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First ever size 16 girl reaches Miss England final
dailymail.co.uk — A 16-year-old girl tipped to be the next Sophie Dahl has become the first size 16 model to be selected as a finalist for the Miss England competition.
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- McGrude, on 03/22/2008, -244/+544She's a full figured woman, rather than a stick figure. Good for her.
- Alix7, on 03/22/2008, -98/+356Watch all the fatties Digg this up.
- ryuujinusa, on 03/22/2008, -47/+26Hahaha, I was going to say that. She's fat AND unattractive.
- floorman56, on 03/22/2008, -6/+50And she STILL wouldn't have sex with you!
- ryuujinusa, on 03/26/2008, -0/+1Quoting alix7 again, watch all the fatties Digg this up. All my negatives and your wisea$$ comment proves it.
- floorman56, on 03/22/2008, -6/+50And she STILL wouldn't have sex with you!
- frooo, on 03/22/2008, -18/+7Can you say... Camel Toe?
- Fordi, on 03/22/2008, -2/+10Can you say... 16?
- kronix2, on 03/22/2008, -0/+516 is the age of consent in England. That makes her cameltoe fair game.
- xptoast, on 03/22/2008, -0/+316 in England? No way. Seriously? That is quite interesting.
- DaHuuuuuudge, on 03/23/2008, -0/+1It's 16 in lots of the US as well. So many people seem to think it's 18 in all the states.
- Fordi, on 03/22/2008, -2/+10Can you say... 16?
- xptoast, on 03/22/2008, -5/+19I am a 22 yr old man that weighs 130 and I think this woman looks great. Yay for a bit of meat. Sadly my metabolism wont let me gain any. So me no fattie and I digg it up.
- MonkCanatella, on 03/22/2008, -6/+1Weird.
- ryuujinusa, on 03/22/2008, -47/+26Hahaha, I was going to say that. She's fat AND unattractive.
- mywhitenoise, on 03/22/2008, -47/+159Good for her? I always thought being lean, and healthy was the ideal. Don't get me wrong, I love meat on my girls, but I hate sitting on the bus next to people that are a little bigger than this chick.
- McSploogins, on 03/22/2008, -32/+76There's a huge difference between lean and healthy and a "stick figure." In fact, this girl is probably more healthy than most of the models that don't eat or the little bit of celery they do eat, they throw up.
- mywhitenoise, on 03/22/2008, -16/+47I never said "stick figures" were the lean ideal.
- AntzNZ, on 03/22/2008, -5/+37And McGrude was talking about stick figures, and you were responding to him.
- Hraes, on 03/22/2008, -14/+11Near-total lack of muscle is unhealthy.
- juliolarri, on 03/22/2008, -1/+17even the fattest person in the world has muscles, the same quantity as any other normal person
- rrbest, on 03/22/2008, -2/+8someone's been watching discovery
- thunderer, on 03/22/2008, -0/+11Wouldn't they actually have more muscle than a similarly active slim person due to the increased weight they move around all day?
- betterth, on 03/22/2008, -16/+26She's probably a lot less healthy than most models you see out there though. Most models eat appropriately and exercise religiously. They cannot have beautifully muscled, toned bodies if they eat like *****. They know this. Sure, plenty of models ***** around but you're right, they look like stick figures.
This girl has a lot of weight, and before ANYONE defends her I'd love to see her body fat percentages, etc. She just doesn't look healthy to me. She has a lot of superfluous weight that just looks like a burden to her body.- RobotBuddha, on 03/23/2008, -0/+3Thank you. The anorexic model, while still popular in some areas, isn't the norm anymore. The norm is what someone gets from living a life of moderation in food intake, and exercising a similar amount to our nomadic ancestors. But moderation is hard, and it's easier to just assume that eating is an all or nothing game.
- mywhitenoise, on 03/22/2008, -16/+47I never said "stick figures" were the lean ideal.
- bazuden, on 03/22/2008, -26/+66i think she's hot
- grimward, on 03/22/2008, -7/+9Indeed, and very cute to boot ;)
- Flump5000, on 03/22/2008, -6/+10hey man, you into horse porn?
- grimward, on 03/22/2008, -7/+9Indeed, and very cute to boot ;)
- moofer, on 03/22/2008, -26/+15no fat chicks
- stankinaz, on 03/22/2008, -13/+2LOL! Man I miss those warning stickers. They used to make me laugh seeing them on the back windows of cars.
- remccain, on 03/22/2008, -15/+8Life's too short to ***** fat chicks.
- Spuy767, on 03/22/2008, -8/+22Keep in mind Marilyn Monroe was a size 12-14.
- bowe, on 03/22/2008, -1/+27But wasn't that before the invention of things like size 0, and size -1, etc? I think it was GAP that figured out if you give a women a size 12 and tell her it's a size 8, she's more willing to buy it. The sizing system for women is now totally messed up, just rely on your eyes. I can visually tell that Monroe's not overweight, even by today's standards.
- gthyb, on 03/22/2008, -5/+4You figured that one out visually, huh?
- Idalaide, on 03/22/2008, -1/+12That's only technically true. By todays standards I'm around a size 6-8, but when I buy vintage clothes (like from the 70's) I have to go up to a size 11 or so. It's crazy how much sizes have inflated.
- RobotBuddha, on 03/23/2008, -0/+2Going by snopes http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/mmdress.asp she'd be about a 12. But dress size isn't the greatest measure. The stats listed by snopes = not fat.
- Nudar, on 03/22/2008, -9/+5Healthier? Hasn't science proven a direct correlation between eating fewer calories and living longer?
- zbarnett, on 03/22/2008, -1/+10yeah, once you get down to 0 Calories you live forever.
- Nudar, on 03/23/2008, -0/+3AP) For the first time, researchers have found evidence suggesting people may live longer by eating fewer calories each day, a dietary restriction that already has shown in experiments to extend the lives of laboratory animals by up to 40 percent.
Even if the evidence proves to be correct, it's unknown how much extra time people might live.
Laboratory studies for decades have shown that reducing the calories fed to lab mice and rats enabled the animals to live much longer, but the same effect has not been positively demonstrated in monkeys or in humans.
Now, George S. Roth and his colleagues at the National Institute on Aging say they have preliminary evidence that biological changes that help create super-aged rodents may also work in humans.
The biological markers - lower temperature, lower insulin levels and a steady level of a steroid hormone called DHEAS - all occur in restricted-diet rodents that live about 40 percent longer than fellow rodents on a normal diet, said Roth. The same biological markers have now been found in men who are living longest in a continuing study in Baltimore on aging.
"This means that the biological characteristics of animals that are on calorie-restricted diets seem to apply to longevity in people," Roth said.
But Roth, co-author of a study appearing Friday in the journal Science, said the results should be considered "preliminary" and he cautions that nobody should start starving in hopes of living longer. Instead, he said, the study gives only tantalizing hints that are worthy of further investigation about helping people to extend life.
Other experts said the study offers new hope about science some day finding ways to slow aging and extend life.
"The study doesn't absolutely prove anything, but it suggests that the same mechanisms that operate in calorie-restricted animals can operate in humans," said Stephen R. Spindler, a human lifespan researcher at the University of California, Riverside. "It increases the likelihood that we will find pharmaceuticals that will mimic this effect."
Roth and his co-authors drew their preliminary conclusions from the combination of studies on aging rodents, a 15-year-old study on aging monkeys, and the continuing project called the Baltimore Longitudinal Study of Aging, which follows the lifespan of people.
The monkey study, conducted at the National Institute of Aging, is designed to test the longevity effects of calories restriction. It started in 1987, but Roth said that since Rhesus monkeys can live for 25 years, it may take another four or five years before the results are final. Statistically, at least half of the monkeys will have to complete their normal lifespan before the data is considered significant, said Roth.
The same is true of the Baltimore study on aging people.
But Roth said he and his team gathered preliminary conclusions by looking at early trends in the deaths of both the monkeys and the men. The researchers also divided men in the Baltimore study into two groups based on measurements of the key biomarkers - temperature, insulin and DHEAS levels - that were characteristic of the super-aged lab rodents.
Roth said the men whose biomarkers were similar to those of the calorie-restricted, long-lived rodents were dying at a much slower rate than were men with other biomarker measurements. Roth said none of the Baltimore study's men are known to be on restricted diets, but clearly some are enjoying the same lifespan benefit that calorie restriction gave the laboratory animals and researchers are not sure why.
"Whatever it is, they have those biological characteristics and they seem to live longer," said Roth. "It looks like that if you have any one of those markers, it is good for a couple of extra years."
In the monkeys, Roth said those on reduced feeding since the study started are dying at a rate that is about half that of the monkeys receiving a full food ration. He said all of the animals are fed the same nutritionally balanced chow, but the longer-lived group gets 30 percent less.
Although the findings suggested that a diet restriction of 30 percent or 40 percent could extend life, Roth said, "This is not practical for most people" and could be unhealthy.
Instead, he said the aging studies may lead to finding drugs that could mimic the effects and lifespan benefits of calorie restriction.
Spindler agreed, saying the study by Roth and his colleagues "gives us reason to hope."
- McSploogins, on 03/22/2008, -32/+76There's a huge difference between lean and healthy and a "stick figure." In fact, this girl is probably more healthy than most of the models that don't eat or the little bit of celery they do eat, they throw up.
- sockpuppets, on 03/22/2008, -37/+210She took mai cheezburger.
- zyryx, on 03/22/2008, -17/+53she took EVERYONEZ cheezburger
- sonofblacula, on 03/22/2008, -22/+9Dugg you down becuase lolcats are destroying the english language.
- itsthebrod, on 03/22/2008, -6/+15I thought illegal aliens were doing that?
- frooo, on 03/22/2008, -1/+6Lets just hope the new president (whoever it may be) legalizes aliens.
I want ALF for Vice president!- FatLoser, on 03/22/2008, -1/+13holy *****, an alf reference in 2008...
- Flump5000, on 03/22/2008, -7/+1actually its "mah cheezburger".
- fearlessfx, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3fo shizzle mah nizzle
- Alix7, on 03/22/2008, -38/+156More people are dying from obesity and heart disease than from being to thin
- wipis, on 03/22/2008, -17/+23true but women develop eating disorders that shorten their life too. And for that matter reduce their quality of life. A friend of mine can't eat half her favorite foods anymore.
- bencefeher, on 03/22/2008, -8/+14This chic is still fat.
- bowe, on 03/22/2008, -2/+7Actually, there was a recent study saying that people who eat less live longer. Look at the japanese as a good example. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/08/01/health/m ...
- rigorious, on 03/22/2008, -0/+8@ bowe
I think the difference in this case is eating sushi or vomiting in the bathroom.
- argo2d, on 03/22/2008, -6/+28i'm almost certain that's not true. If you're talking about the western world where we are gluttonous and spoiled, I'll agree. But more than half the world live on about $5 a day and there are way more people starving to death than keeling over from obesity. Although I guess I'm not really arguing against you because it just makes it all the sadder that obesity is such a huge problem in the rich countries
- crossmr, on 03/22/2008, -4/+17Those people aren't thin by choice. More people who have the choice die from being fat than too thin.
- JEWestbrookJR, on 03/22/2008, -7/+7I'm reasonably lean now, but I didn't get that way until I was 20. I'm only 23 now, so I'm really sensitive to people talking like this. Nobody chooses to be fat. Just like any other type of addict, they become emotionally dependent on the chemicals released in their systems from enjoying eating. Some people don't even have the ability to sense when they are full. A lot of people eat to fill a void in their life. But nobody does it to be fat, or even really thinks about it contributing to their weight as they are eating. Being fat is just the consequences of their actions. It's easy to say "just stop eating so much bad food" when you haven't been there before. As far as the contestant in the story goes, I'm glad that she has this opportunity. She is very pretty and her confidence is even more attractive. I hope people will take this opportunity to have personality also play a role in choosing who wins these pageants. Because have you listened to the regular every day pageant queen? Dumb as rocks. Yet for some reason, they always ask the contestants questions as if the decision will be made based on that. Maybe it's for comedy value?
- crossmr, on 03/22/2008, -0/+4I'm not thin, I was when I was younger, but a job in IT and a blown ankle will do that to a guy. I'm on my way to being thin again. No one does it because they want to be fat, but they don't stop doing it. Very few people are genuinely overweight because they have a bad thyroid. Beyond that get some damn help if you can't do it yourself.
- crossmr, on 03/22/2008, -4/+17Those people aren't thin by choice. More people who have the choice die from being fat than too thin.
- Scruffydan, on 03/22/2008, -9/+38well she isn't obese (far from it) so I am not sure what you are getting at.
- CaMason, on 03/22/2008, -11/+8I'd love to see what her BMI is, and then see if she's clinically obese.
- Xelseragoth, on 03/22/2008, -2/+17Her BMI is 25.3 which puts her JUST overweight (25), and not even close to obese (30).
- MoofTheStoof, on 03/22/2008, -0/+33BMI is a horrible way to gauge health.
- Xelseragoth, on 03/22/2008, -0/+13To MoofTheStoof: Very very true, but its a whole lot better gauge of health than all the people here arbitrarily saying "OMG she is obese, she is promoting irresponsible health!"
- Spuy767, on 03/22/2008, -0/+9@moof Agreed, when i was 17, i was 6'0" and 235. Our school health "professional" told me that I was overweight. and that my BMI was 37. My actual body fat at the time was probably under 10%. People have got this idea in their heads that BMI and weight are always directly proportionate, and that is simply no the case.
- hoboghost, on 03/22/2008, -0/+26' and 235 pounds? Would make your BMI 31.9
- crossmr, on 03/22/2008, -0/+2@xelseragoth - she's borderline, but she's being cast as a fat girl doing well in a beauty pageant. She *looks* fat compared to the other contestants, as opposed to if she had a BMI on the other end of the healthy scale. All this does is tell little fat girls its okay because people will still think they're pretty.
- crossmr, on 03/22/2008, -0/+3@spuy - unless you were ripped I doubt your body fat was under 10%. I was 5'10 and 160 lbs in grade 10 with an 8% bodyfat with an athletic cut. you have 2 inches and 75 lbs on that.. you'd have to have been so ripped your health professional would have to have the eysight of a civil war vet to make that mistake.
- stankinaz, on 03/22/2008, -9/+6You and her should lay off the doughnuts, hubba bubba.
- CaMason, on 03/22/2008, -11/+8I'd love to see what her BMI is, and then see if she's clinically obese.
- makis, on 03/22/2008, -1/+5so what? we should all live forever or we should live and be happy?i don't wanna live 1 hundred year if that means stop eating good food i like, drinking beer, smoke when i feel like that and so on... i don't know you.being healthy is much more than not having diseases.
- RobotBuddha, on 03/23/2008, -0/+2Everyone has different values that give their life meaning. A lot would agree with you about the food angle. A lot of other people don't consider meals a very significant part of their lives. For the smoking angle though, come on. The only reason that's on the list is because you're technically a drug addict. You might as well say that a life without meth shouldn't be considered healthy because of all the mental anguish that comes from not being able to get a hit.
- makis, on 03/23/2008, -0/+1i'm not one who eat a lot.i'm 1.80 (meters) 78 kg (i'm too lazy today to do some convertion)
i've been an athlet until some years ago
i used to run the 1.500 meters and i was a volleybal player
said that.i'm only saying that being halthy it's a UK/US addiction.European like italians or spanish are not that worried of being healthy.proabably cause our diet is so much beter by default.and we don't live less or worse than them...and about the smoke part.it's not a sigarete that will kill me.or propably it will, one day.but it's not being worried to die that i will have a better life.
- makis, on 03/23/2008, -0/+1i'm not one who eat a lot.i'm 1.80 (meters) 78 kg (i'm too lazy today to do some convertion)
- RobotBuddha, on 03/23/2008, -0/+2Everyone has different values that give their life meaning. A lot would agree with you about the food angle. A lot of other people don't consider meals a very significant part of their lives. For the smoking angle though, come on. The only reason that's on the list is because you're technically a drug addict. You might as well say that a life without meth shouldn't be considered healthy because of all the mental anguish that comes from not being able to get a hit.
- EmailAddress, on 03/22/2008, -3/+216 is the new 0
- wipis, on 03/22/2008, -17/+23true but women develop eating disorders that shorten their life too. And for that matter reduce their quality of life. A friend of mine can't eat half her favorite foods anymore.
- sinurgy, on 03/22/2008, -30/+78I love how people always throw out how at least so and so is not a "stick" or a "fattie" (depending on which side of the fence they're on) as if there isn't anything in between. This girl is pretty IMHO but she's definitely obese (look at the cankles) and there is plenty of room for her to shrink without being a "stick figure". Just like asking one of those "stick figures" to put on some weight doesn't mean they should add 100lbs.
Moderation people, learn it and live it!!- Xelseragoth, on 03/22/2008, -13/+28She is 176 pounds, 5 ft 10 inches tall. Look it up, this puts her just overweight, and not even close to obese. I have no idea how you are being dugg up thinking this incredibly attractive girl is "definitely obese." And yeah, it is crap like this that makes these girls lose way more weigth than is healthy for them. Think about it, if she thought she was (or looked) obese because thats what she is told, then she will lose tons of weight to get her to normal (which would be underweight because she is over shooting). Now, if she knew that she is just slightly clinically overweight, and is told by a responsible doctor, she might only try to lose the 10 or 20 pounds that would put her into being very healthy...
- betterth, on 03/22/2008, -13/+7Even still -- models are supposed to be the epitome of attractiveness. "Overweight" is not attractive. Period.
I work out, I work out hard to keep my body in-shape. I'm supposed to appreicate people who don't/won't? I'm supposed to find overweight people attractive? ***** that, make healthy decisions or don't. But be prepared to live with the consequences if you don't. And that includes being "overweight" and thus, "unattractive". - Spuy767, on 03/22/2008, -6/+8she is very slightly overweight, if she lost maybe 15 lbs she's be absolutely gorgeous. I still think she's very attractive, then again, I've always preferred thick broads.
- makis, on 03/22/2008, -1/+7who said overweight is not attractive?some magazine like Men's Health?
- duser4, on 03/22/2008, -2/+7176lb and 5'10 is not necessarily "just overweight". BMI is meant to be used as a guideline not as the definition of healthy. There are other factors. Age is definitely a factor. Look at her legs. Those are not muscle, they're FAT built up. I think she's passed "JUST" overweight.
- TheJokerV, on 03/22/2008, -1/+7Agreed, much better guage of health is body fat percentage.
- betterth, on 03/22/2008, -13/+7Even still -- models are supposed to be the epitome of attractiveness. "Overweight" is not attractive. Period.
- Xelseragoth, on 03/22/2008, -13/+28She is 176 pounds, 5 ft 10 inches tall. Look it up, this puts her just overweight, and not even close to obese. I have no idea how you are being dugg up thinking this incredibly attractive girl is "definitely obese." And yeah, it is crap like this that makes these girls lose way more weigth than is healthy for them. Think about it, if she thought she was (or looked) obese because thats what she is told, then she will lose tons of weight to get her to normal (which would be underweight because she is over shooting). Now, if she knew that she is just slightly clinically overweight, and is told by a responsible doctor, she might only try to lose the 10 or 20 pounds that would put her into being very healthy...
- spudnic, on 03/22/2008, -21/+83I'm all for improving people's self-confidence, but promoting being overweight (which sorry, but she is) is just as dangerous as promoting being stick thin, if not more dangerous, because so many people already have a problem with being overweight.
- jmpeagle, on 03/22/2008, -19/+9also, since UK has a nationalize healthcare system...doesn't this promote fiscal irresponsibility? Why should the tax payers subsidize fat people's poor nutritional decisions?
- blate, on 03/22/2008, -4/+11Because fat people also pay taxes
- phenom2k7, on 03/22/2008, -12/+6Yea, the fat ***** are draining the system. If I were a doctor I'd be gutted having to do stomach staples all the time.
- bowe, on 03/22/2008, -2/+1Which is why national healthcare would be such an absolute disaster for the United States. As a tax payer I don't want to subsidize the unhealthy habits of the millions of obese in the United States, that are almost destined to develop diabetes and heart disease.
- makis, on 03/22/2008, -2/+2shut up!"fisical irresponsibility".... do you know what are you talking about??does she look sick? and FYI... UK made Mick Jagger a "Sir".What an example for fisical responsibility...
- jemka, on 03/22/2008, -5/+9Thank you. It's hard to boost a person's, especially girls, self confidence AND help them fix their weight problem. And please don't tell me that you're healthy if you THINK you look good. Trust me, if your body could talk, it wouldn't say you were healthy.
- roflbrothel, on 03/22/2008, -5/+3Actually, it's worse than being skinny. Much worse.
- yingjai, on 03/22/2008, -2/+7being overweight is just as bad as being underweight
- bowe, on 03/22/2008, -3/+4A good example that overweight girls should shoot for is Laetitia Casta. She's probably only 15-20 lbs lighter than this girl. You don't have to be razor thin, just try to get in shape and be healthy. This is achieved not through starvation, but through exercise and eating healthy.
http://usemycomputer.com/indeximages/women/Laetiti ...- boombye, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3Try 50lbs lighter. This chick looks like about 125lbs, the size 16 chick is 175...
- Stevethegreat, on 03/22/2008, -1/+5I think there's lot misinformation regarding the relation between weight and health. Most of the times things are not clearcut.
The only condition that has been clinically proved to be detrimental to one's health is to be obese, in fact -surprisingly so- recent studies showed that overweight people (NOT obese) have more resistance to certain diseases and in fact -even- have less chances for certain cancers than normal people. As for the underweight people, it has been shown over and over again that those practicing calorie restriction even if they are underweight are in a fact A LOT healthier than most people of their age and there's a real prospect (for them) to slow down aging (the only known method for now). Which drives me to the fact that it matters more to be healthy, (exercise moderately, eating right) than looking at your BMI, the fact that "normal" people (BMI 20-25, typically) showed no health improvements against the overweight or those on CR, tells us something, what's attractive is not necessarily healthy but -also- the opposite can be true.
- jmpeagle, on 03/22/2008, -19/+9also, since UK has a nationalize healthcare system...doesn't this promote fiscal irresponsibility? Why should the tax payers subsidize fat people's poor nutritional decisions?
- MrCrispyChicken, on 03/22/2008, -36/+20But, she's fat and ugly.
- DanOnTheMoon, on 03/22/2008, -10/+14Gay. I'd hit it.
- prophetpimp, on 03/22/2008, -11/+10True Dat but i still hit it.
- stunna, on 03/22/2008, -12/+6I don't know why you were getting dugg down.
Your statement is accurate. - rrbest, on 03/22/2008, -8/+5Bad teeth, Bad weight.. good hair? wtf? and since when did the average sized girl have double ds?
- stankinaz, on 03/22/2008, -5/+4Well MrCrispyChicken, I'm sure this gorgeous lady would prefer popeyes chicken over kfc. What do you think?
- sonofblacula, on 03/22/2008, -6/+3Yeah, you're gay if you wouldn't tap it.
- jamesdew, on 03/22/2008, -24/+11THIS JUST IN!!
Ugly girl wins MS WORLD
Why should only attractive girls get to win ms world, it's just not fair.- stankinaz, on 03/22/2008, -6/+2Attractive girls win beauty contest, because they are hot.
- nonymous666, on 03/22/2008, -16/+32Full figured woman still have a figure. Looks like she's gone beyond that.
- humanerror, on 04/03/2008, -16/+63In her acceptance speech, she accused the judges of, quote, "STEALING MAH BUCKET"
- m0tbaillie, on 03/22/2008, -7/+1"STEALIN' MAH BUCKET OF CHIKIN!" *fixed
- EvilFerret, on 03/22/2008, -13/+9Am I the one noticing that her head is WAY too small for that body?
- divxrippimp, on 03/22/2008, -18/+11All i know is that bitch has a NICE FAT ASS, and bent over it would be a masterpiece... I would destroy...
- jimbob88, on 03/22/2008, -5/+3Sick
- sonofblacula, on 03/22/2008, -2/+4No, true. Digg this man up!
- frooo, on 03/22/2008, -2/+7Fat chicks are like scooters.
Fun to ride for awhile until your friends find out.... - roflbrothel, on 03/22/2008, -2/+2Yeah, I'm pretty sure her ass would destroy YOU.
- jimbob88, on 03/22/2008, -5/+3Sick
- JAGUART, on 03/22/2008, -4/+49Two Words: Swimsuit Competition.
- zyryx, on 03/22/2008, -9/+37well there goes my breakfast...
- doublebummer, on 03/22/2008, -16/+72Full figured? She's got more chins than a Chinese phone book.
- richgustavson, on 03/22/2008, -5/+12Meh. I like a woman with curves, but she's still fugly.
- chillio4breeze, on 03/22/2008, -5/+19It would be different if she was hot. Let's be real guys, look at that horse mouth.
- Professr, on 03/22/2008, -4/+3She's hot for an English girl.
- boombye, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2That's not saying a whole lot.
- Professr, on 03/22/2008, -4/+3She's hot for an English girl.
- TunaFishGangsta, on 03/22/2008, -12/+6Full-figured? Don't you mean FAT? Just give this girl 5 years, she'll be a size 32 and 400 pounds. I hate girls like this. You give them a french fry and they'll eat your whole hamburger on top of theirs, and then they want dessert.
At the LEAST this girl needs to become friends with "Mr. Ralph Finger" and call out his name everyday. Ralphhhh!!!!!- makis, on 03/22/2008, -2/+4i'm sure you look like Brad Pitt... isn'it?
- satanswetnipple, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1Only in his feeble mind.
- makis, on 03/22/2008, -2/+4i'm sure you look like Brad Pitt... isn'it?
- roflbrothel, on 03/22/2008, -11/+11Yeah, good for her! Way to be a fatass! Let's encourage people to get even fatter because, let's face it, we as a society just aren't fat enough! Yay diabetes! Yay cancer! Yay voracious consumption! ***** exercise! ***** healthy eating! ***** being healthy in general! Have another triple cheeseburger fatty!
- Idalaide, on 03/22/2008, -4/+7Her BMI is 25.3. That puts her at BARELY overweight. She may not be the epitome of attractiveness but she looks pretty darn healthy to me.
- joot2112, on 03/22/2008, -3/+4There is no way her BMI is 25.3. If that's true, then it's only because her height made the BMI an invalid index. BMI is not a very accurate measure of health.
- jim1977, on 03/22/2008, -3/+2She looks like she's just under 30.
- joot2112, on 03/22/2008, -3/+4There is no way her BMI is 25.3. If that's true, then it's only because her height made the BMI an invalid index. BMI is not a very accurate measure of health.
- Idalaide, on 03/22/2008, -4/+7Her BMI is 25.3. That puts her at BARELY overweight. She may not be the epitome of attractiveness but she looks pretty darn healthy to me.
- deanimate, on 03/22/2008, -5/+616 years old and she's already that fat?
she needs to get down the gym and pronto.
at the same time all those stick thin girls with their bones literally sticking out are repulsive.
balance is whats needed. bit of yin and yang. and once she's lost a few pounds she needs to learn some street fighter skills. girl probably cant dragon punch for *****. - jim1977, on 03/22/2008, -5/+3She has three chins, fake tan and droopy fat-boobs :(
Just no. - NonLeftistDiggr, on 03/22/2008, -3/+2Pretty good looking girl, but good for her for being overweight?
Drop the attractive part of the discussion, that weight is unhealthy. Bottom line. If you don't agree, I'm sorry but wake up, that's how the world is. - jdepp, on 03/22/2008, -2/+7Cut the negativity people! seriously. She's a few pounds overweight and she looks confident. Good for her.
Healthwise, self-esteem is as important as good diet and exercise.
.- jim1977, on 03/22/2008, -2/+3You have to be Barney the Dinosaur with feel good ***** like that. Health problems increase exponentially with weight. Obesity is the biggest killer in the west and the highest cost in healthcare.
The more you know, huh?
And about 50 excess pounds of flubber is not a few.- satanswetnipple, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3After reading so many of your sad comments, I definitely know you are an ignorant arsehole. So yo go to the gym, that does not make you an expert, it just tells us that you hang out with more than anyone's fair share of homosexual men (not that there is anything wrong with hanging out with homosexual men). How "open" of you.
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 03/29/2008, -0/+1It's called biology, I'd love to dismiss it too, but I can't.
- satanswetnipple, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3After reading so many of your sad comments, I definitely know you are an ignorant arsehole. So yo go to the gym, that does not make you an expert, it just tells us that you hang out with more than anyone's fair share of homosexual men (not that there is anything wrong with hanging out with homosexual men). How "open" of you.
- jim1977, on 03/22/2008, -2/+3You have to be Barney the Dinosaur with feel good ***** like that. Health problems increase exponentially with weight. Obesity is the biggest killer in the west and the highest cost in healthcare.
- RegalGSX, on 03/22/2008, -6/+1She's in perfect shape. Round is a shape.
- jim1977, on 03/22/2008, -3/+2I love the way you're getting buried for this - Digg sucks. Everybody's fat and reactionary and stupid.
Lowest common denominator GO! It's Yahoo message boards V2.0
- jim1977, on 03/22/2008, -3/+2I love the way you're getting buried for this - Digg sucks. Everybody's fat and reactionary and stupid.
- Alix7, on 03/22/2008, -98/+356Watch all the fatties Digg this up.
- mercimadam, on 03/22/2008, -86/+76She is beautiful and comfortable in her skin
- ucbmckee, on 03/22/2008, -43/+80I should hope so, she's got enough of it...
- superspud, on 03/22/2008, -10/+28Ohhh snap!
- frooo, on 03/22/2008, -4/+2I wonder who she ate to get that much skin...
- Ladymongoose, on 03/22/2008, -3/+1i shouldn't laugh but that was funny
- eschompthis, on 03/22/2008, -28/+10This is *****, pageants need to stay the same. Hot bodies no brain
- itsthebrod, on 03/22/2008, -3/+2Brains are fine, it's just that hot bodies should always remain the #1 priority. At least those are more difficult to come by and deserve something. You can walk down the street and see a gaggle of fat chicks. Why should they get a prize?
- rpguy, on 03/22/2008, -17/+3maybe a little too comfortable
- wurtis16, on 03/22/2008, -6/+7i would be comfortable in her skin
- Scaryclouds, on 03/22/2008, -7/+13So because she is overweight she is comfortable in her skin?
Maybe she is, may she isn't, either way I think it's pretty stupid to say just because a person is X then they are Y. - jim1977, on 03/22/2008, -7/+2"It rubs the lotion on its skin. It does this whenever it is told."
- Enron, on 03/22/2008, -4/+1I'm sure her skin isn't very comfortable on her though, with all those stretch marks.
- someuser90, on 03/23/2008, -2/+0I'd classify her in the amateur porn section.
- ucbmckee, on 03/22/2008, -43/+80I should hope so, she's got enough of it...
- Harboggles, on 03/22/2008, -79/+55Beautiful. I hope girls like her make it into Hustler some day. I'm sick of fapping to Paris Hilton wannabes.
- mywhitenoise, on 03/22/2008, -13/+45You know, there's plenty of porn sites that have BBW. God damn, dude. There's porn for every fetish imaginable.
- sockpuppets, on 03/22/2008, -5/+45I'm looking for a site that shows someone giving a reach-around to a spider monkey while reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. Can you help me out?
- nreynolds, on 03/22/2008, -6/+50pledgereacharoundspidermonkeyofallegiance.com - you really didn't know that one? noob.
- ehalasey, on 03/22/2008, -27/+18Since when is liking women with REAL bodies a fetish?
- jmpeagle, on 03/22/2008, -16/+40that's not a real body...that's a heart attack waiting to happern
- TecK415, on 03/22/2008, -2/+1Then is a healthy body a fake body?
- DanOnTheMoon, on 03/22/2008, -3/+4*****! I've been looking for porn featuring the Domino's Pizza Noid for years, and haven't found it.
- boombye, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2avoid the noid
- saisumimen, on 03/23/2008, -0/+1@DanOnTheMoon
Unfortunately I've seen it on /b/.
- Carthagefield, on 03/22/2008, -9/+3I hereby invoke rule 34 on 'fattyphilia'.
- sonofblacula, on 03/22/2008, -3/+1It's called chubby-chasing
Also, /r/ing girls cosplaying Princess Peach fapping Luigi on a midget cosplaying Toad's face.- Carthagefield, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3In before FAIL.
- sonofblacula, on 03/22/2008, -3/+1It's called chubby-chasing
- TecK415, on 03/22/2008, -0/+4My favorite is nugget porn. (A guy doing a chick who has no arms or legs). It never gets old.
- frasermoo, on 03/22/2008, -0/+4Nugget porn. I just cried.
- sockpuppets, on 03/22/2008, -5/+45I'm looking for a site that shows someone giving a reach-around to a spider monkey while reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. Can you help me out?
- cpugeek2214, on 03/22/2008, -8/+5Seriously, that was so unneeded.
- SpeshulEd, on 03/22/2008, -9/+2Dugg for 'fapping'
- Westford, on 03/22/2008, -1/+0Are you serious...
- mywhitenoise, on 03/22/2008, -13/+45You know, there's plenty of porn sites that have BBW. God damn, dude. There's porn for every fetish imaginable.
- fusen, on 03/22/2008, -144/+1014I dugg this only because of how ridiculous it is, for one, I'd put down a $1000 bet she won't win the final. Let's be realistic here...
Secondly, she simply doesn't look healthy, she looks obese, and no, don't jump on me saying "oh so would you prefer her to be stick thin" as that is NOT what I'm saying.
There is such a thing as a healthy weight, there IS such a weight that sits between stick thin and fat.And don't try and say this girl is "curvy" and "real women" and other such *****, if you slam skinny girls then just admit that this girl is quite fat.
Typical dross coming out of the dailymail. I swear they pay someone to spam digg with their articles as they keep popping up- evernerve, on 03/22/2008, -49/+13If only more of these healthy-weight people would be promoted by the media instead of starts and celebrities who torture themselves with painful diets to look unreal. And yep, she's fat, but so what. She has also gut a cute face.
- mywhitenoise, on 03/22/2008, -20/+27I'm a 22 year old male, around 5'8" and only weigh about 120 pounds. I don't torture myself with painful diets, and I could probably eat more than you. Don't assume someone "tortures" themselves just because they're thin. I can't stand fat people, they always make that obvious comment "Man, you're a twig!" Do you hear me saying "Man, you're a fatass!"?
- evernerve, on 03/22/2008, -8/+22Man, you're a midget.
- mywhitenoise, on 03/22/2008, -10/+17I think im about a foot and a half too tall to be a midget.
- silkysaul, on 03/22/2008, -0/+9Oh snaps,.. I am only 5'6 =(
Yep.. Mexican American.
- AntzNZ, on 03/22/2008, -6/+18I call ***** that most fat people call you a twig.
- TheCasablancan, on 03/22/2008, -1/+29Don't call that twig a liar.
- SatansSpatula, on 03/22/2008, -13/+11What?! I've been skinny my whole life, and goddamned fatties feel completely entitled to constantly tell me how I'm too thin, skinny, etc. I'm so sick of fatasses with their self-righteous comments. Pathetic, jealous jackasses...
- shoveitfatty, on 03/22/2008, -1/+4I'm also very thin, so is my mom...it's in my genes and it's not something I can really control. I don't know if you're thin or have ever been thin...but my mother and I get those sorts of comments all the ***** time. Nobody goes around calling fatties fat, but its completly acceptable to comment on how thin I am. Cool.
- frasermoo, on 03/22/2008, -3/+1stop talking to them.
- SatansSpatula, on 03/22/2008, -4/+15No idea why people are burying you. It's a fatass conspiracy. I'm a skinny bastard, too, and I've had to spend years in the gym and stuffing my gullet to overcome it. All because of mouthy, self-entitled fatasses who harrassed me my whole life.
- topoisomerase, on 03/22/2008, -8/+6aaand you're a douchebag.
- browwiw, on 03/22/2008, -4/+65'8", 120 lbs? Are you that guy from Chuck Palahniuk's short story "Guts"?
You must get your ass kicked all the time.
- evernerve, on 03/22/2008, -8/+22Man, you're a midget.
- crazykid596, on 03/22/2008, -6/+1if shes fat how is that a healthy-weight person. and some people dont need to torture themselves to be skinny, they just have fast metabolisms
- xCeramikx, on 03/22/2008, -2/+1I'm a 6'3" guy and this girl weighs the exact same as me. It can't be that hard to sacrifice that 3rd donut to lose a little weight and be more healthy. I don't even get regular exercise and I don't have trouble maintaining my weight by just watching my food intake, though a high metabolism doesn't hurt.
- browwiw, on 03/22/2008, -2/+2You're 6'3" and only weigh 128 lbs? Jesus, what are you? A cancer survivor?
You must get your reedly little ass kicked all the time. - xCeramikx, on 03/22/2008, -2/+2128? Um, no, the girl in the article is 176 lbs.
- browwiw, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2RFTA, she's 128 lbs.
- xCeramikx, on 03/22/2008, -2/+2RTFA She is 12 Stone, 8lbs. This converts to 176lbs.
- gh0st3000, on 03/23/2008, -1/+1Why is Ceramik being dugg down? He's completely correct. This is England, remember? Not the US. Use a little common sense, have you ever seen a teenage girl who weighs 128 lbs? She sure wouldn't look like this girl.
- browwiw, on 03/22/2008, -2/+2You're 6'3" and only weigh 128 lbs? Jesus, what are you? A cancer survivor?
- mywhitenoise, on 03/22/2008, -20/+27I'm a 22 year old male, around 5'8" and only weigh about 120 pounds. I don't torture myself with painful diets, and I could probably eat more than you. Don't assume someone "tortures" themselves just because they're thin. I can't stand fat people, they always make that obvious comment "Man, you're a twig!" Do you hear me saying "Man, you're a fatass!"?
- staffa, on 03/22/2008, -56/+25She is fat by the standards of our society. Even when we are trying to be opened minded about what a healthy weight actually is, we still can't escape our ingrained prejudices. It's kinda sad really.
She looks fat to me, but I am having trouble convincing myself that this isn't due to all the stick figures from which we are used to comparing woman too. Sure there is a room between her and the stick figures, but I don't think that means that is the only place healthy lies.
I think she is far more healthy then the stick figures and if she is in good shape then the extra fat is nothing but the reserve of energy it's meant to be.- KMartSheriff, on 03/22/2008, -10/+31Whatever you gotta tell yourself.
- ikillpeoplexx, on 03/22/2008, -12/+29No she's definitely fat. Fatty needs to lose some weight.
- kronso23, on 03/22/2008, -9/+21no dude, she's fat.
- Otto, on 03/22/2008, -8/+13Societal standards have nothing to do with it. The girl is fat. Sorry, but them's the facts.
There is a happy medium. Don't be too thin, but don't be too fat either. Be *NORMAL*.
- betterth, on 03/22/2008, -3/+11Societal norms?
Look at athletes. That is what we need to look like. Remember, before we all sat at a computer for the last hundred years, we all got off our asses and worked out doors. In terms of evolutionary history, the past, what four million years, humans spent 99.9% of it as either hunter gatherers, or farmers.
Our bodies are built to be lean and muscular, with low body fat.
This is unhealthy. Period.- XBSHX, on 03/22/2008, -1/+7We've had computers for 100 years?
- daRoach, on 03/22/2008, -1/+5Yeah, but we've only been sitting at them for the past 20 or so.
- XBSHX, on 03/22/2008, -1/+7We've had computers for 100 years?
- AriaStar, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3Fat is having more fat than is optimally healthy for your body. I used to be 400 pounds. That was fat. I got to 250. That was fat. 200, and I was still fat, 150, pushing it, 130, good. I'm 5'7", so am not speaking as a fat-hater. Look, it's nice to feel good about yourself, but you shouldn't trick yourself into thinking it's healthy.
- TheCasablancan, on 03/24/2008, -0/+1I don't mean to ridicule, or sound like an ass. I genuinely want to know the answer to my question. How do you get to be 400 lbs?
- AoiTakuma, on 03/22/2008, -45/+197She definitely does not look healthy. I immediately noticed her arms, healthy women that are curvy dont have arms like that, they should be more firm.
- Hraes, on 03/22/2008, -15/+7Thank you! Yes.
- browwiw, on 03/22/2008, -3/+2You obviously have only had sex with a Real Doll.
- Nick12307, on 03/23/2008, -2/+2or maybe you sleep with less attractive women?
- Chupacabra82, on 03/22/2008, -24/+9Is it me or does fusen come across as being real angry?
- mcmlxxii, on 03/22/2008, -1/+4Yeah he writes for the Guardian ;)
- BlueCadenza, on 03/22/2008, -37/+23Idiot. "although she is the average size for a woman, in the age of the size zero model she stands out." She is nowhere near obese lol. She is overweight, but we're looking at thigh weight here, which is the first place it comes on a female. (I only criticize that because its enough to make a person uncomfortable to carry out walking function) The rest of her looks FINE. Beautiful.
- SatansSpatula, on 03/22/2008, -6/+28Um, she most certainly *is* obese. Maybe not "morbidly" obese, but I guarantee you her bodyfat is well above 30%, which is the agreed cut-off for obesity.
- usaar33, on 03/22/2008, -1/+11Sh'e definitely not by BMI. The article claims she's 176 lbs at 5'10". At least by BMI that is slightly overweight. Then again, she might just be lying about her weight.
- TheJokerV, on 03/22/2008, -1/+4BMI is not body fat percentage.
- AriaStar, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2At 5'10" and 176 pounds, she'd have a BMI of 25.3. I'm a woman, so am used to seeing different weights and KNOWING what they are, and I don't think she's just 50 pounds more than me at 3" taller. I'm a size 1, she's a size 16 (which is about am American 12-14).
- usaar33, on 03/22/2008, -1/+11Sh'e definitely not by BMI. The article claims she's 176 lbs at 5'10". At least by BMI that is slightly overweight. Then again, she might just be lying about her weight.
- Gabberwok, on 03/22/2008, -3/+10You know that for all the people who say that anorexia is a dangerous problem for women these days, the truth is that far more of them will die from heart attacks and diabetes due to excessive weight than from anorexia nervosa.
- cphoover, on 03/22/2008, -3/+2more people die from anorexia/bulimia than any other mental illness, just saying not very intelligent comment:
"You know that for all the people who say that anorexia is a dangerous problem for women these days"
implying its not.
anyway yea i agree she is fat, and this is just a pr stunt.
what i want to know is who dugg this story up?- Gabberwok, on 03/30/2008, -0/+1If you classified overeating as a psychiatric disorder, far more women (and men) die of that. Anorexia is mainly paid attention to because it is a disorder that tends to strike wealthy white women. Telling obese women to be happy with their bodies and not to worry about their weight is a dangerous and foolish idea. I would not be surprised at all if that kind of counseling results in more indirect deaths than in prevents from anorexia.
- satanswetnipple, on 03/22/2008, -0/+2And lack of body weight leads to osteoporosis in women, lower immune system, lower sex drive, and malnutrition leads to lower IQs, under developed babies, liver damage, heart damage, lung damage... but none of that matters, because she is not "hot" by today's ideal. So lets run off the same old health conditions so we can claim the higher ground when we call them "fatties".
Grow up you virgins! - gh0st3000, on 03/23/2008, -0/+0@satanswetnipple
You know, there is a healthy zone in between overweight and malnourished anorexic. You don't jump straight from one to the other.
- cphoover, on 03/22/2008, -3/+2more people die from anorexia/bulimia than any other mental illness, just saying not very intelligent comment:
- SatansSpatula, on 03/22/2008, -6/+28Um, she most certainly *is* obese. Maybe not "morbidly" obese, but I guarantee you her bodyfat is well above 30%, which is the agreed cut-off for obesity.
- wipis, on 03/22/2008, -31/+18Until I hear so scientific or medical authority on her not being a healthy weight I refuse to believe that she is overweight or obese. I would guess she is over weight by 5-10 tops if at all. She is healthy big and beautiful.
I would face dive into her cleavage any day.- jaalin, on 03/22/2008, -4/+19her BMI is 25.3, which is 0.3 over the upper limit for 'healthy weight', putting her in the 'overweight' category (as springhell says below, by 2 pounds). that said, BMI is not a complete picture (albeit pretty good) of her health profile, which would include a comprehensive body fat measurement, cholesterol level, blood pressure, etc etc.
healthy, aerobically fit people sometimes do stray into the 'overweight' category due to the simplicity and overgeneralization of the calculation - however, this typically only applies to athletes who have a lot of muscle (heavier than fat). any woman who is eating a healthy, low fat diet and getting good aerobic exercise on a regular basis (maintain a heart rate of over ~75% of their max HR for 6+ hours a week) would likely not be anywhere near a BMI of 25. it is worrying, from a health and fitness perspective, that she is being glorified for being "overweight," especially considering her young age of 16.
that said, it is a _beauty_ contest, which is entirely subjective, unlike the objective nature of _physical health_. i think it's great that people are able to give her the recognition she deserves for being an attractive girl (both outside and i'm sure, inside), but from a medical and anthropological perspective, there's a reason why "skinny" (not anorexic) girls are seen as attractive - on the average, they are more healthy, and demonstrate more discipline in regards to diet and exercise.- smithchr, on 03/23/2008, -0/+2That may be a modern anthropological explanation for the attractiveness of a "skinny" person, but historically (and prehistorically) quite the opposite was true. A woman's wide hips with respect to her waist meant she would more likely be able to bear healthy babies to full term, but a little "meat on the bones" also meant she was well-fed enough to sustain a pregnancy and severe climates. In African cultures, weight/size was historically often a social signal of wealth: the wealthy ate more/richer foods. Sexual selection can lead to almost instinctual selection criteria in a mate, and weight is certainly a criteria by which we judge the attractiveness of a partner. I think there can be argument as to the root cause of lean vs. heavy (discipline, diet, exercise, or simply good genes) but your point is well taken that BMI is not a complete picture. Nor is anthropology a complete explanation for why humans find certain females attractive.
- rootneg2, on 03/24/2008, -0/+2yep.
It's only been in the last century or so that skinny has become attractive.
Look at the classic portrayals of Venus, who is supposed to be the *epitome* of feminine beauty and sexiness. Most "classic" beauties from only a few centuries prior would be deemed "overweight" by modern society.
- rootneg2, on 03/24/2008, -0/+2yep.
- smithchr, on 03/23/2008, -0/+2That may be a modern anthropological explanation for the attractiveness of a "skinny" person, but historically (and prehistorically) quite the opposite was true. A woman's wide hips with respect to her waist meant she would more likely be able to bear healthy babies to full term, but a little "meat on the bones" also meant she was well-fed enough to sustain a pregnancy and severe climates. In African cultures, weight/size was historically often a social signal of wealth: the wealthy ate more/richer foods. Sexual selection can lead to almost instinctual selection criteria in a mate, and weight is certainly a criteria by which we judge the attractiveness of a partner. I think there can be argument as to the root cause of lean vs. heavy (discipline, diet, exercise, or simply good genes) but your point is well taken that BMI is not a complete picture. Nor is anthropology a complete explanation for why humans find certain females attractive.
- jaalin, on 03/22/2008, -4/+19her BMI is 25.3, which is 0.3 over the upper limit for 'healthy weight', putting her in the 'overweight' category (as springhell says below, by 2 pounds). that said, BMI is not a complete picture (albeit pretty good) of her health profile, which would include a comprehensive body fat measurement, cholesterol level, blood pressure, etc etc.
- springhell, on 03/22/2008, -20/+30According to BMI, she is 2 pounds overweight.
- SatansSpatula, on 03/22/2008, -9/+31What she has is entirely fat! Look at those arms, there's no muscle under that flab.
- nextyoyoma, on 03/22/2008, -8/+2well, if there were NO muscle, she wouldn't be able to move....so I doubt that is true.
- MicroBerto, on 03/22/2008, -1/+4Satan is right. I'm originally from a cold part of the midwest, and there is a long winter where everyone bundles (and fattens) up a bit more. How can you tell who's in good shape and who's unfit?
The arms. They tell all.
- timdorr, on 03/22/2008, -6/+34BMI is a bunch of ***** anyways. I'm sure her body fat percentage is high, and that's the number that *really* counts.
- Picaroon, on 03/22/2008, -1/+10BMI is a horrible, horrible way of measuring someone's fitness or health. She's fat--that's all there is to it.
- Khangwin, on 03/22/2008, -0/+5BMI also implied that Emmit Smith was 10 pounds overweight. It isnt that reliable.
- SatansSpatula, on 03/22/2008, -9/+31What she has is entirely fat! Look at those arms, there's no muscle under that flab.
- walkea1, on 03/22/2008, -26/+12holy ***** you must not live in America because that girl is NOT FAT. Come to our fat ass country and you will see that girl is just basically normal. She's just not skinny. Look, if all you see is porn stars than you would think that she's fat, but you should check out the real world once in a while too please.
- bowe, on 03/22/2008, -1/+1Oblig. http://bp3.blogger.com/_0LoPTKjsdg0/Rqrdv6doyqI/AA ...
- univerio, on 03/22/2008, -1/+5$10 says you're fat.
- boombye, on 03/22/2008, -1/+1I'm from Chicago and I consider that fat, so whatever you say walkea, must be from wal-mart country or something.
- superspud, on 03/22/2008, -19/+14For the record: her Body Mass Index is 25.3
If memory serves me well, then a healthy BMI is between 18 and 25
Anything more than 25 is 'overweight'
More than 30 is obese.
On the other side of the scale if your BMI is less than 18 then you are underweight
Heh...- lamiaconfitor, on 03/22/2008, -7/+27BMI has been disproved as a useful tool. she is not incredibly fat, and I don't consider her to be obese, but don't use antiquated methods that are most comparable to numerology and pretend that you sound intelligent just because math is involved.
- LimeParrot, on 03/22/2008, -8/+13"BMI has been disproved as a useful tool."
Incorrect. BMI is not 100% accurate but it IS a 'useful tool'. It is a statistically established method of estimation that is used as a standard in many aspects of weight management and health. For example, if you have renal (kidney) impairment and the dose of your medications needs to be adjusted, guess what they use to calculate your IDEAL weight? Yep, your BMI. So yes, it's not perfect, but it most definitely is a useful tool.- brad3378, on 03/22/2008, -1/+11Why not use bodyfat percentage instead?
Example:
A 6 foot tall professional bodybuilder weighing in at 270 lbs
A 6 foot tall couch potato weighing in at 270 lbs
According to the BMI formula, each person has the same number.
According to body fat percentage numbers, the couch potato is a worthless fat *****.
- brad3378, on 03/22/2008, -1/+11Why not use bodyfat percentage instead?
- Gabberwok, on 03/22/2008, -1/+15BMI completely disregards muscle mass vs. fat, so it tends to exaggerate male weight problems and underestimate female ones (since men generally have a lower body fat %). As the person above says, that's also true for athletes vs. normal people - Arnold Schwarzenegger in his Terminator days would probably have had a BMI close to 30.
- satanswetnipple, on 03/22/2008, -1/+1You are correct on the surface, but the governator would have been accurately identified by BMI. Body builders do not build quality muscle, they build for mass, and that sort of mass has much higher fat content. Before showing body builders starve for a few days to burn off fat under the skin, but do not burn the fat in the muscle.
Useful muscle is muscle you cannot see. The strongest person I have ever met was a 60 year old that looked like skin and bones... he could lift 200lb and run up flights of stairs (no, not walking, really running). He lifted large weights all day every day for a job.
- satanswetnipple, on 03/22/2008, -1/+1You are correct on the surface, but the governator would have been accurately identified by BMI. Body builders do not build quality muscle, they build for mass, and that sort of mass has much higher fat content. Before showing body builders starve for a few days to burn off fat under the skin, but do not burn the fat in the muscle.
- Davers, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1I thought BMI was only supposed to be accurate for adults over 18?
- betterth, on 03/22/2008, -0/+3Never accurate, due to the fact that muscle weighs more than fat, so if you do any amount of working out, you appear on the BMI scale to be far more unhealthy than you really are.
- demonicume, on 03/22/2008, -36/+39obese? are you serious? obese involves wiggly bellies and droopy *****. attitudes like yours are why girls with a little weight on them kill themselves to drop it. the worst part is now this 'white boy' attitude is leaking into black culture where we appreciate a woman with some weight on her. she's friggin 5'10!
- mrjit, on 03/22/2008, -14/+6Little weight? She weighs the equivalent of 3 people.
- Xelseragoth, on 03/22/2008, -2/+10She weighs 176 pounds, what three people are you comparing her to? Vern Troyer?
- brad3378, on 03/22/2008, -6/+8That explains her 3 chins.
- betterth, on 03/22/2008, -5/+16I appreciate a healthy woman. Who eats moderately well, in moderation, and exercises regularly.
Coincidentally, I've never met a woman who respected all three of those rules and looked like this.- mcmlxxii, on 03/22/2008, -2/+8What's so coincidental about that?
- muchachoburacho, on 03/22/2008, -4/+3Yeah she's really not THAT big, i bet if you saw her in real life you wouldn't really think of her as fat. That being said, there is definitely a LOT between a stick figure and a size 16. I certainly would not put her as model quality.
- mrjit, on 03/22/2008, -14/+6Little weight? She weighs the equivalent of 3 people.
- magnetarc, on 03/22/2008, -5/+50She's sure to have a lot of momentum behind her in the UK
- Seth024, on 03/22/2008, -10/+17nice physics joke, but i think most computer geeks here didn't understand it.
- rrbest, on 03/22/2008, -2/+31I thought it was pretty obvious
- zyryx, on 03/22/2008, -4/+31the geeks did, it's the mouth breathing ***** that digg ***** like this that won't
- hinchb, on 03/22/2008, -2/+8haha yeah dude high five we're so much smarter than everyone else
- RFtesla, on 03/22/2008, -0/+4Most computer geeks have to take physics at one time or another.
- richgustavson, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1p=mv, bitches.
- Seth024, on 03/22/2008, -10/+17nice physics joke, but i think most computer geeks here didn't understand it.
- hoodedrobin, on 03/22/2008, -16/+17Why am I even reading this article... I thought she would atleast have nice teeth. Jesus christ for my american standards. She looks like a rabbit.
- thegenome, on 03/22/2008, -3/+25I live in surrey... and trust me the standard isnt so high here
- mrloco, on 03/22/2008, -0/+12i know... it's pretty dire around here.
- Dobby156, on 03/22/2008, -0/+4proud to live in yorkshire
- chillypacman, on 03/22/2008, -2/+12several 'major' sites do spam digg, I've checked the first bunch of diggers for these articles, almost always the same people.
I was going to set out to prove it and make a submission to digg highlighting the fact but to be honest Digg has been well and truly hijacked by this *****, heaps of people would even defend the actions or just shove a brik in their ears and pretend it's all a bad dream.- TecK415, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3Yep, I get spammers with thousands of "friends" adding me every day. They just mindlessly digg each others submissions, it's ridicules.
- cbuddha42, on 03/22/2008, -7/+13Yup, I read size 16 and I was like wow that girl must be tall. Read 5'10" and got a little confused. Then I saw the arms and went looking for the weight. 176? Ouch. I didn't even need to do the BMI calculations to tell you this girl was ~5 pounds over the max healthy weight for her height. Looking at the pictures I can see why she's winning and why people think she looks good, but I think she'd do far better to give up some of the fat, tone up her arms, ect and come back 140-150 in a size 8-10. That's still significantly more weight than her competition is carrying around, and I doubt she'll win because the fashion industry certainly has a preference for smaller models, but she might get some contracts out of it.
I know, I know, blah blah blah skinny models are unrealistic and unhealthy blah blah blah, but take a look at your country! England has pretty much the same problem the US does, and it isn't hordes of underfed people dying from malnourishment. While starving yourself down from that 0 to the elusive 00 isn't a good idea, neither is being over a 25 BMI.
While pointing at a size and saying "that's healthy" isn't the best way to identify a target weight or BMI or whatever, it's possible. 16 now isn't what 16 used to be, and it's the same with all the sizes. While a 10-12 used to be fine, a 6-8 is now a better range for average height women. Obviously the range should be lower for shorter women and higher for taller ones as well as some people having hips or some other feature that pushes them a size up, but if you waist is pushing you out of that healthy range you might want to watch it.
And the obsession with models in 0s isn't just getting skinnier models, it's affected by that 8 is the new 12 trend as well. Just google vanity sizing, and you'll find things like this: "As a result, what was a size 8 in the 1950s had become a 4 by the 1970s and 00 today," from http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/05 ... - LadyDub, on 03/22/2008, -3/+26I am the same height, and I used to be that size. Yes, it is unhealthy. Even thought her BMI is within reason, she probably gets winded getting up stairs or walking long distances, and I would almost gaurantee that she is borderline diabetic and/or heart problems. I'm a 6 now after going down to a 0, and I wouldn't be either extreme again. Neither is healthy. She could lose 40 pounds and come back as a HEALTHY 8. And I have no idea what that typo is with her weight, but I know she weighs at LEAST 200 pounds. Not trying to be mean, but from someone that's been exactly that size- she's not healthy.
- mcmlxxii, on 03/22/2008, -9/+4From the article "12st 8lb". 12 * 14 + 8 = 176lb. I don't agree with a lot of the comments here, she's a big-built 5'10" girl and she looks pretty damn good. I would far rather see someone with a little bit extra than a little bit under.
- matu4251, on 03/22/2008, -2/+5Why quote the article when the person you respond to said it must be a typo :) And I agree, she looks way over 176lbs.
- makis, on 03/22/2008, -0/+4everyone is a doctor nowadays... ah.. damn google!
- mcmlxxii, on 03/22/2008, -9/+4From the article "12st 8lb". 12 * 14 + 8 = 176lb. I don't agree with a lot of the comments here, she's a big-built 5'10" girl and she looks pretty damn good. I would far rather see someone with a little bit extra than a little bit under.
- Crazymaniacc, on 03/22/2008, -18/+12Are you out of your mind? Have you ever seen a fat person? That was not fat. Google for fat chicks, you'll see the difference.
Screw you and your perfect weight image.- dOOBiEx213, on 03/22/2008, -5/+15Double chin = fat.
- bunit03057, on 03/22/2008, -5/+8That's fat, just not obese. Like LadyDub said, it's still very unhealthy to be her size. Trust me I have seen fat people, I live in the U.S. and even by our standards that's fat.
- makis, on 03/22/2008, -3/+4our standards????what's the problem with everyone??? being fat is not a problem if your body is like that... it's never been!!!unhealthy is something VERY VERY different.
- bowe, on 03/22/2008, -3/+7Just because she's not in the morbidly obese, need a forklift to leave the house category, doesn't mean she's not fat.
- satanswetnipple, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1Just because you can spell, doesn't make you any less of an idiot.
- dOOBiEx213, on 03/22/2008, -12/+25Agreed. This bitch has had one too many cheeseburgers.
- blinker265, on 03/22/2008, -12/+3wow, it seems like you respect women.... i bet you have never even HAD a girlfriend
- bunit03057, on 03/22/2008, -1/+13Yea because womanizing jerks can never get girlfriends. Oh wait that's every jock I've ever met.
- Professr, on 03/22/2008, -3/+5They also get herpes :)
- satanswetnipple, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2And here is the sad reality. the Jocks are not here on Digg. They would not be seen dead here. So the ***** bragging about how they would never touch a fat chick are, by and large, all virgin geeks with big mouths.
- bunit03057, on 03/22/2008, -1/+13Yea because womanizing jerks can never get girlfriends. Oh wait that's every jock I've ever met.
- blinker265, on 03/22/2008, -12/+3wow, it seems like you respect women.... i bet you have never even HAD a girlfriend
- monoa, on 03/22/2008, -2/+6Save yourself from ever mistakenly reading The Daily Mail - install Stylish extension in Firefox and use this:
@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);
@-moz-document domain("dailymail.co.uk") {
body{
display:none !important;
}
html{
padding:60px !important;
}
html:before{
content:"FACT: The Daily Mail lowers your IQ." !important;
}
}- petepete, on 03/22/2008, -0/+2Or just avoid the Daily Mail?
- amishjim, on 03/22/2008, -20/+11Ignorant *****: She is not obese. Grow the ***** up and quit being so shallow. . . .
- hinchb, on 03/22/2008, -4/+11she's still fat
- stfucupcake, on 03/22/2008, -2/+5And by the time she is 40 she's likely to be much bigger and unhealthier. Better to be slim and fit at a younger age and maintain it into middle age.
- makis, on 03/22/2008, -3/+3i like reading all of your comments.you should all be gorgeous.my grandmother is 86 years old, she is about 200 pounds, she drink wine, eat meat and she's healthier than me and all of you put together.her sister died at 99.are you sure of what you say?or is just a male with just to much testosterone speaking?
- hinchb, on 03/22/2008, -1/+1Please learn some more English and get back to us.
- satanswetnipple, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1And you are still stupid.
- hinchb, on 03/23/2008, -0/+1I love when fatties get so uppity about things like this because I know that means they are burning more calories
- satanswetnipple, on 03/23/2008, -0/+1hinchb
I am large today, because of a medication I had to take for a decade. Before then, I had the same attitudes even though my nickname was "thin streak of weasel piss". I have always liked larger women. I have never found that I was attracted through necessity. I have had thin women literally smashing each others heads into the ground in serious fights over who got to keep me. One of my exes got some death threats because we were together. But then, I was the six foot six sports player type back then.
Weight is not everything, my first wife was a thin woman... VERY thin. I just find I get a boner for the women with more curves, so I tend to chase the larger women.
I DO find it disgusting that you believe it is open season on women with more weight, just because you yourselves are not attracted to them. Strange, I never imagined Digg users all being "Fabio" clones.... I suspect they are all short, weedy or fat, ugly and unsociable... and they believe they have the right to put a woman down because she is not their ideal weight. Sorry folks, but few of you are even close to "gorgeous". I really hope you lot do not get offended when the cute thin girls tell you that you are an ugly loser out loud. - hinchb, on 03/23/2008, -0/+1@SWN
You know I hear this tired story all the time. People somehow think it's impossible to lose weight, and that they are excused from some of responsibility of making ***** life choices because of some exterior factors. I'd love to respond to the rest of your post but honestly it's not worth my time and your stupid rationalizations of how people who make fun of fat people must be ugly short people is just amazing. Enjoy that cognitive dissonance.
"I have had thin women literally smashing each others heads into the ground in serious fights over who got to keep me."
yeah, this never happened.
- jaewon223, on 03/22/2008, -5/+4she's really not that overweight. i wouldnt really expect most diggers to know the difference anyway from the amount of articles that get dugg because of a thinner pretty face
- Professr, on 03/22/2008, -2/+3They digg us down because they're terrified that all that work to find a toothpick girlfriend, or to BE a toothpick girlfriend, was unnecessary in the end.
- hinchb, on 03/22/2008, -4/+11she's still fat
- TecK415, on 03/22/2008, -2/+7Yeah, to me Dailymail is just a ***** tabloid.
- TheFinaleofSeem, on 03/22/2008, -8/+2You, sir, are an idiot. Is she heavier? Yes, but guess what? Some girls can carry that extra weight yet still look good. Imagine that! People can also be a bit above average and still be more fit than skinny people. Imagine that!
Get lost, assbag. I'd probably take her over any of the vacuous twigs you'd see in these competitions any day of the week. - univerio, on 03/22/2008, -1/+5Mass, not weight. She would weigh less on the moon, but that's not what you want.
- Crabcakes, on 03/22/2008, -1/+4Even though this person clearly points out that hes not looking for someone stick thin, just someone a bit more healthy looking he still gets slammed by a bunch of people criticizing him, saying hes shallow and what not. Its so ridiculous. Then again the people saying it are probably overweight and just trying to reassure themselves that its fine to be the weight they are. Sad, really.
- Vodka2389, on 03/22/2008, -2/+4Bottom line is that you wouldn't look at her twice if you saw her walking down the street, unless your standards are quite a bit low than beauty competition material (or you're a chubby chaser)
This whole thing smells like a publicity stunt. - roosterjm2k2, on 03/22/2008, -5/+4I like how you can decide who's healthy from a picture, you should be a doctor, really.
I'm a big guy. I weigh 340lbs. Im strong, but im fat too. However, My blood pressure is not only healthy, but more stable than most people. My cholesterol is well below the bad line. I can (and have) run 8K races. I don't "get winded walking up the stairs". I don't sit on my ass all day. I don't smoke, i barely drink.
Frankly, I'm more "healthy" than most people...even though Im very much overweight.
But I respect your psychic ability to detect health from a picture... - BeyondGoodNEvil, on 03/22/2008, -2/+3Why is a killer whale wearing women's clothing? Where is the size 16 girl? Did they mix up the photos?
- bananasplit1586, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1i am not a fan of obesity because its a lifestyle problem that affects many sectors of your life... relationship, insecurity, work ethic, discipline... etc. However, that girl is NOT obese. She is bigger, but there is a difference between unhealthily fat & not completely fit. many athletes are larger - not just with muscle. i work at a gym and some of my co-workers- trainers & fitness instructors - are also larger, and extremely healthy. if she was unhealthily overweight, i'd have a problem with her size being promoted in the media. i do hope she doesn't gain much more weight though, for her height shes at an okay weight to maintain, but for her age it would be a dangerous trend if she gained anymore.
- kclancey640, on 07/16/2008, -0/+0This woman is not obese!
she is larger yes..and probably isnt the correct person to win miss england as she wouldnt be setting a good example for people, just as stick thin people wouldnt.... however it doesnt mean she is ugly or unhealthy.
Im a size eight and i am proably more unhealthy then her by trying my hardest to stay thin......
at least shes not obsessed with what other people think..i think shes really pretty and deserves to be in the competition as well as a stick thin or slim person should be.. EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT!!
- evernerve, on 03/22/2008, -49/+13If only more of these healthy-weight people would be promoted by the media instead of starts and celebrities who torture themselves with painful diets to look unreal. And yep, she's fat, but so what. She has also gut a cute face.
- ALyken, on 03/25/2008, -38/+57I don't see why this should be such an isolated case, the average figure in the UK is after all a size 16! I hope she goes far, though I rather suspect she won't win.
- minoss, on 03/22/2008, -11/+76Probably because it isn't a contest to pick to most average girl. And it's pretty much 100% guaranteed she won't win. This is the modern pageant version of the token black guy.
- ehalasey, on 03/22/2008, -34/+14Are you blind? She's hardly average. She's gorgeous.
- minoss, on 03/22/2008, -11/+12I never said she was average. I said they aren't going to pick a size 16 because 16 is the average size. She's obviously well above average. Just not at the top.
- zephyear, on 03/22/2008, -8/+12not the highest of standards eh
- mcmlxxii, on 03/22/2008, -4/+4she is gorgeous. What's the obsession these days with girls that look like boys? It's weird.
- ehalasey, on 03/22/2008, -34/+14Are you blind? She's hardly average. She's gorgeous.
- thailand1972, on 03/22/2008, -3/+23Well I guess they put her in for the publicity, but these days I even suspect it might be just to appease the "fat lobby" who would no doubt say that beauty pageants are a throwback, and are dangerous to those with anorexic tendencies - but now with a fatty in the pageant, suddenly they'll re-spin the whole event as a "celebration of the female figure in all its forms".
- 3leggedHorse, on 03/22/2008, -4/+18Size 16 thats because there is an obesity problem in the U.K
- winmywii, on 03/22/2008, -3/+12but I thought only Americans were fat.
- DeviateSeptum, on 03/22/2008, -2/+3You answered your own question... "the average figure in the UK"... beauty contests are not about the average figure. Duh.
- MattDell, on 03/22/2008, -5/+5I don't think Americans realize that a size 16 is about a size 8 in the States.
- cybertwat, on 03/22/2008, -1/+4she is definitely not a size US 8
- boombye, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1Maybe a 12.
- gothicform, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3Sort of... except that the average figure is also the average age so you're actually looking at middle aged women. For her age she IS overweight.
- bag0k, on 03/22/2008, -7/+2Oh my god, shut up, shut up, shut up!! these comments offend me more than anything I've ever read on this website, and I'm even more offended by the fact tat they're getting so many diggs. I'm offended both as a girl who's extremely self-conscious of her own weight and as the daughter of an obese woman. How the HELL can all of you be so damn shallow?! Ok, she's a little chunky, but so is everyone else, goddamn it! I look around my friends and most of them aren't your ideal picture of skinny-ass mindless long layered hair with blonde highlights big smile huge boobs model-type! Sitting here on your computers digging up every story related to Obama and Ron Paul, jumping on every internet bandwagon and temporarily pledging your undying support to every retarded cause that pops up for a day, do ANY of you think you'll EVER get laid if you have this attitude?
I'm just furious!! I've HAD it with Digg! I'm done. The end. I don't care what the ***** you do with my comment, I'm not coming back to this website. I've had my beef with Digg for a few months now, and now I'm done. You guys can continue being the place where internet fads come to die. Continue digging up the same funny cat videos, the same pictures of some amazing phenomenon, and completely changing what candidates you support based on how many people like him.
I'm done, digg. Good bye.- omgTHEPATRIOTS, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3Don't forget to tie the rope around your leg and stone tightly!
- bowe, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3This is an article about a beauty contest, not everyone can win. I don't think the people digging up the comments are going to win any beauty contests themselves, but they are smart enough to admit it. People understand that in the real world, beauty isn't everything, but in a beauty contest it is. Not every girl needs to think that she's perfect.
- satanswetnipple, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1No, I have read your comments. You are one of many arseholes here today bowe.
- joot2112, on 03/22/2008, -2/+5This is about a beauty contest, and you're asking why people are being shallow? It's a CONTEST about PHYSICAL BEAUTY! What part of that isn't reaching you? As the daughter of an obese woman, do you expect your mom to win a beauty contest? Don't you agree that obesity is a growing health problem and that we shouldn't idealize it or allow it to be so acceptable that people continue to get fatter and fatter and get more heart disease, diabetes, and so on? Wouldn't you prefer it if your mom would lose weight, so her risk of dying early would be lower? I've had it with people defending fatness as if it is a trait one has no control over. If you are self conscious about your weight, don't blame other people: eat less and exercise more.
- boombye, on 03/22/2008, -1/+1She thinks it's a normal trait that "everyone else" has.
- boombye, on 03/22/2008, -2/+1"Ok, she's a little chunky, but so is everyone else, goddamn it! I look around my friends and most of them aren't your ideal picture of skinny-ass mindless long layered hair with blonde highlights big smile huge boobs model-type!"
You didn't have to give a description of a female you're jealous of, and no, everyone else is not chunky. It's not healthy either. - satanswetnipple, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1And this is why Diggers don't get nice things. Sad how a bunch of short and/or fat and/or ugly and/or zitty and/or weak and/or socially inept and/or "small" geeks on Digg like to judge every little flaw someone of the opposite sex has... no wonder most Diggers are virgins. Don't claim to be jocks... jocks would not be seen dead on Digg.
- TunaFishGangsta, on 03/22/2008, -3/+5Someone needs to lock this porker back up with the other pigs... OINK OINK.
- AriaStar, on 03/22/2008, -2/+1If the average size were a 32, that wouldn't make it healthy. The average person may be unhealthy these days, but that doesn't mean we should accept it just because it's "average."
- satanswetnipple, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1It is obvious you do not know what is healthy. You may be a self hater, but there is no need to get catty and bitchy here.
- minoss, on 03/22/2008, -11/+76Probably because it isn't a contest to pick to most average girl. And it's pretty much 100% guaranteed she won't win. This is the modern pageant version of the token black guy.
- evernerve, on 03/22/2008, -33/+19A different woman for a change. Her exposure will at least somewhat balance the media-saturated promotion of anorexic models and the obsession with being thin. Yes, she may be obese, but it's good to see change once in a while.
- roflcopters, on 03/22/2008, -4/+12It is never a good thing to suggest that either extreme is the ideal. It is just as bad for the contest to allow an overweight woman to compete as it is an underweight woman.
- MoofTheStoof, on 03/22/2008, -7/+7She. Is. Not. Obese.
- linuxpenguin, on 03/22/2008, -1/+1I was a little surprised to read that too. . .
- codered1322, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3Forget that. Should we put men on an American Football field that weigh 130lbs? No, there is a time and place for everything. We have messed up standards of female beauty but I don' t think that this is a good solution to try to challenge them. A better one would be to ignore these pageants in general and treat overweight women with respect even though they are not sexually attractive.
- w00tfest99, on 03/22/2008, -48/+422Why are there no healthy weight women in these? What's wrong with a size 8? The article says she weighs 12 stones 8 pounds, that's 176lbs. I'm a guy and I weigh 165lbs and am the same height as her and I have a gut. She's fat, this isn't what they should be promoting. They're promoting that it's "normal" to be fat.
- ehalasey, on 03/22/2008, -16/+35I assure you, pinning "healthy weight" to a specific size helps nothing.
- heypetray, on 03/22/2008, -9/+35I disagree. I believe there is an ideal weight to height ratio at which the body performs at peak efficiency. At least there is a healthy weight range, and yes, I agree that promoting fat as 'normal' is not a good idea, just as promoting 'skinny' as normal. Let's pin "healthy" as normal.
- ehalasey, on 03/22/2008, -4/+30Your "ideal weight to height ratio" omits athletes, whose muscle usually allows for a bmi that shows as "overweight." Meanwhile, I'm not disagreeing that there is a level at which a body performs at its peak, I'm saying that size, as a NUMBER, is a huge problem in this equation and ought to be thrown out altogether.
Basically, if you understood how women's sizing works, you'd see that there's absolutely NO logic to it. No kidding. We women don't even get it. Sometimes you're a size large. Sometimes you're a size small. Sometimes the dress that fits is an 8. Sometimes it's a 12. Are you large-busted? Too bad that your dress size is a 6, because you're going to have to wear a 10 to fit the boobs. What's that? You have a muscular build? Your pants will fit in the legs and will be 3-4 inches too big in the waist. You don't like that? Good luck finding pants that don't fit equally as awkwardly.
So, what I'm saying is, the concept of "size" as a NUMBER is so incredibly variable, misleading, and not realistic in terms of how body types are actually shaped that it should not be used as an indicator of one's physical health. Moreover, as this concept of "skinny as normal" gets worse and worse, it becomes harder to find clothing that has room for things like hips and breasts, even for those of us who are healthy. Then you have a situation like what we have now where there are almost NO representations of healthy bodies in the media and you can't even find clothing to fit a healthy body, reinforcing the concept that above size 2 is somehow gargantuan and undesirable. This is what needs fixing, but it's not what feeds the corporations who make the clothes, so . . . who cares, right?- heypetray, on 03/22/2008, -1/+13Thanks for taking the time to reply. I guess being a guy, I tend to try and simplify something that has many variations (Such as the female body)
I still think that "healthy" should be the goal, should that mean an athletic build or not. It could be, as you say, the corporations who feed the problem - not the views of 'normality' - TheCasablancan, on 03/22/2008, -1/+4That is exactly why my little sister decided to make all of her own clothes.
- crossmr, on 03/22/2008, -1/+6it omits athletes..oh no.. every rule can have an exception. Does this girl look like an athlete? Are most people athletes? No.
Guys never have this issue.. because clothing manufacturers always measure the waist correctly. I've worn pants from different manufacturers that would show about a 5 inch difference all bought on the same day. The inch must be a pretty subjective measurement.
Sizes do have standards blame the manufacturers for ignoring them. There was a story awhile back about some manufacturers making certain sizes a little bigger so people wouldn't think they'd gained weight, or what they gained wasn't significant.
It happens to guys just as much as girls, guys just don't talk about it.
- heypetray, on 03/22/2008, -1/+13Thanks for taking the time to reply. I guess being a guy, I tend to try and simplify something that has many variations (Such as the female body)
- makis, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2do you believe it or do you know it?... many people believe that Jesus is dead and three days later has risen...
- ehalasey, on 03/22/2008, -4/+30Your "ideal weight to height ratio" omits athletes, whose muscle usually allows for a bmi that shows as "overweight." Meanwhile, I'm not disagreeing that there is a level at which a body performs at its peak, I'm saying that size, as a NUMBER, is a huge problem in this equation and ought to be thrown out altogether.
- hoodedrobin, on 03/22/2008, -3/+11Someone's fat.
- roflbrothel, on 03/22/2008, -1/+4Shut up fatty. Have some more diabetes.
- heypetray, on 03/22/2008, -9/+35I disagree. I believe there is an ideal weight to height ratio at which the body performs at peak efficiency. At least there is a healthy weight range, and yes, I agree that promoting fat as 'normal' is not a good idea, just as promoting 'skinny' as normal. Let's pin "healthy" as normal.
- vervalsing, on 03/22/2008, -15/+79Probably McDonalds' advertising company trying to convince people that fat people are sexy.
- DeathfireD, on 03/22/2008, -13/+8"The article says she weighs 12 stones 8 pounds, that's 176lbs"
Apparently thats the average weight for a UK women. This is one of the times I'm happy to be an American. Most girls I know are hardly ever above 150lbs and are far from stick figures.- hoodedrobin, on 03/22/2008, -3/+8Im an american too... We are so ***** fat here. Ill disagree with you on that also shouldn't this girl be sexy or something?
- roflcopters, on 03/22/2008, -1/+11I seriously doubt that 176 lbs is the average weight for women here. Regardless, she is not a 'woman', she's a 16 year old girl, in which case 176 lbs may well be the average weight for a woman, it just doesn't apply to her.
I know perhaps 1 or 2 girls around her age who are that weight or more, and I would consider them overweight. The vast majority of them weigh a less, and maybe another 1 or 2 may be underweight.- boombye, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1I buried a comment by some dude saying that size 16 is the average size of women in the UK where he was from, but maybe that's just his area.
Having watched BBC America, I've seen chicks that weigh more than me numerous times more than shallow American television.
- boombye, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1I buried a comment by some dude saying that size 16 is the average size of women in the UK where he was from, but maybe that's just his area.
- TheLD, on 03/22/2008, -3/+11On average UK people are thinner than Americans. Digg me down, the truth hurts.
- larthallor, on 03/22/2008, -0/+2I don't know if you are factually correct or not. However, I don't think most Americans would digg you down because it's part of our national self-image that we know we're fat. I imagine it would be rather the same thing if I mentioned that, on average, Brits are more understated than Yanks; I wouldn't expect too many UK citizens to digg me down, even if I was saying it in a vaguely pejorative way because it fits their own stereotypes of their fellow countrymen.
- zyryx, on 03/22/2008, -0/+9you need to come to texass, where the men and women are ***** huge... but as they say, everything is bigger in texass, the idiot, the fatties, etc.
- humanerror, on 04/03/2008, -3/+16Same here. I'm male and 5'10 and not especially slim and she weighs a good deal more than me.
- hoodedrobin, on 03/22/2008, -1/+10Im 5'9" i weight 145. I'm really fit I have the abs and *****. I'm not overly skinny Id say I am average.
I used to weigh 178 at my heaviest and I lost that weight in 6 months. Its not hard when you're 20 but at the same time I knew that I wasnt good looking or healthy I was sick more often and I had acne bad and I had stretch marks. Since losing the weight I haven't had the same clergy problems my hair looks better before it was curly and now its strait and has shine I don't have acne I have an "okay" beard and I feel better. Being heavy isn't hot or good and this girl wouldn't look good if she lost the weight.- roomforpanic, on 03/22/2008, -1/+11Clergy problems? Was it a priest? Did he touch you?
- hoodedrobin, on 03/22/2008, -3/+9Its not molestation if your over 18... Its just gay,
- roomforpanic, on 03/22/2008, -1/+11Clergy problems? Was it a priest? Did he touch you?
- xxMarka, on 03/22/2008, -0/+4women have boobies
- hoodedrobin, on 03/22/2008, -1/+10Im 5'9" i weight 145. I'm really fit I have the abs and *****. I'm not overly skinny Id say I am average.
- amilo000, on 03/22/2008, -7/+4Its ridiculous, before people were in an outrage about too many size zero models and some places banning them. Well now theyve gone to the other extreme, they should ban women outside the "ok" range of BMI (body mass index) whether it is above or below.
- joot2112, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3Maybe they should! It's not that they should "ban" them, but they need to consider whether the ideals of beauty upon which they judge the contestants include physical HEALTH, which would exclude anorexics/bulemics, and women who are at risk for heart attacks in their 30s.
- Spottswood, on 03/22/2008, -0/+6A few years ago everyone was freaking out about our average weight as a nation becoming closer to America's, so it became politically correct to bash fat people. Then the smoking ban was coming up, so it became politically correct to bash smokers. And now ppl r realising theres sod all they can do about getting fat cuz the food here is *****, so its politically correct to bash thin people. Its all bull *****. While they dont use the word 'fat' in the article even once, this girl is a porker. She weighs as much as me and Im 6'4! Shes also not attractive.
- d3lta, on 03/22/2008, -2/+3Actually 12stone 8oz = 168.5 pounds. 14 pounds make a stone, and 16 ounces make a pound. So she's actually a bit more than 3 pounds heavier than you. Just being picky :P
- blackinthmiddle, on 03/22/2008, -0/+4"Chloe, from Guildford, is 12st 8lb"
She's 12 stone 8 *pounds*, not ounces. I'm sure by the time I submit this, 12 people would have told you the same thing.
- blackinthmiddle, on 03/22/2008, -0/+4"Chloe, from Guildford, is 12st 8lb"
- nedzeve, on 03/22/2008, -7/+2"What's wrong with a size 8?"
Uh, it's overweight.- ktforfreak, on 03/23/2008, -0/+2a UK size 8 is a US size 6. Most models are a 2 or 4. So no, it's not overweight.
- andyd273, on 03/22/2008, -2/+5So take your beer gut, move most of it to the chest, and a little to the hips. Depending on how much of her mass is muscle, and how much isn't, and where the non muscle mass is located, she could either be just a little bit over weight, or spot on. She looks like she is at least a D, so you have to figure that each of those weight a few pounds... I'm just saying, comparing an over weight guy to an over weight girl doesn't work all that well, as normal physical differences can make a lot of difference.
- linuxpenguin, on 03/22/2008, -2/+7Biologically, women should be heavier than men. There's a whole body-mass index to determine what weight is healthy. Even if she isn't as thin as might be considered ideal, she certainly isn't obese - according to the BMI she's at the high end of normal (site I used shows her BMI as 24.1, where 18.5-24.9 is normal, 25-29.9 is overweight, and 30+ is obese.
That's exactly why they do this - YOU think she's unhealthy because she's larger than most models they show on TV and in magazines which are supposed to be considered beautiful and healthy. She's not. She could stand to lose some weight, but she's perfectly healthy even if she doesn't.- joot2112, on 03/22/2008, -2/+3BMI is a poor estimate of health -- it does not take into account whether weight is from muscle or fat. To cite that she is healthy due to her BMI is as fallacious as citing that she is unhealthy due to how her weight compares to a male of the same height. Let's dunk her or get a DEXA scan to get her percent body fat, then we'll talk.
- blackinthmiddle, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1I've always said this. I'm 6'0" and weigh about 215 or so. HOWEVER, I'm probably at 12 % bodyfat, can bench close to 300 and squat well over 350lbs. But according to BMI, I'm overweight. Meanwhile a man my height and 184 lbs is "healthy" even though he may be at 35% bodyfat.
- linuxpenguin, on 03/22/2008, -0/+2BMI is a pretty good estimate of health, actually. You're right that muscle weighs more than fat, and there's more accurate means, but for most people it's a fairly good representation. She can get around well enough to model clothes for hours, so I think it's safe to assume that it's a good enough representation. Usually people who really have a weight problem have trouble getting around even just to walk upstairs to their office or walk 20 minutes on a treadmill, let alone walk around a few hours a day on a catwalk.
- joot2112, on 03/22/2008, -2/+3BMI is a poor estimate of health -- it does not take into account whether weight is from muscle or fat. To cite that she is healthy due to her BMI is as fallacious as citing that she is unhealthy due to how her weight compares to a male of the same height. Let's dunk her or get a DEXA scan to get her percent body fat, then we'll talk.
- pauleku, on 03/22/2008, -2/+2These are healthy women. The reason this is good is because women are way too concerned about their weight. Many obess about it ever since their teens and are obsessed with becoming almost anorexic.
If this was a guy, nobody would care about the weight. This woman is not obease. Jeez.
- ehalasey, on 03/22/2008, -16/+35I assure you, pinning "healthy weight" to a specific size helps nothing.
- PinkFloydFan, on 03/22/2008, -43/+38Voluptuous.
- Ragarnok, on 03/22/2008, -3/+5Well you said it, she's got curves :D
- LimeParrot, on 03/22/2008, -0/+5# used to refer to a beverage that is full, round and long-lasting in the mouth.
that is seriously one of the definitions .... lmao - stfucupcake, on 03/22/2008, -1/+3Why don't they show the competition swimsuit pic? I can imagine her jelly belly...
- SlamShut, on 03/22/2008, -40/+28I'd hit it.
Bones are for the dog. Meat is for the man.