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- Hellman109, on 07/07/2008, -3/+27China is slowly opening up their freedoms, the US is slamming them shut.
Whats the bet that in a decade or so China will be the free world and the US will be the red under the bed... - Fast05GT, on 07/08/2008, -1/+20Project MKULTRA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKULTRA - Naskin, on 07/08/2008, -1/+15ALL HAIL THE GLORY OF HYPNOTOAD!
- Hangly, on 07/08/2008, -1/+13I see your Project MKULTRA, and raise you one Operation Mockingbird.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird - scooterbaga, on 07/06/2008, -0/+11Don't agree with the past tense nature of the title. If they haven't already perfected multiple methods... They're still working on it... Or both.
- Hangly, on 07/08/2008, -0/+7For what it's worth, the US has always been the best at propaganda. Even Hitler patterned his propaganda on the propaganda Wilson used in WWI.
After the world wars America perfected the art of using Freudian psychology to make commercials that don't look like commercials and propaganda that doesn't look like propaganda.
Chinese propaganda is still pretty crude. It doesn't get much more sophisticated than "Don't join the Falun Gong or you are a traitorous asswipe! Love, the government." Not surprisingly, it doesn't really work. - Hangly, on 07/08/2008, -1/+8Oh my, that's interesting.
"Wisner established Mockingbird, a program to influence the domestic and foreign media. Wisner recruited Philip Graham from The Washington Post to run the project within the industry. According to Deborah Davis in Katharine the Great; "By the early 1950s, Wisner 'owned' respected members of The NEW YORK TIMES, Newsweek, CBS and other communications vehicles."
My irony-o-meter just exploded and got irony all over my carpet. - bratterscain, on 07/08/2008, -4/+11Fear mongering. The government tries to instill fear by exaggerating the terroristic threat and articles like this do the same to instill fear of governments. We're not ***** pawns, not all of us anyway. While some of you ***** bicker back and forth of who's controlling who, I'm going to try to enjoy life can carry on.
"Yeah, keep on enjoying life while your government plots how to control your mind." - Yeah, I know digg too well. The government has been doing this ever since it was established, according to the paranoid. And guess what, did you know we are the government? I have friends and family that work for it. Are they in a plot to control my mind? Or unsuspectingly doing so? Blah, people with too much time on their hands, if you ask me. Or watches too much X-Files, which is a damn good show, btw.
I am against any sort of mind control by the government. We're a nation that has something decent and I don't think we need to control minds for people to stay true to it. My dad may be a grumpy old man as I predict I will be and we may have very different views, that doesn't mean I'd trade his life for another and be disloyal. Same with a a government, girlfriend, etc. Doing something faulty does not mean I condone it or that I may believe a lie they speak. Maybe if the government trusted us more, we'd trust it more, just as in a relationship. Oh well, why the ***** do I always forget what I'm getting at when I go for these long comments.
cliff notes - Life is a big ***** soup and we're all taking a bite - Havoc737903, on 07/08/2008, -0/+6Way to go NY Times, talk directly about project MK ULTRA and it's associated operations, yet mention their name nowhere in the article. Yeah, that'll get you credibility.
- Fast05GT, on 07/08/2008, -1/+7Yea thanks Hangly, never heard of that one before. I suggest the book "Behold A Pale Horse" By William Cooper (who was assassinated by State Troopers in his home). Lots of great info in there.
- joshuasawyer, on 07/08/2008, -0/+6"Behold A Pale Horse" is a very interesting book.
Torrent link: http://www.mininova.org/tor/222352
Direct download (17 MB): http://www.adrive.com/public/3800f9e7e77ed8eb86224 ...
"This is William Cooper's shocking book Behold a Pale Horse (1991) which has since it was first published over 15 years ago become the bestselling underground book of all time. One of the main reasons is probably the most accurate predictions it holds inside regarding the terrifyng future of our planet as powerful forces are planning nothing less than a total enslavement of mankind or human resources as we are called. An instant conspiracy classic when published the information inside was not only very shocking but profound for anyone who read it and many people have since then changed the way they look on world events. The author, former U.S. Naval Intelligence Briefing Team Member and holder of Top Secret security clearance, reveals information kept secret by US government since the 1940s. It includes UFOs, JFK assassination, secret world government, war on drugs and many more topics which are not only relevant but crucial to understanding the world today. Cooper was privileged to see secret documentation and meet various insiders who convinced him that there is a major conspiracy ongoing to subvert USA to a totalitarian state ruled by a handful of people constituting a powerful oligarchy. Much of this has already come to pass and is common knowledge today thanks to such books as this. Carefully researched and fully documented, Behold a Pale Horse is one of those books which will surely keep the reader at his seat until he has finished reading it from cover to cover. It doesn't only inform the reader about our hidden history but delivers mindblowing analysis and connects the dots so anyone can sense the big picture for themselves. This book is a must read for all freedom-loving people, who are, at present, in great danger of losing their freedom and even their lives to a group of powerful and wealthy men, who are now, and have always been, in complete control of all the media, banks, and the New World Order. 500 pages, many pictures and documents. A must read for everyone.
Chapters review from amazon.com:
1) SILENT WEAPONS FOR QUIET WARS
A reprint of a document found in a IBM copier bought at a surplus sale. In short this document is a blue print for controlling a population. Some have claimed that it's a fake. If it's a fake then someone went to great lengths to draft such a insightful document - but why?
2) SECRET SOCIETIES AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER
A good introduction to secret societies like the Freemasons, Jason Group, Trilateral Commission, CFR, and the Illuminati. On page 72 he accurately predicted that the Galileo spacecraft was going to crash into Jupiter in an attempt to ignite its atmosphere! (Anyone out there remember 2010 and what happened to Jupiter in that movie?)
3) OATH OF INITIATION OF AN UNIDENTIFIED SECRET ORDER
You'll have to decide for yourself if you want to believe this oath.
4) SECRET TREATY OF VERONA
A sample of how Monarchs use treaties to regain their crowns.
5) GOOD-BY USA, HELLO NEW WORLD ORDER
Plans for the suspension of the Constitution and the role of Mt. Weather in bringing it about.
6) H.R. 7049 & FEMA
After reading this chapter you won't doubt the real purpose of FEMA.
7) ANTI-DRUG ABUSE ACT OF 1988
An excellent example of how congress (which is the opposite of progress!) passes legislation which on the surface seems to be reasonable, but under the surface it's really an attempt to suspend due proses, trail by jury, and bring about a police state!
8) ARE THE SHEEP READY TO SHEER?
It covers an Oklahoma law that requires residents of that state to declare to the tax collector every piece of property that they own! A good way for the government to know what you own - especially guns!
9) ANATOMY OF AN ALLIANCE
A discussion about population control and various attempts to decrease the world's population. On page 168 he reveals the origins of AIDS (H.B. 15090) and how it was spread by vaccine. How international wars are created for population control.
10) LESSONS FROM LITHUANIA
A short (two page) but excellent article by Neal Knox on gun control.
11) COUP DE GRACE
A transcript of a conversation between Bill and Randall Terpstra, who was a radioman and crypto operator in the U.S. Navy. They discuss how Nixon was forced to resign by the U.S. military, U.F.O.'s, "Operation Majority," and so on.
12) THE SECRET GOVERNMENT
He discusses a lot about aliens and U.F.O.'s in this chapter. On page 215 he reveals the truth about the assassination of J.F.K. How Prozac is used along with hypnosis and mind control techniques to motivate people to commit mass shootings in order to disarm the public.
13) TREASON IN HIGH PLACES
An article on how treaties can be used to erode the sovereignty of the U.S.A.
14) A PROPOSED CONSTITUTIONAL MODEL FOR THE NEWSTATES OF AMERICA
A reprint of a proposed socialist constitution by the Center for Democratic Studies. It's hard to believe that $25,000,000 was spent on this trash.
15) PROTOCOLS OF THE WISE MEN OF ZION
Is this document really the protocols of the Illuminati? Read it and decide for yourself.
16) THE STORY OF JONATHAN MAY
A 26 page story about what happens when someone challenged the Fed money system.
17) DOCUMENTATION: U.S. ARMY INTELLIGENCE CONNECTION WITH SATANIC CHURCH
APPENDIXES
A) WILLIAM COOPER'S MILITARY RECORD
B) UFOs AND AREA 51
C) ALIEN IMPLANTS
D) AIDS
E) NEW WORLD ORDER
F) U.S. GOVERNMENT DRUG INVOLVEMENT
G) KURZWEIL vs. HOPKINS
From the backcover:
Bill Cooper, former United States Naval Intelligence Briefing Team member, reveals information that remains hidden from the public eye.This information has been kept in Top Secret government files since the 1940s. His audiences hear the truth unfold as he writes about the assassination of John F. Kennedy, the war on drugs, the Secret Government, and UFOs. Bill is a lucid, rational, and powerful speaker whose intent is to inform and to empower his audience. Standing room only is normal. His presentation and information transcend partisan affiliations as he clearly addresses issues in a way that has a striking impact on listeners of all backgrounds and interests. He has spoken to many groups throughout the United States and has appeared regularly on many radio talk shows and on television.
In 1988 Bill decided to "talk" due to events then taking place worldwide, events which he had seen plans for back in the early 70s. Since Bill has been "talking" he has correctly predicted the lowering of the Iron Curtain, the fall of the Berlin Wall, and the invasion of Panama. All Bill's predictions were on record well before the events occurred. Bill is not a psychic. His information comes from Top Secret documents that he read while with the Intelligence Briefing Team and from over 17 years of thorough research.
"Bill Cooper is the world's leading expert on UFOs." Billy Goodman, KVEG, Las Vegas.
"The only man in America who has all the pieces to the puzzle that has troubled so many for so long." Anthony Hilder, Radio Free America.
"William Cooper may be one of America's greatest heroes and this story may be the biggest story in the history of the world." Mills Crenshaw, KTALK, Salt Lake City.
"Like it or not, everything is changing. The result will be the most wonderful experience in the history of man or the most horrible enslavement that you can imagine. Be active or Abdicate, the future is in your hands." William Cooper, October 24, 1989.
More info about the author: http://www.hourofthetime.com/biography.html" - Hangly, on 07/08/2008, -1/+6You mean greater freedoms, a stable economy, a rising standard of living, better food and fewer obese women? We should be so lucky.
- inactive, on 07/08/2008, -1/+6CIA Mind-control experiments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKULTRA
CIA propaganda, using media like the Washington Post:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird - cygnus2112, on 07/08/2008, -1/+6FYI:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/07/06/china-fa ...
"China is harvesting organs from live Falun Gong prisoners without consent and destroying their remains, says a report from a former Liberal MP and a Canadian human rights lawyer.
The 68-page document, produced by former MP David Kilgour and Winnipeg lawyer David Matas, is based partly on a series of telephone recordings made by the Coalition to Investigate the Persecution of the Falun Gong in China (CIPFG). The non-governmental group has offices in Washington and Ottawa.
David Kilgour, former Liberal cabinet minister, says that China is harvesting organs from live Falun Gong prisoners without consent and destroying their remains.
David Kilgour, former Liberal cabinet minister, says that China is harvesting organs from live Falun Gong prisoners without consent and destroying their remains.
It also includes interviews with Falun Gong practitioners living in Canada and information taken from Chinese hospital and transplant centre websites.
For years, Falun Gong followers have alleged that the Chinese government harvests and sells the organs of imprisoned Falun Gong members in an increasingly profitable organ trade.
Of the 60,000 organ transplants the China Medical Organ Transplant Association recorded between 2000 and 2005, 18,500 of those organs came from identifiable sources, said the report.
"That leaves 41,500 transplants from no other explained sources," Matas said during a news conference Thursday in Ottawa." - inactive, on 07/08/2008, -1/+5additional notes - you can't bite into soup.
- slundal, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4I don't see what use the enemy could have of a solider who is "KILLED and captured". At least where brainwashing is concerned.
- Hangly, on 07/08/2008, -1/+5I'm posting this from China, and he's absolutely right. Every year things get better here. Hell, my salary increased 20% over the last two years because of the dollar decline.
- cygnus2112, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3Chunky soup - eat with a fork, not a spoon.
- wisid, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3http://www.archive.org/details/TheManipulationOfHu ...
The above link is the book from the internet archive, it has the findings of the scientist / researcher they referred to - Hangly, on 07/08/2008, -1/+4Got it. I also found an interview with William Cooper on Demonoid. Looks amazing.
Also: http://tinyurl.com/5t3lw8 - poidh, on 07/08/2008, -2/+5Wow. That's as nutty and fruity as I've ever seen.
- Hangly, on 07/08/2008, -1/+4Kos doesn't create nuts, it just attracts them. Like a magnet.
- poidh, on 07/08/2008, -1/+4So where do those freaks come from? Are they born like that?
- inactive, on 07/08/2008, -1/+4I never heard of Project Mockingbird! Thanks, I'll post the wiki link, everyone should know this.
- bratterscain, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3Yeah, the 'love and trust to get the same' ideology seems the best thing for a govt just as with a girlfriend. You can tell or try to force a girl to be true but you're a controlling dick, why should that give her any incentive to be true when she knows you're an *****? Same role a govt should play with its people. Love and trust them, you will get the same back.
- j0hnc0ry, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3Derek Zoolander you will kill the PRIME MINISTER OF MALAYSIA!!!!
- cygnus2112, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2Psst.. "they" are out to get you!
- Frostek, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2We'll probably get claims of CIA necromancy next... "I read it on the internet - it must be true!"
- Hangly, on 07/08/2008, -1/+3also:
Also: http://tinyurl.com/5t3lw8 - bono4u, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1I would say a bit more activly. When the NEA considers reeducatioing of their little victims then it would go to brainwashing, at the moment it sounds simply like control/paranoia what they are doing.
- askantik, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Watched the thing about this on the History Channel yesterday. Interesting, to say the least...
- Rhendal, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2Dude, go away.
- craighoxton, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1The Manchurian Candidate IS PEOPLE!
- cygnus2112, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2My brain. My brain. My braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain.
- PandaBearShenyu, on 03/28/2009, -0/+1The American sense of Freedom is the Freedom to be lazy and enjoy life without working for it. The only reason why America is still the top of the world is because of the inertia of the hardwork of your forefathers, if Americans don't wake up, you'll be in for a seriously wake up call when the entire nation collapses when no one wants to work anyone and just want to watch porn, masturbate, eat and sleep.
- inactive, on 07/08/2008, -3/+4You would be the expert on that.
- zombies187, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1I think the interesting idea in this is that this was part of an arms race against the Soviets. We BOTH spent a lot of money on this. What are THEY doing with what they learned? I bet they sold it to some jerks.
- inactive, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Brain washing: "public school system".........
- zombies187, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1So if it works, its the prisoners fault. Very logical.
- alpha_male76, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1"Lots of Cream and Lots of Sugar"
...... anyone? - Chahrlie5, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1If only there weren't on a hiring cut back now.
- BrapAllgood, on 07/08/2008, -2/+3"Please post one example of Herkimer56 lying, Brappie. "
Okay.
"You would be the expert on that."
I am by no means an expert on denial. Wow, that was easy. Can we up the ante for the next round? - inactive, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1SEE!! I KNEW IT. US government controlled by mad psychos.
- bigfootindy, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Obey my dog!
- inactive, on 07/08/2008, -3/+3He certainly has no ability to grasp the truth.
- fdsfdg, on 07/08/2008, -0/+0Buried. ***** having to register to read a single article.
- inactive, on 07/08/2008, -3/+3I don't think that Brappie knows what a lie is.
- inactive, on 07/08/2008, -3/+3Please post one example of Herkimer56 lying, Brappie.
- BrapAllgood, on 07/08/2008, -3/+3I would call you a liar based purely upon the vast number of times you have lied. For instance, "Edward Asner is so far to the left that he's fallen off of the edge of the world and we all know how much the left hates Israel and the Jews."
The world is round, Herk. Lying to make your point IS STILL LYING. Your opinion that he's 'so left' is more bigotry than truth, most especially when you are far from 'so right' yourself. Your belief that 'we all know' this is even further down the road into HerkLand, where deniability is paramount. More than 13,000 comments, most of them denying something someone said is *****, nonsense, and, of course, *****. A simple look through your comment history shows you to be far more the master of deniability than I could ever hope to compete with.
http://digg.com/users/Herkimer56/history/comments
How about when you called me a bigot and provided ZER0 examples? How about when you called me a racist and had nothing to point to? How about when you said I have no thoughts? (REtarded, dude...you are communicating with someone who is thoughtless? PUH-leeze.)
...Which reminds me of the lie you KEEP telling about how you are done with me and are gonna ignore me from now on, blah blah ***** lies blah. They never end, apparently.
Please stop wasting my time with your projections. I said please. :) - inactive, on 07/08/2008, -3/+3I would call you an expert on denial based purely on your vast experience denying everything that you don't agree with. For instance, "I am by no means an expert on denial."
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