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- aszymczyk, on 10/12/2007, -18/+7Finally
- wild, on 10/12/2007, -14/+50This would be climbing the page faster if you had put the word "apple" in front. I imagine I am not the only mac user that can't see the icon, just a box. ;)
- notjamt9000, on 10/12/2007, -15/+1I see a euro sign
- Dycacian, on 10/12/2007, -11/+72I see a '?'
- prockcore, on 10/12/2007, -11/+12I see a box with F8FF in it.
- Haroldx, on 10/12/2007, -10/+17I only see 3 lines.
Yea, maybe some people should just avoid using those symbols for the good of the community. - kevnaca, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20I see an empty box before tv on the link in Firefox but the title bar and tab title displays the apple logo. Safari displays the apple perfectly. I was little confused for a moment though.
- Topslakr, on 10/12/2007, -7/+28I haven't done anything special to my Macbook and I see the apple symbol.. Looks nice.
- Matteos, on 10/12/2007, -9/+121I see dead people...
- gfw123, on 10/12/2007, -10/+9Never mind the bullocks....
- dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -8/+56I see the Microsoft logo. Imagine *my* surprise!
- adc86, on 10/12/2007, -12/+510.4.9, see the Apple... The page is UTF-8, its time for software to get compliant.
- kevnaca, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2Funny, IE7 does not show the apple logo at all, just an empty box.
- humperdeath, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3I can see it now, hundreds of eager consumers camping out for a week in front of their mailbox waiting for it to arrive. USPS and UPS should have a Tuesday midnight mail delivery just for this one!
- anagoge, on 10/12/2007, -16/+2I see dead people!
Edit:..beaten. - jordan314, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5prockcore's being dugg down because he runs Ubuntu. All this talk of ubuntu this ubuntu that and then we punish people for running it.
- counterplex, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3The rss feed shows an apple logo too. On Firefox/OSX using live bookmarks
- prockcore, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2jordan: yup
- MauiMac, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Screenshot with Tracking # anyone?...
- TheCount, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Awesome. That means the modders can finally get their hands on it, so I can buy one when someone develops a mod that will let me stream videos in the same format I download them.
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15If you guys used the Safari web browser you'd see this: http://web.mac.com/brendanjnr/iWeb/Site/Welcome.html
- GRTWHT, on 10/12/2007, -8/+7@ Ireland
For years we all griped about how IE loved their proprietary BS and tried to tell everyone that if they used IE to browse, THEN everything would display correctly....think about what you just posted. - Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"For years we all griped about how IE loved their proprietary BS and tried to tell everyone that if they used IE to browse, THEN everything would display correctly....think about what you just posted."
I'm not trying to justify anything, that's why I said I would have typed the word Apple. My point was to show people what Safari users were seeing. - Giga, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"10.4.9, see the Apple... The page is UTF-8, its time for software to get compliant."
Who says the apple logo using U+F8FF is in the proper standard? According to http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/private_use_area.html F8FF should be a small ] and that is exactly what I see on screen. - usherzx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Ireland:
Thanks, I was wondering what was supposed to be there.. I kind of assumed it would end up being the Apple logo but I wasn't sure why I wasn't getting it!
Ignore the jackasses... - GRTWHT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Apologies to Ireland, it sounded to me like the typical (insert your least favorite browser here) fanboy post, trying to tell us all 'the page is fine, you can't see it because you don't use the only GOOD browser'. I missed the part where you said you would have typed apple.
- cctoronto05, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4niiiiccee!!
- tabledesk, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32I didn't know the Apple character was valid for URLs.
- geraldb28, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It's not. Kinda funny how some of these characters work isn't it? Even on the same box through different browsers.
That may actually turn out to be the funnest part of this whole post... not the news, but a character in the Title of the post. HAH! - ThatsUnpossible, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Any character is valid after the domain name separator in the URL as long as it is encoded properly. The only question is whether your web server can handle it, whether most browsers will handle it, and what will it look like to end-users? Also, is it worth it if people can't type the url easily by hand? Will search engines refuse to index your page? Etc.
- Giga, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Digg appears to parse the "invalid" characters out of the URL.
- geraldb28, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It's not. Kinda funny how some of these characters work isn't it? Even on the same box through different browsers.
- bredvad, on 10/12/2007, -12/+95Dugg for the Apple character.
- fixyourthinking, on 10/12/2007, -9/+8same here
- badnewsblair, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11I wasn't going to digg, but I did because of the Apple logo and that a lot of people would be getting weird different symbols based on what fonts they had installed.
- drewskyjones, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23Dugg for the "?"
- mrgono3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4it does work on a iBook G4 many mac users cant see it but i can
- pingsmoth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I still can't believe it's actually a valid character.
- iricund, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Pictures or it isn't happening...
Just because charges are being made doesn't mean boxes are flying out to customers. It won't be long now admittedly but lets not get premature about things unless you have a concrete definition of imminence.- geraldb28, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Apple Store employee. In chat. Screen shot of chat. Instructions on how to get same conclusion from independent effort.
Nah. It's a total lock. Happening RFN whether you're skeptical or not.
- geraldb28, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Apple Store employee. In chat. Screen shot of chat. Instructions on how to get same conclusion from independent effort.
- Pile, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17In Mozilla all I get is a question mark.
- captaineuphoria, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6I have Mozilla as well, but I see the apple.
- darkamster07, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2opera is working fine for me, I see the apple, I also see it in the tab
- nottidredd, on 10/12/2007, -9/+23What is ?tv?
- Gutterpunk, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2I think its "tv", but as Digg is not a open source geekdom anymore, but an apple fan warground, it only work for them and not Mozilla/Firefox users.
/I'm kidding, I'm kidding. - Haroldx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6The ? is supposed to be the apple logo
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Everbody knows Question TV.
- ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1If windows showed Apple character "windows char" instead of "?" it would rock for evilness :)
- Gutterpunk, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2I think its "tv", but as Digg is not a open source geekdom anymore, but an apple fan warground, it only work for them and not Mozilla/Firefox users.
- NeilBulk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3My Sage reader displays the Apple properly.
- therippa, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28Wait a second, a wordpress blog that didn't fail under the load?!? I guess I finally get to see what they look like.
- halleyscomet, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@therippa
Kinda anticlimactic, isn't it? - alfalpha, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Wordpress is a piece of software. When people put it on their ***** $4 shared hosting, of course it fails under the Digg effect. Wordpress.com is a host for Wordpress blogs with multiple redundant servers. I have never once seen Wordpress.com go down.
- halleyscomet, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@therippa
- livejamie, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4i get a tiny "miniml" symbol
- jpatch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3And for a while, I thought I was the only one!
- xistboi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Mine was charged back in Feb
http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/02/9570/- WiZZLa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"It is Apple’s practice NOT to charge credit cards until a product has entered the “ship preparation” phase hinting that the AppleTV will be shipping VERY soon. This directly contradicts a ThinkSecret report that said the product would ship in March."
- h00ligan, on 10/12/2007, -24/+13sweet.. now we can pay more money to be locked into a proprietary ecosystem that won't play industry standards and uses a closed drm system..
where do i sign up?- h00ligan, on 10/12/2007, -21/+6you have got to be ***** me, i state the obvious and come out as a proponent of open standards and i get buried within 5 minutes...without so much as even a retort... jesus christ what a bunch of ***** sheep.
- h00ligan, on 10/12/2007, -18/+6oh yah, typed from a macbook pro.
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Maybe you just shouldn't have wasted your time stating the obvious.
Sounds like AppleTV isn't for you. It's not for me either, but you don't see me taking time out to goad the people on here. - mossrockss, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13MPEG4 isn't a standard? Cause I've been ripping DVDs to MP4 and converting AVIs to MP4, and those play absolutely fine on my iPod, which is more or less the same as the AppleTV except with a tiny screen and a battery.
- pyrates, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7The version of mpeg4 that apple uses is fully compliant but only up to base profile for the ipod video and main profile for the apple tv. But what isn't standard is the mp4 container apple uses. They change many things like setting the profile to be decoded as profile 3 when the mp4 file reports the profile being 30. In mpeg4, there is no profile 30. This isn't standard. That's what apple did with the ipod video. That's why you need a specialized application to encode videos into. Apple could have implemented this properly, but they like to keep things proprietary. Another example is the ipod video composite cable where apple just changed the colors of the cables so you think that only the apple made one will work. That and also the DRM of course preventing anyone else from creating an appletv like device. Sure they could get around the changes apple made in the mp4 container, but they can't use the drm that apple uses. And this time there is no way to get around it by burning it to a dvd. iTunes doesn't let you. This tie in is worse then the itunes music and ipod tie in. There is no way around it without breaking the drm.
- h00ligan, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2thank you pyrates - exactly
- DoubleWah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Pyrates: I think the way apple handled the ipod's video out through the mini-jack socket is actually admirable when you realise that the same socket has to double-up as a stereo headphone socket. Apple's solution makes a lot of sense because it places the video signal on the ring furthest from the tip (which simply shorts to earth with a normal stereo plug), and leaves left and right audio exactly where a normal pair of headphones expects them. The standard AV cable has the video and left channel contacts reversed, which makes a socket wired up this way unusable for normal headphones.
Essentially, because Apple did it this way they avoid forcing you to use proprietary headphones at the minor cost of having to switch round two plugs on your generic AV cable.
(Although I agree with your comment about DRM... hopefully its days are numbered.) - HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5pyrates:
You assume nefarious reasons for Apple doing things and then rail against those reasons.
Did you ever stop to think the only reasoning you have for them doing what they did is your own and thus by complaining about it, you're only complaining about your own reasoning?
I know I can handbrake movies to 640x336 and play them on my iPod. And that's using a version of handbrake that came out before the video iPod. So it seems like iPod video can play standard MPEG4 after all.
So perhaps you're just plain wrong about all of this.
- Evildudetx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5For those who can't figure out what the hell they are talking about:
http://www.apple.com/appletv/connect.html
I've been looking for something like this for years, but I don't like the idea of being locked into iTunes for my movies and other items. I'll wait to see some reviews and whether or not this is DRM'd to death.- Radan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Have you checked the export options in QuickTime lately? "Export : Apple TV". Of course you need iTunes to sync it but you can still use your *eherm* backups of your legally bought DVDs.
- edzieba, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9You just have to convert every video you own to h.264 in the .mov container. No thanks.
- obvious, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1Are you seeing "?tv"? On macs, the "?" is an Apple logo.
- mrchin, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5Looks good here. is a great character. Too bad the windows users don't have it available. I'm sure there's a font for you guys to get that. Just built into our OS like many other things like drivers. There are times we need to install something as well, don't get me wrong. But not quite nearly as often.
- edzieba, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Works fine for my windows machine here. My mac only shows a ? though.
- natenovs, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2"Just built into our OS like many other things like drivers"
vista ships with 19,500 drivers on the dvd and 11,700 on windows update.
but, i guess thats pointless to say, since there aren't 1,000 different pieces of hardware that work on a mac, let alone 31,200
http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/7246/52/
- Greyarea, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Let the DivX hacks begin!
- SilentSpyder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Personally I hate avi's but I have some pron in the format. So go hack.
- invinciblechunk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Nice try, but you can't use U+F8FF and expect it to show up as an Apple logo on any platform except Apple's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U+F8FF
It's not part of the Unicode standard because the Apple logo is trademarked.- debtman7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Not even on all macs either. Apparently. Actually works fine in safari, but Firefox2 just shows a square box on my mac for the post title. Oddly enough, it does show the apple symbol in the page title displayed in the firefox window bar...
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6It's not part of the Unicode standard for the same reason the Exxon logo isn't.
Because they don't put corporate logos in there.
- johnalan, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2About ***** time.
- DanielNielsen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I´m seeing a square box, but in the RSS feed i see the apple.
- KissTheRing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Awesome, now would somebody with a bigger brain than mine figure out how to put Linux and MPlayer on the AppleTV with a snazzy smooth UI and seamless Samba support.
Gotta love those 'can I put linux on my [product X]' guys- ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Buy a second hand G4 Mac Mini with lots of RAM, run those mplayer etc. stuff on OS X. Well, if you really want to...
That is what I am doing right now, waiting for DVI/HDMI cable, thats all :) - KissTheRing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2G4? I'm not sure about that I don't know if a G4 mini would have the power to play 1080p H.264 video
- ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Buy a second hand G4 Mac Mini with lots of RAM, run those mplayer etc. stuff on OS X. Well, if you really want to...
- robdazomba, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Seems a good time to throw out my wild-ass theory here and now.
Apple releases a set-top box that many people complain doesn't do much and seems to have a lot of extras that serve no purpose... as if there are more features to come.
Google has been buying up dark fiber without much explanation as if for some undisclosed future plans. Google has also been sniffing around at IPTV possibilities and online video content.
Apple and Google have both confirmed that the two are working together on projects and one of Google's execs has recently joined Apple's board.
I'm not the tinfoil hat wearin' type, but I think you can see where this is probably going.- KissTheRing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I like your idea but I'll believe it when I see it. Wouldn't it be awesome to get a pay per channel system from google and just kick the cable and sat companies to the curb. I'd say maybe 20 channels for $15/month would be great, if I could pick and choose my channels 20 would be more than enough.
- michaelb1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Yeah about time. I just used Amazon unBox to rent a movie directly to my Tivo.
AppleTV better be good. iTunes NEEDS HD content and it NEEDS movie rentals. - JiveTurkeyPunk, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3Apple TV is stupid. Do people really want to buy movies from iTunes then watch it on their TV? I just see this as annoying once the novelty wears off. I'll stick with my DVR, movies on demand, and Netflix.
- kelly, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4The thing that makes this service so appealing is not some supposed "novelty" of downloading content (though I would argue that its not a novelty) is the ability for me to get television shows that I may have missed.
For example, already I have use the service to download a handful of episods of "Lost" that I missed or Tivo (for some reason or another) didn't capture for me.
As far as movies are concerned, it sure beats the blockbuster and netflicks business models hands down. Instant gratification like "on-demand" otherwise provides but without being restricted to the movies that they're making available at the time.
I forsee several people buying into this thing and then several copycat services popping up all over the place, but they, (like the iTunes/iPod copycats) wont quite measure up. - cypherz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5appleTV works with *my* DVR: ElGato EyeTV.
/gloat
- kelly, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4The thing that makes this service so appealing is not some supposed "novelty" of downloading content (though I would argue that its not a novelty) is the ability for me to get television shows that I may have missed.
- nbcivic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5haha, so i got a question mark, and after reading the description i thought it said that people were getting charged for delayed shipping on tv's, what?
- GloverCom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Ordered the instant the store came back up: "Order Date: Jan 9, 2007 at 11:22 AM PST"
Order status says nothing about being shipped yet...- JiveTurkeyPunk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2sucker...
- hedgiedarren, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8 FTW
- jordan314, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Woah,
Even cooler, even though it looks like a question mark on windows boxes, it's not, you can copy and paste it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
is different than
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/?
Cool!
-edit
ack, except dig screwed it up. It should be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ + - metafore, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2torn - digg or bury for apple character.
doesn't display in the link, but does display in the html title....on FF1.5 mac ;p - prockcore, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The F8FF character is actually designated as Other, Private Use
() in HTML - CaptainStone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3The Apple Store shows as of, 13:55 Eastern 14Mar2007, shipping mid March. The store does not show info like other products such as "Estimated shipping within 24hrs", etc
- geraldb28, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1That's consistent with what I'm seeing too. But, I have confirmation from two Apple employees (one an engineer and the other the Apple Store employee whose chat I screen capt'd and put on my blog)... it's due to ship and that's why cc's are being charged as of the 12th.
- whirlwind12, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think I would consider March 14th mid march.
- foxmajik, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2Buried for exclusive proprietary character set.
- leatherscot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3WRONG - Its a Font Issue, Unicode Standard - allowed to differ across fonts - Private use characters
- panique, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Reminds me of another very old joke:
Q: How many Microsoft engineers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None. They simply declare darkness to be the new standard.
- jagd_ato, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I've been charged $315!!! ssssssWEET.
- Topher06, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1LOL, title looks like SquareTV, which is pretty much accurate. Sorry, I know Apple will sell millions, but its ranked up there as one of Apple least innovative products. Its simply an iPod without an LCD screen and fancier menu and was delayed for no real reason (none Apple will elaborate on). Hell they even placed it under the iPod+iTunes tab. I have to slap Apple upside the head for creating a device with zero internet connectivity and requiring sync'ing with a computer before you can watch content. Why do I need to copy content to another hard drive before I can play it, even for HighDef content (I can stream HD Divx to my TV wirelessly and it looks great). Its AirTunes 2.0, and Apple still doesn't get it. My Wii connects to the internet, TV's are being released that connect to a PC/Mac and even the internet. If SquareTV had the built in ability to browse iTMS and buy music or movies and access Internet Radio, it might peak my interest, but for now I will wait and either buy an Xbox360, or see what the industry counters with.
Sorry, only Apple fanboys think this is a great device. They are purposely ignoring the fact that multimedia streaming devices have existed for years and that even some iPod docks can actually connect to the Internet if even just for Internet Radio and have on-screen menus. At $300 it should do a heck of a lot more then work like an iPod connected to a TV. The dumbest thing is they didn't even put an iPod Dock on it so at least you can sync your iPod in your living room, but that would have been waaaay to innovative for Apple to implement. Maybe SquareTV 2.0 will be better, but I'll pass on version 0.5.- geraldb28, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'm not claiming it's a great device. I'm claiming it's "news" that the cc's are being charged and the product is pending shipping.
As for the non-appearing apple logo in the title... sorry you can't see it. Probably part of the novelty of my original post and why it's in the top 10 of the technology bits on Digg (for a fleeting moment or two).
- geraldb28, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'm not claiming it's a great device. I'm claiming it's "news" that the cc's are being charged and the product is pending shipping.
- testdrivemedia, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Oh thank god! ... whatever.
Just one question... What exactly is the point of this device?- panique, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Depending on your TV viewing habits, you can potentially eliminate your cable/sattelite bill and pay less money to watch TV. Of course, at the present time, a lot of shows are not available on iTunes, but this will change. I'm pretty sure content providers will eventually welcome getting a piece of the $1.99 per episode per household while still collecting the standard royalties from the cable providers. Apple TV will help motivate content providers to sell their content via iTunes. I think 2010 is going to be the year of "It sucks to be a cable company".
- brindon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It allows people who don't understand how to setup BeyondTV or MythTV to make a really lame media-server, without the ATSC/cable decoder, online program guide, PVR, or really anything else that makes a box like that useful.
In other words, its a product for non-technical/"brand conscious" consumers - Apple consumers. - ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It is basically iTunes Library screen on your TV. Of course I bet they will add DVR etc. stuff later.
- mshea, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I'm excited for Apple TV for the following reasons:
1. I don't pay for cable. That's $50 a month I save right out. If I had cable I'd have a Tivo so that money is saved too. Instead I pay $300 for Apple TV and about $2 for the shows I want to see. It saves me money, works better, and gets me out from under the jackboot of corrupt cable companies.
2. It lets me stream all my iTunes music from my MacBook to my home theater system. I could have done it from my PC to my Xbox 360 but whatever.
3. I can burn DVDs and watch them on Apple TV easily enough. Media Fork does a pretty good job making h.264 movies. It isn't exactly as good as a straight DVD but it's something.
The bad parts were mentioned above:
1. Who in their right mind would spend 150% of the cost of a DVD to download a huge file overnight and watch a movie in lower resolution without dolby digital sound?
2. They need HD content.
3. They need a rental service.
4. They need to lower their prices. - easy4lif, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I'm gonna assume a friday ship date with most Apple TV buyers recieving it on a monday. After I get mine, I'm gonna wait for the mod community to post how to's on upgrading the hard drive cause I need WAY more then 40GB's for all the music + music videos + TV Shows + movies I have.
about 100 to 120 will do it for me
and yes, i drink the kool-aid.- andibroker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0"about 100 to 120 will do it for me"
thats why you can stream content from your mac or pc to Apple TV - easy4lif, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1see, I DON'T want to have my mac on when I watch a movie or a TV show. I want all my stuff to be there locally on my Apple TV without the need of a of having a second device, in my case an iMac, on.
my perfect setup
120 GB Apple TV with the stock 40 connected to the USB port - M4tt3r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1As an alternative you can always get a D-Link G600 rev.B and a D-Link DSM-750 (when it comes out). It may be more, but provides a ton more functionality.
It's relatively easy to setup, and you don't have to keep your computer running. Just add whatever size hard drive to the NAS and connect it wirelessly or wired. (You can even wirelessly send files to the NAS from your computer, either through a network setup or FTP.)
I got the NAS, but only the DSM-320. I use them both everyday, and I'm going to buy the 750 when that bad boy comes out.
DSM-G600 : http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=377&sec=0
DSM-750 : http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=547
I hope this helps make a decision one way or another so you get what you need.
- andibroker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0"about 100 to 120 will do it for me"
- meshman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5"if you’re among the lot not seeing the Apple logo immediately before the “tv” in the title… it’s because of your browsers implementation of non-standard character set."
No, it's YOUR use of an extended character set. The world doesn't revolve around Apple.- leatherscot, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5No Youre - its font dependant - those characters differ across fonts and are defined by the font producer
Part of the specified Unicode Standard - Characters allowed for Private (i.e. Font Vendor) use
- leatherscot, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5No Youre - its font dependant - those characters differ across fonts and are defined by the font producer
- r©ain, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Man talk about a fekkin sneak attack!
I expected my bank card to be charged back on January 9th!
Now I see a $324.00 charge today.
Thank you Apple! I mean WTF? I just bought a floor mirror from Crate and Barrel. It's on back order. Did they make me wait till it shipped to charge my bank card? Hell no. They charged it right away. That is standard practice. Charge the card now.. today, when I ordered the frikkin thing. Don't play games with little sneak attack charge 2 months after the fact.
I'll survive, but, it just ***** me off to see that Apple has such a fek you attitude... but I guess that's part of "thinking different". If I hadn't been in such a huge spending mode the last week or two, I wouldn't have cared. But this is BS either way.- nolaMatt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Since you're such a fan of paying people before they ship the merchandise, I thought I should let you know that I'm having a HUGE sale on MacBook Pros, 65% OFF - TODAY ONLY.
Scheduled to ship: Umm...sometime. But I'll certainly charge your card today if it'll make you happy! - panique, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6FYI Apple has complied with the card processor guidelines. Crate and Barrel is ignoring those very guidelines. Anything charged via mail order is not to be settled against a credit card until the order is shipped.
- nolaMatt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Since you're such a fan of paying people before they ship the merchandise, I thought I should let you know that I'm having a HUGE sale on MacBook Pros, 65% OFF - TODAY ONLY.
- astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Is this Riddler TV?
Riddle me this Batman.... never mind, I have your bat credit card......**Frank Gorshin Riddler laugh** - forddorr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2From my order status page:
"Not yet shipped
Product / Part No. Unit Price Qty Ext. Price
APPLE TV-USA MA711LL/A $299.00 1 $299.00
Ships by: Mar 20
Delivers by: Mar 23" - madskjaer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I see an Apple icon in my RSS-reader, but not in Firefox... I'm glad it's finally out, so we can get some reports on what's really inside :o
- JuliusErving, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'm using firefox on my mac. The apple logo doesn't show up on the digg page, but does show up in the title at the top of the browser. On the digg page i just get a white box.
- ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I would still buy Mac Mini+811.N (better built in, if else optional usb) and enjoy a spare computer with more 3rd party app support.
I really wouldn't put a Windows to my living room for entertaintment. - Noobist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3
- SammyNosa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Mine hasn't shipped yet. It still shows the 20th.
- TheRealDeal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The story title is inaccurate. As of today (Friday, March 16) NO AppleTVs have been actually shipped.
As others have noted, official ship date is March 20th. Apple seems to be holding to that date. - alabamawanderer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Perfect post! I don't like such articles.
- kalyps0, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Looks like Guess? now makes TVs.
Now, ala Where's Wally, *turn the page* Where's the Apple here?
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