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- Matteos, on 10/12/2007, -9/+121I see dead people...
- bredvad, on 10/12/2007, -12/+95Dugg for the Apple character.
- Dycacian, on 10/12/2007, -11/+72I see a '?'
- dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -8/+56I see the Microsoft logo. Imagine *my* surprise!
- wild, on 10/12/2007, -14/+50This would be climbing the page faster if you had put the word "apple" in front. I imagine I am not the only mac user that can't see the icon, just a box. ;)
- tabledesk, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32I didn't know the Apple character was valid for URLs.
- therippa, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28Wait a second, a wordpress blog that didn't fail under the load?!? I guess I finally get to see what they look like.
- Topslakr, on 10/12/2007, -7/+28I haven't done anything special to my Macbook and I see the apple symbol.. Looks nice.
- drewskyjones, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23Dugg for the "?"
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Everbody knows Question TV.
- kevnaca, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20I see an empty box before tv on the link in Firefox but the title bar and tab title displays the apple logo. Safari displays the apple perfectly. I was little confused for a moment though.
- nottidredd, on 10/12/2007, -9/+23What is ?tv?
- Greyarea, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Let the DivX hacks begin!
- invinciblechunk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Nice try, but you can't use U+F8FF and expect it to show up as an Apple logo on any platform except Apple's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U+F8FF
It's not part of the Unicode standard because the Apple logo is trademarked. - Pile, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17In Mozilla all I get is a question mark.
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15If you guys used the Safari web browser you'd see this: http://web.mac.com/brendanjnr/iWeb/Site/Welcome.html
- mossrockss, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13MPEG4 isn't a standard? Cause I've been ripping DVDs to MP4 and converting AVIs to MP4, and those play absolutely fine on my iPod, which is more or less the same as the AppleTV except with a tiny screen and a battery.
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Maybe you just shouldn't have wasted your time stating the obvious.
Sounds like AppleTV isn't for you. It's not for me either, but you don't see me taking time out to goad the people on here. - halleyscomet, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@therippa
Kinda anticlimactic, isn't it? - mshea, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I'm excited for Apple TV for the following reasons:
1. I don't pay for cable. That's $50 a month I save right out. If I had cable I'd have a Tivo so that money is saved too. Instead I pay $300 for Apple TV and about $2 for the shows I want to see. It saves me money, works better, and gets me out from under the jackboot of corrupt cable companies.
2. It lets me stream all my iTunes music from my MacBook to my home theater system. I could have done it from my PC to my Xbox 360 but whatever.
3. I can burn DVDs and watch them on Apple TV easily enough. Media Fork does a pretty good job making h.264 movies. It isn't exactly as good as a straight DVD but it's something.
The bad parts were mentioned above:
1. Who in their right mind would spend 150% of the cost of a DVD to download a huge file overnight and watch a movie in lower resolution without dolby digital sound?
2. They need HD content.
3. They need a rental service.
4. They need to lower their prices. - DoubleWah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Pyrates: I think the way apple handled the ipod's video out through the mini-jack socket is actually admirable when you realise that the same socket has to double-up as a stereo headphone socket. Apple's solution makes a lot of sense because it places the video signal on the ring furthest from the tip (which simply shorts to earth with a normal stereo plug), and leaves left and right audio exactly where a normal pair of headphones expects them. The standard AV cable has the video and left channel contacts reversed, which makes a socket wired up this way unusable for normal headphones.
Essentially, because Apple did it this way they avoid forcing you to use proprietary headphones at the minor cost of having to switch round two plugs on your generic AV cable.
(Although I agree with your comment about DRM... hopefully its days are numbered.) - Haroldx, on 10/12/2007, -10/+17I only see 3 lines.
Yea, maybe some people should just avoid using those symbols for the good of the community. - HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7It's not part of the Unicode standard for the same reason the Exxon logo isn't.
Because they don't put corporate logos in there. - jagd_ato, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I've been charged $315!!! ssssssWEET.
- badnewsblair, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11I wasn't going to digg, but I did because of the Apple logo and that a lot of people would be getting weird different symbols based on what fonts they had installed.
- hedgiedarren, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8 FTW
- edzieba, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9You just have to convert every video you own to h.264 in the .mov container. No thanks.
- panique, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6FYI Apple has complied with the card processor guidelines. Crate and Barrel is ignoring those very guidelines. Anything charged via mail order is not to be settled against a credit card until the order is shipped.
- Radan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Have you checked the export options in QuickTime lately? "Export : Apple TV". Of course you need iTunes to sync it but you can still use your *eherm* backups of your legally bought DVDs.
- michaelb1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Yeah about time. I just used Amazon unBox to rent a movie directly to my Tivo.
AppleTV better be good. iTunes NEEDS HD content and it NEEDS movie rentals. - panique, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Reminds me of another very old joke:
Q: How many Microsoft engineers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None. They simply declare darkness to be the new standard. - TheCount, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Awesome. That means the modders can finally get their hands on it, so I can buy one when someone develops a mod that will let me stream videos in the same format I download them.
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5pyrates:
You assume nefarious reasons for Apple doing things and then rail against those reasons.
Did you ever stop to think the only reasoning you have for them doing what they did is your own and thus by complaining about it, you're only complaining about your own reasoning?
I know I can handbrake movies to 640x336 and play them on my iPod. And that's using a version of handbrake that came out before the video iPod. So it seems like iPod video can play standard MPEG4 after all.
So perhaps you're just plain wrong about all of this. - nbcivic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5haha, so i got a question mark, and after reading the description i thought it said that people were getting charged for delayed shipping on tv's, what?
- KissTheRing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Awesome, now would somebody with a bigger brain than mine figure out how to put Linux and MPlayer on the AppleTV with a snazzy smooth UI and seamless Samba support.
Gotta love those 'can I put linux on my [product X]' guys - xistboi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Mine was charged back in Feb
http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/02/9570/ - cypherz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5appleTV works with *my* DVR: ElGato EyeTV.
/gloat - pingsmoth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I still can't believe it's actually a valid character.
- Evildudetx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5For those who can't figure out what the hell they are talking about:
http://www.apple.com/appletv/connect.html
I've been looking for something like this for years, but I don't like the idea of being locked into iTunes for my movies and other items. I'll wait to see some reviews and whether or not this is DRM'd to death. - mrgono3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4it does work on a iBook G4 many mac users cant see it but i can
- Haroldx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6The ? is supposed to be the apple logo
- ThatsUnpossible, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Any character is valid after the domain name separator in the URL as long as it is encoded properly. The only question is whether your web server can handle it, whether most browsers will handle it, and what will it look like to end-users? Also, is it worth it if people can't type the url easily by hand? Will search engines refuse to index your page? Etc.
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"For years we all griped about how IE loved their proprietary BS and tried to tell everyone that if they used IE to browse, THEN everything would display correctly....think about what you just posted."
I'm not trying to justify anything, that's why I said I would have typed the word Apple. My point was to show people what Safari users were seeing. - whirlwind12, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think I would consider March 14th mid march.
- debtman7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Not even on all macs either. Apparently. Actually works fine in safari, but Firefox2 just shows a square box on my mac for the post title. Oddly enough, it does show the apple symbol in the page title displayed in the firefox window bar...
- pyrates, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7The version of mpeg4 that apple uses is fully compliant but only up to base profile for the ipod video and main profile for the apple tv. But what isn't standard is the mp4 container apple uses. They change many things like setting the profile to be decoded as profile 3 when the mp4 file reports the profile being 30. In mpeg4, there is no profile 30. This isn't standard. That's what apple did with the ipod video. That's why you need a specialized application to encode videos into. Apple could have implemented this properly, but they like to keep things proprietary. Another example is the ipod video composite cable where apple just changed the colors of the cables so you think that only the apple made one will work. That and also the DRM of course preventing anyone else from creating an appletv like device. Sure they could get around the changes apple made in the mp4 container, but they can't use the drm that apple uses. And this time there is no way to get around it by burning it to a dvd. iTunes doesn't let you. This tie in is worse then the itunes music and ipod tie in. There is no way around it without breaking the drm.
- GloverCom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Ordered the instant the store came back up: "Order Date: Jan 9, 2007 at 11:22 AM PST"
Order status says nothing about being shipped yet... - prockcore, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The F8FF character is actually designated as Other, Private Use
() in HTML - ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It is basically iTunes Library screen on your TV. Of course I bet they will add DVR etc. stuff later.
- testdrivemedia, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Oh thank god! ... whatever.
Just one question... What exactly is the point of this device? -
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