Gen Y crowd.

        I think that the important thing to realize is that it's not just the creator / consumer responsible for a Genre of music and it's popularity. The industry marketers are really those who were behind these genre explosions. They saw something that "the kids" were into and exploited it to death. I'm willing to bet that most of those responsible were Baby Boomers.

        As for the Real World, the same thing holds true. Mary-Ellis Bunim (born in 1946) and Jonathan Murray (born in 1955) are almost solely credited with the creation of the show and were both baby boomers. Again, while created by boomers, the product was consumed on a massive scale by Gen-X and Gen-Y.

        Side-note: I hate the boomer generation... They've officially ***** this country into a hole and I can't wait for their mass-retirement to collapse the social service programs completely. We should take every boomer that did NOT plan for retirement effectively and shove their chronically spoiled asses on a large arctic island. Maybe Greenland? :) I'm sure Florida would appreciate it!
    • crash331, on 05/21/2008, -3/+13To be fair, I am technically an early Gen Y'er (born 1984) but I identify wholly with Gen X culture and ideals.
      • MeHow, on 05/21/2008, -15/+2the only good things that came out of gen X was Blind melon and Phish, everything else is just *****...
        • seandaly, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2Yeah, ummm, I'd like to call vote for giving Phish and Blind Melon to some other Generation.
      • nakani, on 05/21/2008, -2/+5Meaning you drink Mountain Dew™ ?
    • Jpardue, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2I was born at Midnight on 12/31/1980. Does this mean I'm generation purgatory?
    • virtualball, on 05/21/2008, -6/+1Hehe, Gen Why? Get it? We're lazy so we're asking "why?" I'm funny... right?
    • ChromeWalnut, on 05/21/2008, -9/+3umm.. the 80's sucked
      • Velnich, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1umm, the 80's rawked.
      • CaliCutin, on 05/21/2008, -0/+0Rick Astley sucked?? ABC, Flock of Seagulls, etc. sucked??

        Not in your life!
      • o0joshua0o, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2The 80's were awesome. I'm still trying to get back to 1985.
      • seandaly, on 05/21/2008, -1/+1Again... Can we please vote on having the 80's being erased from all public records and memory? The 80's (in my mind) is nothing more than an unbelievably embarrassing era marked by a pathetic bunch of Baby Boomers desperately attempting to hang on to their fading youth.
    • mega386, on 05/21/2008, -3/+2sounds like your jealous because we're more apathetic than you
    • victorh86, on 05/21/2008, -2/+2are you telling me lindsy lohan isn't a cultural influence??
    • jorkk, on 05/21/2008, -2/+8i think this is pretty ironic, using digg to proclaim that gen y has no culture

      i would entirly classify internet culture into gen y.

      you might not like the alternative culture of pitchfork demanding variety but that doesnt mean its not there at all.

      this article is lazy and doesnt actually try to make an argument for gen y's,

      "Generation X: Kevin Smith, Reality Bites, Singles
      Gen X had movies and filmmakers that helped define a generation. We are all lazy, mistrusting, weed smoking, coffee swilling, cynical smart asses…"

      and now you all write blogs and complain about the youths of today.
    • Hangly, on 05/21/2008, -2/+4If you feel like you don't really belong to any group, then congrats. You're the poster child for generation X.

      Boomers and Gen-Y know exactly who they are. Crises of identity are limited to us.
      • Velnich, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2Ehem, Gen Y is the "Echo" generation.
    • ElAssoWipo, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2You can stop arguing over MTV generation labels now.

      You do have a culture, except it's stupid.

      You're the Jackass-Internet-lolcat generation.
    • Tyrghast, on 05/21/2008, -1/+3Well, at least it wasn't my generation that ***** up the country and sent us in to a death spiral.
    • CyclonusRIP, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Another similarity between you and the author is that you both devote one sentence to establishing your neutrality then immediately take sides.
    • orph3us, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1We're waiting for all you gen x'ers and baby boomers to die so we can stop being judged and do our own thing in peace! ;D now get off my grass. :)
      Seriously, you have already acted out enough for 10 generations, we just wanna enjoy our lives quietly
  • thejoshbennett, on 05/21/2008, -42/+134Please have pity on my generation.
    I agree wholeheartedly with this article- but not quite fair to lump us all in together.
    • dha07030, on 05/21/2008, -0/+54Also its pretty stupid to say that ideas and creations apply to the generation, when these are funded by older generations and they decide who to fund.

      edit: maybe that's why more people turn to the internet now.
      • CyclonusRIP, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2It's also fairly dumb for the author to pat himself on the back for accomplishments of his peers that he never contributed to. I only pray that someone of my generation comes up with something worthy of me latching on to so I don't have to go out there and come up with something myself.
    • stopbrorape, on 05/21/2008, -3/+56Our generation didn't make those ***** parody movies. We didn't make the real world *****. All of that stuff listed in Gen Y category I hate but I'm not putting any of this ***** out, don't pin this stuff on me.
      • krahzee, on 05/21/2008, -4/+13No they probably were too young to make it, but if you didn't buy and consume it would it have been made?
        • dezmo, on 05/21/2008, -1/+20yes. Never underestimate the stupidity of the motion picture industry.
        • krahzee, on 05/21/2008, -1/+1How is the motion picture industry stupid if they keep making movies that make money? To them it´s about money,to gen Y it was about lack of taste.
    • sylvok, on 05/21/2008, -18/+39I have VIDEO GAMES, so kiss my ass Generation X.

      How does your "Grunge, Hip-hop, and Indie Rock" compare to my GTAIV oh whats that is that the sound of you loosing =P

      /rant off
      • jmignea2, on 05/21/2008, -0/+57Dude it's spelled "losing." You're giving my generation a bad name.
        • jetfuel, on 05/21/2008, -0/+13Why the hell do people have trouble with that??
        • plup, on 05/21/2008, -0/+7Because they SUCK, jetfuel?
      • robeph, on 05/21/2008, -1/+10I had video games too, I still do, I went from CoCo cart games and those long winded trs-80 type em yerself games, to cassette loaded zork. Then floppies, ohh floppies, 360k of wonderful cga 3 color, although the pastels sometimes hurt the eyes... we also had atari 2600, 50 something hundred, and the 7200, NES. SNES Genesis, gameboy and a crap load of computer games that while surely not up to par with todays graphics, had many the classic. The games of today while some are grand, are mostly grandiose and overblown, I enjoy gta4, but I think the original gta was around the gen x hey day....so it's a carry over from us. I'm not quite 30 so I don't think my day is done,

        One gripe i have is television.... I have yet to find any captivating shows that i'd dub soon to be classics, it's all trash these days, lost had a nice beginning but has become crap, half the stuff is a retry of old classic TV shows that are halfheartedly ruining the remembrance of the original. The movies that have been coming out? I'd much rather watch a Uwe Bowel rendition of katamari made on a 5million$ budget than these parody spewf crap arsed movies they keep releasing.......
        • dezmo, on 05/21/2008, -3/+10no good TV shows? Arrested Development? Scrubs? And yes, Lost has it's bad parts but it's still probably the best drama show ever made.
        • fasda, on 05/21/2008, -1/+1don't forget this decade took Battlestar Galactica from being pretty campy scifi series and remade it into something several times more awesome.
        • tyywebb, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2Lost is still good.
        • thumperings, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1haha I just remembered playing AMOK on my vic-20 !! It loaded from a cassette tape screeching for 10 minutes, then the game was loaded, and it was awesome. That's what people need to realize. Don't feel bad that you will die before lots of cool ***** is invented. It's ALL relative. The sensation of excitement is universal, be happy with what you have.Plus if there was nothign but cool stuff around you 24/7 it would cease to be cool or fun.
      • krahzee, on 05/21/2008, -8/+9How does your GTAIV compare to everthing Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Final Fantasy, etc.. from our generation.

        -- Gen X
        • WiseWeasel, on 05/21/2008, -8/+3By blowing them out of the water? Seriously, there are so many random activities to keep you busy in GTA4, you could always find something new to do. Platform games were fun and all, but sandbox games have them licked. I fall in between generations, and I'm going to have to vote for today's video games being wildly superior to last generation's.
        • fasda, on 05/21/2008, -3/+4ok play the original metroid for the NES then play metroid prime 3 the Wii. yes the plot, character and weapons are the same but the more important thing game play is drastically better then the original. Think about GTA, Oblivion, Mass Effect, Bio Shock comparing these games to metroid mario zelda and even final fantasy is like comparing cars in the 60's to cars from the turn of the 20's sure they have similarities and sure some companies who made the in the 20's still were in the 60's but the car's that were made in the 20's do not fair well under direct comparison.
        • andweirdontop, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Pixels are SO Gen X.
        • JeffD, on 05/21/2008, -0/+9Except it was the baby boomer's that created Mario, Zelda, et al. and gen X who started the GTA franchise (and presumably who still control its development). If you want to see what gen Y produces wait 10 years, the majority of them are still in school now.
      • alexforcefive, on 05/21/2008, -3/+20The author of this article is wrong for so many reasons I could pick, but the music one really got to me. It's FAR too early to be judging the cultural output of generation-y, but if you really want to, you could start with screamo, garage or IDM. If you really wanted to get in-depth you could talk about the massive shifts in the production and distribution of music. That counts as a cultural impact! The author seems to have made his conclusions and then built arguments around them.
      • dopplerdog, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2I was about to grant you video games... until I thought about it a little more closely, and realised that GTAIV is not that much a change from GTAIII or GTAII. In fact, it seems that the REALLY innovative game making was in the 80s and 90s. I'm not talking about tech, I'm talking about design and ideas. We're still mostly stuck on platforms, karts, fps, etc, etc - all of which go back to the 80s and 90s - which was when Xers were kids and teenagers.

        So aside from better graphics - what exactly does Gen Y lay claim to?
      • Pixelante, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2Videogames have been not so new since 1975.
      • SoulDrift404, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2I'm a musician, so to me, indie rock > your video games.
    • goomba323, on 05/21/2008, -3/+15Don't forget about LOST, The OC, and American Idol...it's like our generations X-Files, 91210, and Star Search respectively. And of course reality shows and game shows are thriving.

      I don't think they have a good case in terms of not having a defined television generation.
      • Hangly, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1What's important is who makes the shows, not who watches them.

        J.J. Abrams is Gen-X. Aaron Spelling is part of the baby boom.

        With a maximum age of 27, I don't think Gen-Y has written or produced many TV shows. Hell, Gen-X has just barely started. Like Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert? They're our age.
        • banana234, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4Ha! I like how when the good parts of gen y are brought up, gen x claims that they made it, but when the bad parts are brought up, we are the ones who buy it and that defines us.

          You guys have to pick one side!
        • Hangly, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Aaron Spelling shows are "good parts?"
    • nullx42, on 05/21/2008, -4/+22Today's music aint got the same soul.
      • carbonbasedunit, on 05/21/2008, -0/+15Personally, I like that old time rock 'n roll.
      • Aturaten, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4I'm partial to music that soothes my soul.
      • MeHow, on 05/21/2008, -1/+5Of course it aint got the same soul because we had to put up with all the crap that was happening and all the ***** pills are parents were giving us... We are expressing a new feeling...

        but may i add, i ***** hate the majority of the modern rock... I still listen to the old stuff
      • SuperWinner, on 05/21/2008, -1/+13I heard a GenY song at pizza hut the other day, someone had to point out to me that it was actually music.
        It was some guy rapping over a drum beat, there WAS NO MUSIC. No wonder genY are all pissed off, they listen to music that has had the music removed. I'd be pissed too.
    • AlmostAnderson, on 05/21/2008, -4/+8What we have created, Generation Y that is, is the ability to take all the offers from previous generation and to see a larger library of previous cultural movements thanks to our net connectivity. All the idiotic Gen Y's buy into American Idol, Pie, and all the other trash coming out of the media mills, while the intelligent ones sardonically take all offers of Gen X's and Boomers' and on and on and on to compare them. It's the older generations that get to decide who markets to us, as was previously stated. I believe Gen Y, or those of us that are truly going to matter, are playing the waiting game, because as little as we appreciate what's offered to us, we're not sure about what you previous generations passed off as decency, and more than that, what you've let evolve. We don't have control yet, when we do Gen X will still be pissed off. You grunge jerks didn't even appreciate Pinkerton, go listen to your 311 and Marcy Playground at Sky Bar, and I'll appreciate the My Bloody Valentine albums you left to the undergrounders in their deserved heyday. You people gave us Hootie and the Blow Fish, Billy Ray Cyrus and light mix radio stations. You also killed Chevy Chase. Kiss it.
      • SydBarrett420, on 05/21/2008, -0/+6

        You sound like a real douche when you start name dropping bands to show how "indie" you are. Every generation puts out both ***** and gold. Who the ***** cares about generations anyways? I have friends ranging from ages 19-50 and I don't see any "generation gap"

        Generation Xenu is coming
        • AlmostAnderson, on 05/23/2008, -0/+1Hey man, you're right. I'm sorry, let's be friends again? Remember the time we went camping together? I brought the mini tv-vcr combo. You wanted to watch the old Dean Martin Roast infomercial that I'd recorded for just that occasion. When Rickles showed up, we laughed till we spewed. Our hair was longer then, but we're the same guys, I mean, aren't we? Let's give it another shot. I'll say it: I love you. No, nevermind, I'll say it louder: I'm IN love with you.
    • Jethdm, on 05/21/2008, -4/+10So I'm 25 (which means I'm a part of the Gen Y culture), and I totally agree with the article. Nothing good or interesting has come out in the last like 10 years or more. Even today, I hate to put up with my current generation entertainment, I still enjoy the stuff, but its just not all that great.
      • SydBarrett420, on 05/21/2008, -5/+4How do you know you are getting old and cranky? When you start saying that nothing good comes out anymore and start pining for yesterday.There is constantly good ***** coming out and this is from a 28 year old, you just have to look for it sometimes.
      • seandaly, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3I REALLY hate Boomers, but at least they can claim that their generation is defined by the Vietnam war and their response to it. They at least made an impact.

        We are in a worse mess as-a-whole now than we were then, yet Gen-X and Gen-Y, given the opportunity to solidify their generation in history, yet, for the most part, do nothing about it.

        So, do we need a draft and the fear of death to motivate a generation in standing up for their rights?

        Note: If Obama wins, at least Gen-X & Gen-Y will have the first slightly black president recorded as an accomplishment.
    • cowman80i9, on 05/21/2008, -2/+7yup, i am generation y and i hate my fellow generation and what most of them like, ESPECIALLY the tv and music
    • FuzzyBunny, on 05/21/2008, -1/+13I completely disagree with this article. Why? Because it basically measures the cultural success of gen Y by the culture of gen X. Gen Y, of which I'm a member, may not have given us movie icons or musical icons, but it has given us numerous other culture icons. Instead of Reality Bites we have Grand Theft Auto and Halo. Instead of Indie rock we have indie games and podcasts. Instead of MTV we have Myspace and Facebook.

      The cultural legacy of the boomers didn't take place in the form of broadway musicals and radio serials. The cultural legacy of gen X didn't take the form of bebop music and drive in theaters. Why would anyone expect the legacy of gen Y to take the same form that the legacy of gen X did? The article seems to think that Gen Y hasn't given us any culture because it's movies and music don't mirror that of gen X. I say that gen Y wouldn't be giving us any culture if they did mirror gen X's accomplishments. People don't see things like video games or blogs as cultural achievements just like the didn't see rock and roll as one in the 50's and MTV as one in the 80's. But a decade or two from now people will realize that gen y had just as much to contribute to society as any other generation that came before it.
      • Masterful1, on 05/21/2008, -0/+8the Article is a mockery of itself, I would not have known about it had it not been for the internet, and the internet being as popular and well developed as it is now is due to gen Y. so don't tell me we have contributed nothing to society via a medium that prior to my generation was never even heard of.
      • sdcarter, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2Dude, I hate to break it to you; but all of those things were created by Gen-Xers or that group between X and Y (of which I am a part). The games you mentioned were made by my generation and were likely led by Gen-Xers.

        If you want to get technical, Gen-Y hasn't really created anything yet because most of the people are too young. The damage is done by Gen-Xers, who got their ***** together, marketing to Gen-Yers.
    • hedgehog001, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2"lumping people together" is the point of calling it a "generation".
  • GoodnessGracie, on 05/21/2008, -39/+11They've only managed to come up with "emo" but we did that in the 80's and it was called "punk".
    • faceless323, on 05/21/2008, -4/+2oxymoron FTL!
    • calantus, on 05/21/2008, -9/+1 frankly i don't give a ***** about 'culture' if hippies, punk, emo was/is a culture. No thanks.
    • Niallgriff, on 05/21/2008, -0/+6Punk is from the 70's, and has little to no relation to emo. The first real emo band was Fugazi....in the 80's....
    • mrraven200, on 05/21/2008, -1/+7Actually emo is more like goth Siousxe and the Banshee, etc, than punk which is more crisp, angry and minimalist. Gen Xer here. I think my blogger Gus friend put it best when he said emo is what happened when "busy" baby boomer parents starved their kids of attention:

      • Pixelante, on 05/21/2008, -1/+1Siouxsie Sioux was part of the Bromley Contingent, a bunch of Sex Pistols fans which also included Billy Idol. They're definitely post-punk but not emo. Emo happens when you get rich, spoiled kids who can't do anything but whine all the time and post ***** on teh interweb.
        • mrraven200, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1I said like not equals, as in emo ripped off goth. Emo much?
    • inobla, on 05/21/2008, -1/+3"They've only managed to come up with "emo" but we did that in the 80's and it was called "punk""

      No, we called it Goth...which was slightly more testosterone driven than Emo and had better music. Punk is and was nothing like Emo.
    • Supergenie, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Ah-hah, but did you come up with the emo 'look' that has pretty much NOTHING to do with the music itself?
  • guillebravo6, on 05/21/2008, -35/+8This is very true, no contributions whatsoever...sad
    • calantus, on 05/21/2008, -7/+2Gen. X's contributions, was well, vietnam, this war, debt, debt, and well more debt.
      • Chassit, on 05/21/2008, -1/+4Way to show how much you don't know what you are talking about.
      • Hangly, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4Vietnam was the fault of the WWII generation for gods sake, and the Boomers fought in it. Gen-X were all babies.

        You can't blame Gen-X for anything that happens politically, unless it's because of apathy.

        We don't do politics. At all. Hell, most of us don't even go outside. We live up in attics like Emily Dickinson.
    • smashingmonkey, on 05/21/2008, -0/+8Now THAT'S funny - we Gen Xers were born during vietnam, silly.
      • zman14321, on 05/21/2008, -3/+1Correct, you just have the Iraq war, congratulations.
        • dopplerdog, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3You won't find many Xers in the top jobs in government yet. You can't pin Iraq on Xers - this rests on the shoulders of Boomers.
    • Lemm, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2if there's gonna be some vote eventually... I nominate Bit Torrent.
  • meghanl12, on 05/21/2008, -22/+10This was great. I work teens and young adults a lot. So many of them, privileged or not, feel completely entitled! And it's not an act, they aren't waiting around hoping you will do the job for them. They just don't care if they're supposed to - it's a little frightening. And as far as Culture - there is zero staying power in what we see on Television or listen to on the radio. ZERO.
    • WiseWeasel, on 05/21/2008, -2/+3That's because you're still watching TV and listening to the radio. Get with the program, gramps!
    • Phrozn60, on 05/21/2008, -2/+1I disagree. I think my generation has its life. The fact that my generation is different only proves that every generation is. Ours is just less conformist, and so therefore each apparent trait of generation Y seems pitiful. But there are many more under the surface.
      • meghanl12, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Every generation has 'life'. I was talking about my own specific experiences. And lack of conformity isn't a descriptor I would use for the limited segment of this population I interact with.
    • LydiaLisa, on 05/25/2008, -0/+0LESS conformist? OMG kids, I'm speechless, maybe you'll realize when you grow up how silly that statement is. I agree with that "entitlement" comment too- kids today don't seem to have much of a conscience either. And that entitlement thing- very true, very spoiled and don't seem to have much respect for anyone - It cracks me up when kids try to act and talk like pimps... you know, I don't even think they know what that word means!! It's like they're dressing in costumes when white kids from the suburbs start talking like people they've never met- kids that wouldn't last a minute on the streets. They'd get robbed and turned out in a hot second- then they'll find out what a pimp really is!! haha you kids are SO funny, you don't even know!
  • DiggLive, on 05/21/2008, -7/+187Let the scapegoating commence.
    • vind, on 05/21/2008, -1/+32I'm not trying to make an excuse, but I think one explanation for the "lack of culture" contributed by the Y generation can be the over abundance of culture it inherited. Many have noted that the Y generation has given us Web 2.0, which in turn has given back a wealth of information about everything. Excess seems to define generation Y, and not necessarily material excess, but excess in the sense that they can obtain anything they may want.

      In short, I see the explanation for Gen Y's lack of cultural definition in its inability to focus, and thus it offers no typical manifestations.
      • iofthestorm, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3Lack of focus? What are you talking about?
        *switches tabs to next digg story*
        Seriously, I think tabs and RSS feeds have been the two biggest contributors to my complete inability to focus when in front of a computer, and sometimes even when not in front of a computer. Damn you, Firefox!
    • wiggs08, on 05/21/2008, -1/+10who do we give up first?.....i say the EMO's
    • breezytrees, on 05/21/2008, -0/+9For those that don't understand this, allow me to attempt to explain. The problem is that Babyboomers nowadays are delaying retirement. In the past, there were always two generations in the market. The old generation in power, and the young generation. The generation in power always wants to hire the young generation, because they are young, smart, motivated, and always technologically adept and up-to-date. The problem is... the pattern of the past dictates that gen x should be the generation in power, since the oldest of the 3 generations *usually* retires. Sadly, this is not the case. The oldest generation is not retiring and thus not handing the reigns of power over to the second oldest generation.

      This leaves Gen X stuck in the middle. The managerial positions gen X should have are staying with the boomers who refuse to retire. There are only so many managerial jobs, and those are all staying with the boomers. Coupled with a failing economy, Gen X is pretty much getting laid off, as there is no use for them in the market. The boomers are in control, and they want to hire Gen Y, not Gen X.

      This leaves Gen X feeling like left out trash. They don't full understand why they are being laid off. All they see is they are being laid off, and Gen Y is taking their place. What results in my opinion is contempt of Gen Y. Gen X is pissed off and looking for someone to scapegoat.

      Further explanation: http://www.businessweek.com/managing/content/dec20 ...
    • Archer007, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4Kids these days!
    • andweirdontop, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2Maybe we love all culture.
    • NaziHatinChimp, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1I always thought we would reach a cultural depression just like we had a financial depression. Just take a look at Britney Spears and tell me I am wrong.
    • tyywebb, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2Get off my lawn!!
    • mtg1287, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2You know I read a book about Gen Y and how we are expected to be the next hero generation. If you want to check it out check out either of these articles

      http://digg.com/arts_culture/Gen_Y_Heroes_Rising

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Strauss
  • basementjohnny, on 05/21/2008, -77/+223This article is total *****.

    If you are looking to traditional pop culture for information about MY generation you are looking in the wrong place. We are not part of your ***** up media system and you cannot take a measurement based on such trite nonsense.

    Go look around YouTube and get back to me. Just because the artists in my generation aren't acknowledged doesn't mean they don't exist.
    • kp2575, on 05/21/2008, -11/+4"pop culture for information about MY generation you are looking in the wrong place"

      No I can just listen to "Of Montreal" on an Outback commercial.
    • Dumbledorito, on 05/21/2008, -12/+111"Go look around YouTube and get back to me."

      Anime music videos, cats, and camwhores?
      • calantus, on 05/21/2008, -1/+7debt is a culture amirite?
      • sylvok, on 05/21/2008, -1/+4Exactly
      • narcofiche, on 05/21/2008, -1/+15This is the same kind of thinking this story is based on. You can't hand pick things and make generalizations. It's like saying the 70's sucked completely because of disco.
        • Dumbledorito, on 05/21/2008, -1/+5It was part of a triad that also included polyester and most hairstyles.
      • tyywebb, on 05/21/2008, -1/+3Seriously how can you criticize the generation that gave us lolcats?
    • sebby2022, on 05/21/2008, -4/+10Hell yeah mof' *****'!
    • GJBlizzard, on 05/21/2008, -2/+3I agree with the first line of your comment.

      The epitome of this is defining Generation X as "anyone who graduated from high school in the '80's."
    • xWintermute, on 05/21/2008, -3/+20Agreed wholeheartedly. Our generation hasn't been spoonfed "culture" via broadcast media, we seek out what we want.
    • narcofiche, on 05/21/2008, -3/+29Generation Y has nothing to offer? *****. In previous generations, the media took from the underground and turned it into a profit. Now with the internet, the world has a voice and art is no longer an elitist club. The media can't even keep up. I realize this and as an artist it has inspired me to dig deeper into my imagination to create new things from a different perspective.

      The problem is that there are a lot of people and a lot of voices that need to be heard. We no longer need to worship artists because the internet gives us the sense that everyone can do it. That's what it's really about, self expression. Not what sells.
      • greenamp, on 05/21/2008, -4/+6Any major cultural movement will be exploited by corporations for profit. That doesn't make it any less of a movement. You can't stop something popular from being exploited for cash.

        The fact that Gen Y hasn't seen any attention is just an example that you haven't done anything worth noting.
        • narcofiche, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3I'm not even Gen Y, I just happen to agree with the original commenter. I have nothing against the media exploiting artists because it's usually up to the artist to decide whether or not they want to get to that point.

          If this article was titled "Gen Y's mainstream trends aren't as good as the previous generations" then I'll agree because I happen to like it more, but this article is called "Gen Y Has No Culture" and it's a ***** statement.
        • tech42er, on 05/21/2008, -4/+1The ***** Internet? You think that's not being exploited by major corporations? Sure, Gen Y didn't "invent" the Internet, but they populated it. The 21st century tech culture IS Gen Y's culture. Digg IS the culture of Gen Y.
      • banjom, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2"We no longer need to worship artists because the internet gives us the sense that everyone can do it."
        Perhaps that's the problem. Everyone CAN'T do it. Your teachers may have told you that anyone can do it, but that's just not true.

        "That's what it's really about, self expression."
        True. Unfortunately that means that one has to wade through a mountain of mediocre "expressions" to find anything of value.
        • narcofiche, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1True, everyone can't do it, but the people who are serious about it will always find creative ways to get noticed above the ones who aren't putting as much in. It may not be as easy as previous generations, but that's something to admire about this generation.

          The art world has always had to wade through a bunch of crap and it's no different now, except it's on a larger scale. To me, all expression has value if it's honest and has something new to offer. This generation has made good use of the internet to promote themselves and that shouldn't be overlooked. Instead of judging, we should be happy with the fact that we can see new artwork from places that are often overlooked by 'the art world.'
    • Doji, on 05/21/2008, -7/+45Exactly. Generation Y changed things so radically previous generations don't even know where to go looking for it.
      • Pixelante, on 05/21/2008, -7/+5Gen Y didn't change anything. They believe they have, but they're simply living off innovations left over by Xers and Boomers. They're all going "ZOMG we're so smart we have compyooters and TEH INTERWEB" but they're simply low-end users, not builders. They're the empty can tied to the dog's tail.
        • mindlessknight, on 05/21/2008, -3/+3I disagree, you have judged us prematurely.
          I think my generation will do things in the fileds of cosmology, astronomy, and robotics that will astonish all past generations.

          You are criticizing the way that people communicate online. Why? As long as the message is comprehended, what is the difference?
          The echo boom (89-94) is only reaching maturity now and not only change, but revolutionize the U.S.
        • Pixelante, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2You THINK? DO, and then talk. For the moment, Gen Xers have been a big let down compared to boomers (which is already bad) and especially towards the WW2 generation. Gen Yers show the attitude to do far worse.
    • ricodued, on 05/21/2008, -1/+9I'm agreeing with you on this, especially the YouTube part.

      Media atomization has been a defining part of our 'culture' and especially this particular time period, thanks to blogs, YouTube, and podcasts among other things.
    • sczzbckt, on 05/21/2008, -1/+3You have to understand that generation X is in charge of all the media, and all that this person considers is media, perhaps its generation at creating this culture or whatever
    • zambuka, on 05/21/2008, -9/+6Sooo... you're saying we should judge the Gen Y culture by youtube?

      Judge you by Rick Roll, Two Girls Cup, Starwars kid?
      Lame stunts copying Jackass? A never-ending stream of "world's funniest x" (mostly someone getting a kick to the nuts in some form or another) without the vague justification of a game show to encapsulate it?
      A whole bunch of funny animal clips? Clips from old movies and a load of cartoon soundbytes?

      This is what Gen Y seems to be contributing. And face it, unless there is some major upheaval in the counter culture, that's the type of thing these early years of Gen Y are going to be remembered for.

      Gotta admit however that there are some good contributions from Gen Y. Namely Mechanima (most of it's pretty lame but there is enough good stuff to compensate) and social networking (this concept is more a contribution by the tail end of Gen X).

      There is however plenty of time for Gen Y to find their legs and give us something good to remember them by.
    • headzoo, on 05/21/2008, -3/+17"We are not part of your ***** up media system"

      Seriously? You're also called the "Look at me" generation, because you can't get enough of showing off, either on TV, or on the Internet. You are total media darlings.
      • ChristianMagic, on 05/21/2008, -1/+3Of course, every one of us are "media darlings", there are absolutely no counter-cultures. That makes sense.

        "because you can't get enough of showing off" Also, ***** you, don't tell him/her what they think.
        • headzoo, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3I was making a generalization, and so was s/he. I guess that went right over your head.
      • Kapitaine, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2You have to bare in mind, gen Y is a lot more comfortable with the media and how to handle it. Thus, we can either let it destroy us, or totally abuse it for our own gain. If saying "look at me" gets you some nice cash, then why not?
      • sfazzio, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2The "look at me" title refers to the fact that we a media creaters, rather than idle participants.
    • dopplerdog, on 05/21/2008, -5/+8Heck, Gen Y couldn't even come up with an original name for their generation.
      • Enasni1212, on 05/21/2008, -1/+10Hey, we didn't name it, YOU did. Which is part of the problem. We don't have a mainstream media voice. There are plenty of mindless losers in my generation, just like there are in yours. The difference is that YOUR generation has a strong voice in mainstream media, whereas the worthwhile things in our generation are mostly on the internet.
    • CrushThemTorg, on 05/21/2008, -0/+8There's no such thing as counterculture anymore because there's no dominant culture. You think fragmented culture just came out of nowhere? No, we were given the technology to overcome a media environment that didn't fit our –admittedly self-centered – needs or tastes. If you guys think that's no culture, you need to see the forest from the trees.
    • theepicpusher, on 05/21/2008, -5/+2This has got to be one of the worst articles I have ever read.
      There is no logical sense in any of the authors writing. Say that a generation has not contributed to culture anyway is bull *****. First I'm gonna go out and say that generation x does not have a lot to be bragging about. Rick Astley's "Never Gonna Give You Up" hit number 1 one almost all of the popular movement charts in 1987. How did the author forgot this major contribution to popular culture. What about all that other ***** over done synth 80s music. If you are gonna bring up mainstream music that the Y gen has contributed to why didn't you include all the great music of the 80s and early 90s? I'm not talking about underground stuff such as Sonic youth, Dinosaur Jr, or perhaps hip-hop such as the pharcyde, or wu tang. I'm talking ***** sounding, over done effects, straight up 80s pop music. I will admit that Generation Y has some ***** ass music and "culture" however you generation Xers are ignorant. Have you heard of Myspace music? Millions of talented artist now have the ability to post their true "indie" music. Because of the internet and its ability to supply vast amounts of culture it is impossible for the media or mtv to jump on 1 artist and solicit them successfully. As far as mainstream music from generation Y such as the mentioned fall out boy, most likely they were signed by someone from generation X. For the author to claim that pop punk is is the music of generation y shows they are completely unaware of our culture. Try to find a die hard fall out buy fan above the age of 13. I dare you. I think generation x is part to blame for brainwashing the generation y youth. Generation X is the one blasting radio stations with fall out boy and soulja boi. After generation x came in control of mtv (which was already in ruins) they added to the fire. I bet the producers of the hills are from generation x. Don't blame generation y for ***** mainstream culture, when generation x are the ones that are forcing this ***** apon them, just as boomers, forced 80s pop on gen x.

      Why don't generation Xers listen to some Lupe Fiasco, the Redwalls, Gnarls Barkley, Vampire Weekend, the Roots, Arcade Fire, Bloc Party... the list goes on
      • xsquirrel378x, on 05/21/2008, -1/+1>Why don't generation Xers listen to some Lupe Fiasco, the Redwalls, Gnarls Barkley, Vampire Weekend, the Roots, Arcade Fire, Bloc Party

        because that ***** ***** sucks. the roots are ok at best
      • drugged, on 05/23/2008, -0/+1"Why don't generation Xers listen to some Lupe Fiasco, the Redwalls, Gnarls Barkley, Vampire Weekend, the Roots, Arcade Fire, Bloc Party... the list goes on"

        We do.

        I totally agree with you, mainstream culture has always been ***** (well, mostly *****, there have been a few gems). The underground stuff is what's going to really matter 20 years from now, just like the underground stuff from the 80's and 90's (and earlier even) are shaping today so heavily.
    • Spudster, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4You CAN spot a significant cultural difference between the 90's and 00's. The defining moment for Generation Y is 9/11. You can see this in many ways: The election of 2004 and the upcoming election of 2008 are playing out much differently than the relatively centrist and unexciting elections of '92, 96 and 00. That's a great example of how 9/11 changed culture dramatically. In the 90's, there was a great optimism and in a sense a feeling of being safe. That was shattered by 9/11 and you saw culture change as a result. After 9/11, "emo" music became popular that expressed darker undertones which contrasted itself greatly to the ridiculously upbeat pop of the late 90's (remember Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys?)

      If you want a great example of how this change happened, you can use the Backstreet Boys as a pop culture example (keep in mind I hate the Backstreet Boys, but this serves as a good example of the change in music style).

      Pre-9/11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o-i1exXUO0

      Post 9/11 Backstreet Boys (attempted comeback to become popular by becoming much darker): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxaJffk-3Sc
    • hedgehog001, on 05/21/2008, -1/+1Care to provide specific examples?
  • peregrine, on 05/21/2008, -26/+525Wow lets just forget the Internet, youtube, wikipedia, digg, reddit, whatever. Come on this article is simply playing to the frustrated X'ers who are stuck in the shadow of the Boomers.
    • kp2575, on 05/21/2008, -7/+3actually it was a giant lead up to make fun of the real world tv show...
    • duggtodeath, on 05/21/2008, -18/+21And what Gen built all that?
      • Syric, on 05/21/2008, -15/+31Well, considering how much of the IT industry is composed of recent college grads, people in their late 20s, and young people all around...

        I'd say Y.

        Your sarcasm failed.
        • phrenzy, on 05/21/2008, -2/+8I believe he said BUILT not "worked in"
      • Frozenfuryblade, on 05/21/2008, -4/+9All Gen Xers by the look of the Wikipedia articles. May be a Gen Yer but I have to say that our gen kind of sucks.
      • Phyraxus, on 05/21/2008, -3/+2What Gen embraced it?
        • drugged, on 05/21/2008, -2/+3what gen? all of them.
        • Spudster, on 05/21/2008, -3/+3I don't see Grandma on Facebook yet...

          Seriously, most Gen X'ers have NOT embraced web 2.0 in the way Gen Y has.
      • jorkk, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2i really dont think you get this

        im pretty sure a boomer probably came up and invested in about 2/3rds of the stuff on that list, its the culture that was created by the X'ers due to it.

        not so much the invention but the reaction.

        and to assume that a social site is defined by its founder is ridiculous.
        so yes gen y built those sites, apart from wiki you grannys can have that.
      • Jorin, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1The Beatles played guitars and amps built by those of a generation before them. Elvis sang old country tunes. Led Zeppelin covered When the Levee Breaks. Jazz nights were held in old music halls from previous generations. The creative energy is what we're looking at here.
    • kp2575, on 05/21/2008, -4/+1Read the article and see about the cultural shift that occurred on there.
      • peregrine, on 05/21/2008, -5/+38I read the article and it does not reference that Culture is moving out of "Movies, Music and TV" and into the internet. Sure Gen X worked on the internet but Gen Y only knows it outside of the work place. Many don't even use it inside the workplace yet.

        I am sorry but Grunge to me is not anything more then Nirvana, and I think more then a few people would agree. Also I have seen those "Gen X" movies and they are good but I am sure glad that Gen Y doesn't allow the movie industry and its hacks to define themselves.

        You have to realize that while the old world is defined by the things everybody saw and watched the new world is defined by whatever YOU want it to be. Back in Gen X's day they had the music the companies gave them, the movies the companies gave them and the Tv the companies gave them. Today the internet allows for anyone to give meaningful content to the world without big names behind it.
        • kp2575, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1that reply was to duggtodeath... totally my bad.

        • greenamp, on 05/21/2008, -3/+4If you think grunge was nothing more than Nirvana you have proved why your generation is so without any notable substance. There are bands that you have never heard of that came way before NIrvana who changed the music scene drastically. Nirvana was a product of that, not the catalyst.

          But you only know what your peers say, and they are just as uninformed as you.


        • Pulch, on 05/21/2008, -1/+3Oh know, because he doesn't know grunge subculture, he must follow the flock! /s.
          If he wasn't into grunge, of course he's only gonna know Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, or god forbid, Pearl Jam. The man isn't going to know the Melvins from the Meat Puppets. If you can name every lesser known group in every genre, then congrats. It's not worth a verbal beating to somebody who grew up 10 years too late because they don't know the precursors to the big guys.
        • Spudster, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2When I think of Generation X I think of apathy and bitterness towards Boomers. I think in a way this is being expressed against Generation Y and the great opportunities they have been born into that Generation X lacked because the Boomers took all the meaningful jobs.
        • drugged, on 05/23/2008, -0/+1If it weren't so misinformed, it might actually be a funny post. "GenY only knows it outside of the workplace" - The Internet has been around since '93, Most of Gen X was YOUR age when it was brand new, jackass. And these retarded statistics about Internet uptake are totally wrong, GenX was jumping on the Internet in droves, even thought there was nothing on it, oh, that's right we MADE the stuff that's on it - CREATED THE ***** CONTENT. Moron. Sorry that we're all working now, and don't have the time to spend on Digg that we once had, otherwise, all of these retarded comments would be buried to hell.

          You guys do have a great culture, but making ***** up and trying to rewrite history doesn't fix anything, it just ***** things up.
        • drugged, on 05/23/2008, -0/+1"Back in Gen X's day they had the music the companies gave them, the movies the companies gave them and the Tv the companies gave them"

          I guess you've never heard of alternative or indie music then, huh? The "alternative" and the "indie" aren't just arbitrary words thrown in to sound cool, they actually mean something. They mean NOT controlled by corporations. No *****, "indie" is short for independent. No, really, it is. Which is where the idea of web 2.0 came from. It's why bands like NIN and Radiohead and Le Tigre and about a bazillion others are now publishing their own content on the Internet. Because it is an ideal held dear by Generation X. Also, Gen X didn't watch a lot of TV, because it mostly sucked. Most of us didn't start watching until Comedy Central and teh other small outlets started appearing, because, oh yeah, we were on the Internet.

          I'm really sorry that this article was so hurtful, I think it's a piece of *****. But it's not making it better to cap on my culture, especially considering how much we have done for your generation, and how hard we worked to wrestle the world from the hands of the old school way of thinking - and our generation if ***** small, 1/3 the size of yours.
    • bobjewback, on 05/21/2008, -12/+40yeah, i always said i wanted to grow up in the 80s because of the arcade scene, but c'mon Halo 3 and GTA 4 on xbox live cannot get any better
      • fasda, on 05/21/2008, -4/+28you say that now and in less then 10 years all of those things will have counterparts that will put them to shame
        • max420, on 05/21/2008, -1/+8Yeah, but those games will be remembered for their cultural impact. Halo 3 had a pretty big cultural impact, almost everyone in Gen Y at least KNOWS of Master Chief.

          GTA had so much controversy surrounding it, that a lot of people know about it as well. Video games are a huge part of our culture now.
        • tech42er, on 05/21/2008, -0/+6@max
          That wasn't so much Halo 3 as just Halo, both as a series and particularly the first one. You're right: Halo and GTA have had an immense cultural impact.
      • Raptor007, on 05/21/2008, -0/+8I'm a Gen Y (born in 83) and I got to experience the arcade. FunPlex was one of my favorite places to go as a kid; I'm really sad it's closed now. But there was no way for it to survive the rapid advance of PC and console gaming. :¬(
      • Super6, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Does that mean there's no GTA5?
    • SuperMoses, on 05/21/2008, -4/+97Funny that he's writing a BLOG to vent. Isn't blogging part of Gen Y?
      • ThePenrod, on 05/21/2008, -1/+16PWND! Which, I might add, is a colloquial invention of Gen Y. How post-modern of me.
        • drugged, on 05/21/2008, -3/+1again, you people have no idea what you're talking about, pwned has been around for ***** ever!

          http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/p/f/pwned.htm

          for fcuks sake... dude, READ some time.

          I read the article and thought, man, that was uncalled for. And now I'm siding with the dude who wrote it. I've seen maybe 10 correct historical statments about the internet by you people who call yourselves masters of the interwebs. I would laugh, but it hurts too much. Go to the back of the line, you need to start your little internet adventure over, from the beginning.
        • ThePenrod, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2I apologize for not reading about.com.

          Also, the word "owned" though not the derivative "PWND" or variation, is much much older than the 1980s.
        • drugged, on 05/23/2008, -0/+1Yes, "owned" is very old, so is "pwned" it exists because the p and o are right next to one another on a keyboard. If you'd read more hacker journals throughout the 80's and early 90's, you would know this.
      • RedSaber, on 05/21/2008, -4/+3you guys are way to 1337.
      • 4d669, on 05/21/2008, -3/+2The internet and blogging started during the 90s, what the ***** are you all talking about. It's X territory.
      • Hangly, on 05/21/2008, -1/+1I'm afraid X wrote all the software.
        • SuperMoses, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1And Gen X never took anything from their predecessors? That's like saying X shouldn't take credit for the software because the baby boomers came up with the theory and the OS (Bill Gates, Jobs, etc). It's ridiculous to compare generations, the new generation is just carrying the baton from the old.

          And besides, the founding developer for one of the most commonly used blogging software (wordpress) is from Gen Y. Hmm, I wonder what this blogger uses:
          http://pointlessbanter.net/wp-admin
      • Genady, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Facebook is Y. 'Classic Blogging'? That's X.
    • frelk, on 05/21/2008, -2/+6Zuckerberg
    • thesparrowband, on 05/21/2008, -7/+68Gen Y owns the internet. there's no contest there. article is a fail.
      • n3tfury, on 05/21/2008, -4/+1your life revolves around the internet = fail.
    • 1aPowerDigger, on 05/21/2008, -11/+7Wait... Wikipedia? That ain't Gen Y, sonny...
      • ThePenrod, on 05/21/2008, -4/+4And ain't ain't a word, granpa...
      • headzoo, on 05/21/2008, -1/+5Nor is Digg, YouTube, Google, etc. All of them were founded by people born in the 70's.
        • Spudster, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1And overwhelmingly accessed and worked on by young Gen Y'ers.
    • chiefbttlwshr, on 05/21/2008, -1/+6Agreed, give them a chance.
      They may change the world, who knows.
    • RyanPT, on 05/21/2008, -6/+26Sorry man, but I'm pretty damned sure that most of those were made by Gen Xers. Though, to be perfectly fair to Gen Y, it's not like they've been given too much of a chance.
      • CiXeL, on 05/21/2008, -6/+7gen Y has no culture because they have had such a cushy existance that there has been no need to create culture.

        culture develops in response to adversity and gen Y living with their parents during one of the wealthiest periods in the country's history have never needed to fight or rebel against anything and have received everything they have ever asked for.

        struggle makes culture and gen Y has never experienced struggle.
        of course they may make the largest cultural contributions yet as their cushy world collapses in an economic crash and dealing with their world coming apart at the seams.
        • ThePenrod, on 05/21/2008, -4/+5Wow, yeah Gen Y has it cushy with September 11th, the Iraq war, the Patriot Act and rampant anti-Muslim ethnocentrism.
        • jcm267, on 05/21/2008, -4/+15Shut the ***** up. Gen X had it easy, too. You didn't exactly grow up during the depression. You grew up in the era of hair bands, the mall, Reagan, and stupid brat pack movies. The most troublesome generational problems involved just saying no and latchkeys.
        • HouseofEl, on 05/21/2008, -3/+2I guess HIV/AIDS and nuclear war with the Soviet Union weren't troublesome enough?
        • jcm267, on 05/21/2008, -2/+9No, they weren't, El. Most people weren't affected by AIDS and we never had a nuclear war with the USSR. Gen X and Gen Y have had it easy. The Boomers were drafted into a war and some of them grew up not even having basic civil rights, and their parents grew up in the depression and then went to fight an unimaginable war against major world powers.
        • Spudster, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3I think both Generation X and Y have little reason to bitch compared to the struggles of the Boomers...

          One distinction is that Generation Y will have a much easier time economically than Generation X because they are entering the workforce at the same time the Boomers are retiring.
      • enderu, on 05/21/2008, -2/+10These stupid generational comparisons are rarely based on who made something, but rather which generation embraced the new thing. Clearly the www wasn't made by generation Y, but there's no denying Gen Y took it and made it their own.
    • rollerboy, on 05/21/2008, -4/+2Thank you very much. *Clap*Clap*Clap*
    • negativenancy, on 05/21/2008, -0/+8And where the hell did Generation Y come from anyways? I prefer Generation LOL
    • headzoo, on 05/21/2008, -3/+18Everything you mentioned was created by Gen X'ers, or generations before.
      • ChromeWalnut, on 05/21/2008, -0/+9and every negative thing mentioned in the article was created by previous generations as well...
        • 4d669, on 05/21/2008, -4/+2Yeah but try to run The Hills on TV during the 90s. It would have zero rating and NOBODY would ever believe it was a reality show, they would get sued and assassinated for that crap. This generation is the one that sucks so bad that they actually buy the stupid ***** and love it.
        • Spudster, on 05/21/2008, -1/+3You really think that? Keep in mind Generation X embraced MTV and the consumerism of the 80's to begin with...
      • FreakeeOutee, on 05/21/2008, -0/+0See that statement is misleading because its like saying "Guitars have been around for 5000 years, so NIN didn't really affect culture directly...."
    • seantubridy, on 05/21/2008, -2/+12The internet? You're saying that was created by someone born after 1981? Yeah, other than youtube and reddit, none of those things were created by Gen Y people - they're only used by them.
      • headzoo, on 05/21/2008, -1/+5The people who created YouTube were all born in the 70's. Even they're Gen X'ers. In fact -- except for reddit -- every service the user mentioned was created by people that are 30+.
    • lead2thehead, on 05/21/2008, -4/+8If the only things you can name are websites, you're proving this article right.
      • Enasni1212, on 05/21/2008, -3/+1If you think that websites aren't going to be more important than movies and TV shows, then you're proving this article wrong.
    • JackOCat, on 05/21/2008, -2/+8Yep this article is the modern day equivalent to "In my day... blah blah"

      Anyone to close minded to understand what the new generations are up to is just flying towards their grave in the passing lane.
    • Jpardue, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3Dugg for the fact that of all the pictures on that page the Digg algorithm picked the stripper!!
      • Spudster, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1The user who submits the article picks the picture based on a selection of images on that page, not the algorithm...
    • ZenMojo, on 05/21/2008, -6/+5Gen X-ers are responsible for leg warmers, boy bands, and now they're trying to take credit for hip-hop,which the Baby Boomers invented. GTFO.

      Gen X-ers contributed angst and self-loathing to the national dialogue and that's pretty much it. Good luck with that.
    • sickanimations, on 05/21/2008, -1/+5I think it's fair to say that 'generation y' contributed significantly to the success of such revolutions in communication and technology. They adapt and embrace these new technologies whereas boomers and Xs are less inclined to change their ways.

      Don't forget that generation y are the first generation in a world that finally considers the environment important - where sustainability actually matters.
      • drugged, on 05/23/2008, -0/+1Sustainability, yeah, that's Gen X too (and earlier even).
    • ryanherb, on 05/21/2008, -1/+1but i'm soooooo emo....
  • kathleenmaher, on 05/21/2008, -6/+148Okay, I'm old--shy of X, late for a boomer. BUT you guys are young! Give yourselves time. You want great art? Defining culture? Unless you're talking about really pop stuff, it takes time. I agree with those claiming YouTube, Wiki, www. blogs, Photoshop; they're big stuff, especially if you lived much of your life without 'em. But still, meaningful art's gotta gel. When it's first happening, especially maybe in music, it might be fun or feel thrilling, but you can't tell how beautiful or significant it's gonna be for who knows how long. Besides, who says it's gotta be a generation thing?
    • Standup101, on 05/21/2008, -7/+8It's the house that "GEN X" built...
    • kroft, on 05/21/2008, -0/+7I was gonna say exactly that, so instead I'll just give you a big, fat digg-up.

      *applause*
    • 1aPowerDigger, on 05/21/2008, -4/+3Lol @ photoshop. Gen Y? Uh, no.
    • TomMcStephenson, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2THANK YOU.

      There have been some very good contributions by generation y, you just have to read between the lines more than with gen x. that being said, gen x has had ample time to show their “diamonds in the rough”. I’m a Gen Y-er, and while a lot of content sucks, there’s been some good (The Strokes? Eragon? Scrubs and The Office?) and i think with time Generation Y might do some good things
    • raptordrew, on 05/21/2008, -0/+13We have our porn! That's art, right?
    • ThePenrod, on 05/21/2008, -1/+16I just find it funny that the article is beating up on a generation for not producing culturally significant artistic and literary movements; and yet half of Gen Y is still in elementary school.
      • tech42er, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3God damn it! When do these generations begin and end? If you're born i the 80's and come of age in the 90's, that's Gen Y, right? And if you're born in the 90's and come of age in the 00's, is that also Gen Y?
        • ThePenrod, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Gen Y is generally accepted to be births between 1982-2001. Gen X births started around the late 60s or early 70s.
        • saranagati, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3Gen X started between 58/65 as the children of baby boomers and lasted all the way to 75/81. Gen Y started in 81/82 and are defined as the people born in the age of a personal computer. The next generation is said to have came somewhat early making gen y a relatively small generation. After gen y is the millennial's which is post 2001 due to the WTC attacks and living in an age of terrorism or fear or whatever.
    • virtualball, on 05/21/2008, -0/+7To say that all of this was brought on by Gen X is ridiculous. That's like saying the 60s generation can't use the Beatles to define their generation because thy were inspired by Elvis. Wikipedia and YouTube are huge advancements. We're living in an era where I could ask you who the King of England was in 1643 and you could find it instantly. Also, we live in a world where someone in China can film "rainbow earthquake clouds" and us in America could see it 10 minutes later. In fact, for pretty much the first time in history, the people can control the media. Look at Digg! We now have the power to look for our own entertainment and that has never been done before. Give it time, I'm sure in 1983, people didn't say "we'll be defined by our ***** music and workout clothes!" :P
    • Spudster, on 05/21/2008, -0/+7I think Generation Y is much more optimistic than Generation X. Generation Y has the right to feel a sense of entitlement because they will be inheriting the world of jobs lost by baby boomers. Generation X'ers are jealous that there was no meaningful employment for them because the boomers stole it all.

      Generation Y has been brought up with more access to information than any other generation, and I think they defining themselves with technology and information. I honestly think they are the most culturally and politically aware generation ever because of their access to information.
    • Hangly, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2If you have a generational identity crisis, you're X.
  • blackjack75, on 05/21/2008, -2/+157So.. just so we don't panic when the time comes. I can see the next genertion will be generation Z but what then?

    I think the guy who came up with the generations naming-scheme wasn't very forward-looking.
    • kp2575, on 05/21/2008, -1/+32we are so screwed...
      • cyberwiz01, on 05/21/2008, -1/+20It doesn't matter since the world is ending in 2012 anyways.
      • delafere, on 05/21/2008, -6/+32112 actually.
        • MeHow, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2Man i bought that record like 5 years ago, and thought it was the *****....
          two months ago I played it to hear the greatness of it... and well to be honest it sucked, sure rush has some good flicks, but ***** that album sucks... and i finally realized why they well never get into the rock and roll hall of fame...
          there lame
        • ChillEnt, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3Rush reference....you are awesome.
        • brian4572, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2Rush!!!! beat that Y
        • brian4572, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2Rush!!!! Beat that Y
    • rjc5056, on 05/21/2008, -8/+3You must have missed that day in marketing class when they went over generation names. The generation after Y is called Gen Z (or New Silent Generation) but after 96 we get into Generation I or sometimes iGeneration beacuse these kids have lived their whole life with accessible internet and have a ton of electronic knowhow. I personally believe whoever cooks up these names also called them that for their propensity to be spoiled ***** and such that only seem to care about themselves based on the trend the Gen Z kids are setting.
    • saxreturns, on 05/21/2008, -0/+13How about we start again with the Greek or Cyrillic alphabets?
      • MeHow, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2Haha that would be awsome, something out of Brave New World
    • kroft, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4Clearly, it's the end of the world as we know it. I mean, the person who invented the naming scheme for-told a long forgotten prophecy of massive, degenerating biblical proportions! THE WORLD WILL END ON THE BIRTH OF THE FIRST GENERATION POST GEN-Z!

      ...either that or we can go with a2, b2, c2, etc and call it even.
      • KSUdesigner, on 05/21/2008, -1/+1For-told? Really? I think Gen Y could really benefit from a dictionary.
      • TaintedWisdom, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Snap, you sank my destroyer!
        (hope everyone gets the reference...) :)
    • sovereign3, on 05/21/2008, -0/+31Sounds like a looming Y2Z crisis.
    • amadeusdemarzi, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Was probably a gen x'r :)
    • RedSaber, on 05/21/2008, -1/+4The next generation is "Generation Einstein".

      I thought they were the generation "millenial", but it seems that term in english is refering to the Y.

      You can read more about it there:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Einstein

      I also invite you to read that beautiful table about the differences between the Xs and the Ys.
      • 4d669, on 05/21/2008, -1/+1You are an idiot if you think they will actually call it that. This is the main problem with wikipedia... and with Gen Y...
    • bwdd, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Maybe we can name them - like hurricanes.
      Then go back to A.
    • Sawta, on 05/21/2008, -0/+13Easy, Generation AA, then AB, etc. Eventually you can have Oddly named generations, like generation Cat.
    • TR41NWR3CK, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2I thought there was a Pepsi Generation th