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- ShoujoKakumei, on 04/16/2009, -6/+214Because telling college kids not to get high is sure to work.
- inactive, on 04/16/2009, -8/+138...Unless they bring the chips and dip!
- deademery, on 04/16/2009, -7/+112Dugg for being my school and having received that email.
- janinekahn, on 04/16/2009, -18/+111Absolutely absurd. Hopefully pot will be legal in most western states within a few years. For the economy's sake and all that. :P
- Wakkyweed, on 04/16/2009, -3/+75Sure, we'll stay away from the 4-20 event. Where did you say it was being held?
- pman201, on 04/16/2009, -5/+71The CU administration send an email like this out every year.
- Dested, on 04/16/2009, -6/+65Come to the BudWeiser kegger afterwords though! Your counselors will be there to server you drinks to help get you trashed! Cant drive? No problem! Hospitals right next store!
- MiDNiGHTS, on 04/16/2009, -2/+54This goes against everything Animal House taught me.
- inactive, on 04/16/2009, -6/+56Hey hey hey hey ... smoke weed every day.
- Coven, on 04/16/2009, -2/+52Yes...we're afraid of getting arrested, so we regularly break the law by indulging in a scheduled 'drug'. We're such little pansies.
We want it legalized because it never should have been made illegal in the first place. - wpc33, on 04/16/2009, -2/+39Right next STORE?
Me fail English? That's unpossible! - Locke23, on 04/16/2009, -2/+38> One has to realize that it's protests like these, (as dumb as you might find them to be) that catch the public's attention to the matter. Safety is in numbers, and anyone who has ever attended any music festival before knows this (i.e., Ultra music fest, Langerado, Bonnaroo) where people can basically smoke and do drugs freely. There does exist a risk of getting arrested, but chances are that the majority of people that stick together will be safe. It might outrage conservatives and anti-legalization supporters, but the truth is that if you really believe in legalizing pot, and are not only attending a 4/20 protest to get stoned, this is the way to go.
We must remember our country is still a democracy, and it's the masses that must bring about change, by peacefully protesting.
Be glad that on 4/20 those protesting will not be burning, damaging, vandalizing public property to the extent other protesters often do. - BassMasterP, on 04/16/2009, -2/+33They're just covering their own asses so moronic parents don't blame the school for stuff.
- mjk340, on 04/16/2009, -3/+33Marijuana prohibition was created to keep minorities in prison. However, it has become too mainstream. It is no longer just a minority problem, but a war protesters problem, a 'liberal' problem, a free thinker's problem. Just introduce the plant that makes you feel funny into the social circle of the political defectors and you can start tossing them in jail. This power is worth billions to the government and taxation of legal pot wouldn't cover the lost opportunity cost of targeted population control.
- chrysrobyn, on 04/16/2009, -4/+33Okay then, so CU stands for upholding laws never based on fact, contrary to domestic security, against individual rights, for the sake of following a law that the students believe is wrong.
I would want my university to support me in my struggle to find myself, my right to congregate and my right to express my disapproval for laws I oppose.
Then again, I'm 33, have never had a joint in my life and am tired of my taxes going to contracted state prisons to house people who were in the wrong place being non-violent mellow offenders with the munchies, so maybe I'm not reflective of a realistic college opinion. - pman201, on 04/16/2009, -1/+28Coors is who CU is sponsored by (Coors event center).
- lamejoketeller, on 04/16/2009, -2/+29
April 7, 2009
To: UCSC Students
Fr: Felicia McGinty, Vice Chancellor Student Affairs
Re: Message to students regarding “4-20”
UCSC is committed to providing a safe, healthy living and learning environment in which you can thrive while earning a world class education. To that end, I write regarding a non-University sanctioned event often referred to as “Four-Twenty” or “4/20.” This unsanctioned, unwelcome and illegal activity diminishes UCSC’s reputation and draws negative attention to the campus. Additionally, this event creates multiple challenges for the campus and creates unacceptable risks to safety. Your safety is paramount, as is the need to continue campus operations that support learning. Therefore, the following measures will be in place:
April 17 – April 20:
* A “no-guest” policy in on-campus residence halls has been instituted per contractual agreements. The “no overnight guest” policy begins Friday, April 17 and concludes on Monday, April 20.
On Monday, April 20:
* The West Entrance to campus will be closed to inbound vehicular traffic, beginning at 3 p.m. and will remain closed until traffic personnel determine that it is appropriate to re-open.
* Metro buses and campus shuttles, including the "loop" vehicles, will be re-routed away from the west side of campus, beginning at 3 pm. Metro buses will enter campus through the Main entrance only, travel up Coolidge, and loop back to the Main Entrance via Hagar. Metro buses during this period of time will only make one stop in the campus core: on Hagar, between Quarry Plaza and OPERS.
* A reduced number of campus shuttles will continue to connect the east and west sides of campus—following the normal "core" route west, before turning uphill on Heller, and returning along McLaughlin to the east side of campus. (Disability van service, with the possible exception of delays caused by traffic congestion, will be unaffected by these changes.)
* Campus parking regulations will be strictly enforced.
* Sections of Empire Grade, uphill from the Arboretum, will be designated as a tow-away zone. Extra patrols will be on duty to enforce this restriction, and vehicles will be ticketed and towed at owners' expense.
UCSC continues to educate students about the risks of alcohol and drug use, provide alternative activities, and enforce University policies. Yet, ultimately, activities such as this are shaped by the individual choices and behaviors of community members. I encourage you to engage with your peers, other university community members and Student Affairs staff about these issues. We can support you in planning and participating in alternative activities that highlight your accomplishments as scholars and engaged world citizens. - maqikelefant, on 04/16/2009, -0/+24I Dugg you up for the fact that I had a boss for a while named Emery, and I wished him dead every single time I had to work with him.
- ThanatosST, on 04/16/2009, -4/+25As a CU student, I always laugh at these letters. We get one every year, and every year the number of people who show up keeps increasing. 2 years ago, it was nearly 5,000. Last year, at least 10,000. I know of people who drive out here from Portland, OR just to partake. Hell, it even got moved from where it used to be (Farrend Field) to the Norlin Quad. Mainly due to Farrend being under construction and not useable, it hasn't gone back to Farrend now that it's back open simply because the number of people wouldn't fit anymore.
Personally, I don't smoke, but I'm planning on baking a couple dozen cookies and selling them for $1 a piece. - compressedaudio, on 04/16/2009, -3/+22students + stay away = go
- yohnstoppable, on 04/16/2009, -1/+20I'll definitely stop by to get directions on how to get away from there
- OneRottenTomato, on 04/16/2009, -5/+22Speaking of pansies- so how'd your little tea-bagging orgy go?
- eldrummero144, on 04/16/2009, -0/+16imagined if that actually happened. national guard troops called in to suppress a 'rowdy' large of pro-marijuana students, killing peaceful protesters and subsequently galvanizing the nation into legalizing it....let's hope it doesn't come to that.
- wafflesomd, on 04/16/2009, -1/+15I've been charged twice.
Do I stop? Hell no. Am I scared of being charged? No. - Pigeon, on 04/16/2009, -0/+14Thanks for the insults.
I don't drink. I don't drink AT ALL. Why? I don't like it.
I do smoke pot. Why? I like it.
I enjoy coming home after work (OMG a stoner who works!), smoking a joint then reading a good book or watching a film. It's nice and relaxing.
I'm sure wives enjoy it when their drunk husbands come home pissed out of their heads and beat them.
I can go into town tonight and see drunken idiots fighting, causing property damage, abusing others in the street. I could then go to a friends and see people smoking pot. Guess what they are doing? Laughing, joking, discussing politics, watching films, whatever. The key difference? They don't cause harm to anyone else, while the drunks do. - alittleroy101, on 04/16/2009, -0/+13I recently returned to school at CU Boulder. While I don't smoke pot anymore at this stage of my life, you bet your ass I'm going to be there at Farrand Field in response to this email, and also to add another face to the crowd. It really is harmless fun.
Although I do hope that people also take a moment on the morning of 4.20 to remember those killed and wounded at Columbine 10 years ago. - TTT1, on 04/16/2009, -4/+17This school is not alone.
The vice-chancellor at UCSC sent e-mails to all incoming freshmen parents.
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_12085094 - yohnstoppable, on 04/16/2009, -1/+12Ya... by college most people don't believe a ***** thing they've been told about drugs.
I mean, seriously. The DARE commercial where the kid gets offered weed as a "free sample" on his way home from school? Where the ***** was that kid on my walk home?
What's funnier is when I was a kid I was on Ritelan, and was told it would "react harmfully" if I smoked weed. So I'd at the very least be sent to the emergency room. The weed I smoked the day before disagreed with this. - Jough, on 04/16/2009, -1/+12Buried because I am Emery.
- vtbarrera, on 04/16/2009, -1/+11Needless to say, LiberalCookie was teabagged to oblivion, and was left wanting more.
- LogicBomB, on 04/16/2009, -0/+10That's exactly the kind of support we need from those who abstain. You sir, are awesome.
- jeexbit, on 04/16/2009, -0/+9just give the cookies away for free man....
- TsuruchiBrian, on 04/16/2009, -0/+9You're like the girl who "cuts off her nose to spiderface."
- vikblazin, on 04/16/2009, -7/+16im gonna get so high monday. hydro skunk all day!!!!
- Magee1205, on 04/16/2009, -0/+9awkward...
- TrashyMoped, on 04/16/2009, -0/+9is your major business admin?
that sounds like a good business model to me... - inactive, on 04/16/2009, -4/+13A larger problem is that it makes CU Boulder into "that pot school" which isn't exactly the reputation most provosts, deans, and chancellors hope for when they sign on. Sure, college kids smoke pot, especially in Boulder, but you're right, it makes people who smoke pot look like big douchebags.
- Vbp6us, on 04/16/2009, -1/+9lol the chancellor is in for a surprise when 20,000+ people show up.
- vikblazin, on 04/16/2009, -2/+10wtf.
i go to school. but i can smoke too. =) - alittleroy101, on 04/16/2009, -0/+8Here is a full text of the email...
Edit...well I'm an idiot, didn't see it printed at the bottom of the article. Oh well.
TO: All CU-Boulder Students
FROM: Office of the Chancellor
SENDER: Bronson.Hilliard@colorado.edu
DATE: April 15, 2009
SUBJECT: A statement from the CU-Boulder leadership to CU Students on the 4-20 gathering
Dear Students:
As another April 20 approaches, we are faced with concerns from students, parents, alumni, Regents, and community members about a repeat of last year's 4/20 "event."
Let us start by saying that we share their concerns. A gathering of thousands on our campus for the sole purpose of engaging in unlawful activity is contrary to everything that CU-Boulder stands for and is in no way condoned. This event only serves to harm the reputation of this great university and is comprised in large part of individuals with no investment in the university at all.
The increasingly large crowds that have gathered in recent years present safety risks for participants, whether students or people not affiliated with the campus. This activity violates a number of campus regulations designed to provide for the well-being of our campus and neighboring community.
On April 20, 2009, we hope that you will choose not to participate in unlawful activity that debases the reputation of your University and degree, and will encourage your fellow Buffs to act with pride and remember who they really are -- part of a dynamic environment of teaching, research, learning, and service, nationally recognized for its unique and stellar academic programs, outstanding faculty, and proud students and alumni.
Sincerely,
Phil DiStefano
Interim Chancellor
Julie Wong
Vice Chancellor of Student Affairs
Deb Coffin
Dean of Students - dankenstein, on 04/16/2009, -2/+9I have been to this event the last 4 years, and here is an idea of just how things have progressed:
2005: One thousand attend Farrand Field, university turns on sprinklers which are quickly mutilated, event ensues as planned.
2006: Two thousand attend Farrand Field, to find barricades and rentacops, one attendee jumps over and gets chased, the rest storm the field, event ensues as planned (and the rentacops look like fools).
2007: Five thousand attend Norlin Quad (Farrand under construction, what a coincidence), university hires people to take photographs of students at the event, which ensues as planned, and the CUPD posts the pictures online, offering $50 reward for turning someone in, they then receive national outrage and quickly take the site down.
2008: Ten thousand attend Norlin Quad (Farrand cannot hold such a crowd), university does nothing but send two police units to stand and get contact high, event ensues.
So essentially the university and police have exponentially gotten less powerful and more indifferent, just as the crowds have exponentially gotten larger and more enthused. I have heard of and seen people fly to Denver for a few days just to participate in this event, especially in 2007 and 2008, so I would say that 20,000 is definitely an accurate estimate for this year, and this email sent to everyone is definitely exponentially lower effort than I have ever seen them do before. I have videos and pictures from every year if anyone would like documentation on this event. It is sad I will not be able to make it this year, but I will be in Boulder nonetheless and will see the smoke! - WarriorBlake, on 04/16/2009, -0/+7"UCSC continues to educate students about the risks of alcohol and drug use, provide alternative activities"
What kind of alternative activities can you provide for alcohol and drugs? - maqikelefant, on 04/16/2009, -3/+10Dugg for the article's headline. "CU Chancellor, obviously high, ..." I lol'd.
- luteslinger, on 04/16/2009, -1/+8It's not about where it comes from, it's about where it takes you.
- hankidic, on 04/16/2009, -0/+7Ever seen the back of a twenty dollar bill???
- theuserdylan, on 04/16/2009, -5/+11He should've CC'd Michael Phelps on this one.
- Pigeon, on 04/16/2009, -2/+8Nope.
But what it will do is this:
1. Free hundreds of thousands of NON VIOLENT offenders from prisons who can then work/create businesses/whatever. These people will then pay taxes. These people will then spend money giving businesses more money.
2. It will save billions in wasted law enforcement, which could, you know, actually be used on crimes like murder or robbery. You know, those crimes that actually affect other people.
3. It will save millions spent on keeping (again) NON VIOLENT people in prison.
It isn't the answer to the economy sure, but it sure would help. - billraydrums, on 04/16/2009, -1/+7Ever been arrested? I have, once. First and last time. It was an interesting experience; your kind were the ones who screamed and cried the most, from what I observed.
- Cashmoney504, on 04/16/2009, -0/+6Risking arrest for a herbal plant is a great way of protesting.
- Pixelante, on 04/16/2009, -1/+7You're in the wrong century. The national guard could pretty much napalm them and the news would report that the pro-weed guys were pedoterrorists. This is not the age of the civil rights movements. In 21st Century, Rosa Parks would have safely been tasered out of her seat or beaten up by private security guards, and that would have been the end of it. Instead of Martin Luther King's marches, we would have had ineffective facebook protest groups and online petitions.
Welcome to the age of the wimp. -
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